*The Coronation of Richard III*
*The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 10:37:21
Hi, All -
I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
extraordinary devotion to her?
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
extraordinary devotion to her?
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 10:45:42
How much???
Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book - no matter how good it is :-)
Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book - no matter how good it is :-)
Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 10:57:58
Hi, Paul -
I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
not be totally decadent. J
I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
*Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
TTFN <grin>
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
How much???
Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
no matter how good it is :-)
Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>
> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
not be totally decadent. J
I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
*Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
TTFN <grin>
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
How much???
Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
no matter how good it is :-)
Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>
> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 11:29:34
I have this book and like it very very much.
Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At
each click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these
books. You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
And then the deed was done.
Maria
ejbronte@...
(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At
each click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these
books. You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
And then the deed was done.
Maria
ejbronte@...
(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 11:32:55
On 01/11/2012 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Would the decision to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
certainly married at that point.
Best wishes
Christine
> Would the decision to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
certainly married at that point.
Best wishes
Christine
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 11:49:11
Hi, again -
The one new copy that was being offered is listed at over $400 - so from
that point of view, $149 is almost a bargain. <tongue in cheek>
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
How much???
Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
no matter how good it is :-)
Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>
> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
The one new copy that was being offered is listed at over $400 - so from
that point of view, $149 is almost a bargain. <tongue in cheek>
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
How much???
Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
no matter how good it is :-)
Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
about
> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
reward
> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>
> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 11:51:41
Hi, Maria -
You're right in a sense - I spent $1000 for original editions of the five
Conan books by Robert E. Howard. I didn't need them either - but they were
the first "adult" books that I read when I was in the third grade, so they
held a special attraction for me. C'est la vie! (I wonder what I could sell
them for?)
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Maria Torres
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:29 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
I have this book and like it very very much.
Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At each
click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these books.
You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
And then the deed was done.
Maria
ejbronte@...
(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was
> time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good
> condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping
> and handling for it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed
> to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for
> that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would
> the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as
> some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
You're right in a sense - I spent $1000 for original editions of the five
Conan books by Robert E. Howard. I didn't need them either - but they were
the first "adult" books that I read when I was in the third grade, so they
held a special attraction for me. C'est la vie! (I wonder what I could sell
them for?)
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Maria Torres
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:29 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
I have this book and like it very very much.
Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At each
click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these books.
You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
And then the deed was done.
Maria
ejbronte@...
(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi, All -
>
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was
> time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good
> condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping
> and handling for it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed
> to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for
> that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would
> the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as
> some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 12:01:39
My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double
coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign
is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Christine
Headley
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:33 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
On 01/11/2012 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Would the decision to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
certainly married at that point.
Best wishes
Christine
coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign
is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Christine
Headley
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:33 AM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
On 01/11/2012 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Would the decision to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
certainly married at that point.
Best wishes
Christine
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:05:06
Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:12:19
Johanne Tournier wrote:
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it. It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
Carol responds:
Wow, Johanne! $149.25 (plus shipping)! That's extraordinary loyalty! I agree with you that Richard's decision to have Anne crowned with him demonstrates his love and respect for her. Contrast Henry Tudor, who waited, IIRC, a year before marrying Elizabeth of York (to emphasize that his "claim" to the throne was not through her) and another two years (again, IIRC) to have her crowned--several months after she had given birth to their first son!
Can you find out for me whether Richard's mother attended the coronation? I know that she didn't walk in the procession since her daughter (And Richard's sister) Elizabeth, Duchess of Suffolk, walked in state alone. They would have been together, surely, if Cecily had participated, but since she was sixty-eight at the time, she certainly had good reason not to walk through the streets in June wearing heavy robes and a coronet. Baldwin, who thinks that Cecily disapproved of Richard's decision to take the crown, says that she didn't appear at the banquet afterward but says nothing about the coronation itself. (The Archbishop of Canterbury didn't appear at the banquet, either, but, again, Baldwin to the contrary, the reason is probably age rather than disapproval. He died soon after crowning Henry VII.) At any rate, I'd be interested in learning what Sutton and Hammond have to say about both those people, especially Richard's mother.
Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood claim was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
Carol
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it. It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
Carol responds:
Wow, Johanne! $149.25 (plus shipping)! That's extraordinary loyalty! I agree with you that Richard's decision to have Anne crowned with him demonstrates his love and respect for her. Contrast Henry Tudor, who waited, IIRC, a year before marrying Elizabeth of York (to emphasize that his "claim" to the throne was not through her) and another two years (again, IIRC) to have her crowned--several months after she had given birth to their first son!
Can you find out for me whether Richard's mother attended the coronation? I know that she didn't walk in the procession since her daughter (And Richard's sister) Elizabeth, Duchess of Suffolk, walked in state alone. They would have been together, surely, if Cecily had participated, but since she was sixty-eight at the time, she certainly had good reason not to walk through the streets in June wearing heavy robes and a coronet. Baldwin, who thinks that Cecily disapproved of Richard's decision to take the crown, says that she didn't appear at the banquet afterward but says nothing about the coronation itself. (The Archbishop of Canterbury didn't appear at the banquet, either, but, again, Baldwin to the contrary, the reason is probably age rather than disapproval. He died soon after crowning Henry VII.) At any rate, I'd be interested in learning what Sutton and Hammond have to say about both those people, especially Richard's mother.
Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood claim was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
Carol
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:17:32
Good Luck Paul!! It would be wonderful for this to happen
Vickie
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com
>
> or mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Vickie
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com
>
> or mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:29:20
Paul -
That is really exciting!
Are you in the UK? Do they have a program of grants for filmmakers, as
Canada does? Your film should be of interest to the powers-that-be, given
the timely theme.
I am very excited for you and you will be in my thoughts. Keeping fingers
crossed!
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:05 PM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to
get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers
crossed!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold,
so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them
and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all
the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was
involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>
> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book
-
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
<mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
<mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
That is really exciting!
Are you in the UK? Do they have a program of grants for filmmakers, as
Canada does? Your film should be of interest to the powers-that-be, given
the timely theme.
I am very excited for you and you will be in my thoughts. Keeping fingers
crossed!
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
Bale
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:05 PM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to
get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers
crossed!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold,
so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them
and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all
the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was
involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>
> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book
-
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
<mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
<mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:29:24
Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
Carol responds:
Nope, just Richard. Anne was a queen consort (like Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York, and many others), not a queen regnant like, say, Elizabeth I. William and Mary are the only co-rulers in English history (though some queens consort, like Eleanor of Aquitane, had power in their own right). The only comparable pair in Richard's time that I know of were Ferdinand and Isabella. (Forgive the English spellings of the Spanish names. I like them because they're comfortable and familiar.)
Carol
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
Carol responds:
Nope, just Richard. Anne was a queen consort (like Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York, and many others), not a queen regnant like, say, Elizabeth I. William and Mary are the only co-rulers in English history (though some queens consort, like Eleanor of Aquitane, had power in their own right). The only comparable pair in Richard's time that I know of were Ferdinand and Isabella. (Forgive the English spellings of the Spanish names. I like them because they're comfortable and familiar.)
Carol
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:39:15
Good for you! Break a leg...
Judy
Loyaulte me lie
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Judy
Loyaulte me lie
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
Paul
On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> Hi, Paul -
>
>
>
> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> not be totally decadent. J
>
>
>
> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>
>
>
> TTFN <grin>
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> Bale
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about
>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward
>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> is
>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>>
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>
>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:39:17
William III was James VII/II's nephew as well as his son-in-law - and was therefore a joint monarch. Mary Stuart and Darnley are the nearest analogy.
----- Original Message -----
From: justcarol67
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
Carol responds:
Nope, just Richard. Anne was a queen consort (like Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York, and many others), not a queen regnant like, say, Elizabeth I. William and Mary are the only co-rulers in English history (though some queens consort, like Eleanor of Aquitane, had power in their own right). The only comparable pair in Richard's time that I know of were Ferdinand and Isabella. (Forgive the English spellings of the Spanish names. I like them because they're comfortable and familiar.)
Carol
----- Original Message -----
From: justcarol67
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
Carol responds:
Nope, just Richard. Anne was a queen consort (like Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York, and many others), not a queen regnant like, say, Elizabeth I. William and Mary are the only co-rulers in English history (though some queens consort, like Eleanor of Aquitane, had power in their own right). The only comparable pair in Richard's time that I know of were Ferdinand and Isabella. (Forgive the English spellings of the Spanish names. I like them because they're comfortable and familiar.)
Carol
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:41:50
> Can you find out for me whether Richard's mother attended the coronation? I know that she didn't walk in the procession since her daughter (And Richard's sister) Elizabeth, Duchess of Suffolk, walked in state alone. They would have been together, surely, if Cecily had participated, but since she was sixty-eight at the time, she certainly had good reason not to walk through the streets in June wearing heavy robes and a coronet. Baldwin, who thinks that Cecily disapproved of Richard's decision to take the crown, says that she didn't appear at the banquet afterward but says nothing about the coronation itself. (The Archbishop of Canterbury didn't appear at the banquet, either, but, again, Baldwin to the contrary, the reason is probably age rather than disapproval. He died soon after crowning Henry VII.) At any rate, I'd be interested in learning what Sutton and Hammond have to say about both those people, especially Richard's mother.
