What if these were Medieval times?

What if these were Medieval times?

This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.

Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.

In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.

It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.

When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.

Gary
____________

Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:

You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)

Judy

Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
Subject: What if these were Medieval times?


 
What if these were Medieval times?

This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.

Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.

In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.

It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.

When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.

Gary
____________

Also, if you accept some of the current theoretical physics, our universe is one of a multiverse reality, and time may advance differently in each. (Brian Greene does a pretty good job of explaining some of this, and his books are fairly accessible to the non-science reader.)

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
Subject: What if these were Medieval times?


 
What if these were Medieval times?

This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.

Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.

In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.

It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.

When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.

Gary
____________

Depends which Caesar you are talking about of course ;)

But good joke, if as I guess you refer to young Julius! :D

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
>
> You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
>
> Judy
>
> Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
>
>
>  
> What if these were Medieval times?
>
> This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
>
> Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
>
> In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
>
> It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
>
> When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
>
>
>
>
>

Judy,

I've read speculation that the Royals claim to be an extension of the old Roman empire. The color I've always seen associated with the Roman soldier was red. At the palace it's still the same.

(???)

Gary
___________


--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
>
> You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
>
> Judy
>
> Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
>
>
>  
> What if these were Medieval times?
>
> This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
>
> Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
>
> In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
>
> It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
>
> When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
>
>
>
>
>

It's the "B.C." that gives it away, of course. Usually the story is related with lots of otherwise accurate detail....

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?


 
Depends which Caesar you are talking about of course ;)

But good joke, if as I guess you refer to young Julius! :D

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
>
> You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
>
> Judy
>
> Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
>
>
>  
> What if these were Medieval times?
>
> This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
>
> Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
>
> In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
>
> It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
>
> When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
>
>
>
>
>

Judy: You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know?

This may have been possible provided we're speaking exclusively of the "B.C." mark. But there is said to be an oracle of Greece who did predict Christ's birth and thus A.D. ("in the year of our Lord"). She was spoken of in early churches and given respect. I cannot say the prediction was in fact but reported on a History Channel episode.

Gary
________


--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> Depends which Caesar you are talking about of course ;)
>
> But good joke, if as I guess you refer to young Julius! :D
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
> >
> > You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> > Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> >
> >  
> > What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> >
> > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> >
> > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> >
> > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> >
> > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Judy,

Knowing it was the year 14 would also have been a miracle.

Gary
_________



--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> It's the "B.C." that gives it away, of course. Usually the story is related with lots of otherwise accurate detail....
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?
>
>
>  
> Depends which Caesar you are talking about of course ;)
>
> But good joke, if as I guess you refer to young Julius! :D
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
> >
> > You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> > Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> >
> >  
> > What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> >
> > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> >
> > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> >
> > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> >
> > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Red was symbolic of Mars, god of war. When a Roman general returned to Rome, if he were granted a "triumph" he sometimes painted his face and hands this colour. "Mars for a Day." A good, deep red, not unlike blue and violet, was lfor a long time harder to achieve in dyed stuffs, and I've heard medieval red glass required gold to make. It would be among colours denied to people of low estate by Sumptuary Law, because it was technically expensive to produce. Indeed, red was associated with gold; we get hints of this in places unexpected - the Corpus Christi Carol, for example:

"...and in that hold (hall) there standeth a bed
Which is all hanged with gold so red..."

Officially, the royal colours were Murrey (mulberry) and Azure (royal blue) with gold.

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?


 
Judy,

I've read speculation that the Royals claim to be an extension of the old Roman empire. The color I've always seen associated with the Roman soldier was red. At the palace it's still the same.

(???)

Gary
___________

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
>
> You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
>
> Judy
>
> Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
>
>
>  
> What if these were Medieval times?
>
> This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
>
> Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
>
> In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
>
> It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
>
> When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
>
>
>
>
>

But it never appeared on Roman coins, documents, etc. It was a construct of later historians. You can substitute almost anything - a letter from Cleopatra to Marc Antony, whatever - for the coin. :-)

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?


 
Judy: You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know?

This may have been possible provided we're speaking exclusively of the "B.C." mark. But there is said to be an oracle of Greece who did predict Christ's birth and thus A.D. ("in the year of our Lord"). She was spoken of in early churches and given respect. I cannot say the prediction was in fact but reported on a History Channel episode.

