Richard III found?

Richard III found?

2012-09-14 15:03:15
HI
Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king

A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.

LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.

Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.

The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.

This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.

The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.

Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.

This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.

Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.

The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 15:23:51
vermeertwo
It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.

--- In , "HI" <hi.dung@...> wrote:
>
> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
>
> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
>
> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
>
> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
>
> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
>
> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
>
> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
>
> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
>
> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
>
> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
>
> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 15:42:01
vermeertwo
Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?

--- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@...> wrote:
>
> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
>
> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >
> > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> >
> > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> >
> > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> >
> > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> >
> > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> >
> > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> >
> > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> >
> > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> >
> > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> >
> > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> >
> > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 15:46:23
Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
No - its not in a ditch - but in near the choir of the monastery ! So no it
doesnt fit at all!!

On 14 September 2012 11:41, vermeertwo <hi.dung@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was
> buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
>
> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better
> send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> >
> > --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > >
> > > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th
> Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > >
> > > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton
> found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the
> medieval king Richard III.
> > >
> > > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a
> male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who
> ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > >
> > > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis.
> What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the
> university's director of corporate affairs.
> > >
> > > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive
> further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > >
> > > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of
> Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in
> its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries
> received in battle.
> > >
> > > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play
> by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback,
> it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear
> visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > >
> > > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance.
> The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed
> to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered
> beneath the car park.
> > >
> > > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of
> Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485,
> but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost
> until now.
> > >
> > > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best
> areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use
> DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne
> of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12
> weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA
> testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being
> analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > >
> >
>
>
>



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Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 15:57:25
b.eileen25
Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen

--- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@...> wrote:
>
> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
>
> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> >
> > --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > >
> > > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > >
> > > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > >
> > > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > >
> > > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > >
> > > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > >
> > > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > >
> > > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > >
> > > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > >
> > > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > >
> > > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > >
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 16:09:12
vermeertwo
The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?

--- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
>
> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >
> > Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> >
> > --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> > >
> > > --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > > >
> > > > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > > >
> > > > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > > >
> > > > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > > >
> > > > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > > >
> > > > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > > >
> > > > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > > >
> > > > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > > >
> > > > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > > >
> > > > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > > >
> > > > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 16:20:10
EileenB
Now you could be right there...maybe he had over-imbibed a tad...But I should imagine this was true of most of the population...ale being the main drink of the time...I should imagine most people were permanently sloshed....eileen

--- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@...> wrote:
>
> The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
>
> --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
> >
> > --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> > >
> > > --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > > > >
> > > > > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > > > >
> > > > > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > > > >
> > > > > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > > > >
> > > > > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > > > >
> > > > > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > > > >
> > > > > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > > > >
> > > > > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 18:35:13
Paul Trevor Bale
He would only know about the scoliosis, please stop calling it crookbacked, if he had seen him stripped to the waist, highly unlikley.
Paul

On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:09, vermeertwo wrote:

> The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
>
> --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
>>
>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
>>>
>>> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
>>>
>>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
>>>>
>>>> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
>>>>>
>>>>> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
>>>>>
>>>>> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
>>>>>
>>>>> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
>>>>>
>>>>> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
>>>>>
>>>>> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
>>>>>
>>>>> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
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Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 18:48:48
EileenB
OR he could have had X-ray vision....

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> He would only know about the scoliosis, please stop calling it crookbacked, if he had seen him stripped to the waist, highly unlikley.
> Paul
>
> On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:09, vermeertwo wrote:
>
> > The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
> >
> > --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
> >>
> >> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> >>>
> >>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> >>>>>
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> >>>
> >>
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> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 19:11:56
Louise
As the owner of a back with scoliosis I call it curly back lol

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> He would only know about the scoliosis, please stop calling it crookbacked, if he had seen him stripped to the waist, highly unlikley.
> Paul
>
> On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:09, vermeertwo wrote:
>
> > The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
> >
> > --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
> >>
> >> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> >>>
> >>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 20:02:56
oregon\_katy
Hello, again, vermeertwo and hi-dung (are you the same person?)-- out from under the bridge and trying to stir the pot again, I see.

What sort of container, for lack of a better word, were the remains found in? In one photo of the dig I see what appears to be the end of a rectangular carved stone object that makes me think of a sarcophagus but there is no mention of what it is in what I have read.

Kay



--- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@...> wrote:
>
> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
>
> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> >
> > --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > >
> > > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > >
> > > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > >
> > > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > >
> > > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > >
> > > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > >
> > > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > >
> > > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > >
> > > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > >
> > > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > >
> > > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > >
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 20:25:14
EileenB
Louise...do you suffer from backache...on a regular basis...? Eileen

--- In , "Louise" <louise@...> wrote:
>
> As the owner of a back with scoliosis I call it curly back lol
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > He would only know about the scoliosis, please stop calling it crookbacked, if he had seen him stripped to the waist, highly unlikley.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:09, vermeertwo wrote:
> >
> > > The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
> > >
> > > --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
> > >>
> > >> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 20:27:17
b.eileen25
Hi Kay...I understand Richard was buried in a shroud...no coffin....Im sure that was what I read....Eileen