I think the evidence suggests that neither Richard's mother nor Anne's attended the coronation. But we shouldn't jump to hasty conclusions. We have a very good record of Elizabeth of York's coronation and we know that Henry and his mother had to hide behind a screen in order to participate. So it may be that, although Cecily ('queen that should have been') participated in Edward IV's coronation, his elder sister Anne of Exeter didn't, and so the proper protocol MAY have been for members of the family who were senior to the person being crowned to stay away so as not to upstage them. Does anyone have the details of any previous coronations for comparison?
Marie
>
> Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood claim was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
>
> Carol
>
I think the evidence suggests that neither Richard's mother nor Anne's attended the coronation. But we shouldn't jump to hasty conclusions. We have a very good record of Elizabeth of York's coronation and we know that Henry and his mother had to hide behind a screen in order to participate. So it may be that, although Cecily ('queen that should have been') participated in Edward IV's coronation, his elder sister Anne of Exeter didn't, and so the proper protocol MAY have been for members of the family who were senior to the person being crowned to stay away so as not to upstage them. Does anyone have the details of any previous coronations for comparison?
Marie
>
> Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood claim was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
>
> Carol
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:49:49
Anglo spellings forgiven! (Though, true to my father's training, I'll go
Spanish-style) - The case of Isabel and Fernando was unusual, because each
was a ruler regnant of his/her own kingdom and his/her spouse was the consort.
So Isabel was the ruler of Castile and Fernando her consort (which was why
he was in so much trouble and why Catherine of Aragon lost prestige when
Isabel died - Fernando had no rights in Castile except what came by virtue
of being Isabel's husband). Isabel was consort in Aragon, where Fernando
was king (which was why, after their son Juan died, there was so much more
hoopla in Aragon than in Castile about letting eldest daughter Isabel have
any ruling rights in Aragon, which observed Salic rule).
It was a true case of their motto Tanto Monta Monta Tanto, Isabel como
Fernando!
Maria
ejbronte@...
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double
> coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
> later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign
> is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Nope, just Richard. Anne was a queen consort (like Elizabeth Woodville,
> Elizabeth of York, and many others), not a queen regnant like, say,
> Elizabeth I. William and Mary are the only co-rulers in English history
> (though some queens consort, like Eleanor of Aquitane, had power in their
> own right). The only comparable pair in Richard's time that I know of were
> Ferdinand and Isabella. (Forgive the English spellings of the Spanish
> names. I like them because they're comfortable and familiar.)
>
> Carol
>
>
>
Spanish-style) - The case of Isabel and Fernando was unusual, because each
was a ruler regnant of his/her own kingdom and his/her spouse was the consort.
So Isabel was the ruler of Castile and Fernando her consort (which was why
he was in so much trouble and why Catherine of Aragon lost prestige when
Isabel died - Fernando had no rights in Castile except what came by virtue
of being Isabel's husband). Isabel was consort in Aragon, where Fernando
was king (which was why, after their son Juan died, there was so much more
hoopla in Aragon than in Castile about letting eldest daughter Isabel have
any ruling rights in Aragon, which observed Salic rule).
It was a true case of their motto Tanto Monta Monta Tanto, Isabel como
Fernando!
Maria
ejbronte@...
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double
> coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
> later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign
> is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Nope, just Richard. Anne was a queen consort (like Elizabeth Woodville,
> Elizabeth of York, and many others), not a queen regnant like, say,
> Elizabeth I. William and Mary are the only co-rulers in English history
> (though some queens consort, like Eleanor of Aquitane, had power in their
> own right). The only comparable pair in Richard's time that I know of were
> Ferdinand and Isabella. (Forgive the English spellings of the Spanish
> names. I like them because they're comfortable and familiar.)
>
> Carol
>
>
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 16:55:12
"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> William III was James VII/II's nephew as well as his son-in-law - and was therefore a joint monarch. Mary Stuart and Darnley are the nearest analogy.
Carol responds:
Well, not really, since Darnley was called a king consort, not a king regnant. Mary refused his request to be a joint monarch, IIRC.
