'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond

...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)

PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
>

Hi - I believe you are looking for this book for research purposes. If you don't actually need to own it, you'll find it in several libraries. I don't know if you're in the UK, or if you are a member of the Richard III Society, but it's in the Society's Barton Library from which members in this country are able to borrow free of charge in return for paying postage costs. The British Library is another obvious source, but if you don't already have a card it's a bit of a rigmarole to get one for just this one book. The London Library has a copy, and is brilliant because you can consult any number of books on open shelves in one visit and conveniently take scans or photocopies. They do one-day tickets for £15 and the application procedure is very simple. You can search their catalogue online.

If you want to buy it, you can only get second-hand copies. I did a quick search and found that the Amazon price is not the most competitive. Type 'booksearch' into Google and you'll find a number of companies that find books to order - there are some better prices available.

I believe you also wanted to ask me something about a source - I suggest you contact me directly, my email address is emailATannettecarson.plus.com (substitute @ for AT, of course).
Regards, Annette


----- Original Message -----
From: blancsanglier1452
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond



PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
>

Hi Annette and Ed....I would love to own this book....but its very pricey as Ed say. Good idea about borrowing it from the Barton Library. Having said that I did get a cheap secondhand copy of Richard the lll The Road to Bosworth Field by P Hammond and Anne F Sutton which has pages 275-282 from The Coronation of Richard lll by the same authors..
Eileen

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
>
> Hi - I believe you are looking for this book for research purposes. If you don't actually need to own it, you'll find it in several libraries. I don't know if you're in the UK, or if you are a member of the Richard III Society, but it's in the Society's Barton Library from which members in this country are able to borrow free of charge in return for paying postage costs. The British Library is another obvious source, but if you don't already have a card it's a bit of a rigmarole to get one for just this one book. The London Library has a copy, and is brilliant because you can consult any number of books on open shelves in one visit and conveniently take scans or photocopies. They do one-day tickets for £15 and the application procedure is very simple. You can search their catalogue online.
>
> If you want to buy it, you can only get second-hand copies. I did a quick search and found that the Amazon price is not the most competitive. Type 'booksearch' into Google and you'll find a number of companies that find books to order - there are some better prices available.
>
> I believe you also wanted to ask me something about a source - I suggest you contact me directly, my email address is emailATannettecarson.plus.com (substitute @ for AT, of course).
> Regards, Annette
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blancsanglier1452
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>
>
>
> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
> >
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i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
 
roslyn

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From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To:
Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM



 



PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
>

Hi all  Richard lovers, I have the Coronation of Richard book and got it from Albris Books USA  in Jan of this year, it cost  about £89 and shipping as far as I can recall, a great deal less than Amazon anyway and well worth the purchase, it is fascinating.
God Bless Richard
Christine


________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 14:24
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond



 

Hi Annette and Ed....I would love to own this book....but its very pricey as Ed say. Good idea about borrowing it from the Barton Library. Having said that I did get a cheap secondhand copy of Richard the lll The Road to Bosworth Field by P Hammond and Anne F Sutton which has pages 275-282 from The Coronation of Richard lll by the same authors..
Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
>
> Hi - I believe you are looking for this book for research purposes. If you don't actually need to own it, you'll find it in several libraries. I don't know if you're in the UK, or if you are a member of the Richard III Society, but it's in the Society's Barton Library from which members in this country are able to borrow free of charge in return for paying postage costs. The British Library is another obvious source, but if you don't already have a card it's a bit of a rigmarole to get one for just this one book. The London Library has a copy, and is brilliant because you can consult any number of books on open shelves in one visit and conveniently take scans or photocopies. They do one-day tickets for £15 and the application procedure is very simple. You can search their catalogue online.
>
> If you want to buy it, you can only get second-hand copies. I did a quick search and found that the Amazon price is not the most competitive. Type 'booksearch' into Google and you'll find a number of companies that find books to order - there are some better prices available.
>
> I believe you also wanted to ask me something about a source - I suggest you contact me directly, my email address is emailATannettecarson.plus.com (substitute @ for AT, of course).
> Regards, Annette
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blancsanglier1452
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>
>
>
> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
> >
>
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Looks like this will be going on my longish term wish list!

