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Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical biographical movie. He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft. If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in life. Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III. Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away. So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting! let me know what everyone thinks&.

Oh Peter Strauss!  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)  He's a good actor.
 
But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

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From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 21:51
Subject:

Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical  biographical movie.  He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft.  If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you  can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in  life.  Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III.  Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away.  So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting!  let me know what everyone thinks&.

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Carol Darling wrote:
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> Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical biographical movie. He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft. If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in life. Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III. Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away. So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting! let me know what everyone thinks….

Carol (the other Carol) responds:

I'm not familiar with Peter Strauss, but since he's more than twice Richard's age at death, it's too late (as you point out). One of the many problems with portrayals of Richard (in or out of Shakespeare) is that he's always cast as being much older than he really was. (Ian McKellen is probably the extreme instance).

But I thought that Philippa Langley was already working on a new Richard III movie. Or maybe I'm just hoping. If not, maybe someone more familiar than I am with British actors (other than Alan Rickman, also too old and with the wrong voice for the part) can suggest an actor to play the real Richard.

I hope you'll forgive me for supplying a subject line for this thread. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.

Carol, who should probably start calling herself Carol T now that there are two of us

--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
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> I hope you'll forgive me for supplying a subject line for this thread. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.



Thanks for reminding us that we can -- and should -- change the subject line of posts when the discussion strays far enough from the original topic.

You can do it in the manner of "Mulled Ale Recipe WAS Frog-Catching By Moonlight" in order to leave a trail.

Katy

I think Richard Armitage is way to tall. I just think, my choice of Peter Strauss, 30 years ago was ideal, he was 35 at the time, and looked very much like the existing contemporary portraits of Richard. Its a shame Richard was portrayed by actors, much older. Its not going to be easy, to get it just right, in a modern movie. I think Richard had such terrible luck in his short life, and after death, it sure didn't get any better. I just hope we have a superb, nice looking, perfect fit, if the movie does get made.

Perfect to play Richard from 16 - 32 in my script is .... oh sorry..... I'm keeping it to myself for now, but I will say I think Julianne Moore would be perfect to play mother!
Paul

On 3 Oct 2012, at 01:38, justcarol67 wrote:

>
>
> Carol Darling wrote:
>>
>> Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical biographical movie. He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft. If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in life. Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III. Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away. So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting! let me know what everyone thinks&.
>
> Carol (the other Carol) responds:
>
> I'm not familiar with Peter Strauss, but since he's more than twice Richard's age at death, it's too late (as you point out). One of the many problems with portrayals of Richard (in or out of Shakespeare) is that he's always cast as being much older than he really was. (Ian McKellen is probably the extreme instance).
>
> But I thought that Philippa Langley was already working on a new Richard III movie. Or maybe I'm just hoping. If not, maybe someone more familiar than I am with British actors (other than Alan Rickman, also too old and with the wrong voice for the part) can suggest an actor to play the real Richard.
>
> I hope you'll forgive me for supplying a subject line for this thread. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.
>
> Carol, who should probably start calling herself Carol T now that there are two of us
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

On 2 Oct 2012, at 22:54, liz williams wrote:

> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

Like Peter Strauss RA is way too old, and far too tall!
Sorry.
Paul


Richard Liveth Yet!

Paul...whoever it is...they must be blessed with gravitas....:0/ Eileen

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
>
> On 2 Oct 2012, at 22:54, liz williams wrote:
>
> > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
>
> Like Peter Strauss RA is way too old, and far too tall!
> Sorry.
> Paul
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Peter Strauss!  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)  He's a good actor.
>  
> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

Carol responds belatedly:

I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/

That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).

Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!

Has anyone here signed his petition?

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/

Carol

Oh he does, and can handle the emotional range as well as the age change from 16 through to nearly 33!
Paul

On 3 Oct 2012, at 16:45, EileenB wrote:

> Paul...whoever it is...they must be blessed with gravitas....:0/ Eileen
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
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>> On 2 Oct 2012, at 22:54, liz williams wrote:
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>>> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
>>
>> Like Peter Strauss RA is way too old, and far too tall!
>> Sorry.
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Richard Liveth Yet!

I agree Carol, the  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages.  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
Vickie

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?

 


--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Peter Strauss!  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)  He's a good actor.
>  
> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

Carol responds belatedly:

I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/

That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).

Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!

Has anyone here signed his petition?

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/

Carol

Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen

--- In , Vickie Cook <lolettecook@...> wrote:
>
> I agree Carol, the  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages.  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> Vickie
>
> From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>  
>
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh Peter Strauss!  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)  He's a good actor.
> >  
> > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
>
> Carol responds belatedly:
>
> I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
>
> http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
>
> That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
>
> Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
>
> Has anyone here signed his petition?
>
> http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>

I don't know how tall Armitage is - 6 foot? -  but we are all taller now than they were then (except Edward IV of course).  i just think he has the right look.  He is also too old as he is 41 I think. 
 
Even if there was a movie, they wouldn't get it right and plenty of people will be dissatisfied.  The important thing would be to have a damn good actor.


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From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 1:44
Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

 
I think Richard Armitage is way to tall. I just think, my choice of Peter Strauss, 30 years ago was ideal, he was 35 at the time, and looked very much like the existing contemporary portraits of Richard. Its a shame Richard was portrayed by actors, much older. Its not going to be easy, to get it just right, in a modern movie. I think Richard had such terrible luck in his short life, and after death, it sure didn't get any better. I just hope we have a superb, nice looking, perfect fit, if the movie does get made.

Well they can have tall girls playing opposite him  to make him look shorter ....



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From: Vickie Cook <lolettecook@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 18:54
Subject: Re: Re:Who should play Richard III?

 
I agree Carol, the  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages.  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
Vickie

From: justcarol67 <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?

 

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Peter Strauss!  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)  He's a good actor.
>  
> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

Carol responds belatedly:

I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/

That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).

Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!

Has anyone here signed his petition?

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/

Carol

Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?

 
Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@...> wrote:
>
> I agree Carol, the  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages.  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> Vickie
>
> From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>  
>
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh Peter Strauss!à I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him inà(although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)à He's a good actor.
> > à
> > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
>
> Carol responds belatedly:
>
> I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
>
> http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
>
> That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
>
> Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
>
> Has anyone here signed his petition?
>
> http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>

Did Cicely have red hair?



