The heir of Henry Tudor?
The heir of Henry Tudor?
2009-04-03 19:36:01
I was wondering if anyone knows what would have happened had Henry VII been run over by a carriage before he'd managed to father an heir.
Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
Any ideas?
Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
Any ideas?
Re: The heir of Henry Tudor?
2009-04-03 19:40:22
I imagine that a boy named Edward Stafford would have been next!
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I was wondering if anyone knows what would have happened had Henry VII been run over by a carriage before he'd managed to father an heir.
Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
Any ideas?
----- Original Message -----
From: theblackprussian
To:
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:32 PM
Subject: The heir of Henry Tudor?
I was wondering if anyone knows what would have happened had Henry VII been run over by a carriage before he'd managed to father an heir.
Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
Any ideas?
Re: The heir of Henry Tudor?
2009-04-04 18:17:56
--- In , "theblackprussian" <theblackprussian@...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows what would have happened had Henry VII been run over by a carriage before he'd managed to father an heir.
>
> Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
>
> Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Quite seriously, Margaret (Beaufort) Tydder was her son's heir. Her heir was her cousin Margaret (Beaufort) Stafford. Her eldest son was Henry of Buckingham (x. Nov 1483) and thus her heir was Edward Stafford, son of Henry. Tydder eventually reversed the attainder; thus Edward was the 3rd Duke.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows what would have happened had Henry VII been run over by a carriage before he'd managed to father an heir.
>
> Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
>
> Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Quite seriously, Margaret (Beaufort) Tydder was her son's heir. Her heir was her cousin Margaret (Beaufort) Stafford. Her eldest son was Henry of Buckingham (x. Nov 1483) and thus her heir was Edward Stafford, son of Henry. Tydder eventually reversed the attainder; thus Edward was the 3rd Duke.
Re: The heir of Henry Tudor?
2009-04-05 17:44:32
Thanks, I was assuming the Stafford claim was through Edmund of Woodstock, which is why I discounted it as too remote.
--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
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> --- In , "theblackprussian" <theblackprussian@> wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows what would have happened had Henry VII been run over by a carriage before he'd managed to father an heir.
> >
> > Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
> >
> > Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> Quite seriously, Margaret (Beaufort) Tydder was her son's heir. Her heir was her cousin Margaret (Beaufort) Stafford. Her eldest son was Henry of Buckingham (x. Nov 1483) and thus her heir was Edward Stafford, son of Henry. Tydder eventually reversed the attainder; thus Edward was the 3rd Duke.
>
--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "theblackprussian" <theblackprussian@> wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows what would have happened had Henry VII been run over by a carriage before he'd managed to father an heir.
> >
> > Did he name an heir before this, as the Lancastrian party would have been left without a viable replacement in such an emergency. I don't recall ever having read about a contingency plan for this happy event, but there surely must have been one.
> >
> > Margaret Beaufort was the last legitimate member of that family, and could have no more children. Uncle Jasper had no claim. Technically the Earl of Westmoreland was heir of Lancaster (through his Holland mother), but this possible claim never seems to have been taken seriously. The new regime was implacably hostile to the House of York, so placing Princess Elizabeth on the throne in her own right would have been hard for them to stomach.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> Quite seriously, Margaret (Beaufort) Tydder was her son's heir. Her heir was her cousin Margaret (Beaufort) Stafford. Her eldest son was Henry of Buckingham (x. Nov 1483) and thus her heir was Edward Stafford, son of Henry. Tydder eventually reversed the attainder; thus Edward was the 3rd Duke.
>