Karen

From: C HOLMES <christineholmes651@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:57:22 +0100 (BST)
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond






Hi all Richard lovers, I have the Coronation of Richard book and got it
from Albris Books USA in Jan of this year, it cost about £89 and shipping
as far as I can recall, a great deal less than Amazon anyway and well worth
the purchase, it is fascinating.
God Bless Richard
Christine

I almost feel guilty to say I have a copy I bought when it first came out. I think it was around 20 UKP at the time which was 1983.
I keep it wrapped up in a plastic bag which makes a lot of people smile curiously.
But I want to preserve the smell and pristine quality of it.
When I refer to it I am almost inclined to use a pair of white gloves like the ones the best of tv presenters wear when looking at historical documents and artefacts!
I also bought a copy of The Great Chronicle of London which one of my ancestors had a hand in. [Yorkist part of course!] A facsimile of the original it is very large, as was the price I seem to remember. I was doing well at the time thank goodness!!
Paul


On 11 Aug 2012, at 09:56, Karen Clark wrote:

> Looks like this will be going on my longish term wish list!
>
> Karen
>
> From: C HOLMES <christineholmes651@...>
> Reply-To: <>
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:57:22 +0100 (BST)
> To: ""
> <>
> Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
> III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all Richard lovers, I have the Coronation of Richard book and got it
> from Albris Books USA in Jan of this year, it cost about £89 and shipping
> as far as I can recall, a great deal less than Amazon anyway and well worth
> the purchase, it is fascinating.
> God Bless Richard
> Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

When I get around to getting my copy, I'll put it on the shelf with all the
other books.

Karen

From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:17:22 +0100
To: <>
Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond






I almost feel guilty to say I have a copy I bought when it first came out. I
think it was around 20 UKP at the time which was 1983.
I keep it wrapped up in a plastic bag which makes a lot of people smile
curiously.
But I want to preserve the smell and pristine quality of it.
When I refer to it I am almost inclined to use a pair of white gloves like
the ones the best of tv presenters wear when looking at historical documents
and artefacts!
I also bought a copy of The Great Chronicle of London which one of my
ancestors had a hand in. [Yorkist part of course!] A facsimile of the
original it is very large, as was the price I seem to remember. I was doing
well at the time thank goodness!!
Paul

On 11 Aug 2012, at 09:56, Karen Clark wrote:

> Looks like this will be going on my longish term wish list!
>
> Karen
>
> From: C HOLMES <christineholmes651@...
<mailto:christineholmes651%40btinternet.com> >
> Reply-To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:57:22 +0100 (BST)
> To: "
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> "
> <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
> III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all Richard lovers, I have the Coronation of Richard book and got it
> from Albris Books USA in Jan of this year, it cost about £89 and shipping
> as far as I can recall, a great deal less than Amazon anyway and well worth
> the purchase, it is fascinating.
> God Bless Richard
> Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

I think I'll stick to looking for something a little more realistic...

...like a 1st ed. of Cranmer's Bible :)

--- In , Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...> wrote:
>
> When I get around to getting my copy, I'll put it on the shelf with all the
> other books.
>
> Karen
>
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> Reply-To: <>
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:17:22 +0100
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
> III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I almost feel guilty to say I have a copy I bought when it first came out. I
> think it was around 20 UKP at the time which was 1983.
> I keep it wrapped up in a plastic bag which makes a lot of people smile
> curiously.
> But I want to preserve the smell and pristine quality of it.
> When I refer to it I am almost inclined to use a pair of white gloves like
> the ones the best of tv presenters wear when looking at historical documents
> and artefacts!
> I also bought a copy of The Great Chronicle of London which one of my
> ancestors had a hand in. [Yorkist part of course!] A facsimile of the
> original it is very large, as was the price I seem to remember. I was doing
> well at the time thank goodness!!
> Paul
>
> On 11 Aug 2012, at 09:56, Karen Clark wrote:
>
> > Looks like this will be going on my longish term wish list!
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > From: C HOLMES <christineholmes651@...
> <mailto:christineholmes651%40btinternet.com> >
> > Reply-To: <
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:57:22 +0100 (BST)
> > To: "
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> "
> > <
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
> > III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all Richard lovers, I have the Coronation of Richard book and got it
> > from Albris Books USA in Jan of this year, it cost about £89 and shipping
> > as far as I can recall, a great deal less than Amazon anyway and well worth
> > the purchase, it is fascinating.
> > God Bless Richard
> > Christine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

they aren't "that" expensive. bookfinder.com has copies listed for under $300 canadian, most are in the $250. range. now, there are some that are listed for over $1000. i picked up my copy for about $80. cdn a few years back. yes, it is a little worn and scuffed..but the info is in perfect shape.
 
so your purchase can be looked at as investment, or even the cost of an evening out for two. if you want it all glossy and having an untouched look. you pay for it. or if you just want functionality..the price goes down.
 
meanwhile, get to know a used book dealer in your area, and give them you list of most wanted books and ask them to keep an eye out for bargain prices.
 
let your friends and family know about which books you'd really like to own., it makes christmas, birthday or just because occassion shopping easier for them too.
 
and best of all..you can sometimes even find some the books you are looking for available for free on the net.
google books
and archive.org are a few my fav places to surf. pop in the author and/or title, you may get a pleasant surprise.
 
roslyn

--- On Sat, 8/11/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:


From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To:
Received: Saturday, August 11, 2012, 7:34 AM



 



I think I'll stick to looking for something a little more realistic...