Carol
>
> William III was James VII/II's nephew as well as his son-in-law - and was therefore a joint monarch. Mary Stuart and Darnley are the nearest analogy.
Carol responds:
Well, not really, since Darnley was called a king consort, not a king regnant. Mary refused his request to be a joint monarch, IIRC.
Carol
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 17:33:47
Hi, Carol!
I was looking at Amazon.ca a little bit ago, and they only have one copy
offered for sale - used for $244.65. See what I mean? I got a bargain!
<tongue in cheek>
I would tell you what the book says about whether Cecily attended the
coronation or not, but I don't have the book in hand yet. It has just been
shipped. Someone else here mentioned a few weeks ago that she has a copy -
Marie, maybe?
TTFN,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:12 PM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Johanne Tournier wrote:
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
extraordinary devotion to her?
Carol responds:
Wow, Johanne! $149.25 (plus shipping)! That's extraordinary loyalty! I agree
with you that Richard's decision to have Anne crowned with him demonstrates
his love and respect for her. Contrast Henry Tudor, who waited, IIRC, a year
before marrying Elizabeth of York (to emphasize that his "claim" to the
throne was not through her) and another two years (again, IIRC) to have her
crowned--several months after she had given birth to their first son!
Can you find out for me whether Richard's mother attended the coronation? I
know that she didn't walk in the procession since her daughter (And
Richard's sister) Elizabeth, Duchess of Suffolk, walked in state alone. They
would have been together, surely, if Cecily had participated, but since she
was sixty-eight at the time, she certainly had good reason not to walk
through the streets in June wearing heavy robes and a coronet. Baldwin, who
thinks that Cecily disapproved of Richard's decision to take the crown, says
that she didn't appear at the banquet afterward but says nothing about the
coronation itself. (The Archbishop of Canterbury didn't appear at the
banquet, either, but, again, Baldwin to the contrary, the reason is probably
age rather than disapproval. He died soon after crowning Henry VII.) At any
rate, I'd be interested in learning what Sutton and Hammond have to say
about both those people, especially Richard's mother.
Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or
British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood claim
was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
Carol
I was looking at Amazon.ca a little bit ago, and they only have one copy
offered for sale - used for $244.65. See what I mean? I got a bargain!
<tongue in cheek>
I would tell you what the book says about whether Cecily attended the
coronation or not, but I don't have the book in hand yet. It has just been
shipped. Someone else here mentioned a few weeks ago that she has a copy -
Marie, maybe?
TTFN,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:12 PM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Johanne Tournier wrote:
> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
extraordinary devotion to her?
Carol responds:
Wow, Johanne! $149.25 (plus shipping)! That's extraordinary loyalty! I agree
with you that Richard's decision to have Anne crowned with him demonstrates
his love and respect for her. Contrast Henry Tudor, who waited, IIRC, a year
before marrying Elizabeth of York (to emphasize that his "claim" to the
throne was not through her) and another two years (again, IIRC) to have her
crowned--several months after she had given birth to their first son!
Can you find out for me whether Richard's mother attended the coronation? I
know that she didn't walk in the procession since her daughter (And
Richard's sister) Elizabeth, Duchess of Suffolk, walked in state alone. They
would have been together, surely, if Cecily had participated, but since she
was sixty-eight at the time, she certainly had good reason not to walk
through the streets in June wearing heavy robes and a coronet. Baldwin, who
thinks that Cecily disapproved of Richard's decision to take the crown, says
that she didn't appear at the banquet afterward but says nothing about the
coronation itself. (The Archbishop of Canterbury didn't appear at the
banquet, either, but, again, Baldwin to the contrary, the reason is probably
age rather than disapproval. He died soon after crowning Henry VII.) At any
rate, I'd be interested in learning what Sutton and Hammond have to say
about both those people, especially Richard's mother.
Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or
British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood claim
was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
Carol
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 17:54:10
I have it (Maria). Will check tonight.
Maria
ejbronte@...
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi, Carol!
>
> I was looking at Amazon.ca a little bit ago, and they only have one copy
> offered for sale - used for $244.65. See what I mean? I got a bargain!
> <tongue in cheek>
>
> I would tell you what the book says about whether Cecily attended the
> coronation or not, but I don't have the book in hand yet. It has just been
> shipped. Someone else here mentioned a few weeks ago that she has a copy -
> Marie, maybe?
