Happy New Year!

I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.

So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.

Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!

Well, halloo, Carol!



No, my headaches are all the fault of my upcoming courses, that are going to
be taking up all my available time - when what I want to be doing is
reading, thinking, and discussing Richard III and his contemporaries!



(It's even later here in Atlantic Canada - 3:41 pm. - not to mention the
time in Britain - what, about 7:41 pm?)



I hope that the dearth of postings is due solely to the holidays intruding
and that we will soon have dozens of messages per day, not to mention joyous
news of the identity of the remains of the Greyfriars Warrior! <smile>



So - best wishes to you and all Ricardians for a wonderful New Year and the
rest of 2013!



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne

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Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

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From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:07 PM
To:
Subject: Happy New Year!





I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only
one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally
2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are
those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper
burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really
looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become
best sellers.

So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for
Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January
1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.

Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of
too much champagne!

Happy New Year to you! I haven't posted today because I'm too busy reading Annette Carson's incredible book. Yes, 2013 will be extraordinary for Ricardians. Now back to the chapter on witchcraft & Elizabeth Woodville. Maire.
--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
>
> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>
> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>
> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
>

Happy New Year, Johanne. Where are you in Canada? Maire.

--- In , Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> Well, halloo, Carol!
>
>
>
> No, my headaches are all the fault of my upcoming courses, that are going to
> be taking up all my available time - when what I want to be doing is
> reading, thinking, and discussing Richard III and his contemporaries!
>
>
>
> (It's even later here in Atlantic Canada - 3:41 pm. - not to mention the
> time in Britain - what, about 7:41 pm?)
>
>
>
> I hope that the dearth of postings is due solely to the holidays intruding
> and that we will soon have dozens of messages per day, not to mention joyous
> news of the identity of the remains of the Greyfriars Warrior! <smile>
>
>
>
> So - best wishes to you and all Ricardians for a wonderful New Year and the
> rest of 2013!
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:07 PM
> To:
> Subject: Happy New Year!
>
>
>
>
>
> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only
> one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally
> 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are
> those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper
> burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really
> looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become
> best sellers.
>
> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for
> Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January
> 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>
> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of
> too much champagne!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Happy new year, y'all !
3.19 at East Coast US. Have been bed ridden from excesses of last night.....:(
I have been a little bereft due to lack of posts recently!



Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:12 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:

>
> Happy New Year to you! I haven't posted today because I'm too busy reading Annette Carson's incredible book. Yes, 2013 will be extraordinary for Ricardians. Now back to the chapter on witchcraft & Elizabeth Woodville. Maire.
> --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> >
> > I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
> >
> > So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
> >
> > Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
> >
>
>

Happy New Year to everyone and I want to second Carol's comments about this coming year. 
 
Carol, my absence is not due to a surfeit of lampreys - whoops, sorry I meant champagne! - but due to the fact that my 14 year old niece is staying and my laptop seems to be permanently glued to her fingers.  I have finally menaged to wrestle it from her grasp but suspect it won't belong before she has managed to get it back.
 
 
Liz

________________________________

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:06
Subject: Happy New Year!

 
I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.

So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.

Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!

Take two aspirins and call me in the morning!

Feel better, Maire.

--- In , Richard Yahoo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
>
> Happy new year, y'all !
> 3.19 at East Coast US. Have been bed ridden from excesses of last night.....:(
> I have been a little bereft due to lack of posts recently!
>
>
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:12 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Happy New Year to you! I haven't posted today because I'm too busy reading Annette Carson's incredible book. Yes, 2013 will be extraordinary for Ricardians. Now back to the chapter on witchcraft & Elizabeth Woodville. Maire.
> > --- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
> > >
> > > So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
> > >
> > > Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

i wish the group all the best for the new year.
last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
well once again happy new year to you all.
eva.




________________________________
B: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
>: 2B>@=8:, 1 O=20@O 2013 20:06
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Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.

As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.

--- In , Eva D <evadomela@...> wrote:
>
> i wish the group all the best for the new year.
> last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
> i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
> also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
> and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
> well once again happy new year to you all.
> eva.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> От: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> Кому:
> Отправлено: вторник, 1 января 2013 20:06
> Тема: Happy New Year!
>
>
>  
> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>
> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>
> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks , am new here, regarding questions I was just wondering if there are better downloadable 15th century maps versus the one offered by Kendall (inside front cover) .. ? A Google search didnt reveal much..
Ray



-----Original Message-----
From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
To: <>
Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:35 am
Subject: Re: Отв: Happy New Year!




Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.

As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.

--- In , Eva D <evadomela@...> wrote:
>
> i wish the group all the best for the new year.
> last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
> i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
> also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
> and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
> well once again happy new year to you all.
> eva.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> От: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> Кому:
> Отправлено: вторник, 1 января 2013 20:06
> Тема: Happy New Year!
>
>
> Â
> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>
> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>
> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Ray...and a Happy New Year to you. I do not know to which map you refer but if you do not know already the Agas Map of London is excellent.....Here is a link...

http://mapoflondon.uvic.ca/index.htm

Eileen

--- In , raymond long <rrl1124@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks , am new here, regarding questions I was just wondering if there are better downloadable 15th century maps versus the one offered by Kendall (inside front cover) .. ? A Google search didnt reveal much..
> Ray
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:35 am
> Subject: Re: ОÃ`‚в: Happy New Year!
>
>
>
>
> Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.
>
> As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.
>
> --- In , Eva D <evadomela@> wrote:
> >
> > i wish the group all the best for the new year.
> > last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
> > i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
> > also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
> > and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
> > well once again happy new year to you all.
> > eva.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > ОÃ`‚: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > КомÃ`ƒ:
> > ОÃ`‚пÃ`€Ð°Ð²Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¾: вÃ`‚оