Scarecrow discussion

I'm with Pam! I like "tatie bogle", has a nice Medieval ring to it!

Happy Thanksgiving all!

L.M.L.,
Janet

True, but all these choices are regional and I'll need to choose the one
that my character would most likely have encountered.

Joan
---
author of This Time, a novel about Richard III in the 21st-century
2010 Next Generation Indie Book Awards General Fiction Finalist
website: http://www.joanszechtman.com/
blog: http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/
ebook: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/3935

--- In , "J. T," <treenbagh@...>
wrote:
>
> I'm with Pam! I like "tatie bogle", has a nice Medieval ring to
it!
>
> Happy Thanksgiving all!
>
> L.M.L.,
> Janet
>

Hi Joan,

Fascinating discussion. The southern English dialect scarecrow words mommet and murmet look like to me like variants of 'mammet', which was the medieval word for a doll. The images witches made to inflict their magic on people were also called mammets. This is from a 15th-century petition against a woman allegedly practising witchcraft in Southwark:-
"your said Besecher by auctorite of the said commaundement went ... into an house called the lasour loke in Suthwerk in Kentstrete and there founde dyverses mamettes for Wychecraftes and enchauntementez with other stuffe beryed and depely hydd vnder the erthe...."

Marie

--- In , "joansr3" <u2nohoo@...> wrote:
>
> True, but all these choices are regional and I'll need to choose the one
> that my character would most likely have encountered.
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time, a novel about Richard III in the 21st-century
> 2010 Next Generation Indie Book Awards General Fiction Finalist
> website: http://www.joanszechtman.com/
> blog: http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/
> ebook: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/3935
>
> --- In , "J. T," <treenbagh@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Pam! I like "tatie bogle", has a nice Medieval ring to
> it!
> >
> > Happy Thanksgiving all!
> >
> > L.M.L.,
> > Janet
> >
>

A poppet is also a doll. Hence the word puppet

On 24/11/2010 7:16 PM, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
>
>
> Hi Joan,
>
> Fascinating discussion. The southern English dialect scarecrow words
> mommet and murmet look like to me like variants of 'mammet', which was
> the medieval word for a doll. The images witches made to inflict their
> magic on people were also called mammets. This is from a 15th-century
> petition against a woman allegedly practising witchcraft in Southwark:-
> "your said Besecher by auctorite of the said commaundement went ...
> into an house called the lasour loke in Suthwerk in Kentstrete and
> there founde dyverses mamettes for Wychecraftes and enchauntementez
> with other stuffe beryed and depely hydd vnder the erthe...."
>
> Marie
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "joansr3"
> <u2nohoo@...> wrote:
> >
> > True, but all these choices are regional and I'll need to choose the one
> > that my character would most likely have encountered.
> >
> > Joan
> > ---
> > author of This Time, a novel about Richard III in the 21st-century
> > 2010 Next Generation Indie Book Awards General Fiction Finalist
> > website: http://www.joanszechtman.com/
> > blog: http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/
> > ebook: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/3935
> >
> > --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "J. T," <treenbagh@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm with Pam! I like "tatie bogle", has a nice Medieval ring to
> > it!
> > >
> > > Happy Thanksgiving all!
> > >
> > > L.M.L.,
> > > Janet
> > >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
> Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3277 - Release Date: 11/24/10
>