Edward IV
Edward IV
2003-03-08 17:33:46
willison2001 wrote: Edward showed no sensitivity over
Clarence, who was a treacherous
turncoat, but could've been imprisoned, not drowned.
They were
brothers after all!
Edward also showed disregard to the feelings of women
who he seduced and dumped.
****
Is there any evidence that Edward treated the people
in his life with sensitivity or consideration?
The impression I get is that he treated people like
pawns in a chess game.
If anyone can suggest sources that show Edward
behaving differently, I'll read them and modify my
opinion.
TIA!
Marion
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Clarence, who was a treacherous
turncoat, but could've been imprisoned, not drowned.
They were
brothers after all!
Edward also showed disregard to the feelings of women
who he seduced and dumped.
****
Is there any evidence that Edward treated the people
in his life with sensitivity or consideration?
The impression I get is that he treated people like
pawns in a chess game.
If anyone can suggest sources that show Edward
behaving differently, I'll read them and modify my
opinion.
TIA!
Marion
__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
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Re: Edward IV
2009-03-20 01:20:02
Greetings All,
I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Virginia
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I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Virginia
**************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
Re: Edward IV
2009-03-20 07:30:45
i have read somewhere that louis xi..the universal spider, king of france, may have poisoned e4. he sent a keg of wine or kegs. the wine was rumoured to have been poisoned.
the event occurred shortly after the failed marriage contract between elizabeth of york and louis's son charles. charles eventually went on to marry anne of brittany who had been betrothed to e5. louis broke the contract as a treaty or an alliance with the burgundians, i think. the wine was supposed to be a peace offering.
if i correctly recall it was alexander dumas, who wrote the three muskateers, who may have made the statement in one of his fictional books...don't hold me to this, i am writing from the top of my head, and it's gone past midnight.
roslyn
--- On Thu, 3/19/09, fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...> wrote:
From: fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...>
Subject: Re: Edward IV
To:
Received: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 7:52 PM
Greetings All,
I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Virginia
************ **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
less. (http://food. aol.com/frugal- feasts?ncid= emlcntusfood0000 0001)
the event occurred shortly after the failed marriage contract between elizabeth of york and louis's son charles. charles eventually went on to marry anne of brittany who had been betrothed to e5. louis broke the contract as a treaty or an alliance with the burgundians, i think. the wine was supposed to be a peace offering.
if i correctly recall it was alexander dumas, who wrote the three muskateers, who may have made the statement in one of his fictional books...don't hold me to this, i am writing from the top of my head, and it's gone past midnight.
roslyn
--- On Thu, 3/19/09, fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...> wrote:
From: fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...>
Subject: Re: Edward IV
To:
Received: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 7:52 PM
Greetings All,
I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Virginia
************ **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
less. (http://food. aol.com/frugal- feasts?ncid= emlcntusfood0000 0001)
Re: Edward IV
2009-03-20 07:34:28
i decided to check the forum's message archives.
pop dumas in the msg search field. you'll get some answers. it was dumas who wrote the story.
roslyn
--- On Thu, 3/19/09, fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...> wrote:
From: fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...>
Subject: Re: Edward IV
To:
Received: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 7:52 PM
Greetings All,
I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Virginia
************ **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
less. (http://food. aol.com/frugal- feasts?ncid= emlcntusfood0000 0001)
pop dumas in the msg search field. you'll get some answers. it was dumas who wrote the story.
roslyn
--- On Thu, 3/19/09, fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...> wrote:
From: fairerichard3@... <fairerichard3@...>
Subject: Re: Edward IV
To:
Received: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 7:52 PM
Greetings All,
I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Virginia
************ **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
less. (http://food. aol.com/frugal- feasts?ncid= emlcntusfood0000 0001)
Re: Edward IV
2009-03-24 13:47:04
--- In , fairerichard3@... wrote:
>
> Greetings All,
>
> I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
> IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
> her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
> library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
> theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Hi Virginia
Annette Carson "in 1996 Richard Collins of the University of Cambridge published a short treatise outlining his suspicions that Edward might have been poisoned"
Richard E Collins, "The Death of Edward IV" part ll of Secret History, J Dening and R E Collins (Suffolk 1996)
Eileen
> Thank you.
