Virtuous or Villiain?
Virtuous or Villiain?
2012-11-14 12:53:50
See below for latest article on the Leicester Mercury website. Author
references “local historian, Merryl Patrick.” Does this guy know anything?
Well, not much apparently. (A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.)
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Virtuous-villain-Debating-Richard-III/
story-17308506-detail/story.html
a tinyurl –
http://tinyurl.com/b4ouopn
And here’s the text of the article -
Virtuous or villain? Debating Richard III
Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Leicester Mercury
<http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/people/Leicester%20Mercury/profile.ht
ml>
I was interested to hear from local historian Merryl Patrick, of Ibstock,
who provides an alternative viewpoint about the recent Richard III mania.
He writes: "May I remind readers that before Richard became king he had his
brother's two sons taken to the Tower of London, on the pretence of making
sure they were being looked after.
"Both boys were never seen again."
Mr Patrick, who has studied the subject in some depth, also makes further
claims, which I shall feature in due course.
However, the current interest in the king is a good opportunity to reassess
this mysterious and intriguing figure.
As the place from which Richard left to do battle near Bosworth and now – we
hope – where his mortal remains have been found, Leicestrians past and
present have taken an interest in this controversial royal
There are, as the cliché goes, two sides to every story and this
particularly applies to Richard III.
The traditional view is that he was a villain – the word is used by Richard
of himself in Shakespeare's play.
Richard is one of the liveliest characters in the history of the English
theatre – all the leading actors of every generation wanted to play him –
and it is hardly surprising their lively portrayal of him has led most to
find Richard the "villain" of popular opinion.
However, two sides of the debate will be provided by local historians
Richard Gill and Miriam Stevenson when they present two talks, entitled The
Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, on Thursday.
Richard III has also been considered a religious man, which may seem
surprising considering his alleged misdeeds.
Miriam Stevenson will talk about the book of prayers that it is known
Richard owned.
She will explore what it may tell us about the times in which he lived and
what this most disputed of English monarchs may have thought.
The Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, takes place on
Thursday, between 6pm and 7pm, at Bishop Street Methodist Church – beside
Town Hall Square – Leicester.
Admission to both talks is free.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
references “local historian, Merryl Patrick.” Does this guy know anything?
Well, not much apparently. (A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.)
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Virtuous-villain-Debating-Richard-III/
story-17308506-detail/story.html
a tinyurl –
http://tinyurl.com/b4ouopn
And here’s the text of the article -
Virtuous or villain? Debating Richard III
Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Leicester Mercury
<http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/people/Leicester%20Mercury/profile.ht
ml>
I was interested to hear from local historian Merryl Patrick, of Ibstock,
who provides an alternative viewpoint about the recent Richard III mania.
He writes: "May I remind readers that before Richard became king he had his
brother's two sons taken to the Tower of London, on the pretence of making
sure they were being looked after.
"Both boys were never seen again."
Mr Patrick, who has studied the subject in some depth, also makes further
claims, which I shall feature in due course.
However, the current interest in the king is a good opportunity to reassess
this mysterious and intriguing figure.
As the place from which Richard left to do battle near Bosworth and now – we
hope – where his mortal remains have been found, Leicestrians past and
present have taken an interest in this controversial royal
There are, as the cliché goes, two sides to every story and this
particularly applies to Richard III.
The traditional view is that he was a villain – the word is used by Richard
of himself in Shakespeare's play.
Richard is one of the liveliest characters in the history of the English
theatre – all the leading actors of every generation wanted to play him –
and it is hardly surprising their lively portrayal of him has led most to
find Richard the "villain" of popular opinion.
However, two sides of the debate will be provided by local historians
Richard Gill and Miriam Stevenson when they present two talks, entitled The
Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, on Thursday.
Richard III has also been considered a religious man, which may seem
surprising considering his alleged misdeeds.
Miriam Stevenson will talk about the book of prayers that it is known
Richard owned.
She will explore what it may tell us about the times in which he lived and
what this most disputed of English monarchs may have thought.
The Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, takes place on
Thursday, between 6pm and 7pm, at Bishop Street Methodist Church – beside
Town Hall Square – Leicester.
Admission to both talks is free.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: Virtuous or Villiain?
2012-11-14 13:19:06
The important thing is the Prayer book not the Princes in the f*****g
Tower eh!!! Good one.
--- In , Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> See below for latest article on the Leicester Mercury website. Author
> references "local historian, Merryl Patrick." Does this guy
know anything?
> Well, not much apparently. (A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.)
