Annette Carson

For those who haven't yet read Annette Carson's book "Richard III The
Maligned King" let me say that I cannot recommend it highly enough!
It really is wonderful, beautifully and clearly laying out the
important and controversial incidents in Richard's life and career,
covering all sides of the arguments, and providing all the available
sources.
I absolutely love it, and am certain it will become a book I will be
keeping close by for reference in future.
Paul



Richard liveth yet

<paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> For those who haven't yet read Annette Carson's book "Richard III
The
> Maligned King" let me say that I cannot recommend it highly enough!
> It really is wonderful, beautifully and clearly laying out the
> important and controversial incidents in Richard's life and career,
> covering all sides of the arguments, and providing all the available
> sources.
> I absolutely love it, and am certain it will become a book I will be
> keeping close by for reference in future.
> Paul
>
>

Paul,
Thank you for the review. Looks like the book won't be published here
in the states until July. I'll be looking for it then.
Thanks for the advice on a positive book.
Howard

Annette's Special Edition of Maligned King is ready, and she is now
preparing a new book for publication which she describes as 'a basic
layman's introduction to the Richard III controversy, with the title "A
Small Guide to the Great Debate".'
Good news.
Paul


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

That's good and needed. Where is everyone, in the sun? I'm with Stillington for my sins. 



________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 10:13
Subject: Annette Carson


 

Annette's Special Edition of Maligned King is ready, and she is now
preparing a new book for publication which she describes as 'a basic
layman's introduction to the Richard III controversy, with the title "A
Small Guide to the Great Debate".'
Good news.
Paul

--
Richard Liveth Yet!

I'm here, wondering the same as you, Hilary. I thought there was something wrong with my emails. Paul seems seems to be about the only other Ricardian around.
From: Hilary Jones
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:20 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Annette Carson


That's good and needed. Where is everyone, in the sun? I'm with Stillington for my sins.

I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company.  In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......




________________________________

Let's hope the remaindering entails mushing it up and turning it into, um, soft paper for bathrooms.



From: Pamela Furmidge
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Re: Hicks again

I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

Amy License also has a book out about Cecily Neville.

On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:31 AM, "Pamela Furmidge" <pamela.furmidge@...<mailto:pamela.furmidge@...>> wrote:



I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from ý9.99 to ý4.99.......

________________________________

Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Furmidge
To: undisclosed recipients:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

________________________________

That is the funniest thing I have read for a very long time.....Do they just make it up as they go along? Eileen

--- In , Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:

>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard"
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
theories.
This book should be burnt!
Paul


On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Well I was wandering along my beach yesterday in glorious sunshine, so
maybe others were too. Either that, or enjoying a break from the er, how
can I put it nicely, recent upset?

Before us Brits discovered the Spanish Costas in the 70s our beaches
would always be crowded when the sun shone. Now, my nearest beach in St
Leonards on Sea, gets a lot of folk at weekends, but it is never
crowded. I drive to one at a place called Norman's Bay, near Pevensey,
where the Conqueror landed in 1066. It is a couple of miles long, and I
have never seen more than three other people on it. Bliss!
Paul


On 05/06/2013 11:19, SandraMachin wrote:
> I'm here, wondering the same as you, Hilary. I thought there was something wrong with my emails. Paul seems seems to be about the only other Ricardian around.
> From: Hilary Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:20 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Annette Carson
>
>
> That's good and needed. Where is everyone, in the sun? I'm with Stillington for my sins.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

If there are enough poor reviews on the Amazon's, it's quite possible to
steer people away from buying his works even at ý4.99!

A J


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
> I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
> evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
> theories.
> This book should be burnt!
> Paul
>
> On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> > I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's
> edition, I found the following:
> >
> > 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne
> Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it
> follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which
> Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the
> killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
> >
> > The book has been reduced from ý9.99 to ý4.99.......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>

On Face Book? There seem to be more & more groups devoted to Richard...

A J


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> That's good and needed. Where is everyone, in the sun? I'm with
> Stillington for my sins.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 10:13
> Subject: Annette Carson
>
>
>
>
>
> Annette's Special Edition of Maligned King is ready, and she is now
> preparing a new book for publication which she describes as 'a basic
> layman's introduction to the Richard III controversy, with the title "A
> Small Guide to the Great Debate".'
> Good news.
> Paul
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.



________________________________
From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
Subject: Re: Hicks again


 

Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Furmidge
To: undisclosed recipients:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

________________________________

Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'.  The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?




________________________________
Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote

 
For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.

