sacks of lime….
sacks of lime….
2012-12-04 02:31:22
Sacks of Lime&.any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder&&if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
Re: sacks of lime .
2012-12-04 11:46:17
Was this definitely Buckingham? I had an idea this was Howard, and part of the theory that he murdered the Princes in order to get the duchy of Norfolk. Lime was needed for any building work, of course.
Marie
--- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>
> Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
Marie
--- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>
> Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] sacks of lime….
2012-12-04 16:49:30
Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> Sacks of Lime&.any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder&&if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> Sacks of Lime&.any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder&&if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Re: sacks of lime .
2012-12-04 16:54:10
So, being 2-3 days behind Richard, Buckingham proposed to "freshen" the appearance of certain buildings on the King's route AFTER the King had passed on?
Richard and his entourage must have created quite the mess. So kind of Buckingham to clean up. <end sarcasm>
W.
--- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>
> Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
Richard and his entourage must have created quite the mess. So kind of Buckingham to clean up. <end sarcasm>
W.
--- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>
> Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
RE: [Richard III Society Forum] sacks of lime..
2012-12-04 17:54:42
If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as whitewash!
They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
We still do it when the Queen visits !!
Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to
form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
carbonatation.
When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength. It
takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude is
expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to paint",
with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
thing!
George
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of eileen bates
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
To:
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that
Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was
the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only???
Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons
were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in the
1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
We still do it when the Queen visits !!
Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to
form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
carbonatation.
When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength. It
takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude is
expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to paint",
with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
thing!
George
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of eileen bates
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
To:
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that
Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was
the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only???
Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons
were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in the
1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: sacks of lime..
2012-12-04 18:21:52
American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as whitewash!
> They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> We still do it when the Queen visits !!
>
> Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to
> form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> carbonatation.
>
> When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength. It
> takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
>
> It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude is
> expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to paint",
> with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
>
> Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> thing!
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of eileen bates
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
> Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that
> Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was
> the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
>
> > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only???
> Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons
> were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in the
> 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as whitewash!
> They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> We still do it when the Queen visits !!
>
> Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to
> form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> carbonatation.
>
> When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength. It
> takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
>
> It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude is
> expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to paint",
> with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
>
> Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> thing!
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of eileen bates
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
> Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that
> Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was
> the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
>
> > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only???
> Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons
> were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in the
> 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
Re: sacks of lime..
2012-12-04 20:56:31
That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a good
cigar with his potato chips??
You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
discovered!!
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
To:
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
<gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
whitewash!
> They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> We still do it when the Queen visits !!
>
> Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
to
> form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> carbonatation.
>
> When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
It
> takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
>
> It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
is
> expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
paint",
> with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
>
> Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> thing!
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
bates
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
> Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
that
> Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
was
> the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
>
> > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
only???
> Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
skeletons
> were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
the
> 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
cigar with his potato chips??
You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
discovered!!
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
To:
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
<gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
whitewash!
> They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> We still do it when the Queen visits !!
>
> Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
to
> form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> carbonatation.
>
> When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
It
> takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
>
> It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
is
> expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
paint",
> with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
>
> Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> thing!
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
bates
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
> Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
that
> Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
was
> the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
>
> > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
only???
> Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
skeletons
> were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
the
> 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
Re: sacks of lime..
2012-12-04 21:11:37
Congratulations! My first rude response. (Didn't you just write that you've been in the USA for 28 years???)
My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world types). Maire.
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a good
> cigar with his potato chips??
>
>
>
> You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> discovered!!
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> whitewash!
> > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> >
> > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> to
> > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > carbonatation.
> >
> > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> It
> > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> >
> > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> is
> > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> paint",
> > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
> >
> > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > thing!
> >
> > George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> bates
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> that
> > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> was
> > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> only???
> > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> skeletons
> > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> the
> > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world types). Maire.
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a good
> cigar with his potato chips??
>
>
>
> You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> discovered!!
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> whitewash!
> > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> >
> > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> to
> > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > carbonatation.
> >
> > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> It
> > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> >
> > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> is
> > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> paint",
> > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
> >
> > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > thing!
> >
> > George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> bates
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> that
> > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> was
> > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> only???
> > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> skeletons
> > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> the
> > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: sacks of lime..
2012-12-04 22:19:57
I really do not think that my reply was rude, however wheat was around and
barley but we ( in the old world ) had to wait till people like Drake
brought back CORN TOBBACCO and POTATOES from the new world. I believe that
the first recorded mention was Capt John Smith in 1689 of Pocahontas fame
I really feel that my reply should have been taken as a tongue in cheek
response to Grits ( a very strange and mysterious food that my wife has been
trying to make me eat for 28 years though she will not try my Marmite?)
If this reply offends you then I sincerely apologize as no offence was
either intended nor implied. Anti-bacterial properties were I believe
limited to the use of vinegar during this time,
George
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 4:12 PM
To:
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
Congratulations! My first rude response. (Didn't you just write that you've
been in the USA for 28 years???)
My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an
anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have
something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world
types). Maire.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
<gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a
good
> cigar with his potato chips??
>
>
>
> You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> discovered!!
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> whitewash!
> > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> >
> > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> to
> > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > carbonatation.
> >
> > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> It
> > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> >
> > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for
its
> > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> is
> > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> paint",
> > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real"
paint.
> >
> > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as
they
> > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > thing!
> >
> > George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> bates
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> that
> > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after
Richard
> > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got
rid
> > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> was
> > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back,
so
> > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> only???
> > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter,
and
> > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened
to
> > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> skeletons
> > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> the
> > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
barley but we ( in the old world ) had to wait till people like Drake
brought back CORN TOBBACCO and POTATOES from the new world. I believe that
the first recorded mention was Capt John Smith in 1689 of Pocahontas fame
I really feel that my reply should have been taken as a tongue in cheek
response to Grits ( a very strange and mysterious food that my wife has been
trying to make me eat for 28 years though she will not try my Marmite?)
If this reply offends you then I sincerely apologize as no offence was
either intended nor implied. Anti-bacterial properties were I believe
limited to the use of vinegar during this time,
George
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 4:12 PM
To:
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
Congratulations! My first rude response. (Didn't you just write that you've
been in the USA for 28 years???)
My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an
anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have
something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world
types). Maire.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
<gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a
good
> cigar with his potato chips??
>
>
>
> You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> discovered!!
>
>
>
> From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> whitewash!
> > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> >
> > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> to
> > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > carbonatation.
> >
> > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> It
> > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> >
> > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for
its
> > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> is
> > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> paint",
> > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real"
paint.
> >
> > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as
they
> > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > thing!
> >
> > George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> bates
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> that
> > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after
Richard
> > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got
rid
> > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> was
> > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back,
so
> > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> only???
> > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter,
and
> > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened
to
> > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> skeletons
> > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> the
> > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: sacks of lime..
2012-12-04 22:23:35
Grits are nothing more than a down-home version of polenta. There's nothing new in this world - old or new. Maire.
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> I really do not think that my reply was rude, however wheat was around and
> barley but we ( in the old world ) had to wait till people like Drake
> brought back CORN TOBBACCO and POTATOES from the new world. I believe that
> the first recorded mention was Capt John Smith in 1689 of Pocahontas fame
>
> I really feel that my reply should have been taken as a tongue in cheek
> response to Grits ( a very strange and mysterious food that my wife has been
> trying to make me eat for 28 years though she will not try my Marmite?)
>
> If this reply offends you then I sincerely apologize as no offence was
> either intended nor implied. Anti-bacterial properties were I believe
> limited to the use of vinegar during this time,
>
> George
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 4:12 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
> Congratulations! My first rude response. (Didn't you just write that you've
> been in the USA for 28 years???)
>
> My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an
> anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have
> something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world
> types). Maire.
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a
> good
> > cigar with his potato chips??
> >
> >
> >
> > You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> > discovered!!
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> mairemulholland
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> > --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> > <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> > whitewash!
> > > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> > >
> > > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> > to
> > > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > > carbonatation.
> > >
> > > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> > It
> > > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> > >
> > > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for
> its
> > > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> > is
> > > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> > paint",
> > > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real"
> paint.
> > >
> > > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as
> they
> > > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > > thing!