>
> TTFN,
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:12 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
> Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Wow, Johanne! $149.25 (plus shipping)! That's extraordinary loyalty! I
> agree
> with you that Richard's decision to have Anne crowned with him demonstrates
> his love and respect for her. Contrast Henry Tudor, who waited, IIRC, a
> year
> before marrying Elizabeth of York (to emphasize that his "claim" to the
> throne was not through her) and another two years (again, IIRC) to have her
> crowned--several months after she had given birth to their first son!
>
> Can you find out for me whether Richard's mother attended the coronation? I
> know that she didn't walk in the procession since her daughter (And
> Richard's sister) Elizabeth, Duchess of Suffolk, walked in state alone.
> They
> would have been together, surely, if Cecily had participated, but since she
> was sixty-eight at the time, she certainly had good reason not to walk
> through the streets in June wearing heavy robes and a coronet. Baldwin, who
> thinks that Cecily disapproved of Richard's decision to take the crown,
> says
> that she didn't appear at the banquet afterward but says nothing about the
> coronation itself. (The Archbishop of Canterbury didn't appear at the
> banquet, either, but, again, Baldwin to the contrary, the reason is
> probably
> age rather than disapproval. He died soon after crowning Henry VII.) At any
> rate, I'd be interested in learning what Sutton and Hammond have to say
> about both those people, especially Richard's mother.
>
> Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or
> British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood
> claim
> was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
Maria
ejbronte@...
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi, Carol!
>
> I was looking at Amazon.ca a little bit ago, and they only have one copy
> offered for sale - used for $244.65. See what I mean? I got a bargain!
> <tongue in cheek>
>
> I would tell you what the book says about whether Cecily attended the
> coronation or not, but I don't have the book in hand yet. It has just been
> shipped. Someone else here mentioned a few weeks ago that she has a copy -
> Marie, maybe?
>
> TTFN,
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:12 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
> Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> it.
> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> to
> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Wow, Johanne! $149.25 (plus shipping)! That's extraordinary loyalty! I
> agree
> with you that Richard's decision to have Anne crowned with him demonstrates
> his love and respect for her. Contrast Henry Tudor, who waited, IIRC, a
> year
> before marrying Elizabeth of York (to emphasize that his "claim" to the
> throne was not through her) and another two years (again, IIRC) to have her
> crowned--several months after she had given birth to their first son!
>
> Can you find out for me whether Richard's mother attended the coronation? I
> know that she didn't walk in the procession since her daughter (And
> Richard's sister) Elizabeth, Duchess of Suffolk, walked in state alone.
> They
> would have been together, surely, if Cecily had participated, but since she
> was sixty-eight at the time, she certainly had good reason not to walk
> through the streets in June wearing heavy robes and a coronet. Baldwin, who
> thinks that Cecily disapproved of Richard's decision to take the crown,
> says
> that she didn't appear at the banquet afterward but says nothing about the
> coronation itself. (The Archbishop of Canterbury didn't appear at the
> banquet, either, but, again, Baldwin to the contrary, the reason is
> probably
> age rather than disapproval. He died soon after crowning Henry VII.) At any
> rate, I'd be interested in learning what Sutton and Hammond have to say
> about both those people, especially Richard's mother.
>
> Does anyone on the list know of another double coronation of an English or
> British king with his queen? William and Mary, possibly, but the blood
> claim
> was through her, not him, so that wouldn't really count.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 17:55:03
Goooood gear maaaan...
;)
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book - no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, All -
> >
> > I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
> > a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
> > myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> > Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
> > It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> > survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> > probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
> > crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> > extraordinary devotion to her?
> >
> >
> >
> > Loyaulte me lie,
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
;)
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> How much???
> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book - no matter how good it is :-)
> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, All -
> >
> > I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond, about
> > a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to reward
> > myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> > Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for it.
> > It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> > survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that is
> > probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision to
> > crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of his
> > extraordinary devotion to her?
> >
> >
> >
> > Loyaulte me lie,
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 18:14:24
No. A consort is still crowned.
--- In , Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double
> coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
> later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign
> is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Christine
> Headley
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:33 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2012 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> > Would the decision to
> > crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
> > extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
>
> Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
> coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
> nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
> time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
> same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
> than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
> prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
> at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
> certainly married at that point.
>
> Best wishes
> Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--- In , Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double
> coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
> later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's reign
> is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Christine
> Headley
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:33 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2012 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> > Would the decision to
> > crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
> > extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
>
> Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
> coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
> nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
> time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
> same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
> than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
> prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
> at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
> certainly married at that point.
