Bury Richard in Gloucester?

Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html

At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!

Carol

Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p

--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
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> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
>
> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
>
> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
>
> Carol
>

Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >
> > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >
> > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> >
> > Carol
> >
>

Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >
> > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >
> > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> >
> > Carol
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>

Ooooooops sorry....How comes my message got posted twice...? Eileen

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
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> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> >
> > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > >
> > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > >
> > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > >
> > > Carol
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>

Lucky he wasn't Duke of Basingstoke or Earl of Milton Keynes eh?

;)

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
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> Ooooooops sorry....How comes my message got posted twice...? Eileen
>
> --- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> > >
> > > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > > >
> > > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > > >
> > > > Carol
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Lol.....:0)

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
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> Lucky he wasn't Duke of Basingstoke or Earl of Milton Keynes eh?
>
> ;)

> > > >
>

Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
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From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
Sender:
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
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Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen

--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations ý les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >
> > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >
> > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> >
> > Carol
> >
>

Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen

--- In , c.nelson1@... wrote:
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> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> Sender:
> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> To: <>
> Reply-To:
> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>
> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> >
> > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > >
> > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > >
> > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
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Yes the castle is ruined but about 15 years ago the church was standing and was a lovely tribute to the yorkists I would be very sad if it is no longer there as I was very moved there by the experience and it isn't far from Leicester. I visited the Sherrif Hutton church and paid tribute but now understand the prince isn't there. Do we know where he is? Sorry for my lack of knowledge but hope you can help. Coral a novice
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-----Original Message-----
From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
Sender:
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:10:29
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Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?

Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen

--- In , c.nelson1@... wrote:
>
> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
> Sent from my BlackBerryý smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> Sender:
> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> To: <>
> Reply-To:
> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>
> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
>
> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >
> > Congratulations ý les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> >
> > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > >
> > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > >
> > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
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The church at Fotheringhay is still very much there. The Society has a Carol service there every December. I have not been for a few years but I don't think that Richard and Edward's family have been removed either. It is a very lovely church and I will never forget the first time we went to the Carol service, driving away in the dark and seeing the chuch floodlit and all the rest of the village in darkness. To use an expression normally associated with the young, it was awesome.

Regards

Mary

--- In , c.nelson1@... wrote:
>
> Yes the castle is ruined but about 15 years ago the church was standing and was a lovely tribute to the yorkists I would be very sad if it is no longer there as I was very moved there by the experience and it isn't far from Leicester. I visited the Sherrif Hutton church and paid tribute but now understand the prince isn't there. Do we know where he is? Sorry for my lack of knowledge but hope you can help. Coral a novice
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> Sender:
> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:10:29
> To: <>
> Reply-To:
> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>
> Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
>
> --- In , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >
> > Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > Sender:
> > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> > To: <>
> > Reply-To:
> > Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >
> > Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> > >
> > > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > > >
> > > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > > >
> > > > Carol
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Sorry Coral...It is a mystery where Prince Edward is buried. I did post a message with the places that Richard visited immediately after Edward's death where he could have been buried. Once Richard had left Nottingham he visited Pontefract, York, Middleham, Barnard Castle, Newcastle, Durham, Rievaulx, Scarborough Castle, Sheriff Hutton and York again. It has been suggested Edward was buried at Merevale Abbey which is close to Middleham. It's such a shame the location has been lost isnt it? Eileen
--- In , c.nelson1@... wrote:
>
> Yes the castle is ruined but about 15 years ago the church was standing and was a lovely tribute to the yorkists I would be very sad if it is no longer there as I was very moved there by the experience and it isn't far from Leicester. I visited the Sherrif Hutton church and paid tribute but now understand the prince isn't there. Do we know where he is? Sorry for my lack of knowledge but hope you can help. Coral a novice
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> Sender:
> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:10:29
> To: <>
> Reply-To:
> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>
> Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
>
> --- In , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >
> > Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > Sender:
> > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> > To: <>
> > Reply-To:
> > Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >
> > Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> > >
> > > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > > >
> > > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > > >
> > > > Carol
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Mary...how beautiful...Eileen


--- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@...> wrote:
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> The church at Fotheringhay is still very much there. The Society has a Carol service there every December. I have not been for a few years but I don't think that Richard and Edward's family have been removed either. It is a very lovely church and I will never forget the first time we went to the Carol service, driving away in the dark and seeing the chuch floodlit and all the rest of the village in darkness. To use an expression normally associated with the young, it was awesome.
>
> Regards
>
> Mary
>
> --- In , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >
> > Yes the castle is ruined but about 15 years ago the church was standing and was a lovely tribute to the yorkists I would be very sad if it is no longer there as I was very moved there by the experience and it isn't far from Leicester. I visited the Sherrif Hutton church and paid tribute but now understand the prince isn't there. Do we know where he is? Sorry for my lack of knowledge but hope you can help. Coral a novice
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > Sender:
> > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:10:29
> > To: <>
> > Reply-To:
> > Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >
> > Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
> >
> > --- In , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > > Sender:
> > > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> > > To: <>
> > > Reply-To:
> > > Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> > >
> > > Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > > > >
> > > > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol
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>> The church at Fotheringhay is still very much there. The Society has
>>a Carol service there every December. I have not been for a few years
>>but I don't think that Richard and Edward's family have been removed
>>either. It is a very lovely church and I will never forget the first
>>time we went to the Carol service, driving away in the dark and seeing
>>the chuch floodlit and all the rest of the village in darkness. To use
>>an expression normally associated with the young, it was awesome.

**** Absolutely right Mary - I'm hoping to go this year.

wiki link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fotheringhay


Jac

Devasting. But there is a monument in the old Church where flowers are left. So it at is somewhere to pay your respects until more is known. Take care. Coral
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-----Original Message-----
From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
Sender:
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:42:04
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Sorry Coral...It is a mystery where Prince Edward is buried. I did post a message with the places that Richard visited immediately after Edward's death where he could have been buried. Once Richard had left Nottingham he visited Pontefract, York, Middleham, Barnard Castle, Newcastle, Durham, Rievaulx, Scarborough Castle, Sheriff Hutton and York again. It has been suggested Edward was buried at Merevale Abbey which is close to Middleham. It's such a shame the location has been lost isnt it? Eileen
--- In , c.nelson1@... wrote:
>
> Yes the castle is ruined but about 15 years ago the church was standing and was a lovely tribute to the yorkists I would be very sad if it is no longer there as I was very moved there by the experience and it isn't far from Leicester. I visited the Sherrif Hutton church and paid tribute but now understand the prince isn't there. Do we know where he is? Sorry for my lack of knowledge but hope you can help. Coral a novice
> Sent from my BlackBerryý smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> Sender:
> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:10:29
> To: <>
> Reply-To:
> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>
> Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
>
> --- In , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >
> > Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
> > Sent from my BlackBerryý smartphone
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > Sender:
> > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> > To: <>
> > Reply-To:
> > Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >
> > Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Congratulations ý les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> > >
> > > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > > >
> > > > At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> > > >
> > > > Carol
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They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle mound.
Paul

On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:

> Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
>
> --- In , c.nelson1@... wrote:
>>
>> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
>> Sender:
>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
>> To: <>
>> Reply-To:
>> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>>
>> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
>>
>> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
>>>
>>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
>>>
>>> --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
>>>>
>>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
>>>>
>>>> Carol
>>>>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Richard Liveth Yet!

Thank you Paul...It is top of the list for places to visit next year.....Eileen

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle mound.
> Paul
>
> On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:
>
> > Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
> >
> > --- In , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >>
> >> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the ruined fortress? Coral
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> >> Sender:
> >> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> >> To: <>
> >> Reply-To:
> >> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >>
> >> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >>
> >> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title in English history!!! :p
> >>>
> >>> --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Gloucester/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >>>>
> >>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling him "Richard of York"!
> >>>>
> >>>> Carol
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>

One more very good reason why he should be buried in York, reunited with
his family.

