Richard's Life & Parallel Universes

Richard's Life & Parallel Universes

2012-11-26 16:29:07
wednesday\_mc
I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.

Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.

Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.

Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.

Just think of the possibilities.

~Wednesday

Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes

2012-11-26 16:40:30
Richard Yahoo
Why afraid? It is a very interesting idea!
A neighbor of mine had a car trouble and decided to stay home from work. His wife gave him her car and send him off to work and he had a heart attack on the way and died. Also killing a mom and an infant. I have since been a believer of the " fork" and how one seemingly innocent decision can change one's( and other people's) lives for ever....... Sorry to be maudlin.

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:29 AM, "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:

> I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
>
> Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.
>
> Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
>
> Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.
>
> Just think of the possibilities.
>
> ~Wednesday
>
>


Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes

2012-11-26 17:47:22
Judy Thomson
Wednesday, if I ever finish my book, you may find it, um, of interest. Not exactly as you describe, but definitely "What if?" Two of my best friends are astrophysicists (one has taught at MIT), and I couldn't resist taking a "bold" and absurd approach, after one of our chats. Not your proposed scenario, but not your regular Ricardian novel, either. :-)

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


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From: wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes


 
I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.

Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.

Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.

Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.

Just think of the possibilities.

~Wednesday




Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes

2012-11-26 19:25:17
justcarol67
Wednesday wrote:
> <snip>
> Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
>
> Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.
>
> Just think of the possibilities.

Carol responds:

I prefer the parallel universe in which he decided not to charge down Ambion Hill, or whatever they're calling it now, and somehow won the Battle of Bosworth as he ought to have done with his superior troops and battle experience. Or better yet, one in which the Earl of Oxford remained imprisoned and wasn't there to face the Duke of Norfolk at Bosworth. What would Henry have done then, we wonders, yes, we wonders?

Carol

Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-26 19:39:50
walkerjaneway
Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.

Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience. It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).

Renate


--- In , "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
>
> Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.
>
> Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
>
> Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.
>
> Just think of the possibilities.
>
> ~Wednesday
>

Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-26 19:43:23
Hilary Jones
We must have been getting the same vibes about this tonight - see my post.  Hilary



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From: walkerjaneway <renatemm@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012, 19:39
Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington


 


Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.

Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience. It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).

Renate

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
>
> Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.
>
> Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
>
> Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.
>
> Just think of the possibilities.
>
> ~Wednesday
>




Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-26 21:07:48
walkerjaneway
There are no other posts from you (yet?), Hilary.

Renate


--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> We must have been getting the same vibes about this tonight - see my post.  Hilary
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: walkerjaneway <renatemm@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012, 19:39
> Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington
>
>
>  
>
>
> Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
>
> Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience. It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
>
> Renate
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> >
> > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
> >
> > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.
> >
> > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> >
> > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.
> >
> > Just think of the possibilities.
> >
> > ~Wednesday
> >
>
>
>
>
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>

Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-27 11:41:34
Hilary Jones
I wrote recommending the same book - should be there somewhere. Don't think I forgot to post the send - no I didn't because Eileen responded. I think it's great (the book) but it has attracted some hostility from purists. 



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From: walkerjaneway <renatemm@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012, 21:07
Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington


 

There are no other posts from you (yet?), Hilary.

Renate

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> We must have been getting the same vibes about this tonight - see my post.  Hilary
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: walkerjaneway <renatemm@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012, 19:39
> Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington
>
>
>  
>
>
> Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
>
> Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience. It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
>
> Renate
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> >
> > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
> >
> > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.
> >
> > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> >
> > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.
> >
> > Just think of the possibilities.
> >
> > ~Wednesday
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-27 15:45:29
wednesday\_mc
Thanks so much for this rec. I'm off to see if it's available as an ebook as I don't want to wait.

And anyone out there who's writing a book on Richard...why are you reading this when you should be writing so we can read it that much faster? :)

Peace,
~Weds


--- In , "walkerjaneway" <renatemm@...> wrote:
>
>
> Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
>
> Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience. It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
>
> Renate
>
>
> --- In , "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> >
> > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
> >
> > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one, universes branch off in different directions.
> >
> > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> >
> > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded differently in that universe.
> >
> > Just think of the possibilities.
> >
> > ~Wednesday
> >
>

Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-27 17:12:27
Douglas Eugene Stamate
walkerjaneway wrote:

"Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of
alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda
Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a
pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The
author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully
and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those
who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it."

I can recommend "Lest Darkness Fall" by L. Sprague deCamp. While it's not
about Richard, you may find it interesting. It might be a bit difficult to
get a hold of as the novel was first published in 1941 and my paperback came
out in 1969.
Doug
>
> Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend
> your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience.
> It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation
> ;-).
>
> Renate
>
>
> --- In , "wednesday_mc"
> <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>>
>> I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to
>> throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
>>
>> Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel
>> universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory
>> today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision
>> we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways
>> than one, universes branch off in different directions.
>>
>> Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of
>> our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
>>
>> Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two
>> at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel
>> universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded
>> differently in that universe.
>>
>> Just think of the possibilities.
>>
>> ~Wednesday
>>
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Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-27 19:53:48
wednesday\_mc
Hi, Doug.

Thanks for the recommendation. In return, please let me rec Walter M. Miller's A Canticle for Leibowitz and the sequel finished after his death, Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman?

Miller helped bomb the Benedictine Abbey at Monte Cassino during WWII, which had a direct result on both his life and his creating Canticle. The books have nothing to do with Richard -- unless trying to keep stability in a world gone insane can be considered a parallel.

Incidentally, Canticle won the Hugo. I don't want to say any more, because Miller's writing goes beyond genre and description...sort of like Richard's life.

~Wednesday


--- In , "Douglas Eugene Stamate" <destama@...> wrote:

> I can recommend "Lest Darkness Fall" by L. Sprague deCamp. While it's not about Richard, you may find it interesting. It might be a bit difficult to
> get a hold of as the novel was first published in 1941 and my paperback came out in 1969.
> Doug

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Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-27 20:29:41
liz williams
Wednesday said:
 
Miller helped bomb the Benedictine Abbey at Monte Cassino during WWII, which had a direct result on both his life and his creating Canticle.
 
My uncle was at Monte Cassino and I have visited there so I think I should read the book just because of that.  Plus the fact that I have always been interested in the idea of parallel universes. 

Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-27 20:40:43
Judy Thomson
Great books; I'll second the recommendation.

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


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From: wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington


 
Hi, Doug.

Thanks for the recommendation. In return, please let me rec Walter M. Miller's A Canticle for Leibowitz and the sequel finished after his death, Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman?

Miller helped bomb the Benedictine Abbey at Monte Cassino during WWII, which had a direct result on both his life and his creating Canticle. The books have nothing to do with Richard -- unless trying to keep stability in a world gone insane can be considered a parallel.

Incidentally, Canticle won the Hugo. I don't want to say any more, because Miller's writing goes beyond genre and description...sort of like Richard's life.

~Wednesday

--- In , "Douglas Eugene Stamate" <destama@...> wrote:

> I can recommend "Lest Darkness Fall" by L. Sprague deCamp. While it's not about Richard, you may find it interesting. It might be a bit difficult to
> get a hold of as the novel was first published in 1941 and my paperback came out in 1969.
> Doug

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OT - L. Sprague de Camp (was RE: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes

2012-11-27 22:26:50
Johanne Tournier
Hi, All -

L. Sprague de Camp was my favourite fantasy writer when I was a youngster.
He was a scientist as well as a writer. He wrote a number of stories about
parallel universes and time travel. *Lest Darkness Fall* is about a man who
travels back to the time of the fall of the Roman Empire and attempts to
prevent the Fall from happening. A couple other favourites were *The
Incomplete Enchanter* and *The Castle of Iron.* In those stories, the heroes
discover how they can travel to other universes using symbolic logic. They
travel to the world of Norse myth, Spenser's *Faerie Queen,* and *Orlando
Furioso,* among other fantasy worlds. The fun thing is that in most of these
worlds, magic works; unfortunately, the hero Harold Shea has to work out the
formulae on a trial and error basis, and his best laid plans "gang aft
agley." And de Camp has an ironic and tongue in cheek sense of humour, which
makes the stories lots of fun.



I was pleased to meet Mr. de Camp in person at the Tricon World Science
Fiction Convention in 1966 in Cleveland and got him to autograph a First
Edition of *The Castle of Iron.* Some of de Camp's stories were co-written
with Fletcher Pratt, who was a well-known historian of the American Civil
War.



There are two fat hardbacked collections of the stories which are in print
now. One is *The Mathematics of Magic,* which are the complete "Enchanter"
stories (there are a lot more than the ones I mention above), and *Years in
the Making,* which are de Camp's complete time-travel stories.



