Hi to all!

Dear all,
 
I'm so excited to be joining this group and being able to communicate with fellow Ricardians.  I've been following the discussions you've been having and have already learnt a lot!  I hope I'll be able to contribute something too....
 
Having re-joined the Richard III Society after about a 20 year gap I was sorry to see that there is no longer a Kent Branch of the society.  Could anyone give me any information about branches/groups that I might join? I live in Maidstone.  Thanks!
 
I visited the Barnet battlefield last year with my son - we had a great day!  I would now like to visit Tewkesbury.  Any other battlefields recommended?  Have there been any conclusions yet about the siting of Bosworth?
 
Regards,
 
Elaine
 
 
 
 
  

Hi Elaine - Welcome from me and I'm sure from all in this forum. I'm no
expert on the Society's structure, but it seems to me you'd do well to
contact John Ashdown-Hill whose portfolio is Branch and Group Liaison -
email louis-john@... <mailto:louis-john@...> .

I believe the Worcester branch is always well represented at the
Tewkesbury commemorations, so why not contact Bam Benstead and arrange
to link up with them during your visit? Email pb@...
<mailto:pb@...> .

I will leave it to others to discuss the siting of Bosworth, but
meanwhile, as one whose life is subject to the rule of animals, may I be
nosy and enquire whether 'mistyand spice' are canine or feline? [;)]
Regards, Annette


--- In , Elaine Hunt
<mistyandspice@...> wrote:
> I'm so excited to be joining this group and being able to communicate
with fellow Ricardians. I've been following the discussions you've been
having and have already learnt a lot! I hope I'll be able to contribute
something too....
>
> Having re-joined the Richard III Society after about a 20 year gap I
was sorry to see that there is no longer a Kent Branch of the society.
Could anyone give me any information about branches/groups that I might
join? I live in Maidstone. Thanks!
>
> I visited the Barnet battlefield last year with my son - we had a
great day! I would now like to visit Tewkesbury. Any other
battlefields recommended? Have there been any conclusions yet about the
siting of Bosworth?
>
> Regards, Elaine
>

Hello Annette

Misty and Spice are two of my cats - Spice died in 2004 at age 20 after a long and happy life (she was fantastic) and Misty is our current cat. We also have two others - Misty's son and daughter - so as you can see we are cat lovers! Are you a cat or dog person?

Thanks for the info about groups - I'll get in touch with John.

By the way, I love your book! For a start, the cover is great - I saw the original painting in London last year - it was wonderful! Richard looked like he might "step out" of the painting - it looked so lifelike. It was very refreshing to read some new theories and ideas about various aspects of Richard, instead of all the usual stuff that is brought out. I'm sure I'll have loads of questions!

Regards
Elaine






-- In , "annettecarson@..." <ajcarson@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Elaine - Welcome from me and I'm sure from all in this forum. I'm no
> expert on the Society's structure, but it seems to me you'd do well to
> contact John Ashdown-Hill whose portfolio is Branch and Group Liaison -
> email louis-john@... <mailto:louis-john@...> .
>
> I believe the Worcester branch is always well represented at the
> Tewkesbury commemorations, so why not contact Bam Benstead and arrange
> to link up with them during your visit? Email pb@...
> <mailto:pb@...> .
>
> I will leave it to others to discuss the siting of Bosworth, but
> meanwhile, as one whose life is subject to the rule of animals, may I be
> nosy and enquire whether 'mistyand spice' are canine or feline? [;)]
> Regards, Annette
>
>
> --- In , Elaine Hunt
> <mistyandspice@> wrote:
> > I'm so excited to be joining this group and being able to communicate
> with fellow Ricardians. I've been following the discussions you've been
> having and have already learnt a lot! I hope I'll be able to contribute
> something too....
> >
> > Having re-joined the Richard III Society after about a 20 year gap I
> was sorry to see that there is no longer a Kent Branch of the society.
> Could anyone give me any information about branches/groups that I might
> join? I live in Maidstone. Thanks!
> >
> > I visited the Barnet battlefield last year with my son - we had a
> great day! I would now like to visit Tewkesbury. Any other
> battlefields recommended? Have there been any conclusions yet about the
> siting of Bosworth?
> >
> > Regards, Elaine
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ah, Elaine, where to start? I am deeply involved in running my local
animal protection organisation, the Karoo Animal Protection Society
(www.kaps.org.za <http://www.kaps.org.za> ) which involves doing all the
admin, correspondence, member services, newsletters and lots of
fostering. We don't agree with putting animals in cages and kennels, so
we foster all our rescued animals in our members' households. In the
last seven years I've fostered over 100 animals, mostly dogs, while my
own two (Lucy and Barney) put up with a constant stream of interlopers,
poor things. My total of foster-children is quite low at present, being
two dogs and three kittens.

