Anne Neville's last illness...
Anne Neville's last illness...
2012-10-16 13:55:03
Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
Poor crop of new books previously Ann Neville's last illness
2012-10-17 22:30:56
Eileen
From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
Elaine
--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
>
> Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
>
> I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
>
> Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
>
From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
Elaine
--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
>
> Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
>
> I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
>
> Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
>
Re: Poor crop of new books previously Ann Neville's last illness
2012-10-17 22:52:07
Yes please Elaine...I would be interested to see them...thank you.
The other book was England Queens: The Biography by Elizabeth Norton...the part on Queen Anne was pretty dire...Norton is saying that Anne went along with Richard in keeping her mother a prisoner at Middleham for fear she would remarry....then later on had a rather horrible life with Richard. And yet when I checked up on Amazon someone had written a very good review on this book! No accounting for taste I suppose...Eileen
--- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@...> wrote:
>
> Eileen
>
> From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
> Elaine
>
> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
> >
> > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
> >
> > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
> >
> > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
> >
>
The other book was England Queens: The Biography by Elizabeth Norton...the part on Queen Anne was pretty dire...Norton is saying that Anne went along with Richard in keeping her mother a prisoner at Middleham for fear she would remarry....then later on had a rather horrible life with Richard. And yet when I checked up on Amazon someone had written a very good review on this book! No accounting for taste I suppose...Eileen
--- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@...> wrote:
>
> Eileen
>
> From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
> Elaine
>
> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
> >
> > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
> >
> > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
> >
> > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
> >
>
Re: Poor crop of new books previously Ann Neville's last illness
2012-10-18 03:21:25
On the amazon.co.uk site Gristwood's book is given alot of praise from Alison Weir. Enough Said.
Helen
--- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@...> wrote:
>
> Eileen
>
> From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
> Elaine
>
> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
> >
> > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
> >
> > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
> >
> > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
> >
>
Helen
--- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@...> wrote:
>
> Eileen
>
> From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
> Elaine
>
> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
> >
> > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
> >
> > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
> >
> > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
> >
>
Re: Poor crop of new books previously Ann Neville's last illness
2012-10-22 16:01:28
Eileen
Sorry for the delay, I have tried to upload the article and letter as one pdf document but it is too large as there is a restriction of 5120k. I tried everything I can think off which accounts for the delay as I have been tearing my hair out this end! If anyone knows a way round this - help! The other solution is for me to send the images offline to you. What do you think?
Elaine
--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Yes please Elaine...I would be interested to see them...thank you.
>
> The other book was England Queens: The Biography by Elizabeth Norton...the part on Queen Anne was pretty dire...Norton is saying that Anne went along with Richard in keeping her mother a prisoner at Middleham for fear she would remarry....then later on had a rather horrible life with Richard. And yet when I checked up on Amazon someone had written a very good review on this book! No accounting for taste I suppose...Eileen
>
>
> --- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@> wrote:
> >
> > Eileen
> >
> > From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
> > Elaine
> >
> > --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
> > >
> > > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
> > >
> > > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
> > >
> > > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
> > >
> >
>
Sorry for the delay, I have tried to upload the article and letter as one pdf document but it is too large as there is a restriction of 5120k. I tried everything I can think off which accounts for the delay as I have been tearing my hair out this end! If anyone knows a way round this - help! The other solution is for me to send the images offline to you. What do you think?
Elaine
--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Yes please Elaine...I would be interested to see them...thank you.
>
> The other book was England Queens: The Biography by Elizabeth Norton...the part on Queen Anne was pretty dire...Norton is saying that Anne went along with Richard in keeping her mother a prisoner at Middleham for fear she would remarry....then later on had a rather horrible life with Richard. And yet when I checked up on Amazon someone had written a very good review on this book! No accounting for taste I suppose...Eileen
>
>
> --- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@> wrote:
> >
> > Eileen
> >
> > From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
> > Elaine
> >
> > --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
> > >
> > > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
> > >
> > > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
> > >
> > > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
> > >
> >
>
Re: Poor crop of new books previously Ann Neville's last illness
2012-10-22 16:24:21
Yes please Elaine.......that would be lovely...thank you...Eileen
--- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@...> wrote:
>
> Eileen
> Sorry for the delay, I have tried to upload the article and letter as one pdf document but it is too large as there is a restriction of 5120k. I tried everything I can think off which accounts for the delay as I have been tearing my hair out this end! If anyone knows a way round this - help! The other solution is for me to send the images offline to you. What do you think?
