The reburial
The reburial
2012-10-07 12:30:21
Information which science can gain from human remains is increasing rapidly and continually and there is every prospect that this will continue.Just think, for instance, how much one could learn now from the urn bones if only one bone was still available.
Perhaps a little piece of the bones from Leicester could remain unburied - a tooth, maybe? Then, when, more knowledge is possible, there will not be a problem with exhumation. Was reading recently that at some future date it's likely that an accurate picture of a person's face will be capable of being drawn from DNA, and who knows what else.
Just sayin'...
Perhaps a little piece of the bones from Leicester could remain unburied - a tooth, maybe? Then, when, more knowledge is possible, there will not be a problem with exhumation. Was reading recently that at some future date it's likely that an accurate picture of a person's face will be capable of being drawn from DNA, and who knows what else.
Just sayin'...
Re: The reburial
2012-10-07 19:27:00
It is such a loaded situation, having access to Richards remains, and the temptation to do extensive research with modern technology to answer so many questions& and then having to deal with the moral, religious, social responsibility of not "playing with" human remains. We are sitting on a fence with this, and I don't see who really has any top authority to tell us what to do or not do. Any suggestions from anyone, whom do we ask&&?????
Re: The reburial
2012-10-07 19:57:54
Hi, Carol -
It's a good question. One could say that the whole purpose of the excavation
is to give Richard a proper burial - but then he did receive a proper (tho
modest) burial at the time of his death.
Still, it is everyone's intent, it appears, to give him a more fitting
memorial service and a reinterment in a cathedral church. I think that it
would be acceptable for a small piece of bone or a tooth to be retained for
future testing, as long as it is done carefully and the remains are always
treated respectfully. I would rather see that than another disinterment in
50 or 100 years or whatever. But it does seem to me that there should be a
drive to do some testing on other remains, especially if there are any about
whom there is doubt as to identity, cause of death, age at death, etc. etc.,
like the bones in the urn in Westminster Abbey.
Would it be possible for the Queen to be petitioned to allow the testing of
those bones? I think there is a public interest to be served in doing so.
BTW, Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to everyone here!
Johanne
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It is such a loaded situation, having access to Richards remains, and the
temptation to do extensive research with modern technology to answer so many
questions. and then having to deal with the moral, religious, social
responsibility of not "playing with" human remains. We are sitting on a
fence with this, and I don't see who really has any top authority to tell us
what to do or not do. Any suggestions from anyone, whom do we ask..?????
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It's a good question. One could say that the whole purpose of the excavation
is to give Richard a proper burial - but then he did receive a proper (tho
modest) burial at the time of his death.
Still, it is everyone's intent, it appears, to give him a more fitting
memorial service and a reinterment in a cathedral church. I think that it
would be acceptable for a small piece of bone or a tooth to be retained for
future testing, as long as it is done carefully and the remains are always
treated respectfully. I would rather see that than another disinterment in
50 or 100 years or whatever. But it does seem to me that there should be a
drive to do some testing on other remains, especially if there are any about
whom there is doubt as to identity, cause of death, age at death, etc. etc.,
like the bones in the urn in Westminster Abbey.
Would it be possible for the Queen to be petitioned to allow the testing of
those bones? I think there is a public interest to be served in doing so.
BTW, Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to everyone here!
Johanne
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Carol Darling
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 3:27 PM
To:
Subject: Re: The reburial
It is such a loaded situation, having access to Richards remains, and the
temptation to do extensive research with modern technology to answer so many
questions. and then having to deal with the moral, religious, social
responsibility of not "playing with" human remains. We are sitting on a
fence with this, and I don't see who really has any top authority to tell us
what to do or not do. Any suggestions from anyone, whom do we ask..?????
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Re: The reburial
2012-10-07 20:04:22
why not follow the example of medieval burials for those where to be worshipped. the bones of the former said mortal where disbursed to various locations to buried. and these were deeply religious times. ergo, the religious, social and moral attitudes of richard's time would be met, vs the restrictive aka politically correct ones we have in our modern era.
i do agree with the post of preserving a tooth or some piece of dna containing remains for future technological analyst. imagine if "they" had done that in 1933 with the "princes" remains. it certainly would be able to answer a load of questions now.
--- On Sun, 10/7/12, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
Subject: Re: The reburial
To:
Received: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 2:26 PM
It is such a loaded situation, having access to Richards remains, and the temptation to do extensive research with modern technology to answer so many questions& and then having to deal with the moral, religious, social responsibility of not "playing with" human remains. We are sitting on a fence with this, and I don't see who really has any top authority to tell us what to do or not do. Any suggestions from anyone, whom do we ask&&?????
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i do agree with the post of preserving a tooth or some piece of dna containing remains for future technological analyst. imagine if "they" had done that in 1933 with the "princes" remains. it certainly would be able to answer a load of questions now.
--- On Sun, 10/7/12, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
Subject: Re: The reburial
To:
Received: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 2:26 PM
It is such a loaded situation, having access to Richards remains, and the temptation to do extensive research with modern technology to answer so many questions& and then having to deal with the moral, religious, social responsibility of not "playing with" human remains. We are sitting on a fence with this, and I don't see who really has any top authority to tell us what to do or not do. Any suggestions from anyone, whom do we ask&&?????
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