Ex Libris?

OMGoodness, Gary!

If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).

I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie

On 14 Mar 2012, at 16:25, Judy Thomson wrote:

> and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess

Good? She was her father in skirts, just as autocratic and bad tempered, but with better luck, an ego not quite as large, and a sex drive that didn't influence her policy too much!!!
Still a Tudor!
Paul


Richard Liveth Yet!

Hi, Paul! Just trying to be diplomatic for Gary, whom I don't know. The best thing about EI is she's fun to impersonate.... I've made "guest appearances" in schools and libraries, and my spiel (plus the Q&A) sets the record straighter on Richard. The kids love it, and they learn a valuable lesson on Truth in History.

Love,
Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Ex Libris?


 

On 14 Mar 2012, at 16:25, Judy Thomson wrote:

> and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess

Good? She was her father in skirts, just as autocratic and bad tempered, but with better luck, an ego not quite as large, and a sex drive that didn't influence her policy too much!!!
Still a Tudor!
Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!

When the survivors of the Spanish Armada returned to Spain, Philip set up hospitals to look after them, fed them and paid them pensions.

Elizabeth kept the English fleet short of supplies, and thousands were to die of illness and their wounds.  When they eventually got back to port, the survivors were told to get off home and don't bother the Queen with their claims for pay or help, and were threatened with reprisals if they did not disband from the ports.

It was left up to Lord Howard, Drake and Hawkins to try and pay their men out of their own pockets.

As Paul says, a typical Tudor.  
 
Graham Howard

20 Craigs Drive
Edinburgh
EH12 8UW

0131 5393031

0796 3169433

Hey, Graham, she was the reason one set of my ancestors moved to Scotland; they later came to America by dribs and drabs. 

I had one actor friend who played her in drag. You'd have laughed 'til you cried....

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: graham howard <grahamchoward@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Ex Libris?


 
When the survivors of the Spanish Armada returned to Spain, Philip set up hospitals to look after them, fed them and paid them pensions.

Elizabeth kept the English fleet short of supplies, and thousands were to die of illness and their wounds.  When they eventually got back to port, the survivors were told to get off home and don't bother the Queen with their claims for pay or help, and were threatened with reprisals if they did not disband from the ports.

It was left up to Lord Howard, Drake and Hawkins to try and pay their men out of their own pockets.

As Paul says, a typical Tudor.  
 
Graham Howard

20 Craigs Drive
Edinburgh
EH12 8UW

0131 5393031

0796 3169433

I thoroughly agree with trimming posts, but not to the exclusion of
sense, please.

I can't find anything in my 'forum' inbox - which goes back months -
from anyone noticeably called Gary, so I have no idea what Judy is
referring to. It looks interesting, but who knows?

Best wishes
Christine

On 14/03/2012 16:25, Judy Thomson wrote:
> OMGoodness, Gary!
>
> If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...). Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
>
> I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
>
> Judy
>
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Best wishes
Christine

Christine Headley
Butterrow, Stroud, Glos

So sorry, Christine. Gary had been discussing the College of Arms. Today, Yahoo Groups sent out a photo from him, showing a beautifully rendered coat of arms, but of the Tudor period. I searched for my original Emails on that "thread" but I must have deleted them. 

Hope that 'splains things!

Regards!
Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: Christine Headley <christinelheadley@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:26 PM
Subject: Overtrimming, WAS Ex Libris?


 

I thoroughly agree with trimming posts, but not to the exclusion of
sense, please.

I can't find anything in my 'forum' inbox - which goes back months -
from anyone noticeably called Gary, so I have no idea what Judy is
referring to. It looks interesting, but who knows?

Best wishes
Christine

On 14/03/2012 16:25, Judy Thomson wrote:
> OMGoodness, Gary!
>
> If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...). Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
>
> I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
>
> Judy
>
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4869 - Release Date: 03/13/12
>
>
>
>

--
Best wishes
Christine

Christine Headley
Butterrow, Stroud, Glos

Sometimes my Spam Blocker gets over zealous and puts RIII Forum stuff in that folder. It's possible any one of us has suffered this sort of weirdness. Ah, computers!

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: Christine Headley <christinelheadley@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:26 PM
Subject: Overtrimming, WAS Ex Libris?


 

I thoroughly agree with trimming posts, but not to the exclusion of
sense, please.

I can't find anything in my 'forum' inbox - which goes back months -
from anyone noticeably called Gary, so I have no idea what Judy is
referring to. It looks interesting, but who knows?