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> > bates
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> > >
> > > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> > that
> > > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after
> Richard
> > > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got
> rid
> > > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> > was
> > > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back,
> so
> > > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> > only???
> > > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter,
> and
> > > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened
> to
> > > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> > skeletons
> > > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> > the
> > > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> I really do not think that my reply was rude, however wheat was around and
> barley but we ( in the old world ) had to wait till people like Drake
> brought back CORN TOBBACCO and POTATOES from the new world. I believe that
> the first recorded mention was Capt John Smith in 1689 of Pocahontas fame
>
> I really feel that my reply should have been taken as a tongue in cheek
> response to Grits ( a very strange and mysterious food that my wife has been
> trying to make me eat for 28 years though she will not try my Marmite?)
>
> If this reply offends you then I sincerely apologize as no offence was
> either intended nor implied. Anti-bacterial properties were I believe
> limited to the use of vinegar during this time,
>
> George
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 4:12 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
> Congratulations! My first rude response. (Didn't you just write that you've
> been in the USA for 28 years???)
>
> My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an
> anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have
> something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world
> types). Maire.
>
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a
> good
> > cigar with his potato chips??
> >
> >
> >
> > You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> > discovered!!
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> mairemulholland
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> > --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> > <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> > whitewash!
> > > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> > >
> > > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> > to
> > > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > > carbonatation.
> > >
> > > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> > It
> > > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> > >
> > > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for
> its
> > > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> > is
> > > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> > paint",
> > > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real"
> paint.
> > >
> > > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as
> they
> > > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > > thing!
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> > bates
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> > >
> > > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> > that
> > > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after
> Richard
> > > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got
> rid
> > > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> > was
> > > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back,
> so
> > > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> > only???
> > > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter,
> and
> > > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened
> to
> > > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> > skeletons
> > > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> > the
> > > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: sacks of lime..
2012-12-05 06:02:58
lime is an antibacteria. we used to "whitewash" our chicken coop annually to keep the bacteria down and to guard against lice.
there are a load of products that are used to clean and also used in food production. we've just forgotton most of them since the corporate agenda took over our day to day living.
can anyone say vinegar? we used to wash our windows with vinegar and newspaper. now it is a chemical product and paper towels.
there are also different types of lime. quick lime is the type you use to hasten decay of carcasses. it is also used in cement mortor. the burns like the dickens if you get it on your hands and rub your eye..trust me..i know.
roslyn
--- On Tue, 12/4/12, mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...> wrote:
From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
To:
Received: Tuesday, December 4, 2012, 4:11 PM
Congratulations! My first rude response. (Didn't you just write that you've been in the USA for 28 years???)
My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world types). Maire.
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a good
> cigar with his potato chips??
>
>
>
> You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> discovered!!
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> whitewash!
> > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> >
> > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> to
> > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > carbonatation.
> >
> > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> It
> > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> >
> > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> is
> > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> paint",
> > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
> >
> > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > thing!
> >
> > George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> bates
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> that
> > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> was
> > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> only???
> > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> skeletons
> > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> the
> > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
there are a load of products that are used to clean and also used in food production. we've just forgotton most of them since the corporate agenda took over our day to day living.
can anyone say vinegar? we used to wash our windows with vinegar and newspaper. now it is a chemical product and paper towels.
there are also different types of lime. quick lime is the type you use to hasten decay of carcasses. it is also used in cement mortor. the burns like the dickens if you get it on your hands and rub your eye..trust me..i know.
roslyn
--- On Tue, 12/4/12, mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...> wrote:
From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
To:
Received: Tuesday, December 4, 2012, 4:11 PM
Congratulations! My first rude response. (Didn't you just write that you've been in the USA for 28 years???)
My post was in response to a post that said lime was used as an anti-bacterial in food production. This made me realize it might have something to do with the process of making hominy (corn to you old world types). Maire.
--- In , "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...> wrote:
>
> That's it then Richard iii was making grits immediately after having a good
> cigar with his potato chips??
>
>
>
> You folks in the " NEW world" need to sit on your hands at least till your
> discovered!!
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:22 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> American hominy grits use lime in their preparation.
