Baldwin cont

Baldwin cont

2012-04-02 11:05:52
Paul Trevor Bale
After Tewkesbury we are told that " this latest cycle of killings, exile, and victory against the odds..can only have increased Richard's determination to control his own destiny. He knew that he could expect no mercy himself in future, and that there would be times where he would have to strike first and decisively in order to survive".

Clearly again Mr Baldwin thinks he knows how Richard was thinking.

Thought this biography was supposed to be balanced.

Peter Hammond's commendation concerns me too. "Summarising where possible without misleading or adding interesting detail'. What are Richard's supposed thoughts and motives if not added detail?

Couldn't possibly accuse Baldwin of looking back at things from present times could we?
May be time for me to stop reading and look after my blood pressure.

Paul




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Re: Baldwin cont

2012-04-02 15:11:00
Judy Thomson
Ack! Paul, don't let this guy make you "sick."

I'm surprised by Hammond.

Judy
 
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After Tewkesbury we are told that " this latest cycle of killings, exile, and victory against the odds..can only have increased Richard's determination to control his own destiny. He knew that he could expect no mercy himself in future, and that there would be times where he would have to strike first and decisively in order to survive".

Clearly again Mr Baldwin thinks he knows how Richard was thinking.

Thought this biography was supposed to be balanced.

Peter Hammond's commendation concerns me too. "Summarising where possible without misleading or adding interesting detail'. What are Richard's supposed thoughts and motives if not added detail?

Couldn't possibly accuse Baldwin of looking back at things from present times could we?
May be time for me to stop reading and look after my blood pressure.

Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!






Re: Baldwin cont

2012-04-02 16:02:02
joanszechtman
What Judy said. Maybe Baldwin fancies himself a novelist. Paul, maybe
you should write a review pointing out that Baldwin's speculation is
presented as fact--a real no-no in non-fiction unless preceded by the
author stating that this is his/her speculation based on hindsight
interpretation.

What really frosts me is that because we're the ones called
revisionists, we have to be prepared to show where and how the so-called
traditionalists arguments fail based on extant documentation.
Unfortunately, the traditionalists don't seem compelled to examine
revisionist writings to the same depth. What happened to innocent until
proven guilty?

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> To: RichardIIISociety forum
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> After Tewkesbury we are told that " this latest cycle of killings,
exile, and victory against the odds..can only have increased Richard's
determination to control his own destiny. He knew that he could expect
no mercy himself in future, and that there would be times where he would
have to strike first and decisively in order to survive".
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> Clearly again Mr Baldwin thinks he knows how Richard was thinking.
>
> Thought this biography was supposed to be balanced.
>
> Peter Hammond's commendation concerns me too. "Summarising where
possible without misleading or adding interesting detail'. What are
Richard's supposed thoughts and motives if not added detail?
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> Couldn't possibly accuse Baldwin of looking back at things from
present times could we?
> May be time for me to stop reading and look after my blood pressure.
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> Paul
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> Richard Liveth Yet!
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Re: Baldwin cont

2012-04-03 13:35:39
Paul Trevor Bale
On 2 Apr 2012, at 16:01, joanszechtman wrote:

> Maybe Baldwin fancies himself a novelist. Paul, maybe
> you should write a review pointing out that Baldwin's speculation is
> presented as fact--a real no-no in non-fiction unless preceded by the
> author stating that this is his/her speculation based on hindsight
> interpretation.


I agree with what you say Joan, only trouble is, in order to write a review I'd have to read the whole book!!
Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!

Re: Baldwin cont

2012-04-03 13:43:51
Karen Clark
Well, so long as he's no worse at speculation than Kendall, whose books to
me read like thinly veiled novels. I haven't got Baldwin's Richard yet, but
I'm looking forward to reading it.

Karen Clark

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On 2 Apr 2012, at 16:01, joanszechtman wrote:

> Maybe Baldwin fancies himself a novelist. Paul, maybe
> you should write a review pointing out that Baldwin's speculation is
> presented as fact--a real no-no in non-fiction unless preceded by the
> author stating that this is his/her speculation based on hindsight
> interpretation.

I agree with what you say Joan, only trouble is, in order to write a review
I'd have to read the whole book!!
Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!









Re: Baldwin cont

2012-04-03 14:32:09
Paul Trevor Bale
Sorry Karen totally disagree. What Kendall does is write fluidly and with readability, if for some a wee bit purply at times, but his facts are always accurate and he does not make things up to support his cause or read the archives and cherry pick what he wants.
Paul

On 3 Apr 2012, at 13:43, Karen Clark wrote:

> Well, so long as he's no worse at speculation than Kendall, whose books to
> me read like thinly veiled novels. I haven't got Baldwin's Richard yet, but
> I'm looking forward to reading it.
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>> Maybe Baldwin fancies himself a novelist. Paul, maybe
>> you should write a review pointing out that Baldwin's speculation is
>> presented as fact--a real no-no in non-fiction unless preceded by the
>> author stating that this is his/her speculation based on hindsight
>> interpretation.
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> I agree with what you say Joan, only trouble is, in order to write a review
> I'd have to read the whole book!!
> Paul
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Re: Baldwin cont

2012-04-03 15:27:32
C HOLMES
Here here Paul, thoroughly agree, I was looking forward to Baldwin's book too but was very disapointed in it, shame.



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Sorry Karen totally disagree. What Kendall does is write fluidly and with readability, if for some a wee bit purply at times, but his facts are always accurate and he does not make things up to support his cause or read the archives and cherry pick what he wants.
Paul

On 3 Apr 2012, at 13:43, Karen Clark wrote:

> Well, so long as he's no worse at speculation than Kendall, whose books to
> me read like thinly veiled novels. I haven't got Baldwin's Richard yet, but
> I'm looking forward to reading it.
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> Karen Clark
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>> Maybe Baldwin fancies himself a novelist. Paul, maybe
>> you should write a review pointing out that Baldwin's speculation is
>> presented as fact--a real no-no in non-fiction unless preceded by the
>> author stating that this is his/her speculation based on hindsight
>> interpretation.
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> I agree with what you say Joan, only trouble is, in order to write a review
> I'd have to read the whole book!!
> Paul
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Re: Baldwin cont

2012-04-08 20:26:25
ricard1an
Thank you Paul for saving my blood pressure. I won't buy it. It is funny how traditionalists always insist that we Ricardian revisionists have to have evidence for anything that we might write but they can say anything they like and get away with it.
Loyaulte me Lie.

Mary

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> After Tewkesbury we are told that " this latest cycle of killings, exile, and victory against the odds..can only have increased Richard's determination to control his own destiny. He knew that he could expect no mercy himself in future, and that there would be times where he would have to strike first and decisively in order to survive".
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> Clearly again Mr Baldwin thinks he knows how Richard was thinking.
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> Thought this biography was supposed to be balanced.
>
> Peter Hammond's commendation concerns me too. "Summarising where possible without misleading or adding interesting detail'. What are Richard's supposed thoughts and motives if not added detail?
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> Couldn't possibly accuse Baldwin of looking back at things from present times could we?
> May be time for me to stop reading and look after my blood pressure.
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