Best wishes
Christine

On 14/03/2012 16:25, Judy Thomson wrote:
> OMGoodness, Gary!
>
> If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...). Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
>
> I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
>
> Judy
>
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4869 - Release Date: 03/13/12
>
>
>
>

--
Best wishes
Christine

Christine Headley
Butterrow, Stroud, Glos

Judy,

Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.

I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.

Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/

I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.

Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.

Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com

Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.

Gary

_______________________

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> OMGoodness, Gary!
>
> If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
>
> I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
>

Dear Gary,

Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.

This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.

Warm regards,
Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Ex Libris?


 
Judy,

Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.

I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.

Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/

I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.

Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.

Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com

Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.

Gary

_______________________

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> OMGoodness, Gary!
>
> If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
>
> I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
>

Judy,

If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.

Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.

Gary
____________


--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Gary,
>
> Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
>
> This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
>
> Warm regards,
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
>
>
>  
> Judy,
>
> Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
>
> I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
>
> Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
>
> I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
>
> Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
>
> Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
>
> Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
>
> Gary
>
> _______________________
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > OMGoodness, Gary!
> >
> > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> >
> > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> >
> > Judy
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Appreciate your honesty. Honest.

There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.

You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House. 

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Ex Libris?


 
Judy,

If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.

Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.

Gary
____________

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Gary,
>
> Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
>
> This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
>
> Warm regards,
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
>
>
>  
> Judy,
>
> Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
>
> I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
>
> Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
>
> I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
>
> Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
>
> Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
>
> Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
>
> Gary
>
> _______________________
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > OMGoodness, Gary!
> >
> > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> >
> > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> >
> > Judy
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Judy,

I've been working on something really useful and of my personal interest. I'll post that in the forum soon as a draft for improvement more likely than not.

Anyone that wants a copy may. Knowing someone might get use of it rewards.

Gary
________________


--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Appreciate your honesty. Honest.
>
> There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.
>
> You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House. 
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
>
>
>  
> Judy,
>
> If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.
>
> Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Gary,
> >
> > Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
> >
> > This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Judy
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> >
> >
> >  
> > Judy,
> >
> > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
> >
> > I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
> >
> > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
> >
> > I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
> >
> > Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
> >
> > Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
> >
> > Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > _______________________
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OMGoodness, Gary!
> > >
> > > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> > >
> > > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >  
> > > Loyaulte me lie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Gary, I'll be looking!

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Ex Libris?


 
Judy,

I've been working on something really useful and of my personal interest. I'll post that in the forum soon as a draft for improvement more likely than not.

Anyone that wants a copy may. Knowing someone might get use of it rewards.

Gary
________________

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Appreciate your honesty. Honest.
>
> There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.
>
> You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House. 
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
>
>
>  
> Judy,
>
> If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.
>
> Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Gary,
> >
> > Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
> >
> > This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Judy
> > à
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> >
> >
> > à
> > Judy,
> >
> > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
> >
> > I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
> >
> > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
> >
> > I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
> >
> > Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
> >
> > Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
> >
> > Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > _______________________
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OMGoodness, Gary!
> > >
> > > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...). àNot only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> > >
> > > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> > >
> > > Judy
> > > à
> > > Loyaulte me lie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Judy,

Working...working...working...

Too funny for me.

Gary
___________


--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Gary, I'll be looking!
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
>
>
>  
> Judy,
>
> I've been working on something really useful and of my personal interest. I'll post that in the forum soon as a draft for improvement more likely than not.
>
> Anyone that wants a copy may. Knowing someone might get use of it rewards.
>
> Gary
> ________________
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Appreciate your honesty. Honest.
> >
> > There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.
> >
> > You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House. 
> >
> > Judy
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> >
> >
> >  
> > Judy,
> >
> > If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.
> >
> > Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Gary,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
> > >
> > > This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
> > >
> > > Warm regards,
> > > Judy
> > >  
> > > Loyaulte me lie
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Judy,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
> > >
> > > I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
> > >
> > > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
> > >
> > > I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
> > >
> > > Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
> > >
> > > Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
> > >
> > > Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > _______________________
> > >
> > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OMGoodness, Gary!
> > > >
> > > > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> > > >
> > > > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> > > >
> > > > Judy
> > > >  
> > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Judy,

I had some backlog projects start up and will post the item later.

