The day Approaches

Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
Paul


"Richard Liveth Yet!"

I'm already in a state of the Blues; we never forget around here.

This whole year has been "on" for days of the week in 1485.

Judy

Aye, Richard liveth...


________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:18 AM
Subject: The day Approaches


 
Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
Paul

"Richard Liveth Yet!"

Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please come along and say hello.
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Trevor Bale
To: RichardIIISociety forum
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: The day Approaches



Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
Paul

"Richard Liveth Yet!"

Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

Judy


________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches


 
Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please come along and say hello.
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Trevor Bale
To: RichardIIISociety forum
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: The day Approaches

Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
Paul

"Richard Liveth Yet!"

I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and quibblers over the centuries.

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
>
> Judy
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>  
> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please come along and say hello.
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To: RichardIIISociety forum
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> Subject: The day Approaches
>
> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
> Paul
>
> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
> Paul
>
>
> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>
>
> You are right Paul we should never forget. Just think how different this country might be if he had lived. R.I.P King Richard 111 Loyaulte me Lie
>
>
>
>
>

I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all day. rest in peace, king Richard.  By the way,did anyone note the Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the part better

From: HI <hi.dung@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches


 
I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and quibblers over the centuries.

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
>
> Judy
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>  
> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please come along and say hello.
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To: RichardIIISociety forum
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> Subject: The day Approaches
>
> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
> Paul
>
> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

--- In , carole jenkins
<carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
part better
>
> From: HI hi.dung@...
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
> Â
> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
quibblers over the centuries.
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Annette Carson email@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
come along and say hello.
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > Subject: The day Approaches
> >
> > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
fighting with their lawful king.
> > Paul
> >
> > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thank you, Joan.  Great for all of us who can't be there in person.

Cheers, Dorothea


________________________________
From: joanszechtman <u2nohoo@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2011 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches


 
I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

--- In , carole jenkins
<carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
part better
>
> From: HI hi.dung@...
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
> Â
> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
quibblers over the centuries.
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Annette Carson email@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > ÃÂ
> > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
come along and say hello.
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > Subject: The day Approaches
> >
> > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
fighting with their lawful king.
> > Paul
> >
> > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

"There is no creature loves me,
and if I die, no soul will pity me -"

(Richard III, V, iii, 201-2)


RIP Richard, and the others.
Cecilia


--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches, this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died fighting with their lawful king.
> Paul
>
>
> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
Regards, Annette


----- Original Message -----
From: joanszechtman
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches



I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

--- In , carole jenkins
<carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
part better
>
> From: HI hi.dung@...
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
> Â
> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
quibblers over the centuries.
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Annette Carson email@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
come along and say hello.
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > Subject: The day Approaches
> >
> > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
fighting with their lawful king.
> > Paul
> >
> > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Trolli delenda sunt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Carson
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches



Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: joanszechtman
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches

I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

--- In , carole jenkins
<carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
part better
>
> From: HI hi.dung@...
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
> Â
> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
quibblers over the centuries.
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Annette Carson email@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
come along and say hello.
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > Subject: The day Approaches
> >
> > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
fighting with their lawful king.
> > Paul
> >
> > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Annette:
 
I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get.  If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative.  However, I understand the demands on your time.
 
I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much.  I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
 
Thanks,
 
Margie

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches


 

Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: joanszechtman
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches

I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

--- In , carole jenkins
<carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
part better
>
> From: HI hi.dung@...
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
> Â
> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
quibblers over the centuries.
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Annette Carson email@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
come along and say hello.
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > Subject: The day Approaches
> >
> > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
fighting with their lawful king.
> > Paul
> >
> > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

I'd also like to see them if possible. I am on Facebook but don't think I have any of you on there, although if anyone feels like adding me they're welcome. Not a troll, I promise you, just a lurker. =)

----- Original Message -----
From: MD Deck <mdbuyingstuff@...>
Date: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To: "" <>

> Hi Annette:
>  
> I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a
> Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other
> Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get.  If it is
> convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be
> appreciative.  However, I understand the demands on your time.
>  
> I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much.  I find
> the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many
> I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Margie
>
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>    
>  
> Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too
> great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong
> setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have
> a moment.
>
> I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard
> and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle
> grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't
> seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a
> little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
> moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white
> roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos,
> just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joanszechtman
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment
> in 2006.
> I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard
> III in
> the 21st-century
> This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> Book Awards
> website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> ebooks at Smashwords
> <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> --- In , carole jenkins
> <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
> >
> > I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have
> felt all
> day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and
> acts the
> part better
> >
> > From: HI hi.dung@...
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological
> evidence, it
> seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre
> is and
> the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage
> and he
> could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> quibblers over the centuries.
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson
> judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Annette Carson email@
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed
> a tear
> for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> come along and say hello.
> > > Regards, Annette
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > > Subject: The day Approaches
> > >
> > > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> fighting with their lawful king.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>     
>
>
>
>

The photos I used in the video were taken a Sunday. The day before, I
went to Leicester and using the maps and some information that I
received from a fellow Ricardian (whose name escapes me at the moment),
I followed Richard's trail and took a bunch of photos. The maps and
photos can be found under Leicester Tour at the New England Chapter's
website <http://www.r3ne.org/> -- click on either the 15th-C or modern
map and then select the Map Key
<http://members.cox.net/r3ne/LeicesterKey_1.html> to see the photos and
other info. I took many of the photos, but not all. The photos are
attributed.

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
--- In , "Annette Carson"
<email@...> wrote:
>
> Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this
weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However,
I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
>
> I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and
thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from
a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh.
I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial
in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful
arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to
see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> Regards, Annette
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joanszechtman
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>
> I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in
2006.
> I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III
in
> the 21st-century
> This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> Book Awards
> website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> ebooks at Smashwords
> <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> --- In , carole jenkins
> carolejenkins57@ wrote:
> >
> > I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been
there
> for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt
all
> day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts
the
> part better
> >
> > From: HI hi.dung@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological
evidence, it
> seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is
and
> the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> quibblers over the centuries.
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson
> judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in
thought.
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Annette Carson email@
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a
tear
> for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?)
please
> come along and say hello.
> > > Regards, Annette
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > > Subject: The day Approaches
> > >
> > > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> fighting with their lawful king.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

THANK YOU!!
 