________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 16:40
Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

Perfect to play Richard from 16 - 32 in my script is .... oh sorry..... I'm keeping it to myself for now, but I will say I think Julianne Moore would be perfect to play mother!
Paul

On 3 Oct 2012, at 01:38, justcarol67 wrote:

>
>
> Carol Darling wrote:
>>
>> Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical  biographical movie.  He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft.  If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you  can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in  life.  Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III.  Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away.  So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting!  let me know what everyone thinks&.
>
> Carol (the other Carol) responds:
>
> I'm not familiar with Peter Strauss, but since he's more than twice Richard's age at death, it's too late (as you point out). One of the many problems with portrayals of Richard (in or out of Shakespeare) is that he's always cast as being much older than he really was. (Ian McKellen is probably the extreme instance).
>
> But I thought that Philippa Langley was already working on a new Richard III movie. Or maybe I'm just hoping. If not, maybe someone more familiar than I am with British actors (other than Alan Rickman, also too old and with the wrong voice for the part) can suggest an actor to play the real Richard.
>
> I hope you'll forgive me for supplying a subject line for this thread. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.
>
> Carol, who should probably start calling herself Carol T now that there are two of us
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!





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Oh crickey Liz...I was going to say Alan Ladd but I was sure as eggs are eggs that noone on here would be able to remember him.....! I was absolutely in love with Alan Ladd when I was a little girl...and my dad who worked for Columbia Pictures managed to get me a cutout figure of him which I stood in my bedroom...O memories....How tall was he....4' 2"?
Lol....eileen


--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>  
> Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree Carol, the  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages.  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > Vickie
> >
> > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh Peter Strauss!  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)  He's a good actor.
> > >  
> > > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> >
> > Carol responds belatedly:
> >
> > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> >
> > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> >
> > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> >
> > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> >
> > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> >
> > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Oh wow your Dad must have had a glamorous job - shame you didn't get to meet Alan Ladd!   I think he was about 5ft 4 9 - it's the Queen Mum who was 4ft 2 - I met her once (without her hat!) and she was SO short!
 
Shane - come back Shane ......


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From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 20:55
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?

 
Oh crickey Liz...I was going to say Alan Ladd but I was sure as eggs are eggs that noone on here would be able to remember him.....! I was absolutely in love with Alan Ladd when I was a little girl...and my dad who worked for Columbia Pictures managed to get me a cutout figure of him which I stood in my bedroom...O memories....How tall was he....4' 2"?
Lol....eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>  
> Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree Carol, theà fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!à An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playingàcharacters different from their own ages.à As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > Vickie
> >
> > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> > à
> >
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh Peter Strauss!Ã’â¬aà I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him inÃ’â¬aà(although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)Ã’â¬aà He's a good actor.
> > > Ã’â¬aà
> > > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> >
> > Carol responds belatedly:
> >
> > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> >
> > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> >
> > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> >
> > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> >
> > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> >
> > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Lol...Liz...he used to drive a van.....:0)

Oh yeah...Shaaaaaane....

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh wow your Dad must have had a glamorous job - shame you didn't get to meet Alan Ladd!   I think he was about 5ft 4 9 - it's the Queen Mum who was 4ft 2 - I met her once (without her hat!) and she was SO short!
>  
> Shane - come back Shane ......
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 20:55
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>  
> Oh crickey Liz...I was going to say Alan Ladd but I was sure as eggs are eggs that noone on here would be able to remember him.....! I was absolutely in love with Alan Ladd when I was a little girl...and my dad who worked for Columbia Pictures managed to get me a cutout figure of him which I stood in my bedroom...O memories....How tall was he....4' 2"?
> Lol....eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> >  
> > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree Carol, the  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages.  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > > Vickie
> > >
> > > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh Peter Strauss!ÃÆ'‚  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him inÃÆ'‚ (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)ÃÆ'‚  He's a good actor.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> > >
> > > Carol responds belatedly:
> > >
> > > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> > >
> > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> > >
> > > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> > >
> > > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> > >
> > > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> > >
> > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>

Ha !  I thought you meant Alan Ladd



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 21:28
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?

 
Lol...Liz...he used to drive a van.....:0)

Oh yeah...Shaaaaaane....

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh wow your Dad must have had a glamorous job - shame you didn't get to meet Alan Ladd!   I think he was about 5ft 4 9 - it's the Queen Mum who was 4ft 2 - I met her once (without her hat!) and she was SO short!
>  
> Shane - come back Shane ......
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 20:55
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>  
> Oh crickey Liz...I was going to say Alan Ladd but I was sure as eggs are eggs that noone on here would be able to remember him.....! I was absolutely in love with Alan Ladd when I was a little girl...and my dad who worked for Columbia Pictures managed to get me a cutout figure of him which I stood in my bedroom...O memories....How tall was he....4' 2"?
> Lol....eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> > à
> > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree Carol, theÃ’â¬aà fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!Ã’â¬aà An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playingÃ’â¬aàcharacters different from their own ages.Ã’â¬aà As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > > Vickie
> > >
> > > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > >
> > > Ã’â¬aà
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh Peter Strauss!Ã’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him inÃ’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà(although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)Ã’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà He's a good actor.
> > > > Ã’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà
> > > > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> > >
> > > Carol responds belatedly:
> > >
> > > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> > >
> > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> > >
> > > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> > >
> > > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> > >
> > > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> > >
> > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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>

As far as I am aware Alan Ladd never drove a van for Columba Pictures...legs far too short....

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Ha !  I thought you meant Alan Ladd
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 21:28
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>  
> Lol...Liz...he used to drive a van.....:0)
>
> Oh yeah...Shaaaaaane....
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh wow your Dad must have had a glamorous job - shame you didn't get to meet Alan Ladd!   I think he was about 5ft 4 9 - it's the Queen Mum who was 4ft 2 - I met her once (without her hat!) and she was SO short!
> >  
> > Shane - come back Shane ......
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 20:55
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> >  
> > Oh crickey Liz...I was going to say Alan Ladd but I was sure as eggs are eggs that noone on here would be able to remember him.....! I was absolutely in love with Alan Ladd when I was a little girl...and my dad who worked for Columbia Pictures managed to get me a cutout figure of him which I stood in my bedroom...O memories....How tall was he....4' 2"?
> > Lol....eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
> > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > >
> > >  
> > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree Carol, theÃÆ'‚  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!ÃÆ'‚  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playingÃÆ'‚ characters different from their own ages.ÃÆ'‚  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > > > Vickie
> > > >
> > > > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh Peter Strauss!ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him inÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  He's a good actor.
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> > > >
> > > > Carol responds belatedly:
> > > >
> > > > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> > > >
> > > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> > > >
> > > > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> > > >
> > > > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> > > >
> > > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> > > >
> > > > Carol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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An actors age does matter. How can a man in his 40s convince an audience he is only 18?
Paul


On 3 Oct 2012, at 18:54, Vickie Cook wrote:

> I agree Carol, the fact that he wants to do the project is a plus! An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages. As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> Vickie
>
> From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
>
>
>
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>>
>> Oh Peter Strauss! I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...) He's a good actor.
>> Â
>> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
>
> Carol responds belatedly:
>
> I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
>
> http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
>
> That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
>
> Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
>
> Has anyone here signed his petition?
>
> http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

Hi, All 

I am loving all this talk about an actor to play the real Richard  something that, as far as I am aware, has never yet been brought to stage or screen. Armitage may be too old and too tall in real life, but, hey, they can work wonders with digital effects these days. Keep in mind that he is playing a dwarf with other dwarves, a couple of wizards, bunches of Elves, and a Shire full of hobbits  and they are probably all more or less normal height. They will all be altered by the magic of the camera  sometimes simple tricks of forced perspective, not even computer-generated effects. And I am sure that CGI would be capable of rejuvenating R.A. to an age-appropriate appearance.