________________________________
From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
Subject: Re: Hicks again


 

Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Furmidge
To: undisclosed recipients:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

________________________________

Yes, indeed, poor Anne. Is there just a wholesale hatred of all the Plantagenets, or just the last of the families???

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Hilary Jones
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:01 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Hicks again



For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.

________________________________
From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...<mailto:stephenmlark%40talktalk.net>>
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
Subject: Re: Hicks again




Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Furmidge
To: undisclosed recipients:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

________________________________

It is like having our era judged with Dempster and Hickey cited as "historians".
----- Original Message -----
From: Hilary Jones
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.

________________________________
From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
Subject: Re: Hicks again




Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Furmidge
To: undisclosed recipients:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

________________________________

The "greatest living expert on Richard" surely lives only ten miles from me. Google "writing about Richard III" ..............
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Furmidge
To: undisclosed recipients:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?

________________________________
Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote


For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.

________________________________
From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
Subject: Re: Hicks again



Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Furmidge
To: undisclosed recipients:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:

'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'

The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

________________________________

He's so great his book's been remaindered. Wow. I can't tell you how impressed I am.

What? No mention of Richard having poisoned her? The advertising blurb writer must have run out of room.

~Weds

--- In , Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company.  In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Amy License also has a book out about Cecily Neville.

Carol responds:

An unlicensed biography?

By the way, I was also wondering about the ringing silence on the forum. What a change after wading through a sea of posts every day for months.

Re Hicks's biography (the ostensible topic of the thread), I think I would write to the "remainder" company and tell them that their "expert" is best known for his errors and the best use for the "remainder" of his books is fuel or fertilizer. And I think I would tell them to save paper and postage by refraining from sending me any more trash.

Carol

A friend of mine met Hicks at a conference. She talked with him at length about a paper she was writing...and Bang! Zoom! Didn't he go and write his own on the topic. Anyone with so few scruples deserves to be ignored.

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



 
Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
theories.
This book should be burnt!
Paul

On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Marie and I have both holed him.
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Thomson
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



A friend of mine met Hicks at a conference. She talked with him at length about a paper she was writing...and Bang! Zoom! Didn't he go and write his own on the topic. Anyone with so few scruples deserves to be ignored.

Judy

Loyaulte me lie

________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
theories.
This book should be burnt!
Paul

On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Well prior to this she wrote an excellent book on Donald Duck....eileen

--- In , Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:
>
> Amy License also has a book out about Cecily Neville.
>

>
>
>
>
>
>

As an undergraduate, I wrote a paper on how the Tarot influenced Yeats' poetry. My English professor at least had the decency to ask if I minded if he took the idea and ran with it. Since I wasn't pursuing an advanced degree, I told him to go for it. He needed tenure, I didn't, and he had the honor to ask.

A few years later, when I was working in the industry in L.A., a producer told me point blank to never, *ever* discuss in any public place -- but particularly in a restaurant -- any idea under development. Or any idea period if I wanted to keep it. Chances were that some other writer was deliberately eavesdropping. Anything that could be nicked would be nicked.

~Weds


--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine met Hicks at a conference. She talked with him at length about a paper she was writing...and Bang! Zoom! Didn't he go and write his own on the topic. Anyone with so few scruples deserves to be ignored.
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
>  
> Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
> I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
> evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
> theories.
> This book should be burnt!
> Paul
>
> On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> > I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
> >
> > 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
> >
> > The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

Good for you.
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



 
Marie and I have both holed him.
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Thomson
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

A friend of mine met Hicks at a conference. She talked with him at length about a paper she was writing...and Bang! Zoom! Didn't he go and write his own on the topic. Anyone with so few scruples deserves to be ignored.

Judy

Loyaulte me lie

________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
theories.
This book should be burnt!
Paul

On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
Richard Liveth Yet!

The difference is that in Academia, there's a code of professional courtesy. In the film industry, it's a shark tank. :-)

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



 
As an undergraduate, I wrote a paper on how the Tarot influenced Yeats' poetry. My English professor at least had the decency to ask if I minded if he took the idea and ran with it. Since I wasn't pursuing an advanced degree, I told him to go for it. He needed tenure, I didn't, and he had the honor to ask.

A few years later, when I was working in the industry in L.A., a producer told me point blank to never, *ever* discuss in any public place -- but particularly in a restaurant -- any idea under development. Or any idea period if I wanted to keep it. Chances were that some other writer was deliberately eavesdropping. Anything that could be nicked would be nicked.

~Weds

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine met Hicks at a conference. She talked with him at length about a paper she was writing...and Bang! Zoom! Didn't he go and write his own on the topic. Anyone with so few scruples deserves to be ignored.
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
>  
> Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
> I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
> evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
> theories.
> This book should be burnt!
> Paul
>
> On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> > I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
> >
> > 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
> >
> > The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......

Thanks for the tip Paul,  I am going to organise a coach party for the next hot weekend.  :-)
 
Liz


________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 13:48
Subject: Re: Annette Carson


Snip>

 I drive to one at a place called Norman's Bay, near Pevensey,
where the Conqueror landed in 1066. It is a couple of miles long, and I
have never seen more than three other people on it. Bliss!
Paul

Almost as infamous as Milford Haven.
----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Annette Carson



Thanks for the tip Paul, I am going to organise a coach party for the next hot weekend. :-)

Liz

________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 13:48
Subject: Re: Annette Carson

Snip>

I drive to one at a place called Norman's Bay, near Pevensey,
where the Conqueror landed in 1066. It is a couple of miles long, and I
have never seen more than three other people on it. Bliss!
Paul

JAH?


--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> The "greatest living expert on Richard" surely lives only ten miles from me. Google "writing about Richard III" ..............
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>
> ________________________________
> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>
>
> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hilary Jones wrote:
>
> That's good and needed. Where is everyone, in the sun? I'm with Stillington for my sins. 

Carol responds:

Definitely not in the sun. It's 104 degreed Fahrenheit here. (That's 40 degrees Celsius for those of you in the cool, mist-shrouded British Isles.) And 11 percent humidity. Stepping outside to get the mail or whatever is like stepping into an oven.

to get back on topic, I'm looking forward to hearing more about Annette's book, which I'm guessing is Richard 101 for people just now learning about him from all the media hoopla.

Carol

--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> Marie and I have both holed him.

Carol responds:

"Holed" as in "pigeonholed"? With what result?

Carol

It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
Marie




--- In , Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'.  The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>
>  
> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>  
>
> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> Marie and I have both holed him.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy Thomson
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> A friend of mine met Hicks at a conference. She talked with him at length about a paper she was writing...and Bang! Zoom! Didn't he go and write his own on the topic. Anyone with so few scruples deserves to be ignored.
>
> Judy
>
> Loyaulte me lie




Interesting. Even though it had nothing to do with his subject matter, Hicks squeezed into his biography of Edward V the theory that Edward IV's Lady Lucy was not an Elizabeth after all but Margaret, the young widow of Sir William of Dallington, and this was just months after I'd posted the same idea on this forum. I've always suspected he nicked the idea and took the credit. Now I'm even more inclined to think so. He did additional research on her but that's not the point. It was a mighty coincidence at any rate.
Wonder if he still lurks.
Marie



>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
> I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
> evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
> theories.
> This book should be burnt!
> Paul
>
> On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> > I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
> >
> > 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
> >
> > The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

He lurkerh because he needs ideas.

On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:22 PM, "mariewalsh2003" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:




--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> Marie and I have both holed him
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy Thomson
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> A friend of mine met Hicks at a conference. She talked with him at length about a paper she was writing...and Bang! Zoom! Didn't he go and write his own on the topic. Anyone with so few scruples deserves to be ignored.
>
> Judy
>
> Loyaulte me lie

Interesting. Even though it had nothing to do with his subject matter, Hicks squeezed into his biography of Edward V the theory that Edward IV's Lady Lucy was not an Elizabeth after all but Margaret, the young widow of Sir William of Dallington, and this was just months after I'd posted the same idea on this forum. I've always suspected he nicked the idea and took the credit. Now I'm even more inclined to think so. He did additional research on her but that's not the point. It was a mighty coincidence at any rate.
Wonder if he still lurks.
Marie

>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
> I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
> evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
> theories.
> This book should be burnt!
> Paul
>
> On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> > I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
> >
> > 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
> >
> > The book has been reduced from ý9.99 to ý4.99.......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Below the water line?


--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> Marie and I have both holed him.

Carol responds:

"Holed" as in "pigeonholed"? With what result?



.

Correct.
----- Original Message -----
From: ricard1an
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



JAH?

--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> The "greatest living expert on Richard" surely lives only ten miles from me. Google "writing about Richard III" ..............
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>
> ________________________________
> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>
>
> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
>
> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.......... as in holed beneath the waterline - MB on the dispensations and I on Thomas Stafford's execution.

----- Original Message -----
From: justcarol67
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again





--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> Marie and I have both holed him.

Carol responds:

"Holed" as in "pigeonholed"? With what result?