...like a 1st ed. of Cranmer's Bible :)

--- In , Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...> wrote:
>
> When I get around to getting my copy, I'll put it on the shelf with all the
> other books.
>
> Karen
>
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> Reply-To: <>
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:17:22 +0100
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
> III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I almost feel guilty to say I have a copy I bought when it first came out. I
> think it was around 20 UKP at the time which was 1983.
> I keep it wrapped up in a plastic bag which makes a lot of people smile
> curiously.
> But I want to preserve the smell and pristine quality of it.
> When I refer to it I am almost inclined to use a pair of white gloves like
> the ones the best of tv presenters wear when looking at historical documents
> and artefacts!
> I also bought a copy of The Great Chronicle of London which one of my
> ancestors had a hand in. [Yorkist part of course!] A facsimile of the
> original it is very large, as was the price I seem to remember. I was doing
> well at the time thank goodness!!
> Paul
>
> On 11 Aug 2012, at 09:56, Karen Clark wrote:
>
> > Looks like this will be going on my longish term wish list!
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > From: C HOLMES <christineholmes651@...
> <mailto:christineholmes651%40btinternet.com> >
> > Reply-To: <
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:57:22 +0100 (BST)
> > To: "
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> "
> > <
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard
> > III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all Richard lovers, I have the Coronation of Richard book and got it
> > from Albris Books USA in Jan of this year, it cost about £89 and shipping
> > as far as I can recall, a great deal less than Amazon anyway and well worth
> > the purchase, it is fascinating.
> > God Bless Richard
> > Christine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).

No hassles! Thanks anyway
ed

--- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
>
> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
>  
> roslyn
>
> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> To:
> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
> >
>
>
>
>
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no problem..there are several references..so it could take me a while to scan the pages for the info.
there is also a url that i posted a few months back regarding e5 and his offical documents. perhaps annette has easy access to it. i'd have to scrounge for it.
 
i know it is either a google book or in archive.org
 
it is blasting hot here today. so i may get done fairly fast with coronation book look up. i can't finish siding the house or split stack the wood in this heat so i might as well bounce about some pages in a book..:-)

--- On Sun, 8/12/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:


From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To:
Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 10:16 AM



 



Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).

No hassles! Thanks anyway
ed

--- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
>
> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
>  
> roslyn
>
> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> To:
> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

i think i found what you wanted. here it is verbatim.
page 17 coronation
...10 may
...An indenture was made between Edward V and the Earl of Northumberland for the office of the warden of the East and Middle Marches for five months..note 36
 
note 36. See R.L.Storey, English Officers of State, 1399-1485, BIHR,31 (1958), 86. Grants, 2, 19-20. The Earl was, of course, still in the north. He was continued in this office under Richard III, CPR 1476-85, 462.
 
since that was so quick..i'll see if i can dig up the url for the grants of e5.

--- On Sun, 8/12/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:


From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To:
Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 10:16 AM



 



Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).

No hassles! Thanks anyway
ed

--- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
>
> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
>  
> roslyn
>
> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> To:
> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

here ya go..
http://books.google.ca/books?id=lyMIAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR11&lpg=PR11&dq=grants+%22edward+V%22&source=bl&ots=mMUlY4O9Qe&sig=3GqRrZkdbO1Zybskwu0-7D9uLBE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5DsoUPi-DMiriQL3xYC4Cw&ved=0CEsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=grants%20%22edward%20V%22&f=false
 
sorry i don't have access to
R.L.Storey, English Officers of State, 1399-1485, BIHR,31
 
you may be able to find it online, or perhaps with worldcat. it's catalogue of the assorted libraries around the world, and their holdings. good luck..there might be a copy in a university or public library near you.
 
http://www.worldcat.org/
 
roslyn


--- On Sun, 8/12/12, fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:


From: fayre rose <fayreroze@...>
Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To:
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i think i found what you wanted. here it is verbatim.
page 17 coronation
...10 may
...An indenture was made between Edward V and the Earl of Northumberland for the office of the warden of the East and Middle Marches for five months..note 36
 
note 36. See R.L.Storey, English Officers of State, 1399-1485, BIHR,31 (1958), 86. Grants, 2, 19-20. The Earl was, of course, still in the north. He was continued in this office under Richard III, CPR 1476-85, 462.
 
since that was so quick..i'll see if i can dig up the url for the grants of e5.