So don't give up! I think there will be a push to create a movie based on the facts, especially in light of recent developments!



This is almost worth raising another glass to Richard's (III not Armitage J) memory in gleeful anticipation!



TTFN J



Johanne

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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Vickie Cook
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:54 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re:Who should play Richard III?





I agree Carol, the fact that he wants to do the project is a plus! An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages. As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
Vickie

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@... <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com> >
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?



--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Peter Strauss! I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...) He's a good actor.
> Â
> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

Carol responds belatedly:

I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/

That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).

Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!

Has anyone here signed his petition?

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/

Carol

Well Paul I have complete faith that the actor you choose to play Richard will be great for the role

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> An actors age does matter. How can a man in his 40s convince an audience he is only 18?
> Paul
>
> On 3 Oct 2012, at 18:54, Vickie Cook wrote:
>
> > I agree Carol, the fact that he wants to do the project is a plus! An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages. As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > Vickie
> >
> > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh Peter Strauss! I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...) He's a good actor.
> >> Â
> >> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> >
> > Carol responds belatedly:
> >
> > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> >
> > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> >
> > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> >
> > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> >
> > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> >
> > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>

Dear Eileen,

> Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..

Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast ý cast them taller than in
reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
look taller, anyway.

And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
definitely taller than that!

best,
Marianne

For an excellent example of how to de-age older actors, see Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart in "X-Men: the Last Stand". For an excellent example of how to chop a foot off an actor's height and still be convincing, see Philip Seymour Hoffman in "Capote".

It's all doable visually. What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something you can do digitally.

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know how tall Armitage is - 6 foot? -  but we are all taller now than they were then (except Edward IV of course).  i just think he has the right look.  He is also too old as he is 41 I think. 
>  
> Even if there was a movie, they wouldn't get it right and plenty of people will be dissatisfied.  The important thing would be to have a damn good actor.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 1:44
> Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?
>
>  
> I think Richard Armitage is way to tall. I just think, my choice of Peter Strauss, 30 years ago was ideal, he was 35 at the time, and looked very much like the existing contemporary portraits of Richard. Its a shame Richard was portrayed by actors, much older. Its not going to be easy, to get it just right, in a modern movie. I think Richard had such terrible luck in his short life, and after death, it sure didn't get any better. I just hope we have a superb, nice looking, perfect fit, if the movie does get made.
>
>
>
>
>

She would if Miramax made it.

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Did Cicely have red hair?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 16:40
> Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?
>
> Perfect to play Richard from 16 - 32 in my script is .... oh sorry..... I'm keeping it to myself for now, but I will say I think Julianne Moore would be perfect to play mother!
> Paul
>
> On 3 Oct 2012, at 01:38, justcarol67 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Carol Darling wrote:
> >>
> >> Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical  biographical movie.  He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft.  If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you  can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in  life.  Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III.  Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away.  So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting!  let me know what everyone thinks….
> >
> > Carol (the other Carol) responds:
> >
> > I'm not familiar with Peter Strauss, but since he's more than twice Richard's age at death, it's too late (as you point out). One of the many problems with portrayals of Richard (in or out of Shakespeare) is that he's always cast as being much older than he really was. (Ian McKellen is probably the extreme instance).
> >
> > But I thought that Philippa Langley was already working on a new Richard III movie. Or maybe I'm just hoping. If not, maybe someone more familiar than I am with British actors (other than Alan Rickman, also too old and with the wrong voice for the part) can suggest an actor to play the real Richard.
> >
> > I hope you'll forgive me for supplying a subject line for this thread. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.
> >
> > Carol, who should probably start calling herself Carol T now that there are two of us
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

the large black actor in the movie, the green mile (who recently passed on) was not anywhere near as tall/big..gianormus as portrayed in that movie. he's only a couple of inches taller than charlie sheen (two and half men). he did a guest appearance on that tv show.

camera angles definitely can play a role in depicting size, as can manufacturing furniture that is larger or smaller than normal proportions.

while i would like to see richard accurately played. i think his height is a minor element. it is all about who he, as a person really was.

roslyn

--- On Wed, 10/3/12, Dr M M Gilchrist <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Dr M M Gilchrist <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Who should play Richard III?
To:
Received: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 6:23 PM

Dear Eileen,

> Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on 
> boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it 
> wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..

Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast  cast them taller than in 
reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them 
look taller, anyway.

And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's 
definitely taller than that!

best,
Marianne





------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

This exchange got you a hearty belly laugh, Eileen and Liz!

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> As far as I am aware Alan Ladd never drove a van for Columba Pictures...legs far too short....
>
> --- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Ha !  I thought you meant Alan Ladd
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 21:28
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> >  
> > Lol...Liz...he used to drive a van.....:0)
> >
> > Oh yeah...Shaaaaaane....
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh wow your Dad must have had a glamorous job - shame you didn't get to meet Alan Ladd!   I think he was about 5ft 4 9 - it's the Queen Mum who was 4ft 2 - I met her once (without her hat!) and she was SO short!
> > >  
> > > Shane - come back Shane ......
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 20:55
> > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > >
> > >  
> > > Oh crickey Liz...I was going to say Alan Ladd but I was sure as eggs are eggs that noone on here would be able to remember him.....! I was absolutely in love with Alan Ladd when I was a little girl...and my dad who worked for Columbia Pictures managed to get me a cutout figure of him which I stood in my bedroom...O memories....How tall was he....4' 2"?
> > > Lol....eileen
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
> > > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree Carol, theÃÆ'‚  fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!ÃÆ'‚  An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playingÃÆ'‚ characters different from their own ages.ÃÆ'‚  As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > > > > Vickie
> > > > >
> > > > > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh Peter Strauss!ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him inÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  He's a good actor.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol responds belatedly:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> > > > >
> > > > > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> An actors age does matter. How can a man in his 40s convince an audience he is only 18?

Carol responds:

They'd have to use different actors for different ages, which happens all the time (for example, with Tom Riddle in the Harry Potter movies, if I dare to mention kid fantasy on this board).

But, apparently, Richard Armitage realizes that he's getting too old for the role but still wants to make the film (or see it made). He's considering the role of Warwick.

I'm starting to really like the guy, and I never heard of him till today (unless you count seeing him as Thorin Oakenshield but not knowing who he was).

Carol

On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:

> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something you can do digitally.

Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)


Richard Liveth Yet!

Hi, Paul -

Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you think
would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to think
of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she could
do it! J



Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)





From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
Richard?






On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:

> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something you
can do digitally.

Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)

Richard Liveth Yet!

Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing my search for finance.
Paul


On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

I am disappointed. L



After all, it's harmless fun to speculate about who would be best for the
role. We often play this game on other lists that I'm on, and I think it's
worth doing, in a way, even tho no one in particular is listening to us.
Still, I think it's possible that things get bruited about that somehow get
into the ether.



Regarding Tom Cruise - the actor I love to hate! - I would like to see him
portray someone who loses his head! Particularly if he's a method actor. J



TTFN J



Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~







From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:58 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
Richard?





Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her
great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be
a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can
play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who
want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with
the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard
if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he
could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old
would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen
something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine
what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing
my search for finance.
Paul

On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you
think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to
think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she
could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something
you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

Hi All

Been out of the loop for a while but re the right Richard, In 2000 I saw Aiden McArdle play Richard in Michael Boyd's history series at the RSC. He was young, nice looking, and absolutely brilliant.

Hope to be able to join in a bit more now.

Anne




To:
From: jltournier60@...
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:22:43 -0300
Subject: RE: Re:Who should play Richard III?





Hi, All ý

I am loving all this talk about an actor to play the ýrealý Richard ý something that, as far as I am aware, has never yet been brought to stage or screen. Armitage may be too old and too tall in real life, but, hey, they can work wonders with digital effects these days. Keep in mind that he is playing a dwarf with other ýdwarves,ý a couple of wizards, bunches of Elves, and a Shire full of hobbits ý and they are probably all more or less ýnormalý height. They will all be altered by the magic of the camera ý sometimes simple tricks of ýforced perspective,ý not even computer-generated effects. And I am sure that CGI would be capable of ýrejuvenatingý R.A. to an age-appropriate appearance.

So donýt give up! I think there will be a push to create a movie based on the facts, especially in light of recent developments!

This is almost worth raising another glass to Richardýs (III not Armitage J) memory in gleeful anticipation!

TTFN J

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Vickie Cook
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:54 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re:Who should play Richard III?

I agree Carol, the fact that he wants to do the project is a plus! An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages. As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
Vickie

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@... <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com> >
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Peter Strauss!ý I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him iný (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)ý He's a good actor.
> ý
> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

Carol responds belatedly:

I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/

That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).

Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!

Has anyone here signed his petition?

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/

Carol

For Elizabeth, how about Tamsin Egerton. Right age, right build, beautiful, and a lovely actress.

Anne




To:
From: jltournier60@...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:02:27 -0300
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Richard?





I am disappointed. L

After all, it's harmless fun to speculate about who would be best for the
role. We often play this game on other lists that I'm on, and I think it's
worth doing, in a way, even tho no one in particular is listening to us.
Still, I think it's possible that things get bruited about that somehow get
into the ether.

Regarding Tom Cruise - the actor I love to hate! - I would like to see him
portray someone who loses his head! Particularly if he's a method actor. J

TTFN J

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:58 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
Richard?

Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her
great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be
a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can
play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who
want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with
the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard
if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he
could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old
would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen
something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine
what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing
my search for finance.
Paul

On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you
think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to
think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she
could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something
you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

LOL he looks like my son-in-law! 


From: Anne Milton <wobblydog1@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: Re:Who should play Richard III?


Hi All

Been out of the loop for a while but re the right Richard, In 2000 I saw Aiden McArdle play Richard in Michael Boyd's history series at the RSC. He was young, nice looking, and absolutely brilliant.

Hope to be able to join in a bit more now.

Anne




To:
From: jltournier60@...
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:22:43 -0300
Subject: RE: Re:Who should play Richard III?

 



Hi, All 

I am loving all this talk about an actor to play the real Richard  something that, as far as I am aware, has never yet been brought to stage or screen. Armitage may be too old and too tall in real life, but, hey, they can work wonders with digital effects these days. Keep in mind that he is playing a dwarf with other dwarves, a couple of wizards, bunches of Elves, and a Shire full of hobbits  and they are probably all more or less normal height. They will all be altered by the magic of the camera  sometimes simple tricks of forced perspective, not even computer-generated effects. And I am sure that CGI would be capable of rejuvenating R.A. to an age-appropriate appearance.

So don't give up! I think there will be a push to create a movie based on the facts, especially in light of recent developments!

This is almost worth raising another glass to Richard's (III not Armitage J) memory in gleeful anticipation!

TTFN J

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Vickie Cook
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:54 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re:Who should play Richard III?

I agree Carol, the fact that he wants to do the project is a plus! An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playing characters different from their own ages. As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
Vickie

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@... <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com> >
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Oh Peter Strauss! I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him in (although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...) He's a good actor.
> Â
> But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)

Carol responds belatedly:

I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/

That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).

Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!

Has anyone here signed his petition?

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/

Carol








                       





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Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters that much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen

--- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Eileen,
>
> > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
>
> Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast – cast them taller than in
> reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> look taller, anyway.
>
> And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> definitely taller than that!
>
> best,
> Marianne
>
>
>

Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he was
going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed to
indefinitely and continuously on stage).

Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as possible -
for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.

Maria
ejbronte@...

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
<cherryripe.eileenb@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters that
> much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
>
>
> --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Eileen,
> >
> > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> >
> > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast ý cast them taller than in
> > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > look taller, anyway.
> >
> > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > definitely taller than that!
> >
> > best,
> > Marianne
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Maybe they should just have chosen Alan Ladd for the part....:0)

--- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@...> wrote:
>
> Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he was
> going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
> would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed to
> indefinitely and continuously on stage).
>
> Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
> characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as possible -
> for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
> qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.
>
> Maria
> ejbronte@...
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
> <cherryripe.eileenb@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters that
> > much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> > Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
> >
> >
> > --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Eileen,
> > >
> > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> > >
> > > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast – cast them taller than in
> > > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > > look taller, anyway.
> > >
> > > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > > definitely taller than that!
> > >
> > > best,
> > > Marianne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Nope: the movies have proven that Toulouse-Lautrec was actually Puerto
Rican: Jose Ferrer played him once and so did John Leguizamo*. *And who
can argue with that?!

Maria
ejbronte@...