Carol

Oh yes, the Weir false certainty came through as a great contrast to the real experts. After all, she was there in 1536, just like she was in 1483.
----- Original Message -----
From: mariewalsh2003
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again





It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
Marie

--- In , Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. Â The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>
> Â
> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
> Â
>
> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I missed the Anne Boleyn programme and it isn't on i player! Am not happy with the bbc


From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013, 10:02
Subject: Re: Hicks again

 
Oh yes, the Weir false certainty came through as a great contrast to the real experts. After all, she was there in 1536, just like she was in 1483.
----- Original Message -----
From: mariewalsh2003
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
Marie

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. Â The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>
> Â
> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
> Â
>
> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




I m

Wow, she is holding up pretty well........ She does actually "make me crazy"!

On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:00 AM, "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...<mailto:stephenmlark@...>> wrote:



Oh yes, the Weir false certainty came through as a great contrast to the real experts. After all, she was there in 1536, just like she was in 1483.
----- Original Message -----
From: mariewalsh2003
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
Marie

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. ý The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>
> ý
> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
> ý
>
> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from ýý9.99 to ýý4.99.......
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

They only go back 7 days but it may be on Youtube. Starkey, on home ground, was very good.
----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



I missed the Anne Boleyn programme and it isn't on i player! Am not happy with the bbc

From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013, 10:02
Subject: Re: Hicks again


Oh yes, the Weir false certainty came through as a great contrast to the real experts. After all, she was there in 1536, just like she was in 1483.
----- Original Message -----
From: mariewalsh2003
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again

It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
Marie

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. Â The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>
> Â
> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
> Â
>
> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pamela Furmidge
> To: undisclosed recipients:
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>
> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>
> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



I m

Well yes Marie. After your excellent riposte in the Ricardian my suspicions would be exactly the same.

--- In , mariewalsh2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
> By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
> I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
> Marie
>
>
>
>
> --- In , Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'.  The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote
> >
> >  
> > For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
> > Subject: Re: Hicks again
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pamela Furmidge
> > To: undisclosed recipients:
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: Hicks again
> >
> > I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
> >
> > 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
> >
> > The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

If I recall it Weir appeared just as they mentioned witchcraft for the
first time!:-)
It was ruined by the cheap 'dramatic reconstructions' but in there were
some interesting things. Worst bit, Weir and her "vast knowledge" apart,
was the idiot who 'knows' Anne had sex with her brother and Mark Smeaton
at least!
Paul

On 06/06/2013 11:41, liz williams wrote:
> I missed the Anne Boleyn programme and it isn't on i player! Am not happy with the bbc
>
>
> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013, 10:02
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
> Oh yes, the Weir false certainty came through as a great contrast to the real experts. After all, she was there in 1536, just like she was in 1483.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mariewalsh2003
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
> By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
> I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
> Marie
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. Â The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>>
>> Â
>> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
>> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>>
>>
>> Â
>>
>> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Pamela Furmidge
>> To: undisclosed recipients:
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>>
>> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>>
>> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>>
>> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> I m
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Richard Liveth Yet!

Annette told me.....

As for my "Small Guide", the official title is going to be "Richard III:
A Small Guide to the Great Debate". It's only a little A5 paperback with
96 pages so I didn't bother taking it to The History Press, it would've
taken a year to publish and I'd have had to fight with their pesky
editors and designers! So I'm going the DIY route, and will be selling
them myself by mail order. At the moment I'm looking at a price of about
£5, which should make it attractive to the general public, doncha think?
Once again I am not expecting it to make my fortune! It's really aimed
at the layman to explain the controversy -- but it has allowed me to
investigate certain aspects of the disappearance of the princes that I
couldn't otherwise go into, so it may prove interesting to Ricardians
(or infuriating, who knows?!).

I'll let everyone know how to order when Annette tells me it is ready.
Her special edition of Maligned King is now available at 25UKP plus
postage, though she is offering a discount for Ricardians.
Paul


On 06/06/2013 00:33, justcarol67 wrote:
> Hilary Jones wrote:
>> That's good and needed. Where is everyone, in the sun? I'm with Stillington for my sins.Â
> Carol responds:
>
> Definitely not in the sun. It's 104 degreed Fahrenheit here. (That's 40 degrees Celsius for those of you in the cool, mist-shrouded British Isles.) And 11 percent humidity. Stepping outside to get the mail or whatever is like stepping into an oven.
>
> to get back on topic, I'm looking forward to hearing more about Annette's book, which I'm guessing is Richard 101 for people just now learning about him from all the media hoopla.
>
> Carol
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Richard Liveth Yet!

