Dispensations...who's got the Dispensations

an interesting thought occurred to me. in the 15thC there were
antipopes. certainly some of the people we discuss here must have
supported one or the other of the popes or antipopes.

for instance, Felix V. see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope_Felix_V

Sigismund, the holy roman emporer was the 4th cousin 3 times removed
of Jacquetta, mother of Elizabeth Woodville.

Sigismund was also the brother of Anne who married R2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund,_Holy_Roman_Emperor

Note also that Felix was married to Mary of Burgundy. Burgundy and
England were allied during the era of Jeanne d'Arc.

Felix was antipope from November 1439 to April 1449
E4 was born during his reign.

Jacquetta's uncle Louis was Cardinal of Rouen. his younger brother
Jean sold Jeanne d'Arc to the english. Louis arranged the marriage of
Jacquetta to John Duke of Bedford, uncle to H6. Louis also attended
conclaves at Basel, Switzerland.

therefore, during this time of schism, where would the records for
these antipopes be held? or were they destroyed? could these records
hold keys to unanswered questions regarding the era of H6?

roslyn

--- In , "fayreroze"
<fayreroze@...> wrote:
>
> an interesting thought occurred to me. in the 15thC there were
> antipopes. certainly some of the people we discuss here must have
> supported one or the other of the popes or antipopes.
>
> for instance, Felix V. see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope_Felix_V
>
> Sigismund, the holy roman emporer was the 4th cousin 3 times
removed
> of Jacquetta, mother of Elizabeth Woodville.
>
> Sigismund was also the brother of Anne who married R2.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund,_Holy_Roman_Emperor
>
> Note also that Felix was married to Mary of Burgundy. Burgundy and
> England were allied during the era of Jeanne d'Arc.
>
> Felix was antipope from November 1439 to April 1449
> E4 was born during his reign.
>
> Jacquetta's uncle Louis was Cardinal of Rouen. his younger brother
> Jean sold Jeanne d'Arc to the english. Louis arranged the marriage
of
> Jacquetta to John Duke of Bedford, uncle to H6. Louis also
attended
> conclaves at Basel, Switzerland.
>
> therefore, during this time of schism, where would the records for
> these antipopes be held? or were they destroyed? could these
records
> hold keys to unanswered questions regarding the era of H6?
>
> roslyn

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Hello Roslyn,

It seems to me that antipopes' records could answer a lot of
questions if they survived. It's an interesting possibility.

I know of one example of an antipope granting a dispensation:

Around 1422-1423, Jacqueline of Hainault obtained validation of her
marriage to Humphrey, duke of Gloucester from the anti-pope Benedict
XIII. She went to Benedict XIII because Martin V, elected in late
1417, had changed his mind twice about Jacqueline's marriage to the
duke of Brabant. The English accepted her as duchess of Gloucester.

I read this in R. Vaughan's book on Philip the Good and K.H.
Vickers' biography of Humphrey, duke of Gloucester. Unfortunately I
don't know where they found the records, but they both discuss
Jacqueline's marriage to Gloucester. Their footnotes or
bibliographies might lead to Benedict XIII's records, with luck.

Maybe the location of Benedict XIII's records could lead to other
antipopes' records.

Marion


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