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM, b.eileen25 <
cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Maybe they should just have chosen Alan Ladd for the part....:0)
>
>
> --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he
> was
> > going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
> > would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed
> to
> > indefinitely and continuously on stage).
> >
> > Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
> > characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as
> possible -
> > for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
> > qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.
> >
> > Maria
> > ejbronte@...
>
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
> > <cherryripe.eileenb@...>wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters
> that
> > > much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> > > Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Eileen,
> > > >
> > > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> > > >
> > > > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast ý cast them taller than in
> > > > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > > > look taller, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > > > definitely taller than that!
> > > >
> > > > best,
> > > > Marianne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

It would certainly take a very brave soul to argue with that for sure...so that counts me out...:0)

--- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@...> wrote:
>
> Nope: the movies have proven that Toulouse-Lautrec was actually Puerto
> Rican: Jose Ferrer played him once and so did John Leguizamo*. *And who
> can argue with that?!
>
> Maria
> ejbronte@...
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM, b.eileen25 <
> cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Maybe they should just have chosen Alan Ladd for the part....:0)
> >
> >
> > --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he
> > was
> > > going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
> > > would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed
> > to
> > > indefinitely and continuously on stage).
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
> > > characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as
> > possible -
> > > for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
> > > qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.
> > >
> > > Maria
> > > ejbronte@
> >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
> > > <cherryripe.eileenb@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters
> > that
> > > > much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> > > > Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Eileen,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > > > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > > > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> > > > >
> > > > > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast – cast them taller than in
> > > > > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > > > > look taller, anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > > > > definitely taller than that!
> > > > >
> > > > > best,
> > > > > Marianne
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Maria Torres wrote:
>
> Nope: the movies have proven that Toulouse-Lautrec was actually Puerto Rican: Jose Ferrer played him once and so did John Leguizamo*. *And who can argue with that?!

Carol responds:

To play along with the spirit of this thread but bring it back to Richard, does everyone remember the person (not a member of this forum) who commented in response to a newspaper article about Richard that he wasn't English because he was descended from the (Angevin) Plantagenets? In that case, we'll need a French actor to play him!

By the way, I once requested an online friend to PhotoShop a photograph of the American actor Ted Levine as Richard using the National Portrait Gallery photo as a frame. If anyone wants to see a portrait of a handsome, smiling Richard, I can upload it to our Files just for fun. I think he looks great. Unfortunately, besides being American and having altogether the wrong voice even ignoring the accent, Mr. Levine is now much too old for the part at about 54.

At any rate, I like that photo better than the ones of Richard Armitage in the role, which you can see here:

http://www.facebook.com/RichardIIIforRichardArmitage

I'm assuming that these "portraits" are fan art, which explains the unshaved look and the mullet in the inset.

Unlike Jonathan thingy in the Tudors who said he wouldn't dye his hair red (why didn't they make him wear a wig?) and still got the part of not-so-fat (even when he was meant to be on his last ulcerated legs) Henry.  Ridiculous.
 
 


________________________________
From: mcjohn_wt_net <mcjohn@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 1:46
Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

 
She would if Miramax made it.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Did Cicely have red hair?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 16:40
> Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?
>
> Perfect to play Richard from 16 - 32 in my script is .... oh sorry..... I'm keeping it to myself for now, but I will say I think Julianne Moore would be perfect to play mother!
> Paul
>
> On 3 Oct 2012, at 01:38, justcarol67 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Carol Darling wrote:
> >>
> >> Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical  biographical movie.  He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft.  If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you  can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in  life.  Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III.  Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away.  So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting!  let me know what everyone thinks⬦.
> >
> > Carol (the other Carol) responds:
> >
> > I'm not familiar with Peter Strauss, but since he's more than twice Richard's age at death, it's too late (as you point out). One of the many problems with portrayals of Richard (in or out of Shakespeare) is that he's always cast as being much older than he really was. (Ian McKellen is probably the extreme instance).
> >
> > But I thought that Philippa Langley was already working on a new Richard III movie. Or maybe I'm just hoping. If not, maybe someone more familiar than I am with British actors (other than Alan Rickman, also too old and with the wrong voice for the part) can suggest an actor to play the real Richard.
> >
> > I hope you'll forgive me for supplying a subject line for this thread. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.
> >
> > Carol, who should probably start calling herself Carol T now that there are two of us
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

We are doing our best to provide some light entertainment ....



________________________________
From: mcjohn_wt_net <mcjohn@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 1:51
Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III? Alan Ladd

 
This exchange got you a hearty belly laugh, Eileen and Liz!

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> As far as I am aware Alan Ladd never drove a van for Columba Pictures...legs far too short....
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Ha !  I thought you meant Alan Ladd
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 21:28
> > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> >
> >  
> > Lol...Liz...he used to drive a van.....:0)
> >
> > Oh yeah...Shaaaaaane....
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh wow your Dad must have had a glamorous job - shame you didn't get to meet Alan Ladd!àà I think he was about 5ft 4 9 - it's the Queen Mum who was 4ft 2 - I met her once (without her hat!) and she was SO short!
> > > à
> > > Shane - come back Shane ......
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 20:55
> > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > >
> > > à
> > > Oh crickey Liz...I was going to say Alan Ladd but I was sure as eggs are eggs that noone on here would be able to remember him.....! I was absolutely in love with Alan Ladd when I was a little girl...and my dad who worked for Columbia Pictures managed to get me a cutout figure of him which I stood in my bedroom...O memories....How tall was he....4' 2"?
> > > Lol....eileen
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Like Alan Ladd and Sophia Loren
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 19:14
> > > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > > >
> > > > Ã’â¬aà
> > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse...eileen
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie Cook <lolettecook@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree Carol, theÃ’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà fact that he wants to do the project is a plus!Ã’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà An actor's age doesn't seem to matter, they are always playingÃ’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aàcharacters different from their own ages.Ã’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà As far as his height- well somethings you just have to overlook :)
> > > > > Vickie
> > > > >
> > > > > From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re:Who should play Richard III?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ã’Æ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh Peter Strauss!Ã’Æ'à 'Ò¢ââ¬a¬Ã&¡ÒÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà I used to like him - remember Rich Man Poor Man, which was the first thing I saw him inÃ’Æ'à 'Ò¢ââ¬a¬Ã&¡ÒÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà(although I preferred Nick Nolte in that...)Ã’Æ'à 'Ò¢ââ¬a¬Ã&¡ÒÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà He's a good actor.
> > > > > > Ã’Æ'à 'Ò¢ââ¬a¬Ã&¡ÒÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ã’â¬aà
> > > > > > But i still think Richard Armitage is the one for me (to play Richard that is, what else could I mean?)
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol responds belatedly:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just discovered what most of you probably already know: Richard Armitage actually *wants* to do this project and has a website devoted to Richard:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2012/08/28/badge-of-the-white-boar-by-joe-ann-ricca/york-minster-riiif/
> > > > >
> > > > > That being the case, I vote for Mr. Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield!!!) to play Richard (and perhaps sing Dwarf songs in that deep baritone voice--well, maybe not).
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, at 6'2", he's much too tall, but he's only nine years too old. Too bad he was born on August 22 and not October 2!
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone here signed his petition?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/petition-for-richard-iii/
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

And you are being unkind about Armitage?    Tut tut Paul.  The problem with your idea was that Cruise wouldn't realise he was too old (and too talentless ..) to play Richard.  Thank God it didn't come to pass.  I am trying to think of anyone Cruise could play in it that wouldn't make me want to throw up and I have decided - Henry Tudor or Morton!