I'll put my militia on standby then to repel invaders!!!!!!:-)
Paul

On 05/06/2013 20:37, liz williams wrote:
> Thanks for the tip Paul, I am going to organise a coach party for the next hot weekend. :-)
>
> Liz
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 13:48
> Subject: Re: Annette Carson
>
>
> Snip>
>
> I drive to one at a place called Norman's Bay, near Pevensey,
> where the Conqueror landed in 1066. It is a couple of miles long, and I
> have never seen more than three other people on it. Bliss!
> Paul
>
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>
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Richard Liveth Yet!

In a puff of sulphurous smoke?

From: Paul Trevor Bale
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:50 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Hicks again

If I recall it Weir appeared just as they mentioned witchcraft for the
first time!:-)

Wasn't that PG?



________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013, 15:50
Subject: Re: Hicks again


 

If I recall it Weir appeared just as they mentioned witchcraft for the
first time!:-)
It was ruined by the cheap 'dramatic reconstructions' but in there were
some interesting things. Worst bit, Weir and her "vast knowledge" apart,
was the idiot who 'knows' Anne had sex with her brother and Mark Smeaton
at least!
Paul

On 06/06/2013 11:41, liz williams wrote:
> I missed the Anne Boleyn programme and it isn't on i player! Am not happy with the bbc
>
>
> From: Stephen Lark <mailto:stephenmlark%40talktalk.net>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013, 10:02
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
>
> Oh yes, the Weir false certainty came through as a great contrast to the real experts. After all, she was there in 1536, just like she was in 1483.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mariewalsh2003
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>
> It was edited by guess who - Alison Weir, and I seem to recall that she provided the glowing praise on the dustjacket.
> By the by, did anybody else think Ms Weir came across badly on the Anne Boleyn programme? To me she revealed herself, in contrast to the other amateur "authorities" including Philippa Gregory, as incapable of doubt or caution and apt to quote as fact things that were written decades later.
> I expect Alison Weir still thinks' 'Anne Neville' was a wonderful book, but I also suspect that Michael Hicks may not.
> Marie
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:
>> Unfortunately I have a copy of this book....I would like to know who describes Hicks as 'the greatest living expert on Richard'. Â The description was shown in quotes in the original advertisement - would that be a self-quote by any chance?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote
>>
>> Â
>> For use as a doorstop!? I've also had a mailing from amazon about the Amy Licence one. Poor Anne.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 12:07
>> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>>
>>
>> Â
>>
>> Are they planning to reduce the price by another five pounds?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Pamela Furmidge
>> To: undisclosed recipients:
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Hicks again
>>
>> I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
>>
>> 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
>>
>> The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
>>
>> ________________________________
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Is it just me? I miss Claire's posts, they were always interesting.

Sandra

It does seem pretty quiet these days.

A J


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Is it just me? I miss Claireýs posts, they were always interesting.
>
> Sandra
>
>
>
>
>

"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> .......... as in holed beneath the waterline - MB on the dispensations and I on Thomas Stafford's execution.

Carol responds:

Sorry. "Holed (hauled?) beneath the waterline" still doesn't make sense to my American mind. What does it mean, translated from figurative to literal?

I'm taking it that you both challenged him, but, again, with what result? Did he fess up to his sins and errors?

Carol

Made a hole below his waterline to sink him.
Marie's dispensations you know all about.
His ODNB piece implied that TS was dhq'd but I found a source.
I am possibly too notorious now to approach him now but he replied once to Marie and she caught him out.
----- Original Message -----
From: justcarol67
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again




"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> .......... as in holed beneath the waterline - MB on the dispensations and I on Thomas Stafford's execution.

Carol responds:

Sorry. "Holed (hauled?) beneath the waterline" still doesn't make sense to my American mind. What does it mean, translated from figurative to literal?

I'm taking it that you both challenged him, but, again, with what result? Did he fess up to his sins and errors?

Carol

"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Made a hole below his waterline to sink him.
> Marie's dispensations you know all about.
> His ODNB piece implied that TS was dhq'd but I found a source.
> I am possibly too notorious now to approach him now but he replied once to Marie and she caught him out.

Carol responds:

Oho! A nautical metaphor. So now I understand "holed," but what is "dhq'd"?

If we get bored, maybe someone can quote passages from Hicks for us to aim cannonballs at. Or from Weir or any other author whose boat we can sink.