Glad you enjoyed The Maligned King. I must admit I'm extremely surprised
to see that mine is the only book published since October 2008 that has
used the cleaned and restored early portrait on the cover - I assumed
that all reputable historians would use it thereafter, but amazingly
they haven't. I fought like a tiger to get it on the cover as the
publishers considered it too expensive, and I ended up paying for it
myself. I think it tells you something about writers when they don't
care how accurately their book jackets portray the image of their
subjects.

Best wishes, Annette


--- In , "mistyandspice"
<mistyandspice@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Annette
>
> Misty and Spice are two of my cats - Spice died in 2004 at age 20
after a long and happy life (she was fantastic) and Misty is our current
cat. We also have two others - Misty's son and daughter - so as you can
see we are cat lovers! Are you a cat or dog person?
>
> Thanks for the info about groups - I'll get in touch with John.
>
> By the way, I love your book! For a start, the cover is great - I saw
the original painting in London last year - it was wonderful! Richard
looked like he might "step out" of the painting - it looked so lifelike.
It was very refreshing to read some new theories and ideas about various
aspects of Richard, instead of all the usual stuff that is brought out.
I'm sure I'll have loads of questions!
>
> Regards
> Elaine

I lost my beloved cat in 2002 aged 18. I called him Clarence, because
just after I got him he climbed on the table and dived into a glass
of red wine!
Annette knows my feelings about her book:-)
Paul


On 7 Jun 2009, at 17:54, mistyandspice wrote:

> Hello Annette
>
> Misty and Spice are two of my cats - Spice died in 2004 at age 20
> after a long and happy life (she was fantastic) and Misty is our
> current cat. We also have two others - Misty's son and daughter -
> so as you can see we are cat lovers! Are you a cat or dog person?
>
> Thanks for the info about groups - I'll get in touch with John.
>
> By the way, I love your book! For a start, the cover is great - I
> saw the original painting in London last year - it was wonderful!
> Richard looked like he might "step out" of the painting - it looked
> so lifelike. It was very refreshing to read some new theories and
> ideas about various aspects of Richard, instead of all the usual
> stuff that is brought out. I'm sure I'll have loads of questions!
>
> Regards
> Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- In , "annettecarson@..."
> <ajcarson@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Elaine - Welcome from me and I'm sure from all in this forum.
>> I'm no
>> expert on the Society's structure, but it seems to me you'd do
>> well to
>> contact John Ashdown-Hill whose portfolio is Branch and Group
>> Liaison -
>> email louis-john@... <mailto:louis-john@...> .
>>
>> I believe the Worcester branch is always well represented at the
>> Tewkesbury commemorations, so why not contact Bam Benstead and
>> arrange
>> to link up with them during your visit? Email pb@...
>> <mailto:pb@...> .
>>
>> I will leave it to others to discuss the siting of Bosworth, but
>> meanwhile, as one whose life is subject to the rule of animals,
>> may I be
>> nosy and enquire whether 'mistyand spice' are canine or feline? [;)]
>> Regards, Annette
>>
>>
>> --- In , Elaine Hunt
>> <mistyandspice@> wrote:
>>> I'm so excited to be joining this group and being able to
>>> communicate
>> with fellow Ricardians. I've been following the discussions
>> you've been
>> having and have already learnt a lot! I hope I'll be able to
>> contribute
>> something too....
>>>
>>> Having re-joined the Richard III Society after about a 20 year gap I
>> was sorry to see that there is no longer a Kent Branch of the
>> society.
>> Could anyone give me any information about branches/groups that I
>> might
>> join? I live in Maidstone. Thanks!
>>>
>>> I visited the Barnet battlefield last year with my son - we had a
>> great day! I would now like to visit Tewkesbury. Any other
>> battlefields recommended? Have there been any conclusions yet
>> about the
>> siting of Bosworth?
>>>
>>> Regards, Elaine
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard liveth yet

Wow, Annette - how great that you foster animals - I presume you keep them until you find a permanent home? How did you ever find time to write a book? How long did it take to write? Where did you do your research? I would like to visit the National Archives and the British Library and see some of the original documents - did you do this? I recently read Sean Cunningham's book on Richard and he said one could visit and look at these documents.