Enjoying reading and pictures and everything.  :)
 
Margie

From: joanszechtman <u2nohoo@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches


 

The photos I used in the video were taken a Sunday. The day before, I
went to Leicester and using the maps and some information that I
received from a fellow Ricardian (whose name escapes me at the moment),
I followed Richard's trail and took a bunch of photos. The maps and
photos can be found under Leicester Tour at the New England Chapter's
website <http://www.r3ne.org/> -- click on either the 15th-C or modern
map and then select the Map Key
<http://members.cox.net/r3ne/LeicesterKey_1.html> to see the photos and
other info. I took many of the photos, but not all. The photos are
attributed.

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
--- In , "Annette Carson"
<email@...> wrote:
>
> Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this
weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However,
I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
>
> I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and
thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from
a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh.
I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial
in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful
arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to
see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> Regards, Annette
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joanszechtman
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>
> I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in
2006.
> I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III
in
> the 21st-century
> This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> Book Awards
> website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> ebooks at Smashwords
> <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> --- In , carole jenkins
> carolejenkins57@ wrote:
> >
> > I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been
there
> for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt
all
> day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts
the
> part better
> >
> > From: HI hi.dung@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological
evidence, it
> seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is
and
> the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> quibblers over the centuries.
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson
> judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in
thought.
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Annette Carson email@
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a
tear
> for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?)
please
> come along and say hello.
> > > Regards, Annette
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > > Subject: The day Approaches
> > >
> > > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> fighting with their lawful king.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Angie - I've sent you a friend request this morning.

----- Original Message -----
From: Angie Telepenko
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



I'd also like to see them if possible. I am on Facebook but don't think I have any of you on there, although if anyone feels like adding me they're welcome. Not a troll, I promise you, just a lurker. =)

----- Original Message -----
From: MD Deck <mdbuyingstuff@...>
Date: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To: "" <>

> Hi Annette:
>
> I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a
> Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other
> Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is
> convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be
> appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.
>
> I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find
> the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many
> I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Margie
>
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>
>
> Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too
> great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong
> setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have
> a moment.
>
> I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard
> and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle
> grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't
> seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a
> little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
> moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white
> roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos,
> just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joanszechtman
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment
> in 2006.
> I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard
> III in
> the 21st-century
> This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> Book Awards
> website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> ebooks at Smashwords
> <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> --- In , carole jenkins
> <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
> >
> > I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have
> felt all
> day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and
> acts the
> part better
> >
> > From: HI hi.dung@...
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological
> evidence, it
> seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre
> is and
> the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage
> and he
> could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> quibblers over the centuries.
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson
> judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Annette Carson email@
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed
> a tear
> for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> come along and say hello.
> > > Regards, Annette
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > > Subject: The day Approaches
> > >
> > > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> fighting with their lawful king.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.
Regards, Annette
P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

----- Original Message -----
From: MD Deck
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



Hi Annette:

I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.

I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.

Thanks,

Margie

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches



Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: joanszechtman
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: The day Approaches

I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

Joan
---
author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
the 21st-century
This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
Book Awards
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

--- In , carole jenkins
<carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
part better
>
> From: HI hi.dung@...
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
> Â
> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
quibblers over the centuries.
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Annette Carson email@
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
come along and say hello.
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > Subject: The day Approaches
> >
> > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
fighting with their lawful king.
> > Paul
> >
> > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
:-)
Paul

On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

> Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.
> Regards, Annette
> P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MD Deck
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> Hi Annette:
>
> I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.
>
> I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Margie
>
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>
> Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
>
> I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joanszechtman
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
> I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
> the 21st-century
> This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> Book Awards
> website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> ebooks at Smashwords
> <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> --- In , carole jenkins
> <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
> day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
> part better
>>
>> From: HI hi.dung@...
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>>
>>
>> Â
>> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
> seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
> the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> quibblers over the centuries.
>>
>> --- In , Judy Thomson
> judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Annette Carson email@
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>>>
>>>
>>> Ã,Â
>>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
> for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> come along and say hello.
>>> Regards, Annette
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
>>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
>>> Subject: The day Approaches
>>>
>>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> this year Monday in the 22nd August.
>>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> fighting with their lawful king.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

They were mostly Welsh, look-you!


----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Trevor Bale
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
:-)
Paul

On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

> Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.
> Regards, Annette
> P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MD Deck
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> Hi Annette:
>
> I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.
>
> I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Margie
>
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>
> Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
>
> I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joanszechtman
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
> I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
> the 21st-century
> This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> Book Awards
> website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> ebooks at Smashwords
> <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> --- In , carole jenkins
> <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
> day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
> part better
>>
>> From: HI hi.dung@...
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>>
>>
>> Â
>> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
> seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
> the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> quibblers over the centuries.
>>
>> --- In , Judy Thomson
> judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Annette Carson email@
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>>>
>>>
>>> Ã,Â
>>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
> for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> come along and say hello.
>>> Regards, Annette
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
>>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
>>> Subject: The day Approaches
>>>
>>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> this year Monday in the 22nd August.
>>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> fighting with their lawful king.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thanks! You have some very nice pictures on there. Makes me jealous of all of you in Britain who are so close to that history, and more determined to go over there again.

----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:38 am
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:

> Hi Angie - I've sent you a friend request this morning.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Angie Telepenko
>   To:
>   Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:13 PM
>   Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>    
>   I'd also like to see them if possible. I am on Facebook
> but don't think I have any of you on there, although if anyone
> feels like adding me they're welcome. Not a troll, I promise
> you, just a lurker. =)
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: MD Deck <mdbuyingstuff@...>
>   Date: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:10 pm
>   Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>   To: ""
> <>
>   > Hi Annette:
>   > 
>   > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am
> not a
>   > Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one
> other
>   > Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I
> get.  If it is
>   > convenient for you to share them in some other way, I
> would be
>   > appreciative.  However, I understand the demands
> on your time.
>   > 
>   > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so
> much.  I find
>   > the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike
> so many
>   > I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
>   > 
>   > Thanks,
>   > 
>   > Margie
>   >
>   > From: Annette Carson <email@...>
>   > To:
>   > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
>   > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>   >
>   >
>   >    
>   > 
>   > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't
> too
>   > great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on
> the wrong
>   > setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page
> when I have
>   > a moment.
>   >
>   > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to
> Richard
>   > and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in
> the castle
>   > grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who
> haven't
>   > seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my
> page a
>   > little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral
> was very
>   > moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of
> white
>   > roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see
> the photos,
>   > just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
>   > Regards, Annette
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: joanszechtman
>   > To:
>   > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
>   > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>   >
>   > I was able to take some photos when I attended the
> reenactment
>   > in 2006.
>   > I made a video from selected photos and put the video
> on YouTube
>   > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>   >
>   > Joan
>   > ---
>   > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about
> Richard
>   > III in
>   > the 21st-century
>   > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next
> Generation Indie
>   > Book Awards
>   > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
>   > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
>   > ebooks at Smashwords
>   > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>   >
>   > --- In , carole jenkins
>   > <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I
> have been there
>   > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they
> must have
>   > felt all
>   > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did
> anyone note the
>   > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more
> confident and
>   > acts the
>   > part better
>   > >
>   > > From: HI hi.dung@...
>   > > To:
>   > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Â
>   > > I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a
> small shrine to
>   > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From
> archaeological
>   > evidence, it
>   > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from
> the church in
>   > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the
> exhibition centre
>   > is and
>   > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white
> roses, for his
>   > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless,
> it's the thought
>   > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his
> courage
>   > and he
>   > could be respected for that alone despite the many
> detractors and
>   > quibblers over the centuries.
>   > >
>   > > --- In , Judy Thomson
>   > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you
> there in thought.
>   > > >
>   > > > Judy
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > ________________________________
>   > > > From: Annette Carson email@
>   > > > To:
>   > > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
>   > > > Subject: Re: The day
> Approaches  > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > Ã,Â
>   > > > Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth
> this year (my
>   > first visit since coming home to live in England) and
> will shed
>   > a tear
>   > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing
> on Saturday
>   > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there
> (Paul?) please
>   > come along and say hello.
>   > > > Regards, Annette
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > From: Paul Trevor Bale
>   > > > To: RichardIIISociety forum
>   > > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
>   > > > Subject: The day Approaches
>   > > >
>   > > > Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian
> calendar approaches,
>   > this year Monday in the 22nd August.
>   > > > Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those
> who died
>   > fighting with their lawful king.
>   > > > Paul
>   > > >
>   > > > "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   
>   >     
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>

They'll change their minds once they read your book Annette.  Not that I (half
Welsh) think of Tudor as a real Welshman anyway, no real fire in his blood!




________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011 15:19:43
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

 
They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Trevor Bale
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you
say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David
Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
:-)
Paul

On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

> Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to
>emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to
>you attaching a selection of photos.
> Regards, Annette
> P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to
>sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history
>book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as
>'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to
>people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story,
>which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially
>lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MD Deck
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> Hi Annette:
>
> I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a
>twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as
>socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in
>some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on
>your time.
>
> I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach
>refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read
>about the period and Richard.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Margie
>
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
>
>
> Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend,
>as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on
>my Facebook page when I have a moment.
>
> I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I
>would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of
>angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an
>album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
>moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends
>not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls
>need not apply ....
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joanszechtman
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
> I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> Joan
> ---
> author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
> the 21st-century
> This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> Book Awards
> website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> ebooks at Smashwords
> <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> --- In , carole jenkins
> <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
> day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
> part better
>>
>> From: HI hi.dung@...
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>>
>>
>> Â
>> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
> seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
> the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> quibblers over the centuries.
>>
>> --- In , Judy Thomson
> judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Annette Carson email@
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>>>
>>>
>>> Ã,Â
>>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
> for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> come along and say hello.
>>> Regards, Annette
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
>>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
>>> Subject: The day Approaches
>>>
>>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> this year Monday in the 22nd August.
>>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> fighting with their lawful king.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
>
> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
> :-)
> Paul
>
> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:
>
> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.
> > Regards, Annette
> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MD Deck
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Annette:
> >
> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.
> >
> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Margie
> >
> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> >
> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
> >
> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: joanszechtman
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
> >
> > Joan
> > ---
> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
> > the 21st-century
> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> > Book Awards
> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> > ebooks at Smashwords
> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
> >
> > --- In , carole jenkins
> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
> > part better
> >>
> >> From: HI hi.dung@
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >>
> >>
> >> Â
> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> > quibblers over the centuries.
> >>
> >> --- In , Judy Thomson
> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >>>
> >>> Judy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Annette Carson email@
> >>> To:
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ã,Â
> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> > come along and say hello.
> >>> Regards, Annette
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> >>> Subject: The day Approaches
> >>>
> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> > fighting with their lawful king.
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their investment, I wonder?
Regards, Annette


----- Original Message -----
From: ricard1an
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
>
> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
> :-)
> Paul
>
> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:
>
> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.
> > Regards, Annette
> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MD Deck
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Annette:
> >
> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.
> >
> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Margie
> >
> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> >
> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
> >
> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: joanszechtman
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
> >
> > Joan
> > ---
> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
> > the 21st-century
> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> > Book Awards
> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> > ebooks at Smashwords
> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
> >
> > --- In , carole jenkins
> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
> > part better
> >>
> >> From: HI hi.dung@
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >>
> >>
> >> Â
> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> > quibblers over the centuries.
> >>
> >> --- In , Judy Thomson
> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >>>
> >>> Judy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Annette Carson email@
> >>> To:
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ã,Â
> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> > come along and say hello.
> >>> Regards, Annette
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> >>> Subject: The day Approaches
> >>>
> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> > fighting with their lawful king.
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much more back.  I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however the migraine from hell put paid to that.  Not too good with Facebook but will attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20







 









Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette



----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!



You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.



--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Well heritage IS immensely important and I can't begin to tell you how proud I
am of my Welsh heritage  but I still would rather break my ankle (which I
actually did a few months ago!)  than support Tudor.    I think the "look at me,
I'm Welsh!" rubbish soon died down once he'd got the throne.  God knows the
English "superiority" lingers to this day I' m afraid.  There may not be
anything as obvious as there was during the  Middle Ages or even the Welsh Knot
(which my grandparents experienced) but there are some (not all, of course)
English people who seem to think that they are superior to their Celtic
neighbours.     Most English people of course don't actually know very much
about the way Edward I and others treated their neighbours.

Liz


________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011 9:20:30
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

 
Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis
England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh
patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we
know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and
advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh
saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is
tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs
strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some
research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in
reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their
investment, I wonder?
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: ricard1an
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a
quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as
he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the
French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was
closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too.
Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your
book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched
factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.


