May 4th

May 4th 1471 Tewkesbury Field was fought and the House of Lancaster
bled into the mud. Richard of Gloucester led the vanguard of the
victorious Yorkist army.
Remember the dead of both sides.
Paul



Richard liveth yet

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
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> May 4th 1471 Tewkesbury Field was fought and the House of Lancaster
> bled into the mud. Richard of Gloucester led the vanguard of the
> victorious Yorkist army.
> Remember the dead of both sides.
> Paul

There is an interesting battle trail. It is very thought provoking to spend time at the place where something as big as this has happened. I hate the thought of civil war and English shedding Englishmens blood. It made me tingle to stand in that huge doorway of the abbey and remember what happened that day on that very spot. Also visit the stone cross the site of the executions a couple of days later. The local people go dashing by on their everyday business. I wonder how many of them especially the younger ones know what took place that dreadful day.
And of course George of Clarence and Isobel Neville are buried there although you now cannot go down into their crypt. (Isobel spent time there in the infirmary when she was very sick after giving birth and was taken back to Warwick to die). It is very dark and spooky. However I would have jumped at the chance if I could have....
Eileen
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On an American Branch Ricardian Tour back in 1989, our group was permitted
to view the crypt. It is spooky but the niche in the wall containing the
bones (supposedly) of Clarence and Isobel

was somehow lit. I think I even took a picture - would have search through
my photos. We could only stay there a minute, then had to ascend the steep
stairs and let the next 2 or 3 people down.

I guess it was finally considered "irreverent" to have tourists trooping up
and down and taking flash pictures, hence the ban on current viewing. I
understand there is now even some doubt the bones are the actual ones of
George and Isobel..



L.M.L.,

Janet

I once went on a coach trip to Tewkesbury many years ago, it is one of the places I often drag the family to, I love the place it has so much atomosphere.  On this ocassion, many of the coach trippers went to the usual tea shoppes etc and I went alone to the Abbey.

They were having some work done and the main curate (or whatever he was) asked me about my interest in the Abbey etc and after about 20 mins offered to show me the bones which had been removed while work was being undertaken.  To my dying day I will regret saying no.

Marion

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, eileen <ebatesparrot@...> wrote:
From: eileen <ebatesparrot@...>
Subject: Re: May 4th
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--- In richardiiisocietyfo rum@yahoogroups. com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@. ..> wrote:

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> May 4th 1471 Tewkesbury Field was fought and the House of Lancaster

> bled into the mud. Richard of Gloucester led the vanguard of the

> victorious Yorkist army.

> Remember the dead of both sides.

> Paul



There is an interesting battle trail. It is very thought provoking to spend time at the place where something as big as this has happened. I hate the thought of civil war and English shedding Englishmens blood. It made me tingle to stand in that huge doorway of the abbey and remember what happened that day on that very spot. Also visit the stone cross the site of the executions a couple of days later. The local people go dashing by on their everyday business. I wonder how many of them especially the younger ones know what took place that dreadful day.

And of course George of Clarence and Isobel Neville are buried there although you now cannot go down into their crypt. (Isobel spent time there in the infirmary when she was very sick after giving birth and was taken back to Warwick to die). It is very dark and spooky. However I would have jumped at the chance if I could have....

Eileen

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