--- On Sun, 8/12/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:

From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To:
Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 10:16 AM

 

Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).

No hassles! Thanks anyway
ed

--- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
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> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
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> roslyn
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> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
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> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> To:
> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
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> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
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does anyone know what's happening about the dig in Leicester ?


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From: fayre rose <fayreroze@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond


 
here ya go..
http://books.google.ca/books?id=lyMIAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR11&lpg=PR11&dq=grants+%22edward+V%22&source=bl&ots=mMUlY4O9Qe&sig=3GqRrZkdbO1Zybskwu0-7D9uLBE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5DsoUPi-DMiriQL3xYC4Cw&ved=0CEsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=grants%20%22edward%20V%22&f=false
 
sorry i don't have access to
R.L.Storey, English Officers of State, 1399-1485, BIHR,31
 
you may be able to find it online, or perhaps with worldcat. it's catalogue of the assorted libraries around the world, and their holdings. good luck..there might be a copy in a university or public library near you.
 
http://www.worldcat.org/
 
roslyn

--- On Sun, 8/12/12, fayre rose <mailto:fayreroze%40yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: fayre rose <mailto:fayreroze%40yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 7:21 PM

 

i think i found what you wanted. here it is verbatim.
page 17 coronation
...10 may
...An indenture was made between Edward V and the Earl of Northumberland for the office of the warden of the East and Middle Marches for five months..note 36
 
note 36. See R.L.Storey, English Officers of State, 1399-1485, BIHR,31 (1958), 86. Grants, 2, 19-20. The Earl was, of course, still in the north. He was continued in this office under Richard III, CPR 1476-85, 462.
 
since that was so quick..i'll see if i can dig up the url for the grants of e5.

--- On Sun, 8/12/12, blancsanglier1452 <mailto:blancsanglier1452%40yahoo.com> wrote:

From: blancsanglier1452 <mailto:blancsanglier1452%40yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 10:16 AM

 

Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).

No hassles! Thanks anyway
ed

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
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> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
>  
> roslyn
>
> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
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> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
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> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
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> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
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Annette- THANKS.

Re: that source, for any others who want details on the London records, here's a .pdf of the London Met. Archives pamphlet on their collections:

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/archives-and-city-history/london-metropolitan-archives/Documents/visitor-information/13-the-court-of-common-council.pdf

Thanks again!
Ed

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
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> Hi - I believe you are looking for this book for research purposes. If you don't actually need to own it, you'll find it in several libraries. I don't know if you're in the UK, or if you are a member of the Richard III Society, but it's in the Society's Barton Library from which members in this country are able to borrow free of charge in return for paying postage costs. The British Library is another obvious source, but if you don't already have a card it's a bit of a rigmarole to get one for just this one book. The London Library has a copy, and is brilliant because you can consult any number of books on open shelves in one visit and conveniently take scans or photocopies. They do one-day tickets for £15 and the application procedure is very simple. You can search their catalogue online.
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> If you want to buy it, you can only get second-hand copies. I did a quick search and found that the Amazon price is not the most competitive. Type 'booksearch' into Google and you'll find a number of companies that find books to order - there are some better prices available.
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> I believe you also wanted to ask me something about a source - I suggest you contact me directly, my email address is emailATannettecarson.plus.com (substitute @ for AT, of course).
> Regards, Annette
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blancsanglier1452
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
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> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
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> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
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Harleian is probably your best bet. I think the Society site has it available on line.
Paul

On 12 Aug 2012, at 15:16, blancsanglier1452 wrote:

> Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).
>
> No hassles! Thanks anyway
> ed
>
> --- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@...> wrote:
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>> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
>> Â
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>> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
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>> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
>> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>> To:
>> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
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>>
>> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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>>> ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
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Richard Liveth Yet!

Thanks Paul, iit's not as necessary as I thought. But is the Soc. Shop still open?

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
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> Harleian is probably your best bet. I think the Society site has it available on line.
> Paul
>
> On 12 Aug 2012, at 15:16, blancsanglier1452 wrote:
>
> > Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).
> >
> > No hassles! Thanks anyway
> > ed
> >
> > --- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@> wrote:
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> >> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
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> >> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> >> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@>
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> >> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
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> >> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> >>> ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
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Carole...I think the funds have now been found and the dig will start in August sometime hopefully....