>
> Best Regards,
> Virginia
>
> **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
> less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings All,
>
> I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
> IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
> her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
> library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
> theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Hi Virginia
Annette Carson "in 1996 Richard Collins of the University of Cambridge published a short treatise outlining his suspicions that Edward might have been poisoned"
Richard E Collins, "The Death of Edward IV" part ll of Secret History, J Dening and R E Collins (Suffolk 1996)
Eileen
> Thank you.
>
> Best Regards,
> Virginia
>
> **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
> less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
>
>
>
>
Re: Edward IV
2009-03-24 19:21:15
--- In , "eileen" <ebatesparrot@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , fairerichard3@ wrote:
> >
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
> > IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
> > her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
> > library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
> > theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Hi Virginia - Ive finally tracked down where you can get a copy of 'Secret History'. Its available from Richard lll Museum in York. Im going to get a copy myself. It sounds quite interesting. The book was written by John Denning but has the treatise by Richard Collins included in it.
http://www.richardiiimuseum.co.uk/html/merchandise.htm
Eileen
>
> Hi Virginia
>
> Annette Carson "in 1996 Richard Collins f the University of Cambridge published a short treatise outlining his suspicions that Edward might have been poisoned"
>
> Richard E Collins, "The Death of Edward IV" part ll of Secret History, J Dening and R E Collins (Suffolk 1996)
>
> Eileen
>
>
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Virginia
> >
> > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
> > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --- In , fairerichard3@ wrote:
> >
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
> > IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
> > her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
> > library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
> > theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Hi Virginia - Ive finally tracked down where you can get a copy of 'Secret History'. Its available from Richard lll Museum in York. Im going to get a copy myself. It sounds quite interesting. The book was written by John Denning but has the treatise by Richard Collins included in it.
http://www.richardiiimuseum.co.uk/html/merchandise.htm
Eileen
>
> Hi Virginia
>
> Annette Carson "in 1996 Richard Collins f the University of Cambridge published a short treatise outlining his suspicions that Edward might have been poisoned"
>
> Richard E Collins, "The Death of Edward IV" part ll of Secret History, J Dening and R E Collins (Suffolk 1996)
>
> Eileen
>
>
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Virginia
> >
> > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
> > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Edward IV
2009-03-24 20:07:01
--- In , "eileen" <ebatesparrot@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , fairerichard3@ wrote:
> >
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
> > IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
> > her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
> > library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
> > theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Hi Virginia - you can get the book Secret History from the Richard lll Museum in York. I am going to get it as it sounds interesting..
http://www.richardiiimuseum.co.uk/html/merchandise.htm
Eileen
PS Im having trouble getting my messages posted so this message will probably get repeated.....
>
> Hi Virginia
>
> Annette Carson "in 1996 Richard Collins of the University of Cambridge published a short treatise outlining his suspicions that Edward might have been poisoned"
>
> Richard E Collins, "The Death of Edward IV" part ll of Secret History, J Dening and R E Collins (Suffolk 1996)
>
> Eileen
>
>
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Virginia
> >
> > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
> > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --- In , fairerichard3@ wrote:
> >
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone had any information on the manner of Edward
> > IV's death being related to poison. Annette Carson supposedly referenced this in
> > her book, "Richard III: The Maligned King," which I am trying to get on
> > library loan. If you have the reference information or any other sources for this
> > theory I would very much appreciate your help.
Hi Virginia - you can get the book Secret History from the Richard lll Museum in York. I am going to get it as it sounds interesting..
http://www.richardiiimuseum.co.uk/html/merchandise.htm
Eileen
PS Im having trouble getting my messages posted so this message will probably get repeated.....
>
> Hi Virginia
>
> Annette Carson "in 1996 Richard Collins of the University of Cambridge published a short treatise outlining his suspicions that Edward might have been poisoned"
>
> Richard E Collins, "The Death of Edward IV" part ll of Secret History, J Dening and R E Collins (Suffolk 1996)
>
> Eileen
>
>
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Virginia
> >
> > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or
> > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>