Astronomical data

Astronomical data

2012-10-16 07:02:33
Sorry for an odd astronomical query out of the blue - but does anyone know what time of the day the solar eclipse occurred on 16th March 1485?
I have found a contemporary German reference, where it states that the eclipse took place during the third hour during mealtime. I'm not sure what this refers to. My own data suggests that it took place at about 4 A.M. but in England, March, it would still be pitch black at this time of the morning and no one would have seen an eclipse. Does anyone have the faintest idea???
Thanks so much,
Barbara

Re: Astronomical data

2012-10-16 07:19:02
Dorothea Preis
The Bible refers a few times to "the third hour", which is 9 am.  The same time is given for the Christian "terce", see here:  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Third+Hour.%c2%a0 At 9 am the eclipse would be visible in March, but the reference to mealtime is a bit strange.

Dorothea




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Sorry for an odd astronomical query out of the blue - but does anyone know what time of the day the solar eclipse occurred on 16th March 1485?
I have found a contemporary German reference, where it states that the eclipse took place during the third hour during mealtime. I'm not sure what this refers to. My own data suggests that it took place at about 4 A.M. but in England, March, it would still be pitch black at this time of the morning and no one would have seen an eclipse. Does anyone have the faintest idea???
Thanks so much,
Barbara




Re: Astronomical data

2012-10-16 07:58:35
barbara
Brilliant, Dorothea  thank you so much.

XX



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The Bible refers a few times to "the third hour", which is 9 am. The same time is given for the Christian "terce", see here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Third+Hour. At 9 am the eclipse would be visible in March, but the reference to mealtime is a bit strange.

Dorothea

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Sorry for an odd astronomical query out of the blue - but does anyone know what time of the day the solar eclipse occurred on 16th March 1485?
I have found a contemporary German reference, where it states that the eclipse took place during the third hour during mealtime. I'm not sure what this refers to. My own data suggests that it took place at about 4 A.M. but in England, March, it would still be pitch black at this time of the morning and no one would have seen an eclipse. Does anyone have the faintest idea???
Thanks so much,
Barbara







Re: Astronomical data

2012-10-17 16:51:37
blancsanglier1452
According to NASA it took place at approx. 14:00 hours TT which is GMT (UTC) +64 seconds.

Still a funny time for a meal, unless it was a reference to the mealtime in Germany...?

But hey-

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> Brilliant, Dorothea â€" thank you so much.
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> The Bible refers a few times to "the third hour", which is 9 am. The same time is given for the Christian "terce", see here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Third+Hour. At 9 am the eclipse would be visible in March, but the reference to mealtime is a bit strange.
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> Sorry for an odd astronomical query out of the blue - but does anyone know what time of the day the solar eclipse occurred on 16th March 1485?
> I have found a contemporary German reference, where it states that the eclipse took place during the third hour during mealtime. I'm not sure what this refers to. My own data suggests that it took place at about 4 A.M. but in England, March, it would still be pitch black at this time of the morning and no one would have seen an eclipse. Does anyone have the faintest idea???
> Thanks so much,
> Barbara
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Re: Astronomical data

2012-10-18 23:57:17
barbara
That's really kind of you  thanks so much for looking it up. It confuses me as to the third hour' and the mealtime but maybe they did things very differently in medieval Germany. I presume there are no contemporary mentions of the time as coinciding with Queen Anne's death?



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According to NASA it took place at approx. 14:00 hours TT which is GMT (UTC) +64 seconds.

Still a funny time for a meal, unless it was a reference to the mealtime in Germany...?

But hey-

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> Brilliant, Dorothea â¬" thank you so much.
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> The Bible refers a few times to "the third hour", which is 9 am. The same time is given for the Christian "terce", see here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Third+Hour. At 9 am the eclipse would be visible in March, but the reference to mealtime is a bit strange.
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> Dorothea
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> Sorry for an odd astronomical query out of the blue - but does anyone know what time of the day the solar eclipse occurred on 16th March 1485?
> I have found a contemporary German reference, where it states that the eclipse took place during the third hour during mealtime. I'm not sure what this refers to. My own data suggests that it took place at about 4 A.M. but in England, March, it would still be pitch black at this time of the morning and no one would have seen an eclipse. Does anyone have the faintest idea???
> Thanks so much,
> Barbara
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