>
> Best wishes
> Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 18:33:51
Yes, now I know that. <smile>
I'm slow but trainable. <another smile>
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of
blancsanglier1452
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:14 PM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
No. A consort is still crowned.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double
> coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
> later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's
reign
> is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Christine
> Headley
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:33 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2012 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> > Would the decision to
> > crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
> > extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
>
> Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
> coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
> nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
> time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
> same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
> than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
> prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
> at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
> certainly married at that point.
>
> Best wishes
> Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I'm slow but trainable. <another smile>
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of
blancsanglier1452
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:14 PM
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
No. A consort is still crowned.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> My knowledge of these things is sketchy. I tend to think of a double
> coronation as resulting in a dual reign - like that of William and Mary in
> later years. But I take it that that is not the case, since Richard's
reign
> is not referred to as "the reign of Richard and Anne." Or should it be?
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Christine
> Headley
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:33 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2012 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> > Would the decision to
> > crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> his
> > extraordinary devotion to her?
>
> I don't think so. It could be seen as a matter of luck.
>
> Elizabeth Woodville wasn't married to Edward IV at the time of his
> coronation, nor Margaret of Anjou to Henry VI (he was nine months old!),
> nor Catherine of France to Henry V; Henry IV was between wives at the
> time of his coronation. Henry VII didn't want Elizabeth crowned at the
> same time as she could be perceived to have a better claim to the throne
> than he did. It isn't clear from Wikipedia (which is as far as I am
> prepared to go) whether Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon were crowned
> at the same time, or whether she was a spectator at his; they were
> certainly married at that point.
>
> Best wishes
> Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 19:24:03
Brilliant Paul, keeping my fingers crossed.
Mary
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul -
> >
> >
> >
> > I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> > I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> > of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> > not be totally decadent. J
> >
> >
> >
> > I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> > recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> > and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> > *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> > at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> > and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > TTFN <grin>
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> > Bale
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How much???
> > Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> > no matter how good it is :-)
> > Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, All -
> >>
> >> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> > about
> >> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> > reward
> >> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> >> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> > it.
> >> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> >> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> > is
> >> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> > to
> >> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> > his
> >> extraordinary devotion to her?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Loyaulte me lie,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johanne
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Johanne L. Tournier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "With God, all things are possible."
> >>
> >> - Jesus of Nazareth
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Mary
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul -
> >
> >
> >
> > I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> > I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> > of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> > not be totally decadent. J
> >
> >
> >
> > I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> > recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> > and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> > *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> > at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> > and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > TTFN <grin>
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> > Bale
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How much???
> > Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> > no matter how good it is :-)
> > Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, All -
> >>
> >> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> > about
> >> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> > reward
> >> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> >> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> > it.
> >> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> >> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> > is
> >> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> > to
> >> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> > his
> >> extraordinary devotion to her?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Loyaulte me lie,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johanne
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Johanne L. Tournier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "With God, all things are possible."
> >>
> >> - Jesus of Nazareth
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 21:20:04
Very best of luck, Paul. I know you've been trying to get this off the ground for a long time.
Marie
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul -
> >
> >
> >
> > I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> > I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> > of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> > not be totally decadent. J
> >
> >
> >
> > I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> > recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> > and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> > *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> > at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> > and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > TTFN <grin>
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> > Bale
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How much???
> > Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> > no matter how good it is :-)
> > Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, All -
> >>
> >> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> > about
> >> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> > reward
> >> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> >> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> > it.
> >> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> >> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> > is
> >> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> > to
> >> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> > his
> >> extraordinary devotion to her?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Loyaulte me lie,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johanne
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Johanne L. Tournier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "With God, all things are possible."
> >>
> >> - Jesus of Nazareth
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Marie
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul -
> >
> >
> >
> > I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> > I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> > of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> > not be totally decadent. J
> >
> >
> >
> > I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> > recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> > and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> > *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> > at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> > and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > TTFN <grin>
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> > Bale
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How much???
> > Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> > no matter how good it is :-)
> > Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, All -
> >>
> >> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> > about
> >> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> > reward
> >> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> >> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> > it.
> >> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> >> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> > is
> >> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> > to
> >> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> > his
> >> extraordinary devotion to her?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Loyaulte me lie,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johanne
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Johanne L. Tournier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "With God, all things are possible."
> >>
> >> - Jesus of Nazareth
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-01 22:27:52
I'll second that - even if Paul wouldn't have Armitage in it :-)
Liz
________________________________
From: mariewalsh2003 <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012, 21:20
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Very best of luck, Paul. I know you've been trying to get this off the ground for a long time.