BTW, I found to my astonishment that Sean Cunningham agrees with the Buckingham-wanted-to-be-king-himself theory that some of us propounded the other day. Too bad he's less astute on other points.

Carol

Dear Sandra,

Forgive me, but I don't share your feelings. On several occasions she took my casual remarks (including a lame joke - and who on this Forum hasn't made one or two of those?) and ran me into the "ground." Very wearing...and hurt my feelings. My last words to her were: "Why so adversarial?"

Judy




Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Claire



 
Is it just me? I miss Claire's posts, they were always interesting.

Sandra

"dhq'd" might be "drawn, hanged, quartered" (?) That was how I interpreted it, but I may well be wrong.

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



 


"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Made a hole below his waterline to sink him.
> Marie's dispensations you know all about.
> His ODNB piece implied that TS was dhq'd but I found a source.
> I am possibly too notorious now to approach him now but he replied once to Marie and she caught him out.

Carol responds:

Oho! A nautical metaphor. So now I understand "holed," but what is "dhq'd"?

If we get bored, maybe someone can quote passages from Hicks for us to aim cannonballs at. Or from Weir or any other author whose boat we can sink.

BTW, I found to my astonishment that Sean Cunningham agrees with the Buckingham-wanted-to-be-king-himself theory that some of us propounded the other day. Too bad he's less astute on other points.

Carol

I like it Eileen, would not touch her books with a barge pole.
Christine
Loyaulte me Lie

--- In , "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates147@...> wrote:
>
> Well prior to this she wrote an excellent book on Donald Duck....eileen
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain <pbain@> wrote:
> >
> > Amy License also has a book out about Cecily Neville.
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi Paul, I'm not one for book burning but I have to agree with you on this, Hicks leaves out evidence which does not suit his purpose, almost as bad as Weir.
Christine
Loyaulte me Lie

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Ignore. It is simply dreadful, actually libellous to both Anne and Richard.
> I'm more an expert on Richard than Hicks as I at least read all the
> evidence. He doesn't, making things up sometimes to serve his ghastly
> theories.
> This book should be burnt!
> Paul
>
>
> On 05/06/2013 11:30, Pamela Furmidge wrote:
> > I get a monthly magazine from a remainder book company. In this month's edition, I found the following:
> >
> > 'This is the first full-length biography of the enigmatic Annne Neville....Written by "the greatest living expert on Richard" (sic), it follows the misfortunes of Anne's short and tragic life, during which Richard not only imprisoned her mother, but also played a part in the killing of her first husband, her father and her father-in-law.'
> >
> > The book has been reduced from £9.99 to £4.99.......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Hello Judy I have to agree with you on this and I found her adversarial and dismissive of other peoples opinions and facts.
She was also repetitive.
Somewhat ghoulish re throat cutting etc.
I'm afraid I wont miss her at all, that's if she has gone.
Will save a great deal of space in my emails too.
Christine
Loyaulte me Lie


________________________________
From: Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 0:37
Subject: Re: Claire

 

Dear Sandra,

Forgive me, but I don't share your feelings. On several occasions she took my casual remarks (including a lame joke - and who on this Forum hasn't made one or two of those?) and ran me into the "ground." Very wearing...and hurt my feelings. My last words to her were: "Why so adversarial?"

Judy

Loyaulte me lie

________________________________
From: SandraMachin <mailto:sandramachin%40live.co.uk>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Claire


 
Is it just me? I miss Claire's posts, they were always interesting.

Sandra

"Drawn, hanged and quartered".
----- Original Message -----
From: justcarol67
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again





"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Made a hole below his waterline to sink him.
> Marie's dispensations you know all about.
> His ODNB piece implied that TS was dhq'd but I found a source.
> I am possibly too notorious now to approach him now but he replied once to Marie and she caught him out.

Carol responds:

Oho! A nautical metaphor. So now I understand "holed," but what is "dhq'd"?

If we get bored, maybe someone can quote passages from Hicks for us to aim cannonballs at. Or from Weir or any other author whose boat we can sink.

BTW, I found to my astonishment that Sean Cunningham agrees with the Buckingham-wanted-to-be-king-himself theory that some of us propounded the other day. Too bad he's less astute on other points.

Carol

Correct.
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Thomson
To:
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Hicks again



"dhq'd" might be "drawn, hanged, quartered" (?) That was how I interpreted it, but I may well be wrong.

Judy

Loyaulte me lie

________________________________
From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hicks again




"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Made a hole below his waterline to sink him.
> Marie's dispensations you know all about.
> His ODNB piece implied that TS was dhq'd but I found a source.
> I am possibly too notorious now to approach him now but he replied once to Marie and she caught him out.