> --- In
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "George Butterfield"
> <gbutterf1@> wrote:
> >
> > If you add water to lime you get slaked lime which can be used as
> whitewash!
> > They spruced up the buildings by painting them white !
> > We still do it when the Queen visits !!
> >
> > Whitewash cures through a reaction with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
> to
> > form calcium carbonate in the form of calcite, a reaction known as
> > carbonatation.
> >
> > When the paint initially dries it is uncured and has almost no strength.
> It
> > takes up to a few days, depending on climate, to harden.
> >
> > It is usually applied to exteriors; however, it is traditionally used
> > internally in food preparation areas, particularly rural dairies, for its
> > mildly antibacterial properties. Occasionally it is coloured and used on
> > structures such as the hallways of apartment buildings, but it is not
> > popular for this as it can rub off onto clothing to a small degree. In
> > Britain and Ireland whitewash was used historically, both externally and
> > internally, in workers' cottages, and still retains something of this
> > association with rural poverty. In the United States, a similar attitude
> is
> > expressed in the old saying: "Too proud to whitewash and too poor to
> paint",
> > with the connotation that whitewash is a cheap imitation of "real" paint.
> >
> > Whitewash is especially effective on adobe-like materials because it is
> > absorbed easily and the resultant chemical reaction hardens the medium.
> > Take a look at any medieval home and the wattle and daub is white as they
> > would have to wait several centuries for Dulux this was the next best
> > thing!
> >
> > George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of eileen
> bates
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:49 AM
> > To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime..
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is
> that
> > Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard
> > had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and
> > revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid
> > of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which
> was
> > the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime..any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book
> > collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so
> > Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing
> > detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began
> > his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the
> > appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks
> only???
> > Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and
> > to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to
> > the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the
> skeletons
> > were found at the stairs. I wonder..if those skeletons when examined in
> the
> > 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: sacks of lime..
2012-12-05 10:52:49
Hi Everyone, re sacks of lime, I think you will find that it was John Howard who ordered the 2 sacks of lime, he was having work done on his property in Suffolk.
I would not swear to it but I think the info is in one of John Ashdown Hills books.I will try to find it.
Loyaulte me Lie.
God Bless Richard
Regards
Christine
I would not swear to it but I think the info is in one of John Ashdown Hills books.I will try to find it.
Loyaulte me Lie.
God Bless Richard
Regards
Christine
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] sacks of lime….
2012-12-05 20:19:18
This is my theory too. For what that's worth
Vickie
From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: sacks of lime&.
Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> Sacks of Lime&.any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder&&if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
Vickie
From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: sacks of lime&.
Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> Sacks of Lime&.any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder&&if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] sacks of lime….
2012-12-05 20:35:41
My theory, for what it's worth: Buckingham was entrusted with the boys' welfare (and maybe even their removal from the Tower). Well, he had them removed...but after that...?
Judy
Loyaulte me lie
________________________________
From: Vickie Cook <lolettecook@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: sacks of lime&.
This is my theory too. For what that's worth
Vickie
From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: sacks of lime&.
Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
Judy
Loyaulte me lie
________________________________
From: Vickie Cook <lolettecook@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: sacks of lime&.
This is my theory too. For what that's worth
Vickie
From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: sacks of lime&.
Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] sacks of lime….
2012-12-05 21:16:49
Hi Vickie..I think if the boys were murdered...then yes..it would have been Bucks....Eileen
On 5 Dec 2012, at 20:19, Vickie Cook wrote:
> This is my theory too. For what that's worth
> Vickie
>
>
> From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: sacks of limeý.
>
> Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
>
> On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
>
> > Sacks of Limeý.any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonderýýif those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
On 5 Dec 2012, at 20:19, Vickie Cook wrote:
> This is my theory too. For what that's worth
> Vickie
>
>
> From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: sacks of limeý.
>
> Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
>
> On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
>
> > Sacks of Limeý.any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonderýýif those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] sacks of lime .
2012-12-05 21:43:30
BUT I would prefer to think that they were disappeared out of the country....poor little blighters.....Eileen
--- In , eileen bates <eileenbates147@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Vickie..I think if the boys were murdered...then yes..it would have been Bucks....Eileen
> On 5 Dec 2012, at 20:19, Vickie Cook wrote:
>
> > This is my theory too. For what that's worth
> > Vickie
> >
> >
> > From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime….