--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...>
wrote:
>
> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you
>say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David
>Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
> :-)
> Paul
>
> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:
>
> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to
>emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to
>you attaching a selection of photos.
> > Regards, Annette
> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to
>sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history
>book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as
>'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to
>people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story,
>which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially
>lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MD Deck
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Annette:
> >
> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or
>a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as
>socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in
>some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on
>your time.
> >
> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach
>refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read
>about the period and Richard.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Margie
> >
> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> >
> >
> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this
>weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a
>few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
> >
> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I
>would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of
>angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an
>album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
>moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends
>not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls
>need not apply ....
> > Regards, Annette
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: joanszechtman
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >
> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
> >
> > Joan
> > ---
> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
> > the 21st-century
> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> > Book Awards
> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> > ebooks at Smashwords
> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
> >
> > --- In , carole jenkins
> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
> > part better
> >>
> >> From: HI hi.dung@
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >>
> >>
> >> Â
> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> > quibblers over the centuries.
> >>
> >> --- In , Judy Thomson
> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> >>>
> >>> Judy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Annette Carson email@
> >>> To:
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ã,Â
> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> > come along and say hello.
> >>> Regards, Annette
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> >>> Subject: The day Approaches
> >>>
> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> > fighting with their lawful king.
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>

From what I remember from the history that we did at school Mr Tudor did very little for the Welsh. Richard was Lord of Glamorgan and I believe he was well thought of in Wales. He and Anne are commemorated in a window at Cardiff Castle. He also had connections to the church in Cowbridge and Anne Neville gave money to the church in Llanblethian, which is near to Cowbridge. I assume the Vaughans or Fychans did well out of the Tudors but I don't think many other people did. It got progressively worse with the Welsh Not as Liz pointed out. My Grandmother was a victim of that too.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
>
> Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their investment, I wonder?
> Regards, Annette
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ricard1an
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!
>
> You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.
>
> --- In , "Annette Carson" <email@> wrote:
> >
> > They were mostly Welsh, look-you!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
> >
> >
> >
> > Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
> > :-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:
> >
> > > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.
> > > Regards, Annette
> > > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: MD Deck
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Annette:
> > >
> > > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.
> > >
> > > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Margie
> > >
> > > From: Annette Carson <email@>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
> > >
> > > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
> > > Regards, Annette
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: joanszechtman
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >
> > > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
> > > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
> > >
> > > Joan
> > > ---
> > > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
> > > the 21st-century
> > > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
> > > Book Awards
> > > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
> > > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
> > > ebooks at Smashwords
> > > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
> > >
> > > --- In , carole jenkins
> > > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
> > > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
> > > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
> > > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
> > > part better
> > >>
> > >> From: HI hi.dung@
> > >> To:
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Â
> > >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
> > > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
> > > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
> > > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
> > > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
> > > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
> > > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
> > > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
> > > quibblers over the centuries.
> > >>
> > >> --- In , Judy Thomson
> > > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
> > >>>
> > >>> Judy
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: Annette Carson email@
> > >>> To:
> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Ã,Â
> > >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
> > > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
> > > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
> > > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
> > > come along and say hello.
> > >>> Regards, Annette
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
> > >>> Subject: The day Approaches
> > >>>
> > >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
> > > this year Monday in the 22nd August.
> > >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
> > > fighting with their lawful king.
> > >>> Paul
> > >>>
> > >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Marion, just search for Annette Carson and click the button that says "+1 Add Friend". In case there's more than one with my name, I am wearing a purple shirt.

I've been reading up a little on the death of Northumberland. Attended by his household servants and retainers, he was murdered by a mob at Topcliffe near Thirsk on 28 April 1489 while confronting those who had rebelled against his new boss's taxes. The extraordinary thing (according to David Grummitt) was that his men allegedly just looked on instead of fulfilling their duty to defend him. This was confirmed in a poem by Henry Tudor's poet laureate, John Skelton, who named their behaviour as treason. Later it was reported in the Great Chronicle. Grummitt, who writes (like me) that Henry Tudor ushered in an age of political deceit and expediency, comments that the chronicler appears initially 'more at ease with the new language of political morality and portrayed the event as the ironic deserts of a man who had abandoned his own lord, Richard III, at the battle of Bosworth four years earlier. Northumberland was slain by the commons "owyng unto hym dedly malyce ffor the dysapoyntyng of kyng Rychard at Bosworth ffeld", a sentiment presumably shared by his "howshold meyny".'
Regards, Annette



----- Original Message -----
From: marion cheatham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20



Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

I think the Welsh often support Tudor simply because he is perceived as Welsh. The House of York was of course descended from Llwelwyn Fawr, but unlike the Mortimers they didn't really make any big deal out of it. Tudor was descended from Llwelwyn's steward.

It's a bit odd that there's much sympathy for the House of Lancaster in that quarter given what Henry IV and his son did to the Welsh during the Glyndwr revolt, but Wales was a bit of a Lancastrian hotbed even at the time, despite copious anti-Welsh legislation passed by early Lancastrian parliaments.

As to what the Tudors did for Wales - well, Rhys ap Thomas was given a lot of power by Henry VII and was a real tyrant, but I suppose as he was Welsh this gets discounted.(Native tyrants can be as harsh as foreign ones, but often get a pass.) A few families - like the Cecils - did well for themselves. And Henry VIII did pass the Act of Union which in effect gave the Welsh the same rights as the English, though I doubt this was the primary object Henry had in mind.(Indeed, legally speaking, he abolished Wales and made it part of England, scrapping what elements of Welsh administration and law that had survived. So bit of a mixed bag from a Welsh point of view I should have thought.)

Brian W

--- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@...> wrote:
>
> From what I remember from the history that we did at school Mr Tudor did very little for the Welsh. Richard was Lord of Glamorgan and I believe he was well thought of in Wales. He and Anne are commemorated in a window at Cardiff Castle. He also had connections to the church in Cowbridge and Anne Neville gave money to the church in Llanblethian, which is near to Cowbridge. I assume the Vaughans or Fychans did well out of the Tudors but I don't think many other people did. It got progressively worse with the Welsh Not as Liz pointed out. My Grandmother was a victim of that too.
>
>

"Tudor was descended from Llwelwyn's steward."

Brian, I hate to sound like a snob, but that says it all! 

As for giving the Welsh "equal rights"  frankly if you were a Welsh woman that
is the last thing you would want since they actually had a far better deal than
English woman. 






________________________________
From: Brian <wainwright.brian@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 9:39:18
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

 
I think the Welsh often support Tudor simply because he is perceived as Welsh.
The House of York was of course descended from Llwelwyn Fawr, but unlike the
Mortimers they didn't really make any big deal out of it. Tudor was descended
from Llwelwyn's steward.

