My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-02 23:36:03
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-03 09:22:24
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-03 23:49:20
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Annette Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Annette Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-04 09:59:07
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Annette Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Annette Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dig
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-04 10:09:43
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-04 10:44:38
The answer to that is yes, but I seem to remember he gave different stories at different times. I would have to look them up, or probably other forum members can call them to mind.
There are two big problems with 'Perkin', and they both derive from concealment of the truth. One is that you never know whether what was reported was what he actually said, plus of course you have to discount anything resulting from duress after capture.
The other problem resides in how their removal from England would have been effected, if that was what happened. If the two brothers were to be successfully hidden you would certainly have to separate them, for obvious reasons - i.e. two boys of precisely the right ages and with courtly manners would be extremely conspicuous, and they simply could not be relied upon to guard every word they spoke. Once separated, you now have the problem of exactly what story each brother was told about the other, because naturally you couldn't tell them the truth (whatever it was) without the danger that one of them might be tracked down and forced to reveal what he knew. Safest would probably be for each to be told that the other had died in some way. Moreover, you would also have to hide the identities of those people who were charged with getting them safely to their destinations, because again you wouldn't want either boy to reveal who had saved them. It would have been a complicated matter of covering the tracks of everyone involved. Not impossible, however. Basically, the way I see it is this: if the brothers were hidden away in safety, those involved had every reason to keep silent. If they were murdered, those involved had every reason to let the fact be known.
----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Clark
To:
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
There are two big problems with 'Perkin', and they both derive from concealment of the truth. One is that you never know whether what was reported was what he actually said, plus of course you have to discount anything resulting from duress after capture.
The other problem resides in how their removal from England would have been effected, if that was what happened. If the two brothers were to be successfully hidden you would certainly have to separate them, for obvious reasons - i.e. two boys of precisely the right ages and with courtly manners would be extremely conspicuous, and they simply could not be relied upon to guard every word they spoke. Once separated, you now have the problem of exactly what story each brother was told about the other, because naturally you couldn't tell them the truth (whatever it was) without the danger that one of them might be tracked down and forced to reveal what he knew. Safest would probably be for each to be told that the other had died in some way. Moreover, you would also have to hide the identities of those people who were charged with getting them safely to their destinations, because again you wouldn't want either boy to reveal who had saved them. It would have been a complicated matter of covering the tracks of everyone involved. Not impossible, however. Basically, the way I see it is this: if the brothers were hidden away in safety, those involved had every reason to keep silent. If they were murdered, those involved had every reason to let the fact be known.
----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Clark
To:
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-04 11:00:37
Just a little bit of patiience, Karen! All your books, including the Wroe one are in a bag, ready for Mittagong.
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-04 11:30:36
Ooooh! I've got tingles.
From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Just a little bit of patiience, Karen! All your books, including the Wroe
one are in a bag, ready for Mittagong.
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...
<mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com> >
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...
<mailto:email%40annettecarson.plus.com> >
Reply-To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Just a little bit of patiience, Karen! All your books, including the Wroe
one are in a bag, ready for Mittagong.
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...
<mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com> >
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...
<mailto:email%40annettecarson.plus.com> >
Reply-To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-04 11:35:30
And I got the first draft of the paper done today, Dorothea. (20 minutes on
the nail!) I'll make Martin listen to it over the weekend and hopefully
there might just be the chance of a possibility that it could maybe be a
teensy bit interesting.
Karen
From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Just a little bit of patiience, Karen! All your books, including the Wroe
one are in a bag, ready for Mittagong.
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...
<mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com> >
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...
<mailto:email%40annettecarson.plus.com> >
Reply-To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
the nail!) I'll make Martin listen to it over the weekend and hopefully
there might just be the chance of a possibility that it could maybe be a
teensy bit interesting.
Karen
From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Just a little bit of patiience, Karen! All your books, including the Wroe
one are in a bag, ready for Mittagong.
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...
<mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com> >
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...
<mailto:email%40annettecarson.plus.com> >
Reply-To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
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ital-text
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I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD's AUTUMN
2012-05-04 23:09:42
Ooooh! I've got tingles, too!
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
And I got the first draft of the paper done today, Dorothea. (20 minutes on
the nail!) I'll make Martin listen to it over the weekend and hopefully
there might just be the chance of a possibility that it could maybe be a
teensy bit interesting.
Karen
From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Just a little bit of patiience, Karen! All your books, including the Wroe
one are in a bag, ready for Mittagong.
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...
<mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com> >
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...
<mailto:email%40annettecarson.plus.com> >
Reply-To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
And I got the first draft of the paper done today, Dorothea. (20 minutes on
the nail!) I'll make Martin listen to it over the weekend and hopefully
there might just be the chance of a possibility that it could maybe be a
teensy bit interesting.
Karen
From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Just a little bit of patiience, Karen! All your books, including the Wroe
one are in a bag, ready for Mittagong.
See you next week!
Cheers, Dorothea
________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...
<mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com> >
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't got the Wroe book yet, but it'll be in my library soon (within a
week, but I can't wait that long!) Did Perkin have anything to say about his
'older brother'?
Karen
From: Annette Carson <email@...
<mailto:email%40annettecarson.plus.com> >
Reply-To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:59:04 +0100
To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
I haven't read the entire book, but from what I know of it 'Sumerford's
Autumn' deals with 'Perkin Warbeck' and his supporters in an entirely
realistic way ... and serves to remind us how so many people who believed
him to be Richard of Shrewsbury took their lives in their hands for their
belief. To the best of my knowledge Ann Wroe is the only modern historian
who (in a scholarly work of non-fiction) allows the possibility that he was
who he claimed to be. Yet if he had defeated Henry Tudor and reigned
successfully, all those doubting historians would have accepted him as
Richard IV and there would never have been a 'mystery of the princes in the
Tower'!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Thanks so much Annette.
Anne Wroe's book on Perkin Warbeck really touched me and I have become
gradually convinced of his true identity. However, although my book is
strictly fiction and contains many other threads and storylines relating to
the last years of the 15th century, I have also been excessively careful to
keep to the historical facts where the plot touches the Warbeck situation -
and indeed, on all matters of research.
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Annette
Carson
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:22 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S
AUTUMN
Congratulations and best of luck with the new book!
----- Original Message -----
From: barbara
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: My Ricardian novel SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN
I feel rather OT yet again, but my new historical fiction is now published
and available on Amazon Kindle - SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN - which was inspired by
Anne Wroe's "Perkin" - a book which moved me greatly. My own book is purely
fictional, but along with other plot threads, it contains the storyline of
the so called Perkin Warbeck, and starts in September '97 immediately after
the siege of Exeter.
If anyone cares to check it out - the link is
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=di
g
ital-text
<http://www.amazon.com/Sumerfords-Autumn-ebook/dp/B007YXI7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=d
i
gital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1> &ie=UTF8&qid=1335937548&sr=1-1
I'd love to know anyone's opinion -
But now I'll stop interrupting and let you get back to the more important
and interesting discussions.
Thanks a lot,
Barbara
(Gaskell Denvil)
Author of Fair Weather and Satin Cinnabar
See my Blog http://www.bgdenvil.com/