R3 - The musical

R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 16:33:35
fayreroze
here's my latest off the wall thought.

a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are.

at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market waiting to be tapped into.

i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.

anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work. richard's story would make a great opera.

roslyn

Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 19:39:31
david rayner
I have a hunch it'd make a great musical comedy.
 
"You are my brother and I love you, but I love the Crown better".

Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 20:00:35
Judy Thomson
Years ago, I read that Anthony Newley wrote one. No idea if this is true. But one good point of departure might be adapting Richard and Anne by Maxwell Anderson....

Anyone know Sondheim?

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: fayreroze <fayreroze@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:33 AM
Subject: R3 - The musical


 
here's my latest off the wall thought.

a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are.

at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market waiting to be tapped into.

i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.

anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work. richard's story would make a great opera.

roslyn




Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 22:16:47
Dorothea Preis
I think you might be thinking of "A Knight's Tale" with Heath Ledger.  I love the movie, it's really good fun.  Completely anachronistic, but it is meant tongue in cheek and for me it definitely works - and I always liked Heath Ledger in his 'fun' movies like for instance "Two Hands".

I think your idea about something similar about Richard, being portrayed positively in a humorous way, might very well work and might serve to counteract the Shakespearean baddie.

Cheers, Dorothea



________________________________
From: fayreroze <fayreroze@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 3:33 AM
Subject: R3 - The musical


 
here's my latest off the wall thought.

a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are.

at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market waiting to be tapped into.

i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.

anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work. richard's story would make a great opera.

roslyn




Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 22:28:50
fayre rose
i can't carry a tune if it were in a bucket. i did miss a couple very important words though.
 
i wrote
...on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are...
 
it should have read.... how wealthy some the *music industry* entertainers...are.
 
i don't know paul's script, but i do find elizabethan era language/writings to be fairly lyrical already.
i don't know robert's script either, but robert's might be the more easily adapted to a musical. robert also has some musical background.
 
why not promote our newer r3 talent? give the "new kid" a break.
 
anyhow, some of these wealthy music industry types, might be interested in funding the development and production of a richard iii musical/opera. imagine the draw it could have as a live performance or even a movie with several big names/stars playing richard and his court. justin beiber as edward V, etc.
 
again, i'm not so much into music..or at least pop music..but i do recall enjoying Tommy, a rock opera.
 
richard's true story can be as dynamic if set to music that a younger audience would pick up on. i know many of Tommy's songs are now part of our modern pop culture. 
 
wouldn't it be great to see r3 at the oscars.
 
roslyn
 


--- On Thu, 2/2/12, Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:


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Years ago, I read that Anthony Newley wrote one. No idea if this is true. But one good point of departure might be adapting Richard and Anne by Maxwell Anderson....

Anyone know Sondheim?

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie

________________________________
From: fayreroze <fayreroze@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:33 AM
Subject: R3 - The musical


 
here's my latest off the wall thought.

a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are.

at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market waiting to be tapped into.

i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.

anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work. richard's story would make a great opera.

roslyn










Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 22:39:23
fayre rose
yes, that is the movie i'm thinking of.
i don't even think you would need to go into humour.
 
the trend seems to be for "medieval" era drama or fantasy/drama.
tudors, borgias, game of thrones, arrgh..the one where stephen and matilda are battling for the throne and there is an appentice stone cutter. there are more of these types of movies being released..season of the witch.

r3 - the musical just cashes in on this trend..but with music...and "now for something completely different". if written by a ricardian..it is infotainment..it helps educate while entertaining. if the songs and tunes are catchy..you then hit a huge audience.
 
think of the recent success of the movie, chicago.
 
what is required is a backer from the music industry, with connections to the "big stars".
 
shakespeare..eat your heart out..:-))
 
roslyn
--- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...> wrote:


From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
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I think you might be thinking of "A Knight's Tale" with Heath Ledger.  I love the movie, it's really good fun.  Completely anachronistic, but it is meant tongue in cheek and for me it definitely works - and I always liked Heath Ledger in his 'fun' movies like for instance "Two Hands".