George



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To:
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Thank you Paul...It is top of the list for places to visit next
year.....Eileen

--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale
<paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle
mound.
> Paul
>
> On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:
>
> > Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I
thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
> >
> > --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >>
> >> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as
the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place
that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the
ruined fortress? Coral
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> >> Sender:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> >> To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >> Reply-To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >>
> >> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >>
> >> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "blancsanglier1452"
<blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title
in English history!!! :p
> >>>
> >>> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67"
<justcarol67@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not
Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >>>>
> >>>>
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Glouce
ster/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >>>>
> >>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling
him "Richard of York"!
> >>>>
> >>>> Carol
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

George...who? Have we got our wires crossed here? Paul was saying that the 'York tomb" which contains Cecily Neville the Rose of Raby and her husband Richard of York, is in the church next to the remains of Fotheringhay Castle. Their son Edmund who was killed with his father at Wakefield lies with them too.

I wish they would hurry up with the test results now.....It has seemed an age since we had the marvellous news that they have in all likeliness found Richard....

P.s. another thing...say something to make me laugh will ya? :0)

--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> One more very good reason why he should be buried in York, reunited with
> his family.
>
> George
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:07 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Paul...It is top of the list for places to visit next
> year.....Eileen
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale
> <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle
> mound.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:
> >
> > > Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I
> thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as
> the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place
> that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the
> ruined fortress? Coral
> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > >> Sender:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> > >> To: <
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > >> Reply-To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> > >>
> > >> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> > >>
> > >> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "blancsanglier1452"
> <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title
> in English history!!! :p
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67"
> <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not
> Woksop, but Gloucester:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Glouce
> ster/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling
> him "Richard of York"!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Carol
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> George...who? Have we got our wires crossed here? Paul was saying that the 'York tomb" which contains Cecily Neville the Rose of Raby and her husband Richard of York, is in the church next to the remains of Fotheringhay Castle. Their son Edmund who was killed with his father at Wakefield lies with them too.



Name confusion. The tomb at Fotheringay contains members of the York line. It's not a tomb at the city York.

Katy

Richard Dukeof York ,Cecily his wife and Edmond their son are all buried at Fotheringhay.It,is a beautiful church although R of York's body is now outside since the church is smaller than it was.When we rectraced his funeral procession from Pontefract 17 years after he died we ended up with a service in Fotheringhay church.Richard Duke of Gloucester was there,the church was packed and it was very moving.Fotherinhay is in northamptonshire

Thank you Carole...So Richard of York's body is now buried outside the church. Does it have some kind of monument...? It seems a shame he is no longer with Cecily...Is Edmond inside the church...Is he near his mother? Many thanks Eileen

--- In , carole jenkins <carolejenkins57@...> wrote:
>
> Richard Dukeof York ,Cecily his wife and Edmond their son are all buried at Fotheringhay.It,is a beautiful church although R of York's body is now outside since the church is smaller than it was.When we rectraced his funeral procession from Pontefract 17 years after he died we ended up with a service in Fotheringhay church.Richard Duke of Gloucester was there,the church was packed and it was very moving.Fotherinhay is in northamptonshire
>
>
>

Sorry my mistake I was thinking Clifford’s Mound and a church in York
nearby…………..



From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of George
Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:22 AM
To:
Subject: RE: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?





One more very good reason why he should be buried in York, reunited with
his family.

George

From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of EileenB
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:07 AM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?