It's a bit odd that there's much sympathy for the House of Lancaster in that
quarter given what Henry IV and his son did to the Welsh during the Glyndwr
revolt, but Wales was a bit of a Lancastrian hotbed even at the time, despite
copious anti-Welsh legislation passed by early Lancastrian parliaments.

As to what the Tudors did for Wales - well, Rhys ap Thomas was given a lot of
power by Henry VII and was a real tyrant, but I suppose as he was Welsh this
gets discounted.(Native tyrants can be as harsh as foreign ones, but often get a
pass.) A few families - like the Cecils - did well for themselves. And Henry
VIII did pass the Act of Union which in effect gave the Welsh the same rights as
the English, though I doubt this was the primary object Henry had in
mind.(Indeed, legally speaking, he abolished Wales and made it part of England,
scrapping what elements of Welsh administration and law that had survived. So
bit of a mixed bag from a Welsh point of view I should have thought.)

Brian W

--- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@...>
wrote:
>
> From what I remember from the history that we did at school Mr Tudor did very
>little for the Welsh. Richard was Lord of Glamorgan and I believe he was well
>thought of in Wales. He and Anne are commemorated in a window at Cardiff Castle.
>He also had connections to the church in Cowbridge and Anne Neville gave money
>to the church in Llanblethian, which is near to Cowbridge. I assume the Vaughans
>or Fychans did well out of the Tudors but I don't think many other people did.
>It got progressively worse with the Welsh Not as Liz pointed out. My Grandmother
>was a victim of that too.
>
>
>

Annette,

there's  a few people on Facebook with your name (but not as many as with mine
which is Elizabeth Williams!)

Liz


________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 9:37:16
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

 
Marion, just search for Annette Carson and click the button that says "+1 Add
Friend". In case there's more than one with my name, I am wearing a purple
shirt.

I've been reading up a little on the death of Northumberland. Attended by his
household servants and retainers, he was murdered by a mob at Topcliffe near
Thirsk on 28 April 1489 while confronting those who had rebelled against his new
boss's taxes. The extraordinary thing (according to David Grummitt) was that his
men allegedly just looked on instead of fulfilling their duty to defend him.
This was confirmed in a poem by Henry Tudor's poet laureate, John Skelton, who
named their behaviour as treason. Later it was reported in the Great Chronicle.
Grummitt, who writes (like me) that Henry Tudor ushered in an age of political
deceit and expediency, comments that the chronicler appears initially 'more at
ease with the new language of political morality and portrayed the event as the
ironic deserts of a man who had abandoned his own lord, Richard III, at the
battle of Bosworth four years earlier. Northumberland was slain by the commons
"owyng unto hym dedly malyce ffor the dysapoyntyng of kyng Rychard at Bosworth
ffeld", a sentiment presumably shared by his "howshold meyny".'
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: marion cheatham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much
more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under
Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of
anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off
any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however
the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will
attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20

Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis
England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh
patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we
know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and
advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh
saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is
tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs
strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some
research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in
reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their
investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a
quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as
he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the
French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was
closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too.
Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your
book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched
factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.


--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...>
wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you
>say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David
>Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to
>emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to
>you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to
>sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history
>book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as
>'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to
>people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story,
>which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially
>lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or
>a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as
>socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in
>some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on
>your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach
>refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read
>about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this
>weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a
>few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I
>would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of
>angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an
>album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
>moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends
>not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls
>need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Hello Liz - You'll recognise my photo from the purple shirt, pearl stud earrings and grey-blonde hair - I'm sitting on a park bench with grass behind me and narcissus flowers next to me. Does this work for you now?

----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue





Annette,

there's a few people on Facebook with your name (but not as many as with mine
which is Elizabeth Williams!)

Liz

________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 9:37:16
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue


Marion, just search for Annette Carson and click the button that says "+1 Add
Friend". In case there's more than one with my name, I am wearing a purple
shirt.

I've been reading up a little on the death of Northumberland. Attended by his
household servants and retainers, he was murdered by a mob at Topcliffe near
Thirsk on 28 April 1489 while confronting those who had rebelled against his new
boss's taxes. The extraordinary thing (according to David Grummitt) was that his
men allegedly just looked on instead of fulfilling their duty to defend him.
This was confirmed in a poem by Henry Tudor's poet laureate, John Skelton, who
named their behaviour as treason. Later it was reported in the Great Chronicle.
Grummitt, who writes (like me) that Henry Tudor ushered in an age of political
deceit and expediency, comments that the chronicler appears initially 'more at
ease with the new language of political morality and portrayed the event as the
ironic deserts of a man who had abandoned his own lord, Richard III, at the
battle of Bosworth four years earlier. Northumberland was slain by the commons
"owyng unto hym dedly malyce ffor the dysapoyntyng of kyng Rychard at Bosworth
ffeld", a sentiment presumably shared by his "howshold meyny".'
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: marion cheatham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much
more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under
Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of
anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off
any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however
the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will
attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20

Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis
England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh
patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we
know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and
advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh
saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is
tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs
strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some
research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in
reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their
investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a
quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as
he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the
French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was
closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too.
Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your
book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched
factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...>
wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you
>say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David
>Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to
>emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to
>you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to
>sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history
>book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as
>'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to
>people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story,
>which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially
>lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or
>a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as
>socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in
>some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on
>your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach
>refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read
>about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this
>weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a
>few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I
>would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of
>angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an
>album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
>moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends
>not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls
>need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Found you!




________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 20:07:54
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

 
Hello Liz - You'll recognise my photo from the purple shirt, pearl stud earrings
and grey-blonde hair - I'm sitting on a park bench with grass behind me and
narcissus flowers next to me. Does this work for you now?

----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette,

there's a few people on Facebook with your name (but not as many as with mine
which is Elizabeth Williams!)

Liz

________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 9:37:16
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Marion, just search for Annette Carson and click the button that says "+1 Add
Friend". In case there's more than one with my name, I am wearing a purple
shirt.