Gary
________

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> Depends which Caesar you are talking about of course ;)
>
> But good joke, if as I guess you refer to young Julius! :D
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
> >
> > You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of  Caesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum.  
> >  
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> > Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> >
> >  
> > What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> >
> > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> >
> > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> >
> > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> >
> > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Gary,

Quite! That's the idea.

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?


 
Judy,

Knowing it was the year 14 would also have been a miracle.

Gary
_________

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> It's the "B.C." that gives it away, of course. Usually the story is related with lots of otherwise accurate detail....
>
> Judy
>  
> Loyaulte me lie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?
>
>
>  
> Depends which Caesar you are talking about of course ;)
>
> But good joke, if as I guess you refer to young Julius! :D
>
> --- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@> wrote:
> >
> > Reminds me of a joke/puzzle which goes:
> >
> > You find an ancient looking silver Roman coin with the image of àCaesar. It's dated in Roman numerals 14 B.C. You take it to the nearest coin dealer to find out its value. He takes one look and tells you it's a fake. How does he know? :-)
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > Speaking of Byzantium, read The Dragon in Waiting by Ford. Great fantasy, based on the premise Rome never lost its hold over Europe and Britain. It's the story of Richard where he's Dux and York is still Eboracum. à
> > à
> > Loyaulte me lie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> > Subject: What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> >
> > à
> > What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> >
> > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> >
> > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> >
> > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> >
> > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...

...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p

--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> What if these were Medieval times?
>
> This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
>
> Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
>
> In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
>
> It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
>
> When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>

:P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p

This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.

Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.

How do we know we've started?

Gary
______________



--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
>
> ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> >
> > What if these were Medieval times?
> >
> > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> >
> > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> >
> > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> >
> > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> >
> > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
>

No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...

--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
>
> This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
>
> Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
>
> How do we know we've started?
>
> Gary
> ______________
>
>
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> >
> > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> >
> > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > >
> > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > >
> > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > >
> > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > >
> > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > >
> > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ____________
> > >
> >
>

:P,

I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.

I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.

Gary
____________


--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> >
> > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> >
> > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> >
> > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> >
> > How do we know we've started?
> >
> > Gary
> > ______________
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > >
> > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > >
> > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > >
> > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > >
> > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > >
> > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > >
> > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > >
> > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > ____________
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

:P,

If no objections I'd like to hear of 221 before continuing myself.

Gary
_________



--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> :P,
>
> I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
>
> I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
> >
> > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > >
> > > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> > >
> > > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> > >
> > > How do we know we've started?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ______________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > >
> > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > > >
> > > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > > >
> > > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > > >
> > > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > ____________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

French revolutionary calendar, 221st year since the revolution. Á la lanterne, aristocrat!!! (LOL)

Actually on a serious note it demonstrates that the calendars we have are based on arbitary points in time. In our case, a supposed 'Year One' (What happened to year zero?!?); but in the Islamic calendar it's 1433. And the Julian / Gregorian difference would be slightly more by now...

Interesting proposition, nonetheless. Cheers!

--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> :P,
>
> If no objections I'd like to hear of 221 before continuing myself.
>
> Gary
> _________
>
>
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> >
> > :P,
> >
> > I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
> >
> > I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
> > >
> > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > >
> > > > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> > > >
> > > > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> > > >
> > > > How do we know we've started?
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > ______________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > ____________
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

We're assuming this to be the year 2012 and it could be. If everyone is agreeing that it truly is then for practical purposes--it is. Not for the Chinese though.

According to the Mayans (Sumerian astronomy) Earth will be crossing the Dark Rift at this point and in 2012 there will be a change. Within a reasonable bit of years we must be close to there, however, does that mean our calendar is spot on with those old ones?

What is currently happening by the observations of others:

The solar bubble is compressed by 25%. All of the planets are experiencing a "global warming" effect with pole melting. Earth's atmosphere is also compressed down. World noises are being heard and some saying this is the result of the core spinning at a possible different rate than prior. Sine 1983 scientists have observed the outer planets being disturbed a little in their orbits.

Science television programs tell we are approaching the center of the galaxy so it seems we must be on the verge of some Mayan prediction or calendar event.

This only pins modern times to calendar and not potential missing Roman-Medieval times.

Gary
_______________


--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> :P,
>
> I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
>
> I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
> >
> > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > >
> > > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> > >
> > > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> > >
> > > How do we know we've started?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ______________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > >
> > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > > >
> > > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > > >
> > > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > > >
> > > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > ____________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

If this is the Matrix, then you are the one. Sorry, but what the Mayans may (or may not) believe is supremely irrelevant. LOL etc.