Paul - hi! - your cat Clarence sounds like he was a real character!!
(I've just thought - my cat Misty could have been named for Barnet...)
I've just started reading Peter Foss's book about Bosworth and I think I saw you name in the preface - do you have some particular connection to Bosworth?

Best wishes
Elaine

PS I'd love to know how you all became interested in Richard.











--- In , "annettecarson@..." <ajcarson@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ah, Elaine, where to start? I am deeply involved in running my local
> animal protection organisation, the Karoo Animal Protection Society
> (www.kaps.org.za <http://www.kaps.org.za> ) which involves doing all the
> admin, correspondence, member services, newsletters and lots of
> fostering. We don't agree with putting animals in cages and kennels, so
> we foster all our rescued animals in our members' households. In the
> last seven years I've fostered over 100 animals, mostly dogs, while my
> own two (Lucy and Barney) put up with a constant stream of interlopers,
> poor things. My total of foster-children is quite low at present, being
> two dogs and three kittens.
>
> Glad you enjoyed The Maligned King. I must admit I'm extremely surprised
> to see that mine is the only book published since October 2008 that has
> used the cleaned and restored early portrait on the cover - I assumed
> that all reputable historians would use it thereafter, but amazingly
> they haven't. I fought like a tiger to get it on the cover as the
> publishers considered it too expensive, and I ended up paying for it
> myself. I think it tells you something about writers when they don't
> care how accurately their book jackets portray the image of their
> subjects.
>
> Best wishes, Annette
>
>
> --- In , "mistyandspice"
> <mistyandspice@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Annette
> >
> > Misty and Spice are two of my cats - Spice died in 2004 at age 20
> after a long and happy life (she was fantastic) and Misty is our current
> cat. We also have two others - Misty's son and daughter - so as you can
> see we are cat lovers! Are you a cat or dog person?
> >
> > Thanks for the info about groups - I'll get in touch with John.
> >
> > By the way, I love your book! For a start, the cover is great - I saw
> the original painting in London last year - it was wonderful! Richard
> looked like he might "step out" of the painting - it looked so lifelike.
> It was very refreshing to read some new theories and ideas about various
> aspects of Richard, instead of all the usual stuff that is brought out.
> I'm sure I'll have loads of questions!
> >
> > Regards
> > Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hello Elaine
In a way I am responsible for discovering Peter Foss! he was sitting
outside the church in Dadlington one summer's day in 83, by a chalk
board offering walks to where the battle "really took place".
Afterwards I got copies of his articles in the Market Bosworth local
paper, showed them to some Yorkshire Branch folk, who put him
together with the Rosalba Press who published his theories.
Clarence was the most vocal cat I've ever met!:-)
Paul


On 7 Jun 2009, at 23:32, mistyandspice wrote:

> Wow, Annette - how great that you foster animals - I presume you
> keep them until you find a permanent home? How did you ever find
> time to write a book? How long did it take to write? Where did
> you do your research? I would like to visit the National Archives
> and the British Library and see some of the original documents -
> did you do this? I recently read Sean Cunningham's book on Richard
> and he said one could visit and look at these documents.
>
> Paul - hi! - your cat Clarence sounds like he was a real character!!
> (I've just thought - my cat Misty could have been named for Barnet...)
> I've just started reading Peter Foss's book about Bosworth and I
> think I saw you name in the preface - do you have some particular
> connection to Bosworth?
>
> Best wishes
> Elaine
>
> PS I'd love to know how you all became interested in Richard.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In , "annettecarson@..."
> <ajcarson@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ah, Elaine, where to start? I am deeply involved in running my local
>> animal protection organisation, the Karoo Animal Protection Society
>> (www.kaps.org.za <http://www.kaps.org.za> ) which involves doing
>> all the
>> admin, correspondence, member services, newsletters and lots of
>> fostering. We don't agree with putting animals in cages and
>> kennels, so
>> we foster all our rescued animals in our members' households. In the
>> last seven years I've fostered over 100 animals, mostly dogs,
>> while my
>> own two (Lucy and Barney) put up with a constant stream of
>> interlopers,
>> poor things. My total of foster-children is quite low at present,
>> being
>> two dogs and three kittens.
>>
>> Glad you enjoyed The Maligned King. I must admit I'm extremely
>> surprised
>> to see that mine is the only book published since October 2008
>> that has
>> used the cleaned and restored early portrait on the cover - I assumed
>> that all reputable historians would use it thereafter, but amazingly
>> they haven't. I fought like a tiger to get it on the cover as the
>> publishers considered it too expensive, and I ended up paying for it
>> myself. I think it tells you something about writers when they don't
>> care how accurately their book jackets portray the image of their
>> subjects.
>>
>> Best wishes, Annette
>>
>>
>> --- In , "mistyandspice"
>> <mistyandspice@> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Annette
>>>
>>> Misty and Spice are two of my cats - Spice died in 2004 at age 20
>> after a long and happy life (she was fantastic) and Misty is our
>> current
>> cat. We also have two others - Misty's son and daughter - so as
>> you can
>> see we are cat lovers! Are you a cat or dog person?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info about groups - I'll get in touch with John.
>>>
>>> By the way, I love your book! For a start, the cover is great - I
>>> saw
>> the original painting in London last year - it was wonderful! Richard
>> looked like he might "step out" of the painting - it looked so
>> lifelike.
>> It was very refreshing to read some new theories and ideas about
>> various
>> aspects of Richard, instead of all the usual stuff that is brought
>> out.
>> I'm sure I'll have loads of questions!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Elaine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard liveth yet

