Newest media blunders

Here's a new blunder for you all. CBS, a major U.S. TV station, reported this morning (finally!) on the archaeological discovery at Leicester, mentioning Shakespeare, of course, but they added this bit of "information" to the media mess: "King Richard died at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, marking the end of of Plantagenet rule and giving way to the dynasty of the House of *Windsor," which encompassed the reign of the infamous Henry VIII." That would be news to Henry, I think. At least they referred to Henry VIII (not (VII) as "infamous."

The accompanying video quotes Philippa Langley out of context to illustrate Richard's "bad press" (hunchback, withered arm, etc.) but cuts her off before she says that these attributes are part of the myth. The video ends with the newscasters laughing about how honored (or intrigued) Ibsen must feel to be related to Richard.

Here's a link for anyone who's interested:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57518736/dna-tests-on-possible-remains-of-king-richard-iii/

Carol

This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning. It highlights cultural news over political. A perfect venue, if properly handled, for a segment on Richard and the Society, actually, as the story of the Leicester dig, combined with the Society's work and mission statement, seems the very sort of "high toned" material they generally cover with some adroitness (and minimalized sensationalism). 

The show has several female correspondents who project both the requisite gravitas and a sense of compassion in their subjects. One in particular, though at this moment her name escapes me...an older, dark-haired woman with a very reassuring voice, both authoritative and motherly. Not Martha Raddatz, but ______. Tip of my tongue.

Does anyone know anyone at CBS?

Judy 
 
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From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:17 AM
Subject: Newest media blunders


 
Here's a new blunder for you all. CBS, a major U.S. TV station, reported this morning (finally!) on the archaeological discovery at Leicester, mentioning Shakespeare, of course, but they added this bit of "information" to the media mess: "King Richard died at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, marking the end of of Plantagenet rule and giving way to the dynasty of the House of *Windsor," which encompassed the reign of the infamous Henry VIII." That would be news to Henry, I think. At least they referred to Henry VIII (not (VII) as "infamous."

The accompanying video quotes Philippa Langley out of context to illustrate Richard's "bad press" (hunchback, withered arm, etc.) but cuts her off before she says that these attributes are part of the myth. The video ends with the newscasters laughing about how honored (or intrigued) Ibsen must feel to be related to Richard.

Here's a link for anyone who's interested:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57518736/dna-tests-on-possible-remains-of-king-richard-iii/

Carol

No, but I agree that *Sunday Morning* would be an appropriate forum to clear the air about Richard and spread the word about the excavations and the Society, etc. In general I find CBS much more mature and thoughtful  and interesting  than the other networks. I am surprised they aired that drecky report! I wonder where they got it??



TTFN J



Johanne



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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:09 PM
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This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning. It highlights cultural news over political. A perfect venue, if properly handled, for a segment on Richard and the Society, actually, as the story of the Leicester dig, combined with the Society's work and mission statement, seems the very sort of "high toned" material they generally cover with some adroitness (and minimalized sensationalism).

The show has several female correspondents who project both the requisite gravitas and a sense of compassion in their subjects. One in particular, though at this moment her name escapes me...an older, dark-haired woman with a very reassuring voice, both authoritative and motherly. Not Martha Raddatz, but ______. Tip of my tongue.

Does anyone know anyone at CBS?

Judy

Loyaulte me lie

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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:17 AM
Subject: Newest media blunders



Here's a new blunder for you all. CBS, a major U.S. TV station, reported this morning (finally!) on the archaeological discovery at Leicester, mentioning Shakespeare, of course, but they added this bit of "information" to the media mess: "King Richard died at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, marking the end of of Plantagenet rule and giving way to the dynasty of the House of *Windsor," which encompassed the reign of the infamous Henry VIII." That would be news to Henry, I think. At least they referred to Henry VIII (not (VII) as "infamous."

The accompanying video quotes Philippa Langley out of context to illustrate Richard's "bad press" (hunchback, withered arm, etc.) but cuts her off before she says that these attributes are part of the myth. The video ends with the newscasters laughing about how honored (or intrigued) Ibsen must feel to be related to Richard.

Here's a link for anyone who's interested:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57518736/dna-tests-on-possible-remains-of-king-richard-iii/

Carol

On UK BBC TV a comedy/satirical programme called "Mock The Week" featured an item on the discovery, and the 6 comedians all went into paroxysms of laughter as they did impressions of Olivier doing the play, mixing it in with Star Wars and other such nonsense. I sat stony faced throughout until one of the guys in a quiet voice said 'but he was actually a good guy, one of our best kings', but the impressions continued unabated. Good on you Hugh Dennis!
Paul


On 24 Sep 2012, at 16:17, justcarol67 wrote:

> Here's a new blunder for you all. CBS, a major U.S. TV station, reported this morning (finally!) on the archaeological discovery at Leicester, mentioning Shakespeare, of course, but they added this bit of "information" to the media mess: "King Richard died at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, marking the end of of Plantagenet rule and giving way to the dynasty of the House of *Windsor," which encompassed the reign of the infamous Henry VIII." That would be news to Henry, I think. At least they referred to Henry VIII (not (VII) as "infamous."
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> The accompanying video quotes Philippa Langley out of context to illustrate Richard's "bad press" (hunchback, withered arm, etc.) but cuts her off before she says that these attributes are part of the myth. The video ends with the newscasters laughing about how honored (or intrigued) Ibsen must feel to be related to Richard.
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> Here's a link for anyone who's interested:
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> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57518736/dna-tests-on-possible-remains-of-king-richard-iii/
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> Carol
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Richard Liveth Yet!