All highly recommended - if you like fantasy with a touch of satire, you
will enjoy de Camp!



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne

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From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Douglas Eugene
Stamate
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:15 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel
Universes / Freda Warrington






walkerjaneway wrote:

"Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of
alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda
Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a
pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The
author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully
and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those
who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it."

I can recommend "Lest Darkness Fall" by L. Sprague deCamp. While it's not
about Richard, you may find it interesting. It might be a bit difficult to
get a hold of as the novel was first published in 1941 and my paperback came

out in 1969.
Doug
>
> Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend
> your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience.

> It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation
> ;-).
>
> Renate
>
>
> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "wednesday_mc"
> <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>>
>> I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like to

>> throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
>>
>> Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel
>> universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory
>> today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision
>> we make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways
>> than one, universes branch off in different directions.
>>
>> Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of
>> our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
>>
>> Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two
>> at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel
>> universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded
>> differently in that universe.
>>
>> Just think of the possibilities.
>>
>> ~Wednesday
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-27 23:05:39
barbara
I don't post often on the forum for exactly that reason Weds - I'm too busy
writing.

But just in case anyone is interested - I have one book out now purely as an
Amazon ebook - SATIN CINNABAR - which actually begins on the (Bosworth)
battlefield August 1485. It is purely fiction, but does naturally mention
Richard, his death and the Tudor consequences, and contains a good deal of
background detail regarding London and events at that time.

My next book SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN will be published next July. Traditional
publishing is so slow - this book was actually finished two years ago. I was
interested in recent remarks concerning destriers, since this book actually
starts with the death of a groom, killed by a destrier. Again this is
fiction but contains considerable political detail concerning (the
so-called) Perkin Warbeck and Henry Tudor. This is a main component of the
plot.

My third book is also finished (recently) but has no publication date as yet
(the publisher wants it to follow the previous one - so I'm thinking 2014 -
by which time I will probably have expired with impatience) and this (title
BLESSOP'S WIFE) is more immediately concerned with Richard since my hero is
a spy employed by him, and events take place in 1483, covering the Hastings
affair and the Woodville plots etc..

Not only am I an ardent Ricardian, but I also adore the incredible
fascination of the late medieval period, and accurate research on all of
this is my passion.

I have now started my next Ricardian novel. Perhaps, at the rate this is
going, to be published in the next century?? My publisher is very
complimentary about my large and detailed historical fiction, but the word
'speed' doesn't exist.

So this won't be of much interest to anyone here - but I thought I'd put in
a mention anyway since I love this forum.

Cheers - Barbara









From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 2:45 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes
/ Freda Warrington





Thanks so much for this rec. I'm off to see if it's available as an ebook as
I don't want to wait.

And anyone out there who's writing a book on Richard...why are you reading
this when you should be writing so we can read it that much faster? :)

Peace,
~Weds

--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "walkerjaneway"
<renatemm@...> wrote:
>
>
> Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of
alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda
Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a
pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The
author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully
and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those
who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
>
> Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend
your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience.
It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
>
> Renate
>
>
> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "wednesday_mc"
<wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> >
> > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like
to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.

> >
> > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel
universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory
today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we
make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one,
universes branch off in different directions.
> >
> > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of
our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> >
> > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two
at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel
universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded
differently in that universe.
> >
> > Just think of the possibilities.
> >
> > ~Wednesday
> >
>





Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-28 00:26:28
Ishita Bandyo
Barbara, that is so exciting! I am a visual artist and can never write a book!!! And here you have already written 3!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:05 PM, "barbara" <barbaragd@...> wrote:

