Entrance fees

Sadly in this time of austerity the upkeep for a medieval monument be it
Church, Cathedral , Minster or Castle is horrendous, as I assume that no one
would want them to slowly crumble away or be covered by a council car park
an entrance fee is charged, however no place of worship charges admission
for a church service so for those of you wishing to visit your favorite King
etc, try going to a church service! You can do this and if you are lucky
listen to English Plainsong with very little imagination you can slip back
500 years you never know you may enjoy it!





From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:17 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Richard III Foundation's petition
for burial in York et al







--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , marion cheatham
<marioncheatham2003@...> wrote:
>
This is exactly my feelings too Marion....Donations fine! Fixed and
overpriced entrance fees No....!Eileen

>
> The problem I have with Westminster Abbey or York Minster as burial places
is that they are tourist attractions and therefore cost a great deal to
enter. I would like the chance to pay my respects to Richard (if it is
him) whenever I want not whenever I can afford it. It is a disgrace that
we have to pay to enter churches which have former monarchs remains in them
at all. After all my ancestors probably fought for one side or the other
at the time, or at least paid taxes to them.

>
> And before everyone comes in - Yes I have traced one side of my family to
the 1600's so I am English. Just wish I knew which side any of them fought
on.
>
> Also wanted to say fantastic discussions, great to have such widespread
debate on the forum, I am having difficulty keeping up with all the posts.
>
> Love it
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@...>
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 12:17
> Subject: Re: Richard III Foundation's petition
for burial in York
>
>
> Â
> Dear Karen,
>
> > Yes, the queen is head of the Church of England. Parliament isn't,
> > and it's
> > parliament that gets petitions. I'm fairly sure they can't just
> > order York
> > Minster to offer burial for the (presumed) remains of Richard on
> > the basis
> > of however many signatures.
>
> But even with the Church of England, the Queen is basically just
> there to rubber-stamp what the Archbishop of Canterbury and his bunch
> say, just as she's only there to rubber-stamp whatever Parliament says.
>
> cheers,
> Marianne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I see where your coming from George but when you are visiting somewhere a distance from home, and only a limited amount of time it can be difficult to time your visit to coincide with a service....in any case it is nice to wander around peacefully at quiet times....Tewkesbury Abbey for example....always welcoming and links with the Wars of the Roses. George Duke of Clarence and Isobel his wife are buried there as is Edward of Lancaster.

I am not whinging about paying or donating something...But in the case of Westminster, I personally think it is very expensive.


--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> Sadly in this time of austerity the upkeep for a medieval monument be it
> Church, Cathedral , Minster or Castle is horrendous, as I assume that no one
> would want them to slowly crumble away or be covered by a council car park
> an entrance fee is charged, however no place of worship charges admission
> for a church service so for those of you wishing to visit your favorite King
> etc, try going to a church service! You can do this and if you are lucky
> listen to English Plainsong with very little imagination you can slip back
> 500 years you never know you may enjoy it!
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:17 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Richard III Foundation's petition
> for burial in York et al
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , marion cheatham
> <marioncheatham2003@> wrote:
> >
> This is exactly my feelings too Marion....Donations fine! Fixed and
> overpriced entrance fees No....!Eileen
>
> >
> > The problem I have with Westminster Abbey or York Minster as burial places
> is that they are tourist attractions and therefore cost a great deal to
> enter. I would like the chance to pay my respects to Richard (if it is
> him) whenever I want not whenever I can afford it. It is a disgrace that
> we have to pay to enter churches which have former monarchs remains in them
> at all. After all my ancestors probably fought for one side or the other
> at the time, or at least paid taxes to them.
>
> >
> > And before everyone comes in - Yes I have traced one side of my family to
> the 1600's so I am English. Just wish I knew which side any of them fought
> on.
> >
> > Also wanted to say fantastic discussions, great to have such widespread
> debate on the forum, I am having difficulty keeping up with all the posts.
> >
> > Love it
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@>
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 12:17
> > Subject: Re: Richard III Foundation's petition
> for burial in York
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Dear Karen,
> >
> > > Yes, the queen is head of the Church of England. Parliament isn't,
> > > and it's
> > > parliament that gets petitions. I'm fairly sure they can't just
> > > order York
> > > Minster to offer burial for the (presumed) remains of Richard on
> > > the basis
> > > of however many signatures.
> >
> > But even with the Church of England, the Queen is basically just
> > there to rubber-stamp what the Archbishop of Canterbury and his bunch
> > say, just as she's only there to rubber-stamp whatever Parliament says.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Marianne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I perfectly understand the situation of limited time and it is difficult but not impossible to find both a quiet time and a relatively inexpensive visit Westminster Abbey probably is not on the horizon when it comes to expense however you can get a season ticket for £32.00 which allows you to visit as often as you may wish ( though it is a royal peculiar and subject to HM )
Sadly charging admission is neither new nor limited to the UK

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 12, 2012, at 5:38 PM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:

> I see where your coming from George but when you are visiting somewhere a distance from home, and only a limited amount of time it can be difficult to time your visit to coincide with a service....in any case it is nice to wander around peacefully at quiet times....Tewkesbury Abbey for example....always welcoming and links with the Wars of the Roses. George Duke of Clarence and Isobel his wife are buried there as is Edward of Lancaster.
>
> I am not whinging about paying or donating something...But in the case of Westminster, I personally think it is very expensive.
>
> --- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sadly in this time of austerity the upkeep for a medieval monument be it
> > Church, Cathedral , Minster or Castle is horrendous, as I assume that no one
> > would want them to slowly crumble away or be covered by a council car park
> > an entrance fee is charged, however no place of worship charges admission
> > for a church service so for those of you wishing to visit your favorite King
> > etc, try going to a church service! You can do this and if you are lucky
> > listen to English Plainsong with very little imagination you can slip back
> > 500 years you never know you may enjoy it!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:17 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Richard III Foundation's petition
> > for burial in York et al
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , marion cheatham
> > <marioncheatham2003@> wrote:
> > >
> > This is exactly my feelings too Marion....Donations fine! Fixed and
> > overpriced entrance fees No....!Eileen
> >
> > >
> > > The problem I have with Westminster Abbey or York Minster as burial places
> > is that they are tourist attractions and therefore cost a great deal to
> > enter. I would like the chance to pay my respects to Richard (if it is
> > him) whenever I want not whenever I can afford it. It is a disgrace that
> > we have to pay to enter churches which have former monarchs remains in them
> > at all. After all my ancestors probably fought for one side or the other
> > at the time, or at least paid taxes to them.
> >
> > >
> > > And before everyone comes in - Yes I have traced one side of my family to
> > the 1600's so I am English. Just wish I knew which side any of them fought
> > on.
> > >
> > > Also wanted to say fantastic discussions, great to have such widespread
> > debate on the forum, I am having difficulty keeping up with all the posts.
> > >
> > > Love it
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Dr M M Gilchrist <docm@>
> > > To:
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 12:17
> > > Subject: Re: Richard III Foundation's petition
> > for burial in York
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Dear Karen,
> > >
> > > > Yes, the queen is head of the Church of England. Parliament isn't,
> > > > and it's
> > > > parliament that gets petitions. I'm fairly sure they can't just
> > > > order York
> > > > Minster to offer burial for the (presumed) remains of Richard on
> > > > the basis
> > > > of however many signatures.
> > >
> > > But even with the Church of England, the Queen is basically just
> > > there to rubber-stamp what the Archbishop of Canterbury and his bunch
> > > say, just as she's only there to rubber-stamp whatever Parliament says.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Marianne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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