The old format is back

The old Groups format is back, or at least it is on my computer. And this group is the first one, of the several I belong to, that had gotten the "new improved" treatment.

Hope it says in the old fuddy duddy format.

Same here - perhaps they LISTENED?

--- In , "oregon_katy" <oregon_katy@...> wrote:
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> The old Groups format is back, or at least it is on my computer. And this group is the first one, of the several I belong to, that had gotten the "new improved" treatment.
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> Hope it says in the old fuddy duddy format.
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no perhaps. they did listen. i know i contacted yahoo directly and told them we were a serious research group comprised of mostly middle aged people. we were not interested in a facebook format. we did not live in our parent's basements in a world of make believe role playing. that the serious groups, like ours would migrate elsewhere, and they would lose advertising revenues.
 
roslyn

--- On Sat, 9/18/10, stephenmlark <stephenmlark@...> wrote:


From: stephenmlark <stephenmlark@...>
Subject: Re: The old format is back
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Received: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:53 AM


 



Same here - perhaps they LISTENED?

--- In , "oregon_katy" <oregon_katy@...> wrote:
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> The old Groups format is back, or at least it is on my computer. And this group is the first one, of the several I belong to, that had gotten the "new improved" treatment.
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> Hope it says in the old fuddy duddy format.
>

So, are we all back here for now? If so, e probably should keep the
Google group as backup in case the reason this old and desirable format
is back is because Yahoo is planning on some tweaks and this is just for
the interim. Yahoo used to be the top search engine and was replaced by
Google several years ago. Bing recently moved to the #2 slot, with Yahoo
slipping to third. Bottom line, Yahoo is in trouble and I expect they
will continue to experiment with their different products in an effort
to boost revenue and gain back some of the market share they've lost.

Joan
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author of This Time, a novel about Richard III in the 21st-century
website: http://www.joanszechtman.com/
blog: http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/
ebook: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/3935
2010 Next Generation Indie Book Awards General Fiction Finalist

--- In , fayre rose
<fayreroze@...> wrote:
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> no perhaps. they did listen. i know i contacted yahoo directly and
told them we were a serious research group comprised of mostly middle
aged people. we were not interested in a facebook format. we did not
live in our parent's basements in a world of make believe role playing.
that the serious groups, like ours would migrate elsewhere, and they
would lose advertising revenues.
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> roslyn
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> --- On Sat, 9/18/10, stephenmlark stephenmlark@... wrote:
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> From: stephenmlark stephenmlark@...
> Subject: Re: The old format is back
> To:
> Received: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:53 AM
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> Same here - perhaps they LISTENED?
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> --- In , "oregon_katy"
oregon_katy@ wrote:
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> > The old Groups format is back, or at least it is on my computer. And
this group is the first one, of the several I belong to, that had gotten
the "new improved" treatment.
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> > Hope it says in the old fuddy duddy format.
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--- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
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> no perhaps. they did listen. i know i contacted yahoo directly and told them we were a serious research group comprised of mostly middle aged people. we were not interested in a facebook format. we did not live in our parent's basements in a world of make believe role playing. that the serious groups, like ours would migrate elsewhere, and they would lose advertising revenues.



Well, then, thank you for singlehandedly changing Yahoo Groups' mind.

When I read the Yahoo Groups Blog, it was full of declarations of dislike of the new format and pleas to at least provide the option of using the old format, and Yahoo was staunchly defending the new "improved" look and tell everyone how much they would love it once they got used to it. I'm glad you were able to persuade them otherwise.

Katy

--- In , "joansr3" <u2nohoo@...> wrote:
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> So, are we all back here for now? If so, e probably should keep the
> Google group as backup in case the reason this old and desirable format
> is back is because Yahoo is planning on some tweaks and this is just for
> the interim.



I think that's a very good idea. You never know when Yahoo will launch another "improvement" to this site. Unannounced, of course.

It would be a good idea if some savvy soul (don't look at me) would pull the archives and photos off onto a separate storage device.

Katy

--- In , "joansr3" <u2nohoo@...> wrote:
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> So, are we all back here for now? If so, e probably should keep the
> Google group as backup in case the reason this old and desirable format
> is back is because Yahoo is planning on some tweaks and this is just for
> the interim.


Oh, another thought...how about posting something on the new Google group site directing visitors back to this one? Otherwise we might miss out on meeting some interested parties who discovered the Google group but found it unused and full of cobwebs?

Katy

I agree with Joan. If everyone is reasonably happy that the format has
been restored to the way it was before then we might as well continue.