I think your idea about something similar about Richard, being portrayed positively in a humorous way, might very well work and might serve to counteract the Shakespearean baddie.

Cheers, Dorothea

________________________________
From: fayreroze <fayreroze@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 3:33 AM
Subject: R3 - The musical


 
here's my latest off the wall thought.

a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are.

at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market waiting to be tapped into.

i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.

anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work. richard's story would make a great opera.

roslyn










Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 23:09:44
joanszechtman
I agree, Judy. I read Anderson's play a few years ago and I think that
it's just right for the musical format--more musical than opera, too.

Joan
---
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Awards
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--- In , Judy Thomson
<judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Years ago, I read that Anthony Newley wrote one. No idea if this is
true. But one good point of departure might be adapting Richard and Anne
by Maxwell Anderson....
>
> Anyone know Sondheim?
>
> Judy
> Â
> Loyaulte me lie
>
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> ________________________________
> From: fayreroze fayreroze@...
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:33 AM
> Subject: R3 - The musical
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> Â
> here's my latest off the wall thought.
>
> a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy
some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers)
are.
>
> at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers
of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the
plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly
adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market
waiting to be tapped into.
>
> i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't
recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed
as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.
>
> anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work.
richard's story would make a great opera.
>
> roslyn
>
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Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-02 23:47:29
Judy Thomson
Thanks, Joan. Just wish I had some "say." My Broadway "contacts" are down the ladder. Way down. Rodney, the mask guy. Or puppeteer Phil. 

Doesn't make for much clout, alas! ; )

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: joanszechtman <u2nohoo@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: R3 - The musical


 
I agree, Judy. I read Anderson's play a few years ago and I think that
it's just right for the musical format--more musical than opera, too.

Joan
---
This Time--General Fiction Finalist of 2010 Next Generation Indie Book
Awards
Loyalty Binds Me--recommended by Midwest Book reviews
website <http://www.joanszechtman.com/> -- blog
<http://rtoaaa.blogspot.com/> --trailer <http://youtu.be/O49HPSN08NI>
ebooks at Smashwords
<http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/JoanSzechtman>

--- In , Judy Thomson
<judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Years ago, I read that Anthony Newley wrote one. No idea if this is
true. But one good point of departure might be adapting Richard and Anne
by Maxwell Anderson....
>
> Anyone know Sondheim?
>
> Judy
> Â
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: fayreroze fayreroze@...
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:33 AM
> Subject: R3 - The musical
>
>
> Â
> here's my latest off the wall thought.
>
> a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy
some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers)
are.
>
> at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers
of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the
plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly
adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market
waiting to be tapped into.
>
> i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't
recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed
as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.
>
> anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work.
richard's story would make a great opera.
>
> roslyn
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-03 00:48:55
Sheffe
one where stephen and matilda are battling for the throne and there is an appentice stone cutter

Pillars of the Earth.  I really enjoyed that.

Sheffe




>________________________________
> From: fayre rose <fayreroze@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 5:39 PM
>Subject: Re: R3 - The musical
>
>

>yes, that is the movie i'm thinking of.
>i don't even think you would need to go into humour.

>the trend seems to be for "medieval" era drama or fantasy/drama.
>tudors, borgias, game of thrones, arrgh..the one where stephen and matilda are battling for the throne and there is an appentice stone cutter. there are more of these types of movies being released..season of the witch.
>
>r3 - the musical just cashes in on this trend..but with music...and "now for something completely different". if written by a ricardian..it is infotainment..it helps educate while entertaining. if the songs and tunes are catchy..you then hit a huge audience.

>think of the recent success of the movie, chicago.

>what is required is a backer from the music industry, with connections to the "big stars".