________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 10:57
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

 
Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing my search for finance.
Paul

On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

Never heard of her so had to look her up.  She looks the part but just how good na actress is she, she hasn't done any meaty roles has she?


________________________________
From: Anne Milton <wobblydog1@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 14:05
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Elizabeth Woodville?



For Elizabeth, how about Tamsin Egerton. Right age, right build, beautiful, and a lovely actress.

Anne




To:
From: jltournier60@...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:02:27 -0300
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

 



I am disappointed. L

After all, it's harmless fun to speculate about who would be best for the
role. We often play this game on other lists that I'm on, and I think it's
worth doing, in a way, even tho no one in particular is listening to us.
Still, I think it's possible that things get bruited about that somehow get
into the ether.

Regarding Tom Cruise - the actor I love to hate! - I would like to see him
portray someone who loses his head! Particularly if he's a method actor. J

TTFN J

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

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From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:58 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
Richard?

Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her
great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be
a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can
play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who
want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with
the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard
if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he
could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old
would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen
something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine
what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing
my search for finance.
Paul

On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you
think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to
think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she
could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something
you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!






                       





------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

I think you're unkind about Tom; he can do "staring gormlessly into the middle distance" better than any actor I can think of.

I rather like Peter Dinklage as Lord Fauconberg. Minus silly blonde wig of course.

Eva Green as Margaret of Anjou.




________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 21:12
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real Richard?


 
And you are being unkind about Armitage?    Tut tut Paul.  The problem with your idea was that Cruise wouldn't realise he was too old (and too talentless ..) to play Richard.  Thank God it didn't come to pass.  I am trying to think of anyone Cruise could play in it that wouldn't make me want to throw up and I have decided - Henry Tudor or Morton!

________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 10:57
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

 
Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing my search for finance.
Paul

On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

liz williams wrote:
>
> And you are being unkind about Armitage?    Tut tut Paul.  The problem with your idea was that Cruise wouldn't realise he was too old (and too talentless ..) to play Richard.  Thank God it didn't come to pass.  I am trying to think of anyone Cruise could play in it that wouldn't make me want to throw up and I have decided - Henry Tudor or Morton!

Carol responds:

But could Tom Cruise manage a British accent? Better to give him a nonspeaking part. But I have another idea for Morton. How about Robert Carlyle, dearie? (That's an allusion to "Once upon a Time," for those who haven't seen it.

Look here. The man, the very man!

http://dearscotland.com/wp-content/themes/bloggingstream/thumb.php?src=http://dearscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Robert-Carlyle-Rumplestiltskin.jpg&h=430&w=430&zc=1&q=90

Darn, a long URL. Okay, here's a Tinyurl just in case:

http://tinyurl.com/97tn6qy

Carol

Oh, no. We've already established that he can't drive a van.

--- In , "b.eileen25" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe they should just have chosen Alan Ladd for the part....:0)
>
> --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he was
> > going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
> > would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed to
> > indefinitely and continuously on stage).
> >
> > Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
> > characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as possible -
> > for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
> > qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.
> >
> > Maria
> > ejbronte@
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
> > <cherryripe.eileenb@>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters that
> > > much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> > > Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Eileen,
> > > >
> > > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> > > >
> > > > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast – cast them taller than in
> > > > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > > > look taller, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > > > definitely taller than that!
> > > >
> > > > best,
> > > > Marianne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I learn so much on this board.

--- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@...> wrote:
>
> Nope: the movies have proven that Toulouse-Lautrec was actually Puerto
> Rican: Jose Ferrer played him once and so did John Leguizamo*. *And who
> can argue with that?!
>
> Maria
> ejbronte@...
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM, b.eileen25 <
> cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Maybe they should just have chosen Alan Ladd for the part....:0)
> >
> >
> > --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he
> > was
> > > going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
> > > would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed
> > to
> > > indefinitely and continuously on stage).
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
> > > characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as
> > possible -
> > > for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
> > > qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.
> > >
> > > Maria
> > > ejbronte@
> >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
> > > <cherryripe.eileenb@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters
> > that
> > > > much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> > > > Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Eileen,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > > > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > > > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> > > > >
> > > > > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast – cast them taller than in
> > > > > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > > > > look taller, anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > > > > definitely taller than that!
> > > > >
> > > > > best,
> > > > > Marianne
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Yeah, what about that Depardieu guy? I bet he'd like to do it.

What?

--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
>
>
> Maria Torres wrote:
> >
> > Nope: the movies have proven that Toulouse-Lautrec was actually Puerto Rican: Jose Ferrer played him once and so did John Leguizamo*. *And who can argue with that?!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> To play along with the spirit of this thread but bring it back to Richard, does everyone remember the person (not a member of this forum) who commented in response to a newspaper article about Richard that he wasn't English because he was descended from the (Angevin) Plantagenets? In that case, we'll need a French actor to play him!
>
> By the way, I once requested an online friend to PhotoShop a photograph of the American actor Ted Levine as Richard using the National Portrait Gallery photo as a frame. If anyone wants to see a portrait of a handsome, smiling Richard, I can upload it to our Files just for fun. I think he looks great. Unfortunately, besides being American and having altogether the wrong voice even ignoring the accent, Mr. Levine is now much too old for the part at about 54.
>
> At any rate, I like that photo better than the ones of Richard Armitage in the role, which you can see here:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/RichardIIIforRichardArmitage
>
> I'm assuming that these "portraits" are fan art, which explains the unshaved look and the mullet in the inset.
>

Pardon, Carol, I also meant to add... yes, could you upload the pic? I'd like to see it, and I bet everybody else here would too.

"mcjohn_wt_net" wrote:
>
> Pardon, Carol, I also meant to add... yes, could you upload the pic? I'd like to see it, and I bet everybody else here would too.
>

All right. Here goes. For those who aren't sure who Ted Levine is, he's most famous for two contrasting roles, the murderer Jame Gumb (aka Buffalo Bill) in "Silence of the Lambe" and the detective Captain Stottlemeyer in the TV series, "Monk." (Huh, kind of like the contrasting views of Richard III in Shakespeare and "Sunne in Splendour"!)

The photoshopped pic combines a shot of him as Alan Shepard in "From the Earth to the Moon" (1998) with, as I said earlier, the National Portrait Gallery portrait of Richard. Just imagine him with a more serious expression.

File coming up next post.