--- In , "oregon_katy" <oregon_katy@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello, again, vermeertwo and hi-dung (are you the same person?)-- out from under the bridge and trying to stir the pot again, I see.
>
> What sort of container, for lack of a better word, were the remains found in? In one photo of the dig I see what appears to be the end of a rectangular carved stone object that makes me think of a sarcophagus but there is no mention of what it is in what I have read.
>
> Kay
>
>
>
> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >
> > Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> >
> > --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> > >
> > > --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > > >
> > > > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > > >
> > > > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > > >
> > > > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > > >
> > > > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > > >
> > > > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > > >
> > > > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > > >
> > > > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > > >
> > > > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > > >
> > > > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > > >
> > > > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 21:12:32
Louise
Eileen
Yes I suffer regular back pain - visit a cinema and I'm in agony because I can't sit comfortably.
I play competitive online poker and have to sit bolt upright - if I slump it gets worse.
Louise
--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Louise...do you suffer from backache...on a regular basis...? Eileen
>
> --- In , "Louise" <louise@> wrote:
> >
> > As the owner of a back with scoliosis I call it curly back lol
> >
> > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> > >
> > > He would only know about the scoliosis, please stop calling it crookbacked, if he had seen him stripped to the waist, highly unlikley.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:09, vermeertwo wrote:
> > >
> > > > The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Richard Liveth Yet!
> > >
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-14 21:27:15
EileenB
Sorry to hear that Louise..backpain can be very debilitating...Eileen

--- In , "Louise" <louise@...> wrote:
>
>
> Eileen
> Yes I suffer regular back pain - visit a cinema and I'm in agony because I can't sit comfortably.
> I play competitive online poker and have to sit bolt upright - if I slump it gets worse.
> Louise
> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Louise...do you suffer from backache...on a regular basis...? Eileen
> >
> > --- In , "Louise" <louise@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As the owner of a back with scoliosis I call it curly back lol
> > >
> > > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > He would only know about the scoliosis, please stop calling it crookbacked, if he had seen him stripped to the waist, highly unlikley.
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:09, vermeertwo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard Liveth Yet!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-15 10:48:45
Paul Trevor Bale
Really weird coincidence. I put on the tv last night to watch a programme I had recorded from the night before. It had started with the last ten minutes of a programme about a lady with scoliosis. You could see nothing when she was dressed, and a curvature when she wasn't. She said the main effect on her was she got easily tired. She had a successful operation to straighten her spine out.
Paul


On 14 Sep 2012, at 19:11, Louise wrote:

> As the owner of a back with scoliosis I call it curly back lol
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>>
>> He would only know about the scoliosis, please stop calling it crookbacked, if he had seen him stripped to the waist, highly unlikley.
>> Paul
>>
>> On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:09, vermeertwo wrote:
>>
>>> The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
>>>
>>> --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
>>>>
>>>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

Re: Richard III found?

2012-09-15 13:48:56
vermeertwo
Ale is the drink of Satan and should be left alone. Hic!

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Now you could be right there...maybe he had over-imbibed a tad...But I should imagine this was true of most of the population...ale being the main drink of the time...I should imagine most people were permanently sloshed....eileen
>
> --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> >
> > The crookback bit agrees with the skeleton. The 1486 bloke may've got the ditch part wrong. Maybe too much ale or he thought a grey friar's chapel in Leicester too obscure to be rated highly?
> >
> > --- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah!..of course!..I can spot the similarity with someone being buried in a ditch..(and dont forget the bit about like a dog)...and buried in the choir of an abbey....It makes so much sense...Not...Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Didn't someone say in York in 1486 that Richard was a crookback and he was buried in a ditch? Doesn't this fit in with the skeleton found?
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "vermeertwo" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems that Richard's remains have been found. He deserves a better send off than the one he's had since 1485.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , "HI" <hi.dung@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bones found at English car park may belong to medieval king
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century is seen at the National Portrait Gallery in London.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LONDON British archaeologists announced on Wednesday that a skeleton found under a city center car park in central England could be that of the medieval king Richard III.
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> > > > > > Researchers from the University of Leicester said they had found a male skeleton with similarities to historical descriptions of Richard, who ruled England between 1483 and his death in battle in 1485.
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> > > > > > The remains, which are well preserved, are undergoing DNA analysis. What we have uncovered is truly remarkable, said Richard Taylor, the university's director of corporate affairs.
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> > > > > > This skeleton certainly has characteristics that warrant extensive further detailed examination, he told a press conference.
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> > > > > > The team, which has been excavating a car park in the city of Leicester for three weeks, said the skeleton had an arrow-head embedded in its back and had received blows to the skull consistent with injuries received in battle.
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> > > > > > Today, Richard III is best known as the hunchbacked villain of a play by William Shakespeare and while the skeleton is not that of a hunchback, it does have a curved spine. This would have made his right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left shoulder, said Taylor.
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> > > > > > This is consistent with contemporary accounts of Richard's appearance. The bones were found in what was once the choir area of a church believed to be the king's resting place, which the archaeologists have uncovered beneath the car park.
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> > > > > > Richard is thought to have been buried at the Franciscan friary of Grey Friars in Leicester after his death in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, but the church was demolished in the 1530s and its location had been lost until now.
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> > > > > > The team used ground-penetrating radar equipment to pinpoint the best areas of the car park to begin the search. Taylor said the team will use DNA from a man who is a direct descendant of Richard's eldest sister, Anne of York, to try to get a match. The process is expected to take up to 12 weeks. We have sent the remains off to the laboratory for analysis. DNA testing will take between eight and 12 weeks and the remains are being analyzed as we speak,. said Taylor.
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