...although with CBS's apparent inability to understand the slightest thing date-related... I'm surprised it doesn't go out on Wednesday evening!!!

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
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> This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning.
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>

The different programmes, though under the umbrella of CBS News, have different producers, etc. This is the same network that hosts 6o Minutes.
 
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:31 AM
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...although with CBS's apparent inability to understand the slightest thing date-related... I'm surprised it doesn't go out on Wednesday evening!!!

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
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> This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning.
>
>
>

Judy Thomson wrote:
>
> This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning. It highlights cultural news over political. A perfect venue, if properly handled, for a segment on Richard and the Society, actually, as the story of the Leicester dig, combined with the Society's work and mission statement, seems the very sort of "high toned" material they generally cover with some adroitness (and minimalized sensationalism). 
>
> The show has several female correspondents who project both the requisite gravitas and a sense of compassion in their subjects. One in particular, though at this moment her name escapes me...an older, dark-haired woman with a very reassuring voice, both authoritative and motherly. Not Martha Raddatz, but ______. Tip of my tongue.

Carol responds:

I think you mean Martha Teichner: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500499_162-13644/martha-teichner/

A "Sunday Morning" segment about the RIII Society is a wonderful idea (though maybe Mark Phillips ought to do it as a penance!). At the very least, they owe Philippa Langley an apology for taking her remarks out of context. You can see from the video that the two reporters at home took them at face value, and so would most viewers, I think, even though the point was supposed to be that Richard received "bad press."

It would probably be most effective if Philippa herself made the request for a "Sunday Morning" segment (and viewed it herself before it aired to make sure that it didn't contain any more blunders or out-of-context quotations). And she would need to make sure that they didn't send Bill Geist, who usually narrates comic segments about eccentric groups and people. Annette, can you call her attention to it? I'd be interested in her reaction to being made a spokeswoman for Shakespeare's Richard.

"Sunday Morning" has a large audience and would be a great way to introduce people to the real king and to the various controversies--and to clear up that business about a raised shoulder being the same as a hunchback.

Carol

Yes, Martha T. Thanks! And yes, Philippa would be the best intermediary, no doubt, as I'm sure she's well accustomed to approaching those who've "done her wrong," and getting a positive result.

It wouldn't hurt if those of us in the US nudge CBS to cover the story on Sunday Morning, as well. Not as penance for their transgressions (which are best left unmentioned) but just as a Really Good Idea, well-suited to the programme. In fact, an appropriate Yorkist Sun might be submitted.... They readily accept these from their audience, and use one at the end of each segment they air.

Maybe Geoffrey Wheeler could design a Show Stopper?

Judy
 
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From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Newest media blunders/"Sunday Morning" TV program


 
Judy Thomson wrote:
>
> This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning. It highlights cultural news over political. A perfect venue, if properly handled, for a segment on Richard and the Society, actually, as the story of the Leicester dig, combined with the Society's work and mission statement, seems the very sort of "high toned" material they generally cover with some adroitness (and minimalized sensationalism). 
>
> The show has several female correspondents who project both the requisite gravitas and a sense of compassion in their subjects. One in particular, though at this moment her name escapes me...an older, dark-haired woman with a very reassuring voice, both authoritative and motherly. Not Martha Raddatz, but ______. Tip of my tongue.

Carol responds:

I think you mean Martha Teichner: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500499_162-13644/martha-teichner/

A "Sunday Morning" segment about the RIII Society is a wonderful idea (though maybe Mark Phillips ought to do it as a penance!). At the very least, they owe Philippa Langley an apology for taking her remarks out of context. You can see from the video that the two reporters at home took them at face value, and so would most viewers, I think, even though the point was supposed to be that Richard received "bad press."

It would probably be most effective if Philippa herself made the request for a "Sunday Morning" segment (and viewed it herself before it aired to make sure that it didn't contain any more blunders or out-of-context quotations). And she would need to make sure that they didn't send Bill Geist, who usually narrates comic segments about eccentric groups and people. Annette, can you call her attention to it? I'd be interested in her reaction to being made a spokeswoman for Shakespeare's Richard.

"Sunday Morning" has a large audience and would be a great way to introduce people to the real king and to the various controversies--and to clear up that business about a raised shoulder being the same as a hunchback.