Marie
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul -
> >
> >
> >
> > I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> > I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> > of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> > not be totally decadent. J
> >
> >
> >
> > I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> > recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> > and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> > *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> > at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> > and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > TTFN <grin>
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> > Bale
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How much???
> > Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> > no matter how good it is :-)
> > Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, All -
> >>
> >> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> > about
> >> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> > reward
> >> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> >> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> > it.
> >> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> >> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> > is
> >> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> > to
> >> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> > his
> >> extraordinary devotion to her?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Loyaulte me lie,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johanne
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Johanne L. Tournier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "With God, all things are possible."
> >>
> >> - Jesus of Nazareth
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Liz
________________________________
From: mariewalsh2003 <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012, 21:20
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
Very best of luck, Paul. I know you've been trying to get this off the ground for a long time.
Marie
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
> Paul
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > Hi, Paul -
> >
> >
> >
> > I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
> > I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
> > of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
> > not be totally decadent. J
> >
> >
> >
> > I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
> > recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
> > and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
> > *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
> > at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
> > and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > TTFN <grin>
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
> > Bale
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How much???
> > Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
> > no matter how good it is :-)
> > Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, All -
> >>
> >> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
> > about
> >> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
> > reward
> >> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
> >> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
> > it.
> >> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
> >> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
> > is
> >> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
> > to
> >> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
> > his
> >> extraordinary devotion to her?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Loyaulte me lie,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johanne
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Johanne L. Tournier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "With God, all things are possible."
> >>
> >> - Jesus of Nazareth
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-02 03:04:32
At the right convention? Probably quite a lot!
Sheffe
>________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:51 AM
>Subject: RE: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>Hi, Maria -
>You're right in a sense - I spent $1000 for original editions of the five
>Conan books by Robert E. Howard. I didn't need them either - but they were
>the first "adult" books that I read when I was in the third grade, so they
>held a special attraction for me. C'est la vie! (I wonder what I could sell
>them for?)
>
>Johanne
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Johanne L. Tournier
>
>Email - jltournier60@...
>or jltournier@...
>
>"With God, all things are possible."
>- Jesus of Nazareth
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
>[mailto:] On Behalf Of Maria Torres
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:29 AM
>To:
>Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>I have this book and like it very very much.
>
>Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
>on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At each
>click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these books.
>You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
>
>And then the deed was done.
>
>Maria
>ejbronte@...
>(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
>
>On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
><jltournier60@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
>> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was
>> time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good
>> condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping
>> and handling for it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed
>> to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for
>> that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would
>> the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as
>> some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>> Johanne
>
>
Sheffe
>________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:51 AM
>Subject: RE: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>Hi, Maria -
>You're right in a sense - I spent $1000 for original editions of the five
>Conan books by Robert E. Howard. I didn't need them either - but they were
>the first "adult" books that I read when I was in the third grade, so they
>held a special attraction for me. C'est la vie! (I wonder what I could sell
>them for?)
>
>Johanne
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Johanne L. Tournier
>
>Email - jltournier60@...
>or jltournier@...
>
>"With God, all things are possible."
>- Jesus of Nazareth
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
>[mailto:] On Behalf Of Maria Torres
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:29 AM
>To:
>Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>I have this book and like it very very much.
>
>Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
>on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At each
>click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these books.
>You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
>
>And then the deed was done.
>
>Maria
>ejbronte@...
>(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
>
>On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
><jltournier60@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
>> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was
>> time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good
>> condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping
>> and handling for it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed
>> to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for
>> that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would
>> the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as
>> some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>> Johanne
>
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-02 03:08:35
LOL, Sheff!
-----Original Message-----
From: Sheffe
Sent: 2 Nov 2012 03:04:36 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
At the right convention? Probably quite a lot!
Sheffe
>________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:51 AM
>Subject: RE: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>Hi, Maria -
>You're right in a sense - I spent $1000 for original editions of the five
>Conan books by Robert E. Howard. I didn't need them either - but they were
>the first "adult" books that I read when I was in the third grade, so they
>held a special attraction for me. C'est la vie! (I wonder what I could sell
>them for?)
>
>Johanne
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Johanne L. Tournier
>
>Email - jltournier60@...
>or jltournier@...
>
>"With God, all things are possible."
>- Jesus of Nazareth
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
>[mailto:] On Behalf Of Maria Torres
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:29 AM
>To:
>Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>I have this book and like it very very much.
>
>Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
>on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At each
>click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these books.
>You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
>
>And then the deed was done.
>
>Maria
>ejbronte@...