Carol

Perhaps that was his way of saying to the viewers, "ABANDON HOPE, ALL YE WHO EXPECT SOME SMIDGENLY GRAIN OF HISTORICAL AUTHENTICITY HERE."

I, for one, would have appreciated such a warning.

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Unlike Jonathan thingy in the Tudors who said he wouldn't dye his hair red (why didn't they make him wear a wig?) and still got the part of not-so-fat (even when he was meant to be on his last ulcerated legs) Henry.  Ridiculous.
>  
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mcjohn_wt_net <mcjohn@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 1:46
> Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?
>
>  
> She would if Miramax made it.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@> wrote:
> >
> > Did Cicely have red hair?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 16:40
> > Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?
> >
> > Perfect to play Richard from 16 - 32 in my script is .... oh sorry..... I'm keeping it to myself for now, but I will say I think Julianne Moore would be perfect to play mother!
> > Paul
> >
> > On 3 Oct 2012, at 01:38, justcarol67 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Carol Darling wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thirty years ago I contacted the classically trained American actor Mr. Peter Strauss and gave him tons of info about Richard and suggested he star in an accurate historical  biographical movie.  He actually physically could resemble Richard III as far at height, features and coloring, and is a superb dramatic actor, winning recognition for his craft.  If you view on YOUTUBE a segment from the TV drama "Jericho Mile, you  can imagine his portrayal of Richard, and his travails, on Bosworth and in  life.  Also view Mr. Strauss` fan page/website and consider his pictures from earlier life, and imagine him playing Richard III.  Its too late now for this superb actor, as his acting commitments took precedence, and time slipped away.  So I will always regret this missed opportunity at what I thought was perfect casting!  let me know what everyone thinks….
> > >
> > > Carol (the other Carol) responds:
> > >
> > > I'm not familiar with Peter Strauss, but since he's more than twice Richard's age at death, it's too late (as you point out). One of the many problems with portrayals of Richard (in or out of Shakespeare) is that he's always cast as being much older than he really was. (Ian McKellen is probably the extreme instance).
> > >
> > > But I thought that Philippa Langley was already working on a new Richard III movie. Or maybe I'm just hoping. If not, maybe someone more familiar than I am with British actors (other than Alan Rickman, also too old and with the wrong voice for the part) can suggest an actor to play the real Richard.
> > >
> > > I hope you'll forgive me for supplying a subject line for this thread. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.
> > >
> > > Carol, who should probably start calling herself Carol T now that there are two of us
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi all...I normally just "lurk and learn" but after reading all this about who should play Richard should this marvelous project ever come to fruition, I have to say i would nominate Martin Freeman. As my son says "Martin Freeman can convey more with his body language than most actors can using 200 words..." and I have to agree.

And he's the right size! :)

Margie

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:57 AM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her great grand daughter!
> But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can play the role.
> As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with the money!
> A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing my search for finance.
> Paul
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul -
> >
> > Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you think
> > would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> > although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to think
> > of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she could
> > do it! J
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> > Bale
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> > Richard?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> >
> >> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something you
> > can do digitally.
> >
> > Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> > Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>

I love Once Upon a Time and yes he could be creepy enough.
 
 

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 0:42
Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

 
liz williams wrote:
>
> And you are being unkind about Armitage?    Tut tut Paul.  The problem with your idea was that Cruise wouldn't realise he was too old (and too talentless ..) to play Richard.  Thank God it didn't come to pass.  I am trying to think of anyone Cruise could play in it that wouldn't make me want to throw up and I have decided - Henry Tudor or Morton!

Carol responds:

But could Tom Cruise manage a British accent? Better to give him a nonspeaking part. But I have another idea for Morton. How about Robert Carlyle, dearie? (That's an allusion to "Once upon a Time," for those who haven't seen it.

Look here. The man, the very man!

http://dearscotland.com/wp-content/themes/bloggingstream/thumb.php?src=http://dearscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Robert-Carlyle-Rumplestiltskin.jpg&h=430&w=430&zc=1&q=90

Darn, a long URL. Okay, here's a Tinyurl just in case:

http://tinyurl.com/97tn6qy

Carol


I love

Dear McJohn...where else can you learn as well as everything Ricardian, stuff about Charlton Heston, Alan Ladd, van driving, Touloouse Latrec and the problems of actors having short legs....Eileen

--- In , "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...> wrote:
>
> I learn so much on this board.
>
> --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@> wrote:
> >
> > Nope: the movies have proven that Toulouse-Lautrec was actually Puerto
> > Rican: Jose Ferrer played him once and so did John Leguizamo*. *And who
> > can argue with that?!
> >
> > Maria
> > ejbronte@
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM, b.eileen25 <
> > cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe they should just have chosen Alan Ladd for the part....:0)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he
> > > was
> > > > going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
> > > > would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed
> > > to
> > > > indefinitely and continuously on stage).
> > > >
> > > > Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
> > > > characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as
> > > possible -
> > > > for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
> > > > qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.
> > > >
> > > > Maria
> > > > ejbronte@
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
> > > > <cherryripe.eileenb@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters
> > > that
> > > > > much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> > > > > Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Eileen,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > > > > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > > > > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast – cast them taller than in
> > > > > > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > > > > > look taller, anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > > > > > definitely taller than that!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > best,
> > > > > > Marianne
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Quite so! Throw in the Indus Valley Civilization, the Apple/Android choice, and the filmography of Ed Wood, Jr., and I think we've got it all.

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Dear McJohn...where else can you learn as well as everything Ricardian, stuff about Charlton Heston, Alan Ladd, van driving, Touloouse Latrec and the problems of actors having short legs....Eileen
>
> --- In , "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@> wrote:
> >
> > I learn so much on this board.
> >
> > --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nope: the movies have proven that Toulouse-Lautrec was actually Puerto
> > > Rican: Jose Ferrer played him once and so did John Leguizamo*. *And who
> > > can argue with that?!
> > >
> > > Maria
> > > ejbronte@
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM, b.eileen25 <
> > > cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe they should just have chosen Alan Ladd for the part....:0)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Maria Torres <ejbronte@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, even there, Jose Ferrer managed to pull it off (legend has it he
> > > > was
> > > > > going to play Toulouse-Lautrec on stage, but John Huston convinced him it
> > > > > would much less painful to do it for a limited time for film as opposed
> > > > to
> > > > > indefinitely and continuously on stage).
> > > > >
> > > > > Nevertheless, if at all possible, I'd love to have the height of
> > > > > characters, fictional and otherwise, to be a nicely-reflected as
> > > > possible -
> > > > > for example, Jane Eyre played by a tall actress would negate several
> > > > > qualities and render several monologues extremely metaphorical.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maria
> > > > > ejbronte@
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, EileenB
> > > > > <cherryripe.eileenb@>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marianne...well at the end of the day I don't really think it matters
> > > > that
> > > > > > much about the height of an actor....unless of course he is playing
> > > > > > Toulouse Lautrec :0) Eileen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In , Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Eileen,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lol...They can always make the rest of the cast stand on
> > > > > > > > boxes.....uhhhh or have RA stand in a hole....and of course it
> > > > > > > > wouldnt matter when he was sitting down or riding a horse..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just 'scale up' the rest of the cast – cast them taller than in
> > > > > > > reality. With the women, the wired butterfly veils should make them
> > > > > > > look taller, anyway.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And after all, if he can play a dwarf in 'The Hobbit'... Richard's
> > > > > > > definitely taller than that!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > best,
> > > > > > > Marianne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

She's fabulous. She played Mary Lennox in the RSC's Secret garden, then recently was Guinevere in that Channel 4 Arthurian thing.