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
--- In , eileen bates <eileenbates147@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Vickie..I think if the boys were murdered...then yes..it would have been Bucks....Eileen
> On 5 Dec 2012, at 20:19, Vickie Cook wrote:
>
> > This is my theory too. For what that's worth
> > Vickie
> >
> >
> > From: eileen bates <eileenbates147@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: sacks of lime….
> >
> > Well....one theory is...from the Deceivers by Geoffrey Richardson...is that Bucks had the boys murdered , after being egged on by Morton,after Richard had left London on his progress. When he caught up with Richard and revealed the truth to Richard, thinking he would be pleased he had got rid of the problem of the boys, he was aghast at Richard's reaction...which was the reason for his rebellion....Eileen
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2012, at 02:31, carol darling wrote:
> >
> > > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
Re: sacks of lime .
2012-12-06 17:26:00
What actor is a book thief????
--- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>
> Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
>
--- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>
> Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
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Re: sacks of lime .
2012-12-06 17:35:21
Yes I wondered that too....Eileen
--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
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> What actor is a book thief????
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> --- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
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> > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
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--- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@...> wrote:
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> What actor is a book thief????
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> --- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
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> > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
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Re: sacks of lime .
2012-12-07 11:05:46
Hi All the two sacks of lime were bought by John Howard when at Crosby Place for work either at Crosby or for the work he was having done at Tendring Hall. Found this in Bertram Fields book Royal Blood, can't remember what page and Howard Household books purchases made at the time.
Howard was very particular in his household accounts.
Loyaulte me Lie.
Regards
Christine
--- In , "EileenB" <b.eileen25@...> wrote:
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> Yes I wondered that too....Eileen
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> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> > What actor is a book thief????
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> > --- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
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> > > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
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Howard was very particular in his household accounts.
Loyaulte me Lie.
Regards
Christine
--- In , "EileenB" <b.eileen25@...> wrote:
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> Yes I wondered that too....Eileen
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> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> > What actor is a book thief????
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> > --- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
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> > > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
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Re: sacks of lime .
2012-12-07 11:24:39
Thanks Christine...So all in all this little snippet which has often been repeated in various books proves to be totally misleading. Takes a Ricardian to clear it up.....Eileen
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> Hi All the two sacks of lime were bought by John Howard when at Crosby Place for work either at Crosby or for the work he was having done at Tendring Hall. Found this in Bertram Fields book Royal Blood, can't remember what page and Howard Household books purchases made at the time.
> Howard was very particular in his household accounts.
> Loyaulte me Lie.
> Regards
> Christine
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> --- In , "EileenB" <b.eileen25@> wrote:
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> > Yes I wondered that too....Eileen
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> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> > > What actor is a book thief????
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> > > --- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
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> > > > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
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--- In , "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
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> Hi All the two sacks of lime were bought by John Howard when at Crosby Place for work either at Crosby or for the work he was having done at Tendring Hall. Found this in Bertram Fields book Royal Blood, can't remember what page and Howard Household books purchases made at the time.
> Howard was very particular in his household accounts.
> Loyaulte me Lie.
> Regards
> Christine
>
> --- In , "EileenB" <b.eileen25@> wrote:
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> > Yes I wondered that too....Eileen
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> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" <blancsanglier1452@> wrote:
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> > > What actor is a book thief????
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> > > --- In , carol darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
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> > > > Sacks of Lime….any thoughts? I sent my entire Richardian resource book collection years ago to a prominent US actor, and didn't get them back, so Im not able to be current on research. But I recall a major disturbing detail. Buckingham acquired 2 sacks of lime shortly after Richard began his progress as the new King. Ostensibly they were to freshen the appearance of certain buildings on the route of the King. Two sacks only??? Very odd. Lime is used to hasten decay, mask odors on decaying matter, and to dry and somewhat freshen a dead creature. No one knows what happened to the Princes who disappeared at this time, and centuries later the skeletons were found at the stairs. I wonder……if those skeletons when examined in the 1930`s, had any minute traces of lime? Thoughts anyone?
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