Carol responds:

Oho! A nautical metaphor. So now I understand "holed," but what is "dhq'd"?

If we get bored, maybe someone can quote passages from Hicks for us to aim cannonballs at. Or from Weir or any other author whose boat we can sink.

BTW, I found to my astonishment that Sean Cunningham agrees with the Buckingham-wanted-to-be-king-himself theory that some of us propounded the other day. Too bad he's less astute on other points.

Carol

Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower useful.

I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.

I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.

I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)


On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> useful.
>
> I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
>
> I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
>
>
>



--
Lisa
The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
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I absolutely LOVE it!!!


From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:41 AM
To:
Subject: Uses for Alision Weir



Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower useful.

I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.

I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.

I know Christine...as my old Dad used to say its money for old rope...and some of these authors (I use the term loosely) are raking it in...books are being churned out at the speed of knots, Anne Neville and now Cecily, with the nearest minimum of research. But if there are people out there willing to buy this crap..! Eileen
--- In , "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
>
> I like it Eileen, would not touch her books with a barge pole.
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> --- In , "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates147@> wrote:
> >
> > Well prior to this she wrote an excellent book on Donald Duck....eileen
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain <pbain@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Amy License also has a book out about Cecily Neville.
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Lisa how lovely to see you back...hope you are well.

Now then who said to use AW in a test run of a renovated Serpentine canon...that is very cruel and who said it should be throughout ashamed....who am I , where am I? :0)

--- In , "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...> wrote:
>
> I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
>
>
> On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> > useful.
> >
> > I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> > after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
> >
> > I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> > remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>
>
>
>

UmmmmThat should read 'thoroughly ashamed'. struggling with this new IPad thingy.it keeps changing my words and if I type fast I don't spot it....Doh. Eleen
--- In , "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates147@...> wrote:
>
> Lisa how lovely to see you back...hope you are well.
>
> Now then who said to use AW in a test run of a renovated Serpentine canon...that is very cruel and who said it should be throughout ashamed....who am I , where am I? :0)
>
> --- In , "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@> wrote:
> >
> > I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
> >
> >
> > On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> > > useful.
> > >
> > > I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> > > after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
> > >
> > > I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> > > remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Me too Eileen. I have so many idiotic words in my email, and am embarrassed when I see some half brain message.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:57 PM, "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates147@...<mailto:eileenbates147@...>> wrote:



UmmmmThat should read 'thoroughly ashamed'. struggling with this new IPad thingy.it<http://thingy.it> keeps changing my words and if I type fast I don't spot it....Doh. Eleen
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates147@...> wrote:
>
> Lisa how lovely to see you back...hope you are well.
>
> Now then who said to use AW in a test run of a renovated Serpentine canon...that is very cruel and who said it should be throughout ashamed....who am I , where am I? :0)
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@> wrote:
> >
> > I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
> >
> >
> > On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> > > useful.
> > >
> > > I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> > > after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
> > >
> > > I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> > > remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com<http://www.Antiques-Boutique.com> <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*<http://www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*>
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

LOL! Yes I'm doing great! All the better for seeing humorous notes like
these...!


On 7 June 2013 14:51, EILEEN BATES <eileenbates147@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Lisa how lovely to see you back...hope you are well.
>
> Now then who said to use AW in a test run of a renovated Serpentine
> canon...that is very cruel and who said it should be throughout
> ashamed....who am I , where am I? :0)
>
> --- In , "Lisa @ The Antiques
> Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...> wrote:
> >
> > I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
> >
> >
> > On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> > > useful.
> > >
> > > I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to
> topple
> > > after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
> > >
> > > I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> > > remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > <
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



--
Lisa
The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
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Oh Lisa, it's good to hear from you!
 
I am so glad you and Wednesday are both so creative.  Maybe I missed out by not being it?


________________________________
From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:43
Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir


I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)


On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> useful.
>
> I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
>
> I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
>
> 
>



--
Lisa
The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
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Or even "buying it"  Hopeless.



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From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 20:13
Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir

 
Oh Lisa, it's good to hear from you!
 
I am so glad you and Wednesday are both so creative.  Maybe I missed out by not being it?

