Tutor

In my notes I came across an entry I had forgotten, or more probably
not been aware of before.

In 1473 on 20 February Richard was appointed 'tutor and councillor of
the Prince of Wales, an co-administrator of his holdings until he
reaches the age of 14'.

Now as this doesn't seem to have ever been rescinded does it not
alter how we should look at 1483 and Richard's relationship with his
nephew. Knowing Richard's sense of responsibility and work ethic I
doubt this something he did not take seriously. This also would have
brought him into close contact with young Edward, as well as Rivers
on a regular basis too I would posit.
Paul


Richard liveth yet

Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote: "...In 1473 on 20 February Richard was appointed 'tutor and councillor of the Prince of Wales, an co-administrator of his holdings until he reaches the age of 14'.

Now as this doesn't seem to have ever been rescinded does it not alter how we should look at 1483 and Richard's relationship with his nephew. Knowing Richard's sense of responsibility and work ethic I doubt this something he did not take seriously. This also would have brought him into close contact with young Edward, as well as Rivers on a regular basis too I would posit."

That's a very tantalizing point. How hard would it be to determine when Richard could have been where prince Edward was between 1473 and 1483? I think that Richard would have had to have seen Edward during that ten year period with regular frequency in order to have had much influence on Edward.

I also wonder how frequent Richard's "visits" to Ludlow would have been after George was executed. Is it possible to compile an itinerary for Richard and prince Edward over that ten year period?

Joan
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Umm, this is the date of the revised appointment for the Prince's council (the original dating from July 1471). Richard had been appointed a member on both occasions (as, indeed, had Clarence, Hastings and Archbishop Bourchier).
However, the tutor and governor appointed for the Prince in February 1473 was Rivers. Six months later the job of tutor was given to Alcock, but Rivers remained the Prince's governor and head of his council. When the Prince's household was separated from the court and moved to Ludlow, those members of his council who did not form part of his household and were not based within reach of Ludlow would have found their mmbership becoming fairly nominal.

But, yes, Richard was nominally a councillor of the Prince, as well as being his paternal uncle. But sadly there's little to be gained from this as evidence that Richard didn't do away with Edward V, because traditionalists generally don't take the view of his character you have expressed. They take the murders as a given - and point out that his deposition by Richard is beyond dispute - and read Richard's character accordingly. The Ross/ Hicks picture of Richard as a ruthless landgrabber, capable of bullying old ladies and goodness knows what else if it serves his interests, is now almost never questioned even by Ricardians, despite much of the 'evidence' on which is is based being (it seems to my possibly ignorant self) a misconstruction of the facts.

Marie


--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
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> In my notes I came across an entry I had forgotten, or more probably
> not been aware of before.
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> In 1473 on 20 February Richard was appointed 'tutor and councillor of
> the Prince of Wales, an co-administrator of his holdings until he
> reaches the age of 14'.
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> Now as this doesn't seem to have ever been rescinded does it not
> alter how we should look at 1483 and Richard's relationship with his
> nephew. Knowing Richard's sense of responsibility and work ethic I
> doubt this something he did not take seriously. This also would have
> brought him into close contact with young Edward, as well as Rivers
> on a regular basis too I would posit.
> Paul
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> Richard liveth yet
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