How about the Taiwanese calendar. Different from the RoC.
Indiginous peoples have their OWN scales which are their own until they meet / merge with / are absorbed into another.

This is good stuff!

Cheers.

--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> We're assuming this to be the year 2012 and it could be. If everyone is agreeing that it truly is then for practical purposes--it is. Not for the Chinese though.
>
> According to the Mayans (Sumerian astronomy) Earth will be crossing the Dark Rift at this point and in 2012 there will be a change. Within a reasonable bit of years we must be close to there, however, does that mean our calendar is spot on with those old ones?
>
> What is currently happening by the observations of others:
>
> The solar bubble is compressed by 25%. All of the planets are experiencing a "global warming" effect with pole melting. Earth's atmosphere is also compressed down. World noises are being heard and some saying this is the result of the core spinning at a possible different rate than prior. Sine 1983 scientists have observed the outer planets being disturbed a little in their orbits.
>
> Science television programs tell we are approaching the center of the galaxy so it seems we must be on the verge of some Mayan prediction or calendar event.
>
> This only pins modern times to calendar and not potential missing Roman-Medieval times.
>
> Gary
> _______________
>
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> >
> > :P,
> >
> > I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
> >
> > I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
> > >
> > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > >
> > > > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> > > >
> > > > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> > > >
> > > > How do we know we've started?
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > ______________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > ____________
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Touche!

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: blancsanglier1452 <blancsanglier1452@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?


 
French revolutionary calendar, 221st year since the revolution. Á la lanterne, aristocrat!!! (LOL)

Actually on a serious note it demonstrates that the calendars we have are based on arbitary points in time. In our case, a supposed 'Year One' (What happened to year zero?!?); but in the Islamic calendar it's 1433. And the Julian / Gregorian difference would be slightly more by now...

Interesting proposition, nonetheless. Cheers!

--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> :P,
>
> If no objections I'd like to hear of 221 before continuing myself.
>
> Gary
> _________
>
>
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> >
> > :P,
> >
> > I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
> >
> > I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
> > >
> > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > >
> > > > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> > > >
> > > > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> > > >
> > > > How do we know we've started?
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > ______________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > ____________
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

The earth's core is constantly varying. Even magnetic North and South slip and slide a bit. We're lucky. A static core, and we'd have no atmosphere to speak of.

For those concerned about Mayan predictions, apparently an addendum to their calendar gives us another 4-5,000 years. What a relief, eh? ;-)

Judy

Fun fact: In 2011 the days of the week seemed to correspond with those of 1485....
 
Loyaulte me lie


________________________________
From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?


 
We're assuming this to be the year 2012 and it could be. If everyone is agreeing that it truly is then for practical purposes--it is. Not for the Chinese though.

According to the Mayans (Sumerian astronomy) Earth will be crossing the Dark Rift at this point and in 2012 there will be a change. Within a reasonable bit of years we must be close to there, however, does that mean our calendar is spot on with those old ones?

What is currently happening by the observations of others:

The solar bubble is compressed by 25%. All of the planets are experiencing a "global warming" effect with pole melting. Earth's atmosphere is also compressed down. World noises are being heard and some saying this is the result of the core spinning at a possible different rate than prior. Sine 1983 scientists have observed the outer planets being disturbed a little in their orbits.

Science television programs tell we are approaching the center of the galaxy so it seems we must be on the verge of some Mayan prediction or calendar event.

This only pins modern times to calendar and not potential missing Roman-Medieval times.

Gary
_______________

--- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>
> :P,
>
> I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
>
> I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
>
> Gary
> ____________
>
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
> >
> > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > >
> > > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> > >
> > > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> > >
> > > How do we know we've started?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > ______________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > >
> > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > > >
> > > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > > >
> > > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > > >
> > > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > ____________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Got time for a swifty, at least...