> Elaine
>
> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes please Elaine...I would be interested to see them...thank you.
> >
> > The other book was England Queens: The Biography by Elizabeth Norton...the part on Queen Anne was pretty dire...Norton is saying that Anne went along with Richard in keeping her mother a prisoner at Middleham for fear she would remarry....then later on had a rather horrible life with Richard. And yet when I checked up on Amazon someone had written a very good review on this book! No accounting for taste I suppose...Eileen
> >
> >
> > --- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Eileen
> > >
> > > From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
> > > Elaine
> > >
> > > --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > > > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
> > > >
> > > > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
> > > >
> > > > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
> > > >
> > > > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
--- In , "ellrosa1452" <kathryn198@...> wrote:
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> Eileen
> Sorry for the delay, I have tried to upload the article and letter as one pdf document but it is too large as there is a restriction of 5120k. I tried everything I can think off which accounts for the delay as I have been tearing my hair out this end! If anyone knows a way round this - help! The other solution is for me to send the images offline to you. What do you think?
> Elaine
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> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
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> > Yes please Elaine...I would be interested to see them...thank you.
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> > The other book was England Queens: The Biography by Elizabeth Norton...the part on Queen Anne was pretty dire...Norton is saying that Anne went along with Richard in keeping her mother a prisoner at Middleham for fear she would remarry....then later on had a rather horrible life with Richard. And yet when I checked up on Amazon someone had written a very good review on this book! No accounting for taste I suppose...Eileen
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> > > From the description it sounds like Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood; her attempt to portray the women of the War of the Roses. And yes, it does have an anti-Richard bias. There was an article in the BBC History magazine for September. I wrote a letter to the BBC in protest at the mistakes and the lack of depth, understanding and research shown by Gristwood and the magazine continuing to publish "popular" writers at the expense of serious historical research. I'm afraid there will probably be more of these sort of histories written by writers who are not experts of the period. If you are interested I can add the article and the letter to the files. The BBC have said they might publish it but that won't be until next month. They did publish one I wrote earlier in the year about the answer given by their supposed expert about why she thought there were no credible imposters to Edward V.
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> > > --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
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> > > > Does anyone know the source of the story that the bells were tolled, at Westminster, announcing the death of Queen Anne, before she had actually expired. This has been said was a ploy on Richard's part to scare his wife witless and thus help her along as she was taking too long to die.
> > > > I have come across this story several time and Rosemary Hawley Jarman wiound it into her book "We speak no Treason"...although in that case the bells are tolled accidentally and Richard comforts a desperately upset Anne.
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> > > > Im sure its not Croyland....Could it be Hall's....
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> > > > I came across this story yet again yesterday while I was browsing through the latest history books in Waterstone's. I cannot recall the name of the book as I looked at about three of them. I think it was called the Queens of England or similar..but it was stating this story as fact and that Anne on hearing the bells made her way to where Richard was, and he slyly reassured her that she was overreaccting or whatever, whereupon she succumbed a few days later.
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> > > > Im afraid I did not make a proper note of the book's title...but I was distracted by a gentleman standing a couple of feet away from me who was wheezing so badly it sounded like the death rattle. I found this quite irritating although this is irrational as it is a shop and not a library and one should be allowed to wheeze if one wants...however...I also took a quick peep at another book before I was finally driven off...something like Blood Sisters or Cousins which was equally disparaging about Richard...At this point as I was losing the will to live I left. Some of these new books coming out, well pouring out, are really poor. There is nothing new, no new suggestions etc., They really are the pits....Eileen
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