Thank you Paul...It is top of the list for places to visit next
year.....Eileen

--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale
<paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle
mound.
> Paul
>
> On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:
>
> > Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I
thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
> >
> > --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >>
> >> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as
the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place
that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the
ruined fortress? Coral
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> >> Sender:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> >> To: <
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >> Reply-To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >>
> >> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >>
> >> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "blancsanglier1452"
<blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title
in English history!!! :p
> >>>
> >>> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67"
<justcarol67@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not
Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >>>>
> >>>>
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Glouce
ster/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >>>>
> >>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling
him "Richard of York"!
> >>>>
> >>>> Carol
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Er his mother father and one of his elder brothers are buried in Fotheringhay, and his wife in Westmointsre. So none of his family are in York!
Or were you being facetious? :-)
Paul


On 8 Nov 2012, at 16:21, George Butterfield wrote:

> One more very good reason why he should be buried in York, reunited with
> his family.
>
> George
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:07 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you Paul...It is top of the list for places to visit next
> year.....Eileen
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale
> <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>>
>> They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle
> mound.
>> Paul
>>
>> On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:
>>
>>> Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I
> thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
>>>
>>> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , c.nelson1@ wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as
> the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place
> that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the
> ruined fortress? Coral
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
>>>> Sender:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
>>>> To: <
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
>>>> Reply-To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
>>>>
>>>> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
>>>>
>>>> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "blancsanglier1452"
> <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title
> in English history!!! :p
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67"
> <justcarol67@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not
> Woksop, but Gloucester:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Glouce
> ster/story-17208449-detail/story.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling
> him "Richard of York"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Richard Liveth Yet!

Maybe Prince Edward is buried in York.

Or then again maybe not.

Marie

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Er his mother father and one of his elder brothers are buried in Fotheringhay, and his wife in Westmointsre. So none of his family are in York!
> Or were you being facetious? :-)
> Paul
>
>
> On 8 Nov 2012, at 16:21, George Butterfield wrote:
>
> > One more very good reason why he should be buried in York, reunited with
> > his family.
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:07 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you Paul...It is top of the list for places to visit next
> > year.....Eileen
> >
> > --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale
> > <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >>
> >> They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle
> > mound.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:
> >>
> >>> Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I
> > thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
> >>>
> >>> --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as
> > the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place
> > that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the
> > ruined fortress? Coral
> >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> >>>> Sender:
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> >>>> To: <
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >>>> Reply-To:
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "blancsanglier1452"
> > <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title
> > in English history!!! :p
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67"
> > <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not
> > Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Glouce
> > ster/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling
> > him "Richard of York"!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Carol
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Sadly I put 1+1 = 11
Totally my wishful thinking and error
George

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> Er his mother father and one of his elder brothers are buried in Fotheringhay, and his wife in Westmointsre. So none of his family are in York!
> Or were you being facetious? :-)
> Paul
>
> On 8 Nov 2012, at 16:21, George Butterfield wrote:
>
> > One more very good reason why he should be buried in York, reunited with
> > his family.
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:07 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you Paul...It is top of the list for places to visit next
> > year.....Eileen
> >
> > --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale
> > <paul.bale@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> They are now buried in the York tomb in the church next door to the castle
> > mound.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> On 7 Nov 2012, at 21:10, EileenB wrote:
> >>
> >>> Have not all the Plantagenets remains been removed from Fotheringay? I
> > thought it was ruinous...Its on my place to visits...Eileen
> >>>
> >>> --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , c.nelson1@ wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Fotheringay would be better as nearer the scene of death and known as
> > the Yorkist Church and is very moving when visited and would enhance a place
> > that has all but disappeared despite some famous or infamous dwellers at the
> > ruined fortress? Coral
> >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> >>>> Sender:
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:47
> >>>> To: <
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >>>> Reply-To:
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Bury Richard in Gloucester?
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh jeez....not Gloucester...I beg of you.....Eileen
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "blancsanglier1452"
> > <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Congratulations á les Hancocks for advertising the most UNLUCKY title
> > in English history!!! :p
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67"
> > <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's a new idea--not York, not Leicester, not Westminster, not
> > Woksop, but Gloucester:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Richard-III-s-remains-interred-Glouce
> > ster/story-17208449-detail/story.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At least, reporters, novelists, and TV producers might stop calling
> > him "Richard of York"!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Carol
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>