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
>
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Virtuous-villain-Debating-Richard-\
III/
> story-17308506-detail/story.html
>
>
>
> a tinyurl –
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/b4ouopn
>
>
>
> And here's the text of the article -
>
>
>
>
> Virtuous or villain? Debating Richard III
>
>
> Tuesday, November 13, 2012
>
> Leicester Mercury
>
<http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/people/Leicester%20Mercury/profil\
e.ht
> ml>
>
> I was interested to hear from local historian Merryl Patrick, of
Ibstock,
> who provides an alternative viewpoint about the recent Richard III
mania.
>
> He writes: "May I remind readers that before Richard became king he
had his
> brother's two sons taken to the Tower of London, on the pretence of
making
> sure they were being looked after.
>
> "Both boys were never seen again."
>
> Mr Patrick, who has studied the subject in some depth, also makes
further
> claims, which I shall feature in due course.
>
> However, the current interest in the king is a good opportunity to
reassess
> this mysterious and intriguing figure.
>
> As the place from which Richard left to do battle near Bosworth and
now – we
> hope – where his mortal remains have been found, Leicestrians past
and
> present have taken an interest in this controversial royal
>
> There are, as the cliché goes, two sides to every story and this
> particularly applies to Richard III.
>
> The traditional view is that he was a villain – the word is used
by Richard
> of himself in Shakespeare's play.
>
> Richard is one of the liveliest characters in the history of the
English
> theatre – all the leading actors of every generation wanted to
play him –
> and it is hardly surprising their lively portrayal of him has led most
to
> find Richard the "villain" of popular opinion.
>
> However, two sides of the debate will be provided by local historians
> Richard Gill and Miriam Stevenson when they present two talks,
entitled The
> Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, on
Thursday.
>
> Richard III has also been considered a religious man, which may seem
> surprising considering his alleged misdeeds.
>
> Miriam Stevenson will talk about the book of prayers that it is known
> Richard owned.
>
> She will explore what it may tell us about the times in which he lived
and
> what this most disputed of English monarchs may have thought.
>
> The Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, takes
place on
> Thursday, between 6pm and 7pm, at Bishop Street Methodist Church –
beside
> Town Hall Square – Leicester.
>
> Admission to both talks is free.
>
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Tower eh!!! Good one.
--- In , Johanne Tournier
<jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> See below for latest article on the Leicester Mercury website. Author
> references "local historian, Merryl Patrick." Does this guy
know anything?
> Well, not much apparently. (A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.)
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
>
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Virtuous-villain-Debating-Richard-\
III/
> story-17308506-detail/story.html
>
>
>
> a tinyurl –
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/b4ouopn
>
>
>
> And here's the text of the article -
>
>
>
>
> Virtuous or villain? Debating Richard III
>
>
> Tuesday, November 13, 2012
>
> Leicester Mercury
>
<http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/people/Leicester%20Mercury/profil\
e.ht
> ml>
>
> I was interested to hear from local historian Merryl Patrick, of
Ibstock,
> who provides an alternative viewpoint about the recent Richard III
mania.
>
> He writes: "May I remind readers that before Richard became king he
had his
> brother's two sons taken to the Tower of London, on the pretence of
making
> sure they were being looked after.
>
> "Both boys were never seen again."
>
> Mr Patrick, who has studied the subject in some depth, also makes
further
> claims, which I shall feature in due course.
>
> However, the current interest in the king is a good opportunity to
reassess
> this mysterious and intriguing figure.
>
> As the place from which Richard left to do battle near Bosworth and
now – we
> hope – where his mortal remains have been found, Leicestrians past
and
> present have taken an interest in this controversial royal
>
> There are, as the cliché goes, two sides to every story and this
> particularly applies to Richard III.
>
> The traditional view is that he was a villain – the word is used
by Richard
> of himself in Shakespeare's play.
>
> Richard is one of the liveliest characters in the history of the
English
> theatre – all the leading actors of every generation wanted to
play him –
> and it is hardly surprising their lively portrayal of him has led most
to
> find Richard the "villain" of popular opinion.
>
> However, two sides of the debate will be provided by local historians
> Richard Gill and Miriam Stevenson when they present two talks,
entitled The
> Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, on
Thursday.
>
> Richard III has also been considered a religious man, which may seem
> surprising considering his alleged misdeeds.
>
> Miriam Stevenson will talk about the book of prayers that it is known
> Richard owned.
>
> She will explore what it may tell us about the times in which he lived
and
> what this most disputed of English monarchs may have thought.
>
> The Villain and the Man of Prayer – Aspects of Richard III, takes
place on
> Thursday, between 6pm and 7pm, at Bishop Street Methodist Church –
beside
> Town Hall Square – Leicester.
>
> Admission to both talks is free.
>
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>