> I don't post often on the forum for exactly that reason Weds - I'm too busy
> writing.
>
> But just in case anyone is interested - I have one book out now purely as an
> Amazon ebook - SATIN CINNABAR - which actually begins on the (Bosworth)
> battlefield August 1485. It is purely fiction, but does naturally mention
> Richard, his death and the Tudor consequences, and contains a good deal of
> background detail regarding London and events at that time.
>
> My next book SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN will be published next July. Traditional
> publishing is so slow - this book was actually finished two years ago. I was
> interested in recent remarks concerning destriers, since this book actually
> starts with the death of a groom, killed by a destrier. Again this is
> fiction but contains considerable political detail concerning (the
> so-called) Perkin Warbeck and Henry Tudor. This is a main component of the
> plot.
>
> My third book is also finished (recently) but has no publication date as yet
> (the publisher wants it to follow the previous one - so I'm thinking 2014 -
> by which time I will probably have expired with impatience) and this (title
> BLESSOP'S WIFE) is more immediately concerned with Richard since my hero is
> a spy employed by him, and events take place in 1483, covering the Hastings
> affair and the Woodville plots etc..
>
> Not only am I an ardent Ricardian, but I also adore the incredible
> fascination of the late medieval period, and accurate research on all of
> this is my passion.
>
> I have now started my next Ricardian novel. Perhaps, at the rate this is
> going, to be published in the next century?? My publisher is very
> complimentary about my large and detailed historical fiction, but the word
> 'speed' doesn't exist.
>
> So this won't be of much interest to anyone here - but I thought I'd put in
> a mention anyway since I love this forum.
>
> Cheers - Barbara
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 2:45 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes
> / Freda Warrington
>
> Thanks so much for this rec. I'm off to see if it's available as an ebook as
> I don't want to wait.
>
> And anyone out there who's writing a book on Richard...why are you reading
> this when you should be writing so we can read it that much faster? :)
>
> Peace,
> ~Weds
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "walkerjaneway"
> <renatemm@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of
> alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda
> Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a
> pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The
> author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully
> and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those
> who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
> >
> > Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend
> your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience.
> It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
> >
> > Renate
> >
> >
> > --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "wednesday_mc"
> <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like
> to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
>
> > >
> > > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel
> universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory
> today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we
> make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one,
> universes branch off in different directions.
> > >
> > > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of
> our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> > >
> > > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two
> at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel
> universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded
> differently in that universe.
> > >
> > > Just think of the possibilities.
> > >
> > > ~Wednesday
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-28 00:30:42
barbara
Thanks Ishita. My father was a professional artist, and so I know the pangs of that too, and am so impressed by the vision and talent of visual artists.



From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:26 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington





Barbara, that is so exciting! I am a visual artist and can never write a book!!! And here you have already written 3!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:05 PM, "barbara" <barbaragd@... <mailto:barbaragd%40activ8.net.au> > wrote:

> I don't post often on the forum for exactly that reason Weds - I'm too busy
> writing.
>
> But just in case anyone is interested - I have one book out now purely as an
> Amazon ebook - SATIN CINNABAR - which actually begins on the (Bosworth)
> battlefield August 1485. It is purely fiction, but does naturally mention
> Richard, his death and the Tudor consequences, and contains a good deal of
> background detail regarding London and events at that time.
>
> My next book SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN will be published next July. Traditional
> publishing is so slow - this book was actually finished two years ago. I was
> interested in recent remarks concerning destriers, since this book actually
> starts with the death of a groom, killed by a destrier. Again this is
> fiction but contains considerable political detail concerning (the
> so-called) Perkin Warbeck and Henry Tudor. This is a main component of the
> plot.
>
> My third book is also finished (recently) but has no publication date as yet
> (the publisher wants it to follow the previous one - so I'm thinking 2014 -
> by which time I will probably have expired with impatience) and this (title
> BLESSOP'S WIFE) is more immediately concerned with Richard since my hero is
> a spy employed by him, and events take place in 1483, covering the Hastings
> affair and the Woodville plots etc..
>
> Not only am I an ardent Ricardian, but I also adore the incredible
> fascination of the late medieval period, and accurate research on all of
> this is my passion.
>
> I have now started my next Ricardian novel. Perhaps, at the rate this is
> going, to be published in the next century?? My publisher is very
> complimentary about my large and detailed historical fiction, but the word
> 'speed' doesn't exist.
>
> So this won't be of much interest to anyone here - but I thought I'd put in
> a mention anyway since I love this forum.
>
> Cheers - Barbara
>
> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 2:45 AM
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes
> / Freda Warrington
>
> Thanks so much for this rec. I'm off to see if it's available as an ebook as
> I don't want to wait.
>
> And anyone out there who's writing a book on Richard...why are you reading
> this when you should be writing so we can read it that much faster? :)
>
> Peace,
> ~Weds
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "walkerjaneway"
> <renatemm@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of
> alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda
> Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a
> pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The
> author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully
> and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those
> who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
> >
> > Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend
> your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience.
> It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
> >
> > Renate
> >
> >
> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "wednesday_mc"
> <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like
> to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
>
> > >
> > > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel
> universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory
> today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we
> make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one,
> universes branch off in different directions.
> > >
> > > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of
> our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> > >
> > > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two
> at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel
> universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded
> differently in that universe.
> > >
> > > Just think of the possibilities.
> > >
> > > ~Wednesday
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>







Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-28 00:35:32
Ishita Bandyo
Barbara, just checked out your book on Amazon! Sounds very interesting. On my wish list:)

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, "barbara" <barbaragd@...> wrote:

> Thanks Ishita. My father was a professional artist, and so I know the pangs of that too, and am so impressed by the vision and talent of visual artists.
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:26 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington
>
> Barbara, that is so exciting! I am a visual artist and can never write a book!!! And here you have already written 3!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:05 PM, "barbara" <barbaragd@... <mailto:barbaragd%40activ8.net.au> > wrote:
>
> > I don't post often on the forum for exactly that reason Weds - I'm too busy
> > writing.
> >
> > But just in case anyone is interested - I have one book out now purely as an
> > Amazon ebook - SATIN CINNABAR - which actually begins on the (Bosworth)
> > battlefield August 1485. It is purely fiction, but does naturally mention
> > Richard, his death and the Tudor consequences, and contains a good deal of
> > background detail regarding London and events at that time.
> >
> > My next book SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN will be published next July. Traditional
> > publishing is so slow - this book was actually finished two years ago. I was
> > interested in recent remarks concerning destriers, since this book actually
> > starts with the death of a groom, killed by a destrier. Again this is
> > fiction but contains considerable political detail concerning (the
> > so-called) Perkin Warbeck and Henry Tudor. This is a main component of the
> > plot.
> >
> > My third book is also finished (recently) but has no publication date as yet
> > (the publisher wants it to follow the previous one - so I'm thinking 2014 -
> > by which time I will probably have expired with impatience) and this (title
> > BLESSOP'S WIFE) is more immediately concerned with Richard since my hero is
> > a spy employed by him, and events take place in 1483, covering the Hastings
> > affair and the Woodville plots etc..
> >
> > Not only am I an ardent Ricardian, but I also adore the incredible
> > fascination of the late medieval period, and accurate research on all of
> > this is my passion.
> >
> > I have now started my next Ricardian novel. Perhaps, at the rate this is
> > going, to be published in the next century?? My publisher is very
> > complimentary about my large and detailed historical fiction, but the word
> > 'speed' doesn't exist.
> >
> > So this won't be of much interest to anyone here - but I thought I'd put in
> > a mention anyway since I love this forum.
> >
> > Cheers - Barbara
> >
> > From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 2:45 AM
> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes
> > / Freda Warrington
> >
> > Thanks so much for this rec. I'm off to see if it's available as an ebook as
> > I don't want to wait.
> >
> > And anyone out there who's writing a book on Richard...why are you reading
> > this when you should be writing so we can read it that much faster? :)
> >
> > Peace,
> > ~Weds
> >
> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "walkerjaneway"
> > <renatemm@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of
> > alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda
> > Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a
> > pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The
> > author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully
> > and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those
> > who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
> > >
> > > Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend
> > your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience.
> > It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
> > >
> > > Renate
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "wednesday_mc"
> > <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like
> > to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel
> > universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory
> > today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we
> > make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one,
> > universes branch off in different directions.
> > > >
> > > > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of
> > our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> > > >
> > > > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two
> > at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel
> > universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded
> > differently in that universe.
> > > >
> > > > Just think of the possibilities.
> > > >
> > > > ~Wednesday
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-28 01:16:24
barbara
How sweet of you Ishita. Thanks a lot. A few on this forum have read and liked it. I hope you do eventually, even though Richard is not an actual character in the book. However his life is important to the plot and he is often referred to.



From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:36 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington





Barbara, just checked out your book on Amazon! Sounds very interesting. On my wish list:)

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, "barbara" <barbaragd@... <mailto:barbaragd%40activ8.net.au> > wrote:

> Thanks Ishita. My father was a professional artist, and so I know the pangs of that too, and am so impressed by the vision and talent of visual artists.
>
> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:26 AM
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington
>
> Barbara, that is so exciting! I am a visual artist and can never write a book!!! And here you have already written 3!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:05 PM, "barbara" <barbaragd@... <mailto:barbaragd%40activ8.net.au> <mailto:barbaragd%40activ8.net.au> > wrote:
>
> > I don't post often on the forum for exactly that reason Weds - I'm too busy
> > writing.
> >
> > But just in case anyone is interested - I have one book out now purely as an
> > Amazon ebook - SATIN CINNABAR - which actually begins on the (Bosworth)
> > battlefield August 1485. It is purely fiction, but does naturally mention
> > Richard, his death and the Tudor consequences, and contains a good deal of
> > background detail regarding London and events at that time.
> >
> > My next book SUMERFORD'S AUTUMN will be published next July. Traditional
> > publishing is so slow - this book was actually finished two years ago. I was
> > interested in recent remarks concerning destriers, since this book actually
> > starts with the death of a groom, killed by a destrier. Again this is
> > fiction but contains considerable political detail concerning (the
> > so-called) Perkin Warbeck and Henry Tudor. This is a main component of the
> > plot.
> >
> > My third book is also finished (recently) but has no publication date as yet
> > (the publisher wants it to follow the previous one - so I'm thinking 2014 -
> > by which time I will probably have expired with impatience) and this (title
> > BLESSOP'S WIFE) is more immediately concerned with Richard since my hero is
> > a spy employed by him, and events take place in 1483, covering the Hastings
> > affair and the Woodville plots etc..
> >
> > Not only am I an ardent Ricardian, but I also adore the incredible
> > fascination of the late medieval period, and accurate research on all of
> > this is my passion.
> >
> > I have now started my next Ricardian novel. Perhaps, at the rate this is
> > going, to be published in the next century?? My publisher is very
> > complimentary about my large and detailed historical fiction, but the word
> > 'speed' doesn't exist.
> >
> > So this won't be of much interest to anyone here - but I thought I'd put in
> > a mention anyway since I love this forum.
> >
> > Cheers - Barbara
> >
> > From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 2:45 AM
> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes
> > / Freda Warrington
> >
> > Thanks so much for this rec. I'm off to see if it's available as an ebook as
> > I don't want to wait.
> >
> > And anyone out there who's writing a book on Richard...why are you reading
> > this when you should be writing so we can read it that much faster? :)
> >
> > Peace,
> > ~Weds
> >
> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "walkerjaneway"
> > <renatemm@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Wednesday, there *is* actually a fantasy novel that plays with the idea of
> > alternate universes. It's "The Court of the Midnight King" by Freda
> > Warrington. It is strange in some ways, revolving around a priestess of a
> > pagan cult, but it is rather "earthy" and anchored well in history. The
> > author did her homework thoroughly, and blends her fantasy world skillfully
> > and surprisingly with historical facts. The novel has its flaws, but those
> > who like their Richard darkly romantic will enjoy it.
> > >
> > > Try not to read any spoilers beforehand (as there are on amazon), suspend
> > your disbelief while reading, and it makes a very good reading experience.
> > It is one of my favourite Ricardian novels, if that's a recommendation ;-).
> > >
> > > Renate
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "wednesday_mc"
> > <wednesday.mac@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I hesitated to share this here, but decided those on the list who like
> > to throw ideas up into the air and play with them might find it interesting.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Hugh Everett is the physicist who developed the idea of parallel
> > universes, and quantum physicists have no trouble accepting his theory
> > today. That theory essentially says that with every choice and decision we
> > make, with every event in our lives that could happen in more ways than one,
> > universes branch off in different directions.
> > > >
> > > > Every time we make a decision, we divide into two different versions of
> > our self. This is how parallel universes are born.
> > > >
> > > > Applying the theory to just one event in Richard life, he split into two
> > at the very moment he decided to take the crown. In another parallel
> > universe, another version of him decided not to, and events unfolded
> > differently in that universe.
> > > >
> > > > Just think of the possibilities.
> > > >
> > > > ~Wednesday
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Richard's Life & Parallel Universes / Freda Warrington

2012-11-28 17:34:26
Douglas Eugene Stamate
wednesday_mc wrote:


//snip//
"Thanks for the recommendation. In return, please let me rec Walter M.
Miller's A Canticle for Leibowitz and the sequel finished after his death,
Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman?
Miller helped bomb the Benedictine Abbey at Monte Cassino during WWII, which
had a direct result on both his life and his creating Canticle. The books
have nothing to do with Richard -- unless trying to keep stability in a
world gone insane can be considered a parallel.
Incidentally, Canticle won the Hugo. I don't want to say any more, because
Miller's writing goes beyond genre and description...sort of like Richard's
life."

Thanks for the recommendation. I've that book (Canticle) many times, but
never read it. It's going on my "read" list".
Doug
Richard III
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