Anne



To:
From: ferrymansdaughter@...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 21:17:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real Elizabeth Woodville?





Never heard of her so had to look her up. She looks the part but just how good na actress is she, she hasn't done any meaty roles has she?

________________________________
From: Anne Milton <wobblydog1@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 14:05
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Elizabeth Woodville?

For Elizabeth, how about Tamsin Egerton. Right age, right build, beautiful, and a lovely actress.

Anne

To:
From: jltournier60@...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:02:27 -0300
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Richard?



I am disappointed. L

After all, it's harmless fun to speculate about who would be best for the
role. We often play this game on other lists that I'm on, and I think it's
worth doing, in a way, even tho no one in particular is listening to us.
Still, I think it's possible that things get bruited about that somehow get
into the ether.

Regarding Tom Cruise - the actor I love to hate! - I would like to see him
portray someone who loses his head! Particularly if he's a method actor. J

TTFN J

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:58 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
Richard?

Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her
great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be
a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can
play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who
want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with
the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard
if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he
could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old
would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen
something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine
what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing
my search for finance.
Paul

On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you
think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to
think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she
could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something
you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!







------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Oh I saw the first episode of the Arthurian thing - then turned it off in disgust and went and read my Mary Stewart instead. 
 
At the least RSC will mean she's a proper actress.


________________________________
From: Anne Milton <wobblydog1@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2012, 19:32
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Elizabeth Woodville?


She's fabulous. She played Mary Lennox in the RSC's Secret garden, then recently was Guinevere in that Channel 4 Arthurian thing.

Anne



To:
From: ferrymansdaughter@...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 21:17:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real Elizabeth Woodville?

 



Never heard of her so had to look her up.  She looks the part but just how good na actress is she, she hasn't done any meaty roles has she?

________________________________
From: Anne Milton <wobblydog1@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 14:05
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Elizabeth Woodville?

For Elizabeth, how about Tamsin Egerton. Right age, right build, beautiful, and a lovely actress.

Anne

To:
From: jltournier60@...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:02:27 -0300
Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the real Richard?

 

I am disappointed. L

After all, it's harmless fun to speculate about who would be best for the
role. We often play this game on other lists that I'm on, and I think it's
worth doing, in a way, even tho no one in particular is listening to us.
Still, I think it's possible that things get bruited about that somehow get
into the ether.

Regarding Tom Cruise - the actor I love to hate! - I would like to see him
portray someone who loses his head! Particularly if he's a method actor. J

TTFN J

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:58 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
Richard?

Cate would be rather good for Elizabeth Woodville. She's already played her
great grand daughter!
But I'm not playing this game any more. Who you find attractive shouldn't be
a part of the calculations but who is the right age, looks right and can
play the role.
As for RA saying he is considering Warwick! I know of many, many actors who
want to play Hamlet, but an actor has to wait to be asked by the men with
the money!
A couple of years ago I was asked if I would consider Tom Cruise for Richard
if this guy I met got my script to him! I screamed, but then said if he
could organise it I'd take the meeting, in the hope that the 40 year old
would realise that he isn't right for it, in any way, but might have seen
something else in the story he could do [though personally I cannot imagine
what!] Of course, it hasn't happened yet! I live in hope, while continuing
my search for finance.
Paul

On 4 Oct 2012, at 10:44, Johanne Tournier wrote:

> Hi, Paul -
>
> Ah, but you were coy about revealing your own choice. So - who do you
think
> would be the best actor to play the role? Not Cate Blanchett, I trust -
> although she did a pretty creditable job of playing Bob Dylan. Come to
think
> of it, there's some resemblance between Dylan and Richard - maybe she
could
> do it! J
>
>
>
> Johanne (tongue firmly in cheek)
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:34 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real
> Richard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct 2012, at 01:25, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> What you really want is the way with a line, and that is NOT something
you
> can do digitally.
>
> Exactly, and RA is very much a one horse trick.
> Paul - ducking while the RA fans attack:-)
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!



                       



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Yahoo! Groups Links






                       





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Yahoo! Groups Links

For a soulful portrail, an interesting choice might have been McFayden, the actor who played in "LIttle Dorrit" and the Abbot in "Pillars of Fire." Probably too late now though.



-----Original Message-----
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: <>
Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2012 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the real Richard?




I don't know how tall Armitage is - 6 foot? - but we are all taller now than they were then (except Edward IV of course). i just think he has the right look. He is also too old as he is 41 I think.

Even if there was a movie, they wouldn't get it right and plenty of people will be dissatisfied. The important thing would be to have a damn good actor.

________________________________
From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 1:44
Subject: Re: Who should play the real Richard?


I think Richard Armitage is way to tall. I just think, my choice of Peter Strauss, 30 years ago was ideal, he was 35 at the time, and looked very much like the existing contemporary portraits of Richard. Its a shame Richard was portrayed by actors, much older. Its not going to be easy, to get it just right, in a modern movie. I think Richard had such terrible luck in his short life, and after death, it sure didn't get any better. I just hope we have a superb, nice looking, perfect fit, if the movie does get made.

And Chelsea, the posh totty, in the two recent St Trinians films. She's certainly versatile !

Richard G

--- In , Anne Milton <wobblydog1@...> wrote:
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>
> She's fabulous. She played Mary Lennox in the RSC's Secret garden,
> then recently was Guinevere in that Channel 4 Arthurian thing.
>
> Anne
>
> To:
> From: ferrymansdaughter@...
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 21:17:20 +0100
> Subject: Re: Re: Who should play the
> real Elizabeth Woodville?
>
> Never heard of her so had to look her up. She looks the part but
> just how good na actress is she, she hasn't done any meaty roles
> has she?
> ________________________________
> From: Anne Milton <wobblydog1@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012, 14:05
> Subject: RE: Re: Who should play the
> real Elizabeth Woodville?
>
> For Elizabeth, how about Tamsin Egerton. Right age, right build,
> beautiful, and a lovely actress.
>
> Anne

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