I've been reading up a little on the death of Northumberland. Attended by his
household servants and retainers, he was murdered by a mob at Topcliffe near
Thirsk on 28 April 1489 while confronting those who had rebelled against his new

boss's taxes. The extraordinary thing (according to David Grummitt) was that his

men allegedly just looked on instead of fulfilling their duty to defend him.
This was confirmed in a poem by Henry Tudor's poet laureate, John Skelton, who
named their behaviour as treason. Later it was reported in the Great Chronicle.
Grummitt, who writes (like me) that Henry Tudor ushered in an age of political
deceit and expediency, comments that the chronicler appears initially 'more at
ease with the new language of political morality and portrayed the event as the
ironic deserts of a man who had abandoned his own lord, Richard III, at the
battle of Bosworth four years earlier. Northumberland was slain by the commons
"owyng unto hym dedly malyce ffor the dysapoyntyng of kyng Rychard at Bosworth
ffeld", a sentiment presumably shared by his "howshold meyny".'
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: marion cheatham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much

more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under
Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of
anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off
any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however

the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will
attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20

Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis
England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh
patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we

know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and
advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh

saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is
tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs
strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some
research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in
reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their
investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a
quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as
he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the
French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was

closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too.
Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your
book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched
factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...>
wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you
>
>say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David
>Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to
>emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to
>you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to

>sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history

>book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as
>'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to
>people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story,
>
>which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially
>lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or

>a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as
>socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in

>some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on
>your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach
>refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read
>about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this
>weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a
>
>few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I
>would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of
>angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an
>album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
>
>moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends
>not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls
>need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Great. Haven't seen a friend application from you yet, but I did accidentally delete a request from one Florence Dove, a name that doesn't ring a bell with me, but then I wondered whether she's a member of this group who wants to see the photos - ? If so, please try again, Florence!

----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



Found you!

________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 20:07:54
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue


Hello Liz - You'll recognise my photo from the purple shirt, pearl stud earrings
and grey-blonde hair - I'm sitting on a park bench with grass behind me and
narcissus flowers next to me. Does this work for you now?

----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette,

there's a few people on Facebook with your name (but not as many as with mine
which is Elizabeth Williams!)

Liz

________________________________
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 9:37:16
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Marion, just search for Annette Carson and click the button that says "+1 Add
Friend". In case there's more than one with my name, I am wearing a purple
shirt.

I've been reading up a little on the death of Northumberland. Attended by his
household servants and retainers, he was murdered by a mob at Topcliffe near
Thirsk on 28 April 1489 while confronting those who had rebelled against his new

boss's taxes. The extraordinary thing (according to David Grummitt) was that his

men allegedly just looked on instead of fulfilling their duty to defend him.
This was confirmed in a poem by Henry Tudor's poet laureate, John Skelton, who
named their behaviour as treason. Later it was reported in the Great Chronicle.
Grummitt, who writes (like me) that Henry Tudor ushered in an age of political
deceit and expediency, comments that the chronicler appears initially 'more at
ease with the new language of political morality and portrayed the event as the
ironic deserts of a man who had abandoned his own lord, Richard III, at the
battle of Bosworth four years earlier. Northumberland was slain by the commons
"owyng unto hym dedly malyce ffor the dysapoyntyng of kyng Rychard at Bosworth
ffeld", a sentiment presumably shared by his "howshold meyny".'
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: marion cheatham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much

more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under
Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of
anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off
any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however

the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will
attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20

Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis
England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh
patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we

know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and
advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh

saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is
tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs
strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some
research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in
reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their
investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a
quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as
he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the
French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was

closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too.
Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your
book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched
factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...>
wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you
>
>say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David
>Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to
>emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to
>you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to

>sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history

>book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as
>'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to
>people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story,
>
>which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially
>lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or

>a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as
>socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in

>some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on
>your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach
>refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read
>about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this
>weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a
>
>few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I
>would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of
>angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an
>album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very
>
>moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends
>not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls
>need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Marion, sorry we didn't meet this time, but
----- Original Message -----
From: marion cheatham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20



Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Marion, sorry we didn't meet at Bosworth this time, but hope there will be future opportunities. Reading your post reminded me that there were a few late amendments to my article about Sir Henry Wyatt, including a re-think by Sir Roy Strong about the dating of Wyatt paintings, and you are probably sitting with an earlier version. However, the full up-to-date article is about to appear in the Ricardian Register, so in case you spot any differences, the one in the Register is correct.

Thanks to Brian and others for valuable comments about how the Welsh fared under the Tudors. Any more? I'm still looking for clues!
Regards, Annette


----- Original Message -----
From: marion cheatham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue



If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off any better.

Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will attempt to find you and befriend you.

Marion

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:

From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
To:
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20



Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their investment, I wonder?

Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----

From: ricard1an

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!

You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:

>

> They were mostly Welsh, look-you!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

>

>

>

> Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!

> :-)

> Paul

>

> On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:

>

> > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.

> > Regards, Annette

> > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: MD Deck

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM

> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Annette:

> >

> > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.

> >

> > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Margie

> >

> > From: Annette Carson <email@...>

> > To:

> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> >

> >

> > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.

> >

> > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....

> > Regards, Annette

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: joanszechtman

> > To:

> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >

> > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.

> > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .

> >

> > Joan

> > ---

> > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in

> > the 21st-century

> > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie

> > Book Awards

> > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog

> > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>

> > ebooks at Smashwords

> > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

> >

> > --- In , carole jenkins

> > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:

> >>

> >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there

> > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all

> > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the

> > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the

> > part better

> >>

> >> From: HI hi.dung@

> >> To:

> >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM

> >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>

> >>

> >> Â

> >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to

> > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it

> > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in

> > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and

> > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his

> > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought

> > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he

> > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and

> > quibblers over the centuries.

> >>

> >> --- In , Judy Thomson

> > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.

> >>>

> >>> Judy

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ________________________________

> >>> From: Annette Carson email@

> >>> To:

> >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM

> >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Ã,Â

> >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my

> > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear

> > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday

> > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please

> > come along and say hello.

> >>> Regards, Annette

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale

> >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum

> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM

> >>> Subject: The day Approaches

> >>>

> >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,

> > this year Monday in the 22nd August.

> >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died

> > fighting with their lawful king.

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"

> >>>

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Hi Annette,

Yes, I'm Florence Dove and I'd love to see the photos. (I usually lurk
and learn on this list, which I enjoy enormously.) I'll send along
another friend request.