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From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <mailto:lisa.holtjones%40googlemail.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:43
Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir

I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)

On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <mailto:wednesday.mac%40gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> useful.
>
> I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
>
> I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
>
> 
>

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I took away the spine leaving me with a number of sheets that I sewed a
string through and hung up in the outhouse. Best use for AW's works,
helping things move along nicely, and keep clean;-) !
Paul


On 07/06/2013 20:13, liz williams wrote:
> Oh Lisa, it's good to hear from you!
>
> I am so glad you and Wednesday are both so creative. Maybe I missed out by not being it?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:43
> Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir
>
>
> I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
>
>
> On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
>> useful.
>>
>> I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
>> after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
>>
>> I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
>> remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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well DONT go buying one just to out do us!


On 7 June 2013 16:13, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh Lisa, it's good to hear from you!
>
> I am so glad you and Wednesday are both so creative. Maybe I missed out
> by not being it?
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:43
> Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir
>
> I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
>
> On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> > useful.
> >
> > I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> > after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
> >
> > I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> > remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
>
>
>
>



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Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

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I can't.  I am broke and saving my money for JAH's new one - no contest.



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From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 21:06
Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir


well DONT go buying one just to out do us!


On 7 June 2013 16:13, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh Lisa, it's good to hear from you!
>
> I am so glad you and Wednesday are both so creative.  Maybe I missed out
> by not being it?
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:43
> Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir
>
> I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
>
> On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> > useful.
> >
> > I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> > after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
> >
> > I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> > remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 
>



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The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
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I will admit to paying a charity shop $1 for the used copy I picked up. ::sweet smile:: So glad to contribute to a worthy cause.

~Weds

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Or even "buying it"  Hopeless.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
> To: "" <>
> Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 20:13
> Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir
>
>  
> Oh Lisa, it's good to hear from you!
>  
> I am so glad you and Wednesday are both so creative.  Maybe I missed out by not being it?
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <mailto:lisa.holtjones%40googlemail.com>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:43
> Subject: Re: Uses for Alision Weir
>
> I used mine for lighting the fire... ;-)
>
> On 7 June 2013 13:40, wednesday_mc <mailto:wednesday.mac%40gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Just this week, I found Alison Weir's book on the princes in the tower
> > useful.
> >
> > I'm having my tile replaced and a tall bookcase was threatening to topple
> > after being relocated to its carpeted storage area.
> >
> > I shoved Alison's paperback beneath a corner and voila! The bookcase
> > remained upright. So her work isn't entirely worthless.
> >
> > 
> >
>
> --
> Lisa

This made me smile: ...the kind of woman who, when her feet hit the floor each morning, makes the devil cry ~~ "Oh crap, She's up!"

Now, who springs to mind...?

Lol...what about her poor husband..probably e same thing runs through his head..he probably spends his life in the garden shed....Eileen

--- In , "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:
>
> This made me smile: ...the kind of woman who, when her feet hit the floor each morning, makes the devil cry ~~ "Oh crap, She's up!"
>
> Now, who springs to mind...?
>
>
>

I will certainly be interested. I do have the original Malinged King. Bought from the museum in York. Maybe they would be interested in showing the book and ordering by request. Regards. Coral
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
Sender:
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:04:49
To: <>
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Subject: Re: Annette Carson

Annette told me.....

As for my "Small Guide", the official title is going to be "Richard III:
A Small Guide to the Great Debate". It's only a little A5 paperback with
96 pages so I didn't bother taking it to The History Press, it would've
taken a year to publish and I'd have had to fight with their pesky
editors and designers! So I'm going the DIY route, and will be selling
them myself by mail order. At the moment I'm looking at a price of about
ý5, which should make it attractive to the general public, doncha think?
Once again I am not expecting it to make my fortune! It's really aimed
at the layman to explain the controversy -- but it has allowed me to
investigate certain aspects of the disappearance of the princes that I
couldn't otherwise go into, so it may prove interesting to Ricardians
(or infuriating, who knows?!).

I'll let everyone know how to order when Annette tells me it is ready.
Her special edition of Maligned King is now available at 25UKP plus
postage, though she is offering a discount for Ricardians.
Paul


On 06/06/2013 00:33, justcarol67 wrote:
> Hilary Jones wrote:
>> That's good and needed. Where is everyone, in the sun? I'm with Stillington for my sins.ý
> Carol responds:
>
> Definitely not in the sun. It's 104 degreed Fahrenheit here. (That's 40 degrees Celsius for those of you in the cool, mist-shrouded British Isles.) And 11 percent humidity. Stepping outside to get the mail or whatever is like stepping into an oven.
>
> to get back on topic, I'm looking forward to hearing more about Annette's book, which I'm guessing is Richard 101 for people just now learning about him from all the media hoopla.
>
> Carol
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