Carol

To Judy and Carol, I passed on your thoughts to Philippa Langley and she responded as follows:
"Would you please thank Carol and the guys on the forum for alerting me to this piece and for also responding to it - I thought Carol's response was knockout! I too have contacted CBS about it" .... Philippa has requested an apology together with airing of the full video of her statement, unedited, or alternatively an interview enabling her to put forward her opinions properly. Thanks for being on the ball and letting Philippa have the chance to pick up on this ...
Regards, Annette


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From: justcarol67
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Newest media blunders/"Sunday Morning" TV program



Judy Thomson wrote:
>
> This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning. It highlights cultural news over political. A perfect venue, if properly handled, for a segment on Richard and the Society, actually, as the story of the Leicester dig, combined with the Society's work and mission statement, seems the very sort of "high toned" material they generally cover with some adroitness (and minimalized sensationalism).Â
>
> The show has several female correspondents who project both the requisite gravitas and a sense of compassion in their subjects. One in particular, though at this moment her name escapes me...an older, dark-haired woman with a very reassuring voice, both authoritative and motherly. Not Martha Raddatz, but ______. Tip of my tongue.

Carol responds:

I think you mean Martha Teichner: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500499_162-13644/martha-teichner/

A "Sunday Morning" segment about the RIII Society is a wonderful idea (though maybe Mark Phillips ought to do it as a penance!). At the very least, they owe Philippa Langley an apology for taking her remarks out of context. You can see from the video that the two reporters at home took them at face value, and so would most viewers, I think, even though the point was supposed to be that Richard received "bad press."

It would probably be most effective if Philippa herself made the request for a "Sunday Morning" segment (and viewed it herself before it aired to make sure that it didn't contain any more blunders or out-of-context quotations). And she would need to make sure that they didn't send Bill Geist, who usually narrates comic segments about eccentric groups and people. Annette, can you call her attention to it? I'd be interested in her reaction to being made a spokeswoman for Shakespeare's Richard.

"Sunday Morning" has a large audience and would be a great way to introduce people to the real king and to the various controversies--and to clear up that business about a raised shoulder being the same as a hunchback.

Carol

The bad news may turn out to be good, in the end. Thanks, Annette (and Philippa)

Judy
 
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From: Annette Carson <email@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Newest media blunders/"Sunday Morning" TV program


 
To Judy and Carol, I passed on your thoughts to Philippa Langley and she responded as follows:
"Would you please thank Carol and the guys on the forum for alerting me to this piece and for also responding to it - I thought Carol's response was knockout! I too have contacted CBS about it" .... Philippa has requested an apology together with airing of the full video of her statement, unedited, or alternatively an interview enabling her to put forward her opinions properly. Thanks for being on the ball and letting Philippa have the chance to pick up on this ...
Regards, Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: justcarol67
To:
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Newest media blunders/"Sunday Morning" TV program

Judy Thomson wrote:
>
> This might be worthy of some polite correspondence with CBS to open a dialogue. Every Sunday morning, CBS hosts a 90-minute programme aptly titled Sunday Morning. It highlights cultural news over political. A perfect venue, if properly handled, for a segment on Richard and the Society, actually, as the story of the Leicester dig, combined with the Society's work and mission statement, seems the very sort of "high toned" material they generally cover with some adroitness (and minimalized sensationalism).Â
>
> The show has several female correspondents who project both the requisite gravitas and a sense of compassion in their subjects. One in particular, though at this moment her name escapes me...an older, dark-haired woman with a very reassuring voice, both authoritative and motherly. Not Martha Raddatz, but ______. Tip of my tongue.

Carol responds:

I think you mean Martha Teichner: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500499_162-13644/martha-teichner/

A "Sunday Morning" segment about the RIII Society is a wonderful idea (though maybe Mark Phillips ought to do it as a penance!). At the very least, they owe Philippa Langley an apology for taking her remarks out of context. You can see from the video that the two reporters at home took them at face value, and so would most viewers, I think, even though the point was supposed to be that Richard received "bad press."

It would probably be most effective if Philippa herself made the request for a "Sunday Morning" segment (and viewed it herself before it aired to make sure that it didn't contain any more blunders or out-of-context quotations). And she would need to make sure that they didn't send Bill Geist, who usually narrates comic segments about eccentric groups and people. Annette, can you call her attention to it? I'd be interested in her reaction to being made a spokeswoman for Shakespeare's Richard.

"Sunday Morning" has a large audience and would be a great way to introduce people to the real king and to the various controversies--and to clear up that business about a raised shoulder being the same as a hunchback.

Carol

--- In , "Annette Carson" <email@...> wrote:
>
> To Judy and Carol, I passed on your thoughts to Philippa Langley and she responded as follows:
> "Would you please thank Carol and the guys on the forum for alerting me to this piece and for also responding to it - I thought Carol's response was knockout! I too have contacted CBS about it" .... Philippa has requested an apology together with airing of the full video of her statement, unedited, or alternatively an interview enabling her to put forward her opinions properly. Thanks for being on the ball and letting Philippa have the chance to pick up on this ...
> Regards, Annette

Carol responds:

Hooray! I've accomplished something (maybe). Thank you both. And you're welcome. I'm delighted that Philippa liked my email message to CBS (in which I borrowed Judy's lovely idea [thanks, Judy!] of a "Sunday Morning" segment by Martha Teichner) and even more delighted that Philippa has contacted CBS. She certainly deserves an apology and a fair airing of her views at the very least.

I really hope that this idea works out.

Carol