The good part about Yahoo being dogmatic for a while in the new format
is that we actually had an alternative place to move which met our
needs, so I propose that we keep the Google site, mothball it as it is
and have it in our back pocket (or handbag even) if they suddenly decide
to enforce the new format again. I'll leave things as they are for a
week or two and then put another message on the Google site explaining
the situation and point people back here. If Yahoo do, then it will only
take a matter of hours to get all the members moved over. Joan and
myself can do this if the need arises. If people want to join the Google
site anyway they are quite weolcome to as it will reduce the time to
migrate if needed.

An interesting tool on Google indicates that we can do a bulk migration
of members to the new site and it will be reasonably transparent. The
only down side is that we will not be able to take all the mesages
created over the last 10 years, but that could be a small price to pay.

Regards,

Neil

On 18/09/2010 16:07, joansr3 wrote:
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> So, are we all back here for now? If so, e probably should keep the
> Google group as backup in case the reason this old and desirable format
> is back is because Yahoo is planning on some tweaks and this is just for
> the interim. Yahoo used to be the top search engine and was replaced by
> Google several years ago. Bing recently moved to the #2 slot, with Yahoo
> slipping to third. Bottom line, Yahoo is in trouble and I expect they
> will continue to experiment with their different products in an effort
> to boost revenue and gain back some of the market share they've lost.
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time, a novel about Richard III in the 21st-century
> website: http://www.joanszechtman.com/
> blog: http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/
> ebook: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/3935
> 2010 Next Generation Indie Book Awards General Fiction Finalist
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, fayre rose
> <fayreroze@...> wrote:
> >
> > no perhaps. they did listen. i know i contacted yahoo directly and
> told them we were a serious research group comprised of mostly middle
> aged people. we were not interested in a facebook format. we did not
> live in our parent's basements in a world of make believe role playing.
> that the serious groups, like ours would migrate elsewhere, and they
> would lose advertising revenues.
> > Â
> > roslyn
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> > --- On Sat, 9/18/10, stephenmlark stephenmlark@... wrote:
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> > From: stephenmlark stephenmlark@...
> > Subject: Re: The old format is back
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Received: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:53 AM
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> > Same here - perhaps they LISTENED?
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> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "oregon_katy"
> oregon_katy@ wrote:
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> > > The old Groups format is back, or at least it is on my computer. And
> this group is the first one, of the several I belong to, that had gotten
> the "new improved" treatment.
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"oregon_katy" wrote:
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> The old Groups format is back, or at least it is on my computer. And this group is the first one, of the several I belong to, that had gotten the "new improved" treatment.
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> Hope it says in the old fuddy duddy format.

Carol responds:

Me, too! Hooray!

BTW, someone mentioned that the Search function was still there in the improved format. Yes, there was a link, but it didn't work. Nope, all around, the Facebook format was a disaster.

Carol, suspecting that Yahoo got so many complaints that it had to yield to the group members or die

--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
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> BTW, someone mentioned that the Search function was still there in the improved format. Yes, there was a link, but it didn't work. Nope, all around, the Facebook format was a disaster.
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> Carol, suspecting that Yahoo got so many complaints that it had to yield to the group members or die
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I not only hated the new format, I really resented how it was suddenly foist upon us without warning, especially when it apparently kidnapped the group archives and photos. (Were they returned, by the way? I better check.)

Yahoo has done that with other "improvements" in the past year or so, including its home page, but other times it has at least offered the option of going back to the old format. Eventually, of course, they end that option and it's the new one or nothing. And even though I opted to return to "traditional" on the home page, I never did find my bookmarks again.

Katy

i sure wouldn't say, i did it single handedly. this return to format may not last. i think it does mean that everyone who is concerned about the change to format should contact yahoo directly vs the open/public market...

--- On Sat, 9/18/10, oregon_katy <oregon_katy@...> wrote:


From: oregon_katy <oregon_katy@...>
Subject: Re: The old format is back
To:
Received: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 11:34 AM


 





--- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
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> no perhaps. they did listen. i know i contacted yahoo directly and told them we were a serious research group comprised of mostly middle aged people. we were not interested in a facebook format. we did not live in our parent's basements in a world of make believe role playing. that the serious groups, like ours would migrate elsewhere, and they would lose advertising revenues.

Well, then, thank you for singlehandedly changing Yahoo Groups' mind.

When I read the Yahoo Groups Blog, it was full of declarations of dislike of the new format and pleas to at least provide the option of using the old format, and Yahoo was staunchly defending the new "improved" look and tell everyone how much they would love it once they got used to it. I'm glad you were able to persuade them otherwise.

Katy