Hello Elaine - Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but it's been a hectic week. Yes, my organisation keeps all rescued animals until a permanent home is found - sometimes they stay forever if need be. I've had a fox terrier with me for over a year now and he probably won't be adopted as he's badly scarred, but never mind, Bennie thinks he's my third dog anyway, so he probably is!

You probably haven't spotted that I'm currently resident in South Africa, so I couldn't do any research myself on Richard III at the British Library or TNA, although I've often haunted the British Library and other libraries/museums around the world for previous books. To be honest it wouldn't have done much good this time because I am not expert enough in mediaeval English, Latin, French or palaeography - and nowadays one doesn't need to be, because virtually all the documents relevant to what I am researching have been studied, translated and published in modern books or even online. In fact, Richard III Society members in the UK are luckier than me because you can borrow from the Barton Library, whereas I had to buy the books I needed (plays violin plaintively).

So no one need be deterred from trying their hand at following up some topic or query, as there are plenty of resources available.

Of course, using secondary sources means you have to place your faith in others, so sometimes you have to look at the original to check your ideas. My Latin is schoolgirl standard, but sufficient to pick up (for example) that Vergil never says Henry Tudor took that oath at Christmas 1483 in the "cathedral" at Rennes, as Tudor writers later claimed. And whenever I started getting the bit between my teeth about Latin translations, I always had the wonderful help of people like Lesley Boatwright to exchange ideas with. John Ashdown-Hill was also a fantastic resource as he regularly goes to the British Library and other libraries, and happily looked things up for me.

The one thing you miss that way is examining the original manuscripts, which I would have loved to see with my own eyes. Certain documents, like Richard's "untrue creature" letter, are encountered quite often in book illustrations, but I have to confess to a shiver up my spine when I saw Titulus Regius in the scan sent me by The National Archives, I can't say why - partly, I'm sure, because this sole copy is so incredibly significant as it ought to have been destroyed. Cunningham uses it as well, but it was very different seeing the scan. I only wish I could have included many more illustrations in my book, but it's an expensive business unless TNA are paying, as they did for Cunningham!

There are a couple of topics that I would still like to research from original documents, but I fear I will probably have to leave them for someone else (or until I return to live in England).

As regards the process of writing the book, I never write to commissions so the books I write derive from my personal interest in the topic. I can always tell when a book is suggesting itself, because I find myself making notes, looking up facts and writing analyses. Unless it's a biography, the difficult thing is deciding the specific topic of a book; but when that's decided I just proceed with writing and researching more or less simultaneously. To avoid being boring, if you'd like to know more about the process you can look at an interview I did online last year - it's at http://vulpeslibris.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/richard-iii-week-interview-with-annette-carson/
All the best, Annette

--- In , "mistyandspice" <mistyandspice@...> wrote:
>
> Wow, Annette - how great that you foster animals - I presume you keep them until you find a permanent home? How did you ever find time to write a book? How long did it take to write? Where did you do your research? I would like to visit the National Archives and the British Library and see some of the original documents - did you do this? I recently read Sean Cunningham's book on Richard and he said one could visit and look at these documents.