Gary
_________________



--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> Working...working...working...
>
> Too funny for me.
>
> Gary
> ___________
>
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Gary, I'll be looking!
> >
> > Judy
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> >
> >
> >  
> > Judy,
> >
> > I've been working on something really useful and of my personal interest. I'll post that in the forum soon as a draft for improvement more likely than not.
> >
> > Anyone that wants a copy may. Knowing someone might get use of it rewards.
> >
> > Gary
> > ________________
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Appreciate your honesty. Honest.
> > >
> > > There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.
> > >
> > > You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House. 
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >  
> > > Loyaulte me lie
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Judy,
> > >
> > > If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.
> > >
> > > Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ____________
> > >
> > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Gary,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
> > > >
> > > > This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
> > > >
> > > > Warm regards,
> > > > Judy
> > > >  
> > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > Judy,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
> > > >
> > > > I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
> > > >
> > > > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
> > > >
> > > > I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
> > > >
> > > > Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
> > > >
> > > > Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > _______________________
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OMGoodness, Gary!
> > > > >
> > > > > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> > > > >
> > > > > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Judy
> > > > >  
> > > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Gary. Hoorah!
BTW, I've never been as "into" genealogy as some family members, but my maiden name was once tracked to some Wm. Gerard in York, fined for leaving a dead horse in the road in the 15th C. My mother said: Just figures; your dad leaves his laundry near to but never in the laundry hamper. Perhaps these things are genetic?

Judy 
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Ex Libris?


 
Judy,

I had some backlog projects start up and will post the item later.

Gary
_________________

--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> Working...working...working...
>
> Too funny for me.
>
> Gary
> ___________
>
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Gary, I'll be looking!
> >
> > Judy
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> >
> >
> >  
> > Judy,
> >
> > I've been working on something really useful and of my personal interest. I'll post that in the forum soon as a draft for improvement more likely than not.
> >
> > Anyone that wants a copy may. Knowing someone might get use of it rewards.
> >
> > Gary
> > ________________
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Appreciate your honesty. Honest.
> > >
> > > There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.
> > >
> > > You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House.à
> > >
> > > Judy
> > > à
> > > Loyaulte me lie
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > >
> > >
> > > à
> > > Judy,
> > >
> > > If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.
> > >
> > > Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ____________
> > >
> > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Gary,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
> > > >
> > > > This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
> > > >
> > > > Warm regards,
> > > > Judy
> > > > Ã’â¬aà
> > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ã’â¬aà
> > > > Judy,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
> > > >
> > > > I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
> > > >
> > > > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
> > > >
> > > > I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
> > > >
> > > > Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
> > > >
> > > > Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > _______________________
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OMGoodness, Gary!
> > > > >
> > > > > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...). Ã’â¬aàNot only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> > > > >
> > > > > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Judy
> > > > > Ã’â¬aà
> > > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Judy,

That is funny.

Just posted a heraldry graphic you should enjoy. Hey, I like the one with lady for crest. Really nice graphics from the book The Art of Heraldry by Charles Fox-Davies, 1904.

Garyl
____________________


--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Gary. Hoorah!
> BTW, I've never been as "into" genealogy as some family members, but my maiden name was once tracked to some Wm. Gerard in York, fined for leaving a dead horse in the road in the 15th C. My mother said: Just figures; your dad leaves his laundry near to but never in the laundry hamper. Perhaps these things are genetic?
>
> Judy 
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
>
>
>  
> Judy,
>
> I had some backlog projects start up and will post the item later.
>
> Gary
> _________________
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> >
> > Judy,
> >
> > Working...working...working...
> >
> > Too funny for me.
> >
> > Gary
> > ___________
> >
> >
> > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary, I'll be looking!
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >  
> > > Loyaulte me lie
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Judy,
> > >
> > > I've been working on something really useful and of my personal interest. I'll post that in the forum soon as a draft for improvement more likely than not.
> > >
> > > Anyone that wants a copy may. Knowing someone might get use of it rewards.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ________________
> > >
> > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Appreciate your honesty. Honest.
> > > >
> > > > There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.
> > > >
> > > > You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House. 
> > > >
> > > > Judy
> > > >  
> > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > Judy,
> > > >
> > > > If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.
> > > >
> > > > Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > ____________
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Gary,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
> > > > >
> > > > > This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
> > > > >
> > > > > Warm regards,
> > > > > Judy
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Judy,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OMGoodness, Gary!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...). ÃÆ'‚ Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Judy
> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Judy,

Resized for Windows wallpapers.