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/07/19/king-richard-needs-you-urgent-archaeology-appeal-till-july-20th-2012/

Eileen

--- In , carole jenkins <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
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> does anyone know what's happening about the dig in Leicester ?
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> From: fayre rose <fayreroze@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>
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>  
> here ya go..
> http://books.google.ca/books?id=lyMIAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR11&lpg=PR11&dq=grants+%22edward+V%22&source=bl&ots=mMUlY4O9Qe&sig=3GqRrZkdbO1Zybskwu0-7D9uLBE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5DsoUPi-DMiriQL3xYC4Cw&ved=0CEsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=grants%20%22edward%20V%22&f=false
>  
> sorry i don't have access to
> R.L.Storey, English Officers of State, 1399-1485, BIHR,31
>  
> you may be able to find it online, or perhaps with worldcat. it's catalogue of the assorted libraries around the world, and their holdings. good luck..there might be a copy in a university or public library near you.
>  
> http://www.worldcat.org/
>  
> roslyn
>
> --- On Sun, 8/12/12, fayre rose <mailto:fayreroze%40yahoo.ca> wrote:
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> From: fayre rose <mailto:fayreroze%40yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 7:21 PM
>
>  
>
> i think i found what you wanted. here it is verbatim.
> page 17 coronation
> ...10 may
> ...An indenture was made between Edward V and the Earl of Northumberland for the office of the warden of the East and Middle Marches for five months..note 36
>  
> note 36. See R.L.Storey, English Officers of State, 1399-1485, BIHR,31 (1958), 86. Grants, 2, 19-20. The Earl was, of course, still in the north. He was continued in this office under Richard III, CPR 1476-85, 462.
>  
> since that was so quick..i'll see if i can dig up the url for the grants of e5.
>
> --- On Sun, 8/12/12, blancsanglier1452 <mailto:blancsanglier1452%40yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: blancsanglier1452 <mailto:blancsanglier1452%40yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 10:16 AM
>
>  
>
> Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).
>
> No hassles! Thanks anyway
> ed
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, fayre rose <fayreroze@> wrote:
> >
> > i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
> >  
> > roslyn
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
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> > From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@>
> > Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
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> > PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
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Yes it is. By mail order of course!
Paul

On 13 Aug 2012, at 13:28, blancsanglier1452 wrote:

> Thanks Paul, iit's not as necessary as I thought. But is the Soc. Shop still open?
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>>
>> Harleian is probably your best bet. I think the Society site has it available on line.
>> Paul
>>
>> On 12 Aug 2012, at 15:16, blancsanglier1452 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).
>>>
>>> No hassles! Thanks anyway
>>> ed
>>>
>>> --- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
>>>> Â
>>>> roslyn
>>>>
>>>> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
>>>>
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>>>> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@>
>>>> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
>>>> To:
>>>> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
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>>>> PS: just to explain, it's because I'm doing a thing on Richard in London in April 1483, and Caroline Barron references the work in her London in the Later Middle Ages: Government and People 1200-1500' (Oxford 2004) well I daresay she can afford to re-mortgae for a copy of it?! >Jest, apologies.
>>>>
>>>> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
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Thanks, thought iit might have closed; I emailed a bit of an order a week ago but not heard back yet.
Cheers mate.

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
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> Yes it is. By mail order of course!
> Paul
>
> On 13 Aug 2012, at 13:28, blancsanglier1452 wrote:
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> > Thanks Paul, iit's not as necessary as I thought. But is the Soc. Shop still open?
> >
> > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Harleian is probably your best bet. I think the Society site has it available on line.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> On 12 Aug 2012, at 15:16, blancsanglier1452 wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Roslyn, appreciate the offer! I'm just looking for anything I can get hold on the specific period of the Protectorate, but three months is a long time. Has it got anything on the Indenture betwee Edward V & the earl of Northumberland? May 10th 1483 I think (...there might have been two).
> >>>
> >>> No hassles! Thanks anyway
> >>> ed
> >>>
> >>> --- In , fayre rose <fayreroze@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> i have a copy of this book, if you would like a look up.
> >>>> Â
> >>>> roslyn
> >>>>
> >>>> --- On Thu, 8/9/12, blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@>
> >>>> Subject: Re: 'The Coronation of Richard III' -A. Sutton / P. Hammond
> >>>> To:
> >>>> Received: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 4:15 PM
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> >>>> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ...just to pick some brains, am I right in assuming that this is SERIOUSLY O.O.P?!?! I see it's not in the Society shop and the Amazon prices are mildly eye-watering to say the least! Blimey, it's like powdered unicorn horn... ;)
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