>shakespeare..eat your heart out..:-))

>roslyn
>--- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...> wrote:
>
>From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
>Subject: Re: R3 - The musical
>To: "" <>
>Received: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 5:16 PM
>

>
>I think you might be thinking of "A Knight's Tale" with Heath Ledger.  I love the movie, it's really good fun.  Completely anachronistic, but it is meant tongue in cheek and for me it definitely works - and I always liked Heath Ledger in his 'fun' movies like for instance "Two Hands".
>
>I think your idea about something similar about Richard, being portrayed positively in a humorous way, might very well work and might serve to counteract the Shakespearean baddie.
>
>Cheers, Dorothea
>
>________________________________
>From: fayreroze <fayreroze@...>
>To:
>Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 3:33 AM
>Subject: R3 - The musical
>

>here's my latest off the wall thought.
>
>a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are.
>
>at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market waiting to be tapped into.
>
>i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.
>
>anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work. richard's story would make a great opera.
>
>roslyn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-03 02:03:49
fayre rose
yes, that is the one. i enjoyed it too. my ancestors were stone masons, so it had an added draw for me...:-)

--- On Thu, 2/2/12, Sheffe <shethra77@...> wrote:


From: Sheffe <shethra77@...>
Subject: Re: R3 - The musical
To: "" <>
Received: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 7:48 PM



 



one where stephen and matilda are battling for the throne and there is an appentice stone cutter

Pillars of the Earth.  I really enjoyed that.

Sheffe

>________________________________
> From: fayre rose <fayreroze@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 5:39 PM
>Subject: Re: R3 - The musical
>
>

>yes, that is the movie i'm thinking of.
>i don't even think you would need to go into humour.

>the trend seems to be for "medieval" era drama or fantasy/drama.
>tudors, borgias, game of thrones, arrgh..the one where stephen and matilda are battling for the throne and there is an appentice stone cutter. there are more of these types of movies being released..season of the witch.
>
>r3 - the musical just cashes in on this trend..but with music...and "now for something completely different". if written by a ricardian..it is infotainment..it helps educate while entertaining. if the songs and tunes are catchy..you then hit a huge audience.

>think of the recent success of the movie, chicago.

>what is required is a backer from the music industry, with connections to the "big stars".

>shakespeare..eat your heart out..:-))

>roslyn
>--- On Thu, 2/2/12, Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...> wrote:
>
>From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
>Subject: Re: R3 - The musical
>To: "" <>
>Received: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 5:16 PM
>

>
>I think you might be thinking of "A Knight's Tale" with Heath Ledger.  I love the movie, it's really good fun.  Completely anachronistic, but it is meant tongue in cheek and for me it definitely works - and I always liked Heath Ledger in his 'fun' movies like for instance "Two Hands".
>
>I think your idea about something similar about Richard, being portrayed positively in a humorous way, might very well work and might serve to counteract the Shakespearean baddie.
>
>Cheers, Dorothea
>
>________________________________
>From: fayreroze <fayreroze@...>
>To:
>Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 3:33 AM
>Subject: R3 - The musical
>

>here's my latest off the wall thought.
>
>a few days ago, i caught a brief blurb on the news about how wealthy some of the entertainers and related careers (agents/managers/producers) are.
>
>at that time, it crossed my mind that since the "standard" producers of movie or television productions are avoiding R3 scripts like the plague, perhaps robert or paul could look at their scripts and possibly adapt them to an musical production. it could be a whole new market waiting to be tapped into.
>
>i'm thinking of the farce that was produced a few years back, i can't recall the name of the movie, but a fictionalised chaucer was portrayed as a gambler and frontman for a wannabe knight.
>
>anyhow, just something to think about. who knows it might work. richard's story would make a great opera.
>
>roslyn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>










Re: R3 - The musical

2012-02-04 00:40:45
Sharp, Ann (GT&D)
It might be even more attractive if the musical were about the Princes, and the happy ending found them -- after exciting adventures -- in Bruges with Margaret.

L.P.H.,

Ann

"Mama, Mama, I'm in Bruges . . . ."
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