Gary
_________________



--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> That is funny.
>
> Just posted a heraldry graphic you should enjoy. Hey, I like the one with lady for crest. Really nice graphics from the book The Art of Heraldry by Charles Fox-Davies, 1904.
>
> Garyl
> ____________________
>
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Gary. Hoorah!
> > BTW, I've never been as "into" genealogy as some family members, but my maiden name was once tracked to some Wm. Gerard in York, fined for leaving a dead horse in the road in the 15th C. My mother said: Just figures; your dad leaves his laundry near to but never in the laundry hamper. Perhaps these things are genetic?
> >
> > Judy 
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> >
> >
> >  
> > Judy,
> >
> > I had some backlog projects start up and will post the item later.
> >
> > Gary
> > _________________
> >
> > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Judy,
> > >
> > > Working...working...working...
> > >
> > > Too funny for me.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ___________
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary, I'll be looking!
> > > >
> > > > Judy
> > > >  
> > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > Judy,
> > > >
> > > > I've been working on something really useful and of my personal interest. I'll post that in the forum soon as a draft for improvement more likely than not.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone that wants a copy may. Knowing someone might get use of it rewards.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > ________________
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Appreciate your honesty. Honest.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are alternate ways to reciprocate. Also, not-for-profit simply means no one gets more than fair wages in the fiscal year, and money made is plowed back into the organization. My husband works on JAMA for the American Med. Assoc., a not-for-profit. If they actually take in more than they spend, that "profit" is distributed among all employees as a bonus. Likewise, I'm costumier to Kidworks Touring Theatre Co. When they can, they pay me; when they can't, the Board of Directors provides an IOU toward future earnings. Many years ago, I worked as an Indie for The Players' Workshop of The Second City (tm). The late Jo Forsberg used to get part of her "salary" through young performers willing to work for their tuition. You'd be amazed to know who cleaned her kitchen and painted her dining room : ) And everyone was happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd still be doing me an enormous favour. Francis Lovell's C of A, for example. I have an old B&W photocopy of that and his signature. My greatest talent lies in repurposing "found objects;" I've been at it for nearly 50 years.... So if you wanted a piece of junk made useful and/or artistic, I'm your go-to. Right now, I'm finishing a clock, made from a Gothicky box with lion paw feet from something else; the face is a print of the Wheel of Fortune from a painter friend, who sent me a copy in trade for a piece of costume jewelry. The works are cheap battery-powered stuff, with upgraded antique hands. I just need to add a few doo-dads to fill in some awkward spots. Originally I made it to sell...but I've got kinda attached to it (which is the downside of the Trade - occasionally I've even bought back costumes I have made). Our flat looks like the Sir John Soane House. 
> > > > >
> > > > > Judy
> > > > >  
> > > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > > > Judy,
> > > > >
> > > > > If I were to charge then I'd ruin my not-for-profit reputation. The thought of "pro" has entered my thoughts of vanity as perhaps anyone tempted but why spoil a good thing? My graphics are clipart and not freehand.
> > > > >
> > > > > Better a sketch as offered then you might go to a real heraldry art-ist. They do exist. My digital art is getting to the point you're getting me confused with those. Really.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > ____________
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Gary,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks so much! Your efforts are very noble and appreciated. At a future date (i.e., when my cash flow is better), I shall commission at least one C of A, and when that happens, you'll either get money or we can barter (my graphics are funky - more Shel Silverstein, The Giving Tree, or Sendak-esque; but mostly I do mixed-media/fibrearts). Can't count how much I've given away; only recently, friends started insisting on paying. Trouble is, I take so long, being very finicky, I still end up at about $1 per hour.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This Forum is full of writers (fiction and non-fiction). With the trend toward self-publishing, etc., writers are getting back more control over illustrations and cover art. Thus, a demand is created for pieces like yours. You needn't charge a fortune, but getting even a few bucks, you can add "professional" to your resume.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Warm regards,
> > > > > > Judy
> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Ex Libris?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Judy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've had one since about 2005 but had to design a new one in 2008 and this past month which is the one you may see in Photos. By the way, that heraldry shield, helm and cape with gold veining goes back to the 1400s but was used later according to information I am able to find on the subject.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm our Smith family genealogist so just put the interest with the graphics and many efforts later. If you'd like me to make you a little simpler bookplate all you have to do is join the forum Round Table Arms and I've pre-made some shiny graphics along with a few bookplate designs. There are lady's lozenges and ovals too and just did one of those for a forum member. Anyone just has to wait a few days or more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey, I'm very glad to find a really active forum as a few I belong too are not so charged up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's my personal genealogy and graphics page. Anyone doing graphics loves showing off their Richard III bookplate--too funny for me. Hope no one minds. heraldry.mysite.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mysite would be a great place to post a set of Richard III graphics or others and post the link with signature. No, I own no stock in Mysite--too funny.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OMGoodness, Gary!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...). ÃÆ'‚ Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Judy
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Loyaulte me lie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.

> Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?


This has nothing much to do with anything Ricardian, but anyway...

I'm relating this from (my faulty) memory: Shakespeare was eventually granted a coat of arms, though he was not from a noble or titled family. The coat, or possibly the device on top of it, was a falcon. The motto was "Not without right" ie, he felt he deserved it.

Samuel Johnson, the author who lived a century later, said he wanted a similar coat of arms, with the motto "Not without mustard."

Katy

Katy,

For the first 300 years anyone in England assumed the arms they chose and as a full inheritance to the next generation. When government (the kings) decided there was a fee to be had the granting of arms became a controlled situation but I'm pretty sure regulation of the nobles and who owned what arms may have been from early on. There would always have been contention over property ownership.

It's possible Shakespeare may have been referring to the use of arms by an unspoken right to have them but may not have meant in difference to being noble or aristocratic. Perhaps he meant some other right(???).

Gary
_____________________



--- In , "oregon_katy" <oregon_katy@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> >
> > Judy,
> >
> > Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.
>
> > Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?
>
>
> This has nothing much to do with anything Ricardian, but anyway...
>
> I'm relating this from (my faulty) memory: Shakespeare was eventually granted a coat of arms, though he was not from a noble or titled family. The coat, or possibly the device on top of it, was a falcon. The motto was "Not without right" ie, he felt he deserved it.
>
> Samuel Johnson, the author who lived a century later, said he wanted a similar coat of arms, with the motto "Not without mustard."
>
> Katy
>

Katy, I always thought that was Nathan's motto (hot dogs, Coney Island, Brooklyn, NYC). 

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: oregon_katy <oregon_katy@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Ex Libris? (possibly OT)


 


--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> Thank you for the comment about my 2012 ExLibris bookplate.

> Since my earnest interest in heraldry began again about 2002 but I've never sold or charged anything to anybody for anything--really. There are those who give me accusations of secretly selling but I have one graphics set been working on for years and never did market on it and use them myself. What else is there to do?

This has nothing much to do with anything Ricardian, but anyway...

I'm relating this from (my faulty) memory: Shakespeare was eventually granted a coat of arms, though he was not from a noble or titled family. The coat, or possibly the device on top of it, was a falcon. The motto was "Not without right" ie, he felt he deserved it.

Samuel Johnson, the author who lived a century later, said he wanted a similar coat of arms, with the motto "Not without mustard."

Katy

Gary,

If you have any arms from before 1399 or 1603-1715, they would be very relevant to "Sceptred Isle" (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sceptredisle/) and you could re-post these as well,

Stephen.

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
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> OMGoodness, Gary!
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> If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
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> I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
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> Judy
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> Loyaulte me lie
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>
>

Stephen,

Just now found your e-mail and will take a look into this question.

Here's what I know so far. Heraldry is little more than 900 years old and some change has come along with that in the way of helmet, drawn charges and shield design.

The lions of my arms in Photos are very early and in the real heraldry world request of which lions (old or more modern) is up to armiger and artist. When remaking my own about three months ago I'd never heard of the Richard III Society (sorry) but liked the helm and cape design.

Will have a look.

Gary
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--- In , "stephenmlark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
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> Gary,
>
> If you have any arms from before 1399 or 1603-1715, they would be very relevant to "Sceptred Isle" (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sceptredisle/) and you could re-post these as well,
>
> Stephen.
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > OMGoodness, Gary!
> >
> > If you did that bookplate, there's a market for anything Ricardian (and - boo - Tudor, but we must remember good Queen Bess...).  Not only might you advertise in the Society's publications (not many T. boosters, however, unless you want to design something humourous as a send-up), but etsy.com is an excellent place to sell neat stuff (their original criteria incuded only handmade and unique, but the field has broadened to include: prints, books, vintage items, and anything arcane...as of my last search for "medieval," someone was selling a Viking artifact, a bone needle, I think).
> >
> > I bet you could even sell a hand-bound book of coats of arms, and someone will want it.
> >
> > Judy
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> >
>