Cheers, Flo




On Aug 26, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Annette Carson wrote:

> Great. Haven't seen a friend application from you yet, but I did
> accidentally delete a request from one Florence Dove, a name that
> doesn't ring a bell with me, but then I wondered whether she's a
> member of this group who wants to see the photos - ? If so, please
> try again, Florence!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: liz williams
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> Found you!
>
> ________________________________
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 20:07:54
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> Hello Liz - You'll recognise my photo from the purple shirt, pearl
> stud earrings
> and grey-blonde hair - I'm sitting on a park bench with grass behind
> me and
> narcissus flowers next to me. Does this work for you now?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: liz williams
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> Annette,
>
> there's a few people on Facebook with your name (but not as many as
> with mine
> which is Elizabeth Williams!)
>
> Liz
>
> ________________________________
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 9:37:16
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> Marion, just search for Annette Carson and click the button that
> says "+1 Add
> Friend". In case there's more than one with my name, I am wearing a
> purple
> shirt.
>
> I've been reading up a little on the death of Northumberland.
> Attended by his
> household servants and retainers, he was murdered by a mob at
> Topcliffe near
> Thirsk on 28 April 1489 while confronting those who had rebelled
> against his new
>
> boss's taxes. The extraordinary thing (according to David Grummitt)
> was that his
>
> men allegedly just looked on instead of fulfilling their duty to
> defend him.
> This was confirmed in a poem by Henry Tudor's poet laureate, John
> Skelton, who
> named their behaviour as treason. Later it was reported in the Great
> Chronicle.
> Grummitt, who writes (like me) that Henry Tudor ushered in an age of
> political
> deceit and expediency, comments that the chronicler appears
> initially 'more at
> ease with the new language of political morality and portrayed the
> event as the
> ironic deserts of a man who had abandoned his own lord, Richard III,
> at the
> battle of Bosworth four years earlier. Northumberland was slain by
> the commons
> "owyng unto hym dedly malyce ffor the dysapoyntyng of kyng Rychard
> at Bosworth
> ffeld", a sentiment presumably shared by his "howshold meyny".'
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: marion cheatham
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without
> wanting much
>
> more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they
> fared under
> Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their
> treatment of
> anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh
> came off
> any better.
>
> Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet
> you, however
>
> the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook
> but will
> attempt to find you and befriend you.
>
> Marion
>
> --- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...>
> wrote:
>
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
> To:
> Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20
>
> Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal
> vis-ý-vis
> England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his
> Welsh
> patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant
> Richard (as we
>
> know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and
> advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the
> downtrodden Welsh
>
> saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their
> heritage is
> tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness
> still runs
> strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to
> fit in some
> research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated
> the Welsh in
> reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on
> their
> investment, I wonder?
>
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ricard1an
>
> To:
>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he
> was only a
> quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh.
> Incidentally, as
> he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any
> claim to the
> French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I
> suppose he was
>
> closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI
> helped him!!
>
> You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been
> there too.
> Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing
> about your
> book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well
> researched
> factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could
> mention.
>
> --- In , "Annette Carson"
> <email@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > They were mostly Welsh, look-you!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
>
> > To:
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
>
> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am
> amused when you
> >
> >say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were
> any, David
> >Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
>
> > :-)
>
> > Paul
>
> >
>
> > On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly
> to
> >emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will
> happily reply to
> >you attaching a selection of photos.
>
> > > Regards, Annette
>
> > > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was
> thrilled to
>
> >sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-
> fiction history
>
> >book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him
> as
> >'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies
> also to
> >people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side
> of the story,
> >
> >which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy
> officially
> >lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
>
> > >
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > From: MD Deck
>
> > > To:
>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
>
> > > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi Annette:
>
> > >
>
> > > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a
> Facebook-er or
>
> >a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as
> >socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to
> share them in
>
> >some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the
> demands on
> >your time.
>
> > >
>
> > > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find
> the approach
> >refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted
> to read
> >about the period and Richard.
>
> > >
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > >
>
> > > Margie
>
> > >
>
> > > From: Annette Carson <email@...>
>
> > > To:
>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
>
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too
> great this
> >weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting!
> However, I'll put a
> >
> >few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
>
> > >
>
> > > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard
> and thought I
> >would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a
> variety of
> >angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put
> those in an
> >album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the
> cathedral was very
> >
> >moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses.
> Any friends
> >not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me
> directly. Trolls
> >need not apply ....
>
> > > Regards, Annette
>
> > >
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > From: joanszechtman
>
> > > To:
>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
>
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> > >
>
> > > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment
> in 2006.
>
> > > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
>
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> > >
>
> > > Joan
>
> > > ---
>
> > > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard
> III in
>
> > > the 21st-century
>
> > > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation
> Indie
>
> > > Book Awards
>
> > > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
>
> > > <http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/>
>
> > > ebooks at Smashwords
>
> > > <http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In , carole jenkins
>
> > > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:
>
> > >>
>
> > >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been
> there
>
> > > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have
> felt all
>
> > > day. rest in peace, king Richard.ý By the way,did anyone note the
>
> > > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and
> acts the
>
> > > part better
>
> > >>
>
> > >> From: HI hi.dung@
>
> > >> To:
>
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
>
> > >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> > >>
>
> > >>
>
> > >> ý
>
> > >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
>
> > > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological
> evidence, it
>
> > > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church
> in
>
> > > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre
> is and
>
> > > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for
> his
>
> > > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the
> thought
>
> > > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage
> and he
>
> > > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
>
> > > quibblers over the centuries.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> --- In , Judy Thomson
>
> > > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in
> thought.
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> Judy
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> ________________________________
>
> > >>> From: Annette Carson email@
>
> > >>> To:
>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
>
> > >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> ý,ý
>
> > >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
>
> > > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed
> a tear
>
> > > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
>
> > > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?)
> please
>
> > > come along and say hello.
>
> > >>> Regards, Annette
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
>
> > >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
>
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
>
> > >>> Subject: The day Approaches
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
>
> > > this year Monday in the 22nd August.
>
> > >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
>
> > > fighting with their lawful king.
>
> > >>> Paul
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> "Richard Liveth Yet!"
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
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> > >
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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I've read your book which I enjoyed. Send photos if you can.

Richard III is very popular in Thailand.

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--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
>
> Marion, sorry we didn't meet this time, but
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: marion cheatham
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
>
>
> If what I have read of the Tudors, they never gave anything without wanting much more back. I have recently read a book on the Norfolks and how they fared under Tudor rule and I am half way through the White Rose and their treatment of anyone with Yorkist blood was appalling, so would doubt if the Welsh came off any better.
>
> Wanted to go to Bosworth Sunday, had been before but wanted to meet you, however the migraine from hell put paid to that. Not too good with Facebook but will attempt to find you and befriend you.
>
> Marion
>
> --- On Wed, 24/8/11, Annette Carson <email@...> wrote:
>
> From: Annette Carson <email@...>
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
> To:
> Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 9:20
>
>
>
> Ah, yes, but you have to admit that the Welsh had a very bad deal vis-à-vis England in the 15th century and when Henry Tudor arrived with his Welsh patronymic and his Welsh flag, spreading stories about the tyrant Richard (as we know from the bard Dafydd Llwyd), and spinning tales about rewards and advancement for his Welsh allies, it's not surprising that the downtrodden Welsh saw him as their new great hero. I have Welsh friends to whom their heritage is tremendously important, and this sentiment about Henry's Welshness still runs strongly today. What I'd really like to know - and I am trying to fit in some research to find out - is how Henry (and his descendants) treated the Welsh in reality during the reigns of the Tudors. Did they see a return on their investment, I wonder?
>
> Regards, Annette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ricard1an
>
> To:
>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:04 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> Annette, I'm Welsh and I'm definitely not a Tudor lover! Anyway he was only a quarter Welsh and he had as much French blood as he had Welsh. Incidentally, as he was descended from Catherine of Valois would he have had any claim to the French Throne? As he had no claim to the English Throne at all, I suppose he was closer to the French Throne by blood. Maybe that's why Louis XI helped him!!
>
> You sound as if you had a good weekend. I wish I could have been there too. Hopefully your book will convert a few more to the cause. The thing about your book is that it is very readable and is absolutely based on well researched factual evidence, unlike some other people's books that I could mention.
>
> --- In , "Annette Carson" <email@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > They were mostly Welsh, look-you!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
>
> > To:
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:12 PM
>
> > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Congratulations on your efforts and sales Annette. However I am amused when you say you sold to "Tudor supporters" as I didn't think there were any, David Starkey and Alison Weir apart that is!
>
> > :-)
>
> > Paul
>
> >
>
> > On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:23, Annette Carson wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Margie - All you need to do is send me an email message directly to emailATannettecarson.plus.com, substituting @ for AT. I will happily reply to you attaching a selection of photos.
>
> > > Regards, Annette
>
> > > P.S. Thanks for your kind words about "The Maligned King". I was thrilled to sign/sell 45 copies at Bosworth this weekend, not bad for a non-fiction history book. Mostly to people already sympathetic to Richard or seeing him as 'misunderstood' - a popular way of putting it - but several copies also to people who were Tudor supporters and wanted to read the other side of the story, which is very heartening I think. And there is now a signed copy officially lodged with the Leicestershire County Council!
>
> > >
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > From: MD Deck
>
> > > To:
>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:10 PM
>
> > > Subject: Re: Photos of Statue
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi Annette:
>
> > >
>
> > > I would very much like to see the photos. However, I am not a Facebook-er or a twitter-er (twit?); this group and one other Yahoo group are as socially-media-connected as I get. If it is convenient for you to share them in some other way, I would be appreciative. However, I understand the demands on your time.
>
> > >
>
> > > I am 1/2 way through your book and am learning so much. I find the approach refreshing and remarkably readable--unlike so many I have attempted to read about the period and Richard.
>
> > >
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > >
>
> > > Margie
>
> > >
>
> > > From: Annette Carson <email@>
>
> > > To:
>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:36 PM
>
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Great, thanks Joan, that's wonderful. My photos weren't too great this weekend, as I mistakenly had my camera on the wrong setting! However, I'll put a few on my Facebook page when I have a moment.
>
> > >
>
> > > I was in Leicester this morning paying my respects to Richard and thought I would take some snaps of the statue in the castle grounds from a variety of angles, for those friends who haven't seen it in the flesh. I put those in an album on my page a little while ago. Also the memorial in the cathedral was very moving, decorated with two beautiful arrangements of white roses. Any friends not on Facebook who'd like to see the photos, just contact me directly. Trolls need not apply ....
>
> > > Regards, Annette
>
> > >
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > From: joanszechtman
>
> > > To:
>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:48 PM
>
> > > Subject: Re: The day Approaches
>
> > >
>
> > > I was able to take some photos when I attended the reenactment in 2006.
>
> > > I made a video from selected photos and put the video on YouTube
>
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5nb1WbzHk> .
>
> > >
>
> > > Joan
>
> > > ---
>
> > > author of This Time and Loyalty Binds Me, novels about Richard III in
>
> > > the 21st-century
>
> > > This Time was General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie
>
> > > Book Awards
>
> > > website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
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> > > --- In , carole jenkins
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> > > <carolejenkins57@> wrote:
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> > >> I couldn't be there this year much to my sorrow as I have been there
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> > > for years.I've thought about thesoldiers and how they must have felt all
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> > > day. rest in peace, king Richard. By the way,did anyone note the
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> > > Richard 111 look alike? Each year he seems more confident and acts the
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> > >> From: HI hi.dung@
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> > >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:32 PM
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> > >> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
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> > >> I've attended the Bosworth anniversary. There's a small shrine to
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> > > Richard in the church at Sutton Cheney. From archaeological evidence, it
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> > > seems apparent that Richard's camp was just over from the church in
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> > > Dickon's Nook and not on Ambion Hill where the exhibition centre is and
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> > > the marker, usually shrouded with a bouquet of white roses, for his
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> > > place of death is out by a good mile. Nevertheless, it's the thought
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> > > that counts. Even Richard's enemies never doubted his courage and he
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> > > could be respected for that alone despite the many detractors and
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> > >> --- In , Judy Thomson
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> > > judygerard.thomson@ wrote:
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> > >>> Thanks, Annette. Good to know. I'll be with you there in thought.
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> > >>> Judy
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> > >>> ________________________________
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> > >>> From: Annette Carson email@
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> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:09 AM
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> > >>> Subject: Re: The day Approaches
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> > >>> Yes, a sad day for us all. I shall be at Bosworth this year (my
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> > > first visit since coming home to live in England) and will shed a tear
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> > > for all who died. I'll also be doing some book signing on Saturday
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> > > afternoon and Sunday morning, so anyone who'll be there (Paul?) please
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> > >>> Regards, Annette
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> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
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> > >>> From: Paul Trevor Bale
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> > >>> To: RichardIIISociety forum
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> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:18 PM
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> > >>> Subject: The day Approaches
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> > >>> Once again the saddest day in the Ricardian calendar approaches,
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> > > this year Monday in the 22nd August.
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> > >>> Let nobody forget what happened, and remember those who died
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