--- In , Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> The earth's core is constantly varying. Even magnetic North and South slip and slide a bit. We're lucky. A static core, and we'd have no atmosphere to speak of.
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> For those concerned about Mayan predictions, apparently an addendum to their calendar gives us another 4-5,000 years. What a relief, eh? ;-)
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> Judy
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> Fun fact: In 2011 the days of the week seemed to correspond with those of 1485....
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> Loyaulte me lie
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> From: sirtsclan <sirtsclan@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: What if these were Medieval times?
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> We're assuming this to be the year 2012 and it could be. If everyone is agreeing that it truly is then for practical purposes--it is. Not for the Chinese though.
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> According to the Mayans (Sumerian astronomy) Earth will be crossing the Dark Rift at this point and in 2012 there will be a change. Within a reasonable bit of years we must be close to there, however, does that mean our calendar is spot on with those old ones?
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> What is currently happening by the observations of others:
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> The solar bubble is compressed by 25%. All of the planets are experiencing a "global warming" effect with pole melting. Earth's atmosphere is also compressed down. World noises are being heard and some saying this is the result of the core spinning at a possible different rate than prior. Sine 1983 scientists have observed the outer planets being disturbed a little in their orbits.
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> Science television programs tell we are approaching the center of the galaxy so it seems we must be on the verge of some Mayan prediction or calendar event.
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> This only pins modern times to calendar and not potential missing Roman-Medieval times.
>
> Gary
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> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
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> > :P,
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> > I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
> >
> > I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
> >
> > Gary
> > ____________
> >
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
> > >
> > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > >
> > > > This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
> > > >
> > > > Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
> > > >
> > > > How do we know we've started?
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > ______________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What if these were Medieval times?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > ____________
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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The Romans based theirs on the number of years from the founding of the city, though I can't off hand remember exactly when that was thought to have been.
Paul

On 25 Sep 2012, at 18:37, blancsanglier1452 wrote:

> French revolutionary calendar, 221st year since the revolution. Á la lanterne, aristocrat!!! (LOL)
>
> Actually on a serious note it demonstrates that the calendars we have are based on arbitary points in time. In our case, a supposed 'Year One' (What happened to year zero?!?); but in the Islamic calendar it's 1433. And the Julian / Gregorian difference would be slightly more by now...
>
> Interesting proposition, nonetheless. Cheers!
>
> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@...> wrote:
>>
>> :P,
>>
>> If no objections I'd like to hear of 221 before continuing myself.
>>
>> Gary
>> _________
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
>>>
>>> :P,
>>>
>>> I'm sure many want to hear about the year 221 but think you may be pulling someone's leg.
>>>
>>> I on the other hand want to try showing how the timeline isn't true chronology.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> ____________
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No, honestly, NOT a typo: I think (actually I know!!!) this is Year 221...
>>>>
>>>> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> :P: You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
>>>>> ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a valid point, indeed, but assume you mean 2012.
>>>>>
>>>>> Science tells us we're crossing the galactic plane but that does not mean past dates were accurate regarding Medieval times. There is also a bit of trouble with knowing for sure we're in 2012 as crossing that plane is supposed to take 1,000 years to cross. I give you History Chanel "facts" and figures.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do we know we've started?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> ______________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know a real brain-teaser for you would be...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...why do I think it is actually the year 221? Polite answers only of course :p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In , "sirtsclan" <sirtsclan@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What if these were Medieval times?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This one really could be a brain teaser because years ago I read that prior civilisations did not really know what the year really was. For example, in China this year is 4710 and not 2012.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Coins of ancient times did not have the year dates you see on then nowadays and reckoning of time not ours. You can check these details out by doing your own Google searches. I hesitate to research every detail of what I'm saying when such is so easy to do for those interested in this topic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the 1400s there were those in the world of academia who got together and decided how to fit events of history together. Some styles of periods were helpful except for a building located in Egypt with special arches. It did not fit the timeline by 200-300 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is quite possible by my speculation that we may really be living in the years of late Medieval times--perhaps even the 1600s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When the heroes of Byzantium and those of ancient England were lined up, there was missing or an offset of at least 200 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> ____________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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I believ it was 754 or 755 BCE

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Trevor Bale" <paul.bale@...>
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Re: What if these were Medieval
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The Romans based theirs on the number of years from the founding of the
city, though I can't off hand remember exactly when that was thought to have
been.
Paul

Yes, found it. 21st April 753 BC known to the Romans as year 1 A.U.C ab urbe condita
Paul

On 28 Sep 2012, at 15:16, Douglas Eugene Stamate wrote:

> I believ it was 754 or 755 BCE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: What if these were Medieval
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> The Romans based theirs on the number of years from the founding of the
> city, though I can't off hand remember exactly when that was thought to have
> been.
> Paul
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