>(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
>
>On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
><jltournier60@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
>> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was
>> time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good
>> condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping
>> and handling for it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed
>> to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for
>> that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would
>> the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as
>> some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>> Johanne
>
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Sheffe
Sent: 2 Nov 2012 03:04:36 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
At the right convention? Probably quite a lot!
Sheffe
>________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:51 AM
>Subject: RE: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>Hi, Maria -
>You're right in a sense - I spent $1000 for original editions of the five
>Conan books by Robert E. Howard. I didn't need them either - but they were
>the first "adult" books that I read when I was in the third grade, so they
>held a special attraction for me. C'est la vie! (I wonder what I could sell
>them for?)
>
>Johanne
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Johanne L. Tournier
>
>Email - jltournier60@...
>or jltournier@...
>
>"With God, all things are possible."
>- Jesus of Nazareth
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
>[mailto:] On Behalf Of Maria Torres
>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:29 AM
>To:
>Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>I have this book and like it very very much.
>
>Don't fret too much about the price: on one occasion, I dished out $1,000
>on ABEBOOKs for the compete collection of Diderot's correspondence. At each
>click of the computer keys, I kept saying: "You don't need these books.
>You don't need to spend this much money for books you don't need."
>
>And then the deed was done.
>
>Maria
>ejbronte@...
>(who is very, very happy with the extravagant purchase).
>
>On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Johanne Tournier
><jltournier60@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
>> about a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was
>> time to reward myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good
>> condition, on Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping
>> and handling for it.
>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed
>> to survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for
>> that is probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would
>> the decision to crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as
>> some evidence of his extraordinary devotion to her?
>>
>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>
>> Johanne
>
>
Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
2012-11-02 03:13:29
Good luck.
Sheffe
>________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:04 PM
>Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
>Paul
>
>On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, Paul -
>>
>>
>>
>> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
>> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
>> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
>> not be totally decadent. J
>>
>>
>>
>> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
>> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
>> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
>> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
>> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
>> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> TTFN <grin>
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@...
>>
>> or jltournier@...
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> From:
>> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
>> Bale
>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How much???
>> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
>> no matter how good it is :-)
>> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
>> Paul
>>
>> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, All -
>>>
>>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
>> about
>>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
>> reward
>>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
>> it.
>>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
>> is
>>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
>> to
>>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
>> his
>>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Johanne
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>>
>>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
Sheffe
>________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:04 PM
>Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>
>
>
>Meeting with two producers next week, and am in touch with a few "names" to get them on board as interested in playing parts in the film. So fingers crossed!
>Paul
>
>On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:58, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, Paul -
>>
>>
>>
>> I would if I could, ha ha! I just got word that my office is being sold, so
>> I felt like I could be self-indulgent. I also went through and made a list
>> of books on the Society website - but I will wait a bit on ordering them and
>> not be totally decadent. J
>>
>>
>>
>> I think there will be a lot more interest in Richard resulting from all the
>> recent developments. Perhaps you could put like a 20 min. teaser together
>> and solicit investors? Harvey Weinstein would be good - he produced
>> *Shakespeare in Love* as well as other recent Oscar winners and was involved
>> at one time with *The Lord of the Rings,* although he ditched it for cash
>> and Ex. Prod. billing, I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> TTFN <grin>
>>
>>
>>
>> Johanne
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Email - jltournier60@...
>>
>> or jltournier@...
>>
>>
>>
>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>
>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> From:
>> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Trevor
>> Bale
>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:46 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: *The Coronation of Richard III*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How much???
>> Can you finance a movie too if you can afford to spend so much on one book -
>> no matter how good it is :-)
>> Seriously though it is a marvellous book.
>> Paul
>>
>> On 1 Nov 2012, at 10:37, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, All -
>>>
>>> I had read about this volume, edited by Anne Sutton and P.W. Hammond,
>> about
>>> a month ago on this list. So I decided yesterday that it was time to
>> reward
>>> myself. I found a copy of the book, used, in very good condition, on
>>> Amazon.com. I am paying $149.25 US plus $12.49 shipping and handling for
>> it.
>>> It sounds like a remarkable collection of documents that have managed to
>>> survive - the write-up about the book indicates that the reason for that
>> is
>>> probably that it was a very unusual double coronation. Would the decision
>> to
>>> crown Queen Anne as well as Richard himself be seen as some evidence of
>> his
>>> extraordinary devotion to her?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Loyaulte me lie,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Johanne
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Johanne L. Tournier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "With God, all things are possible."
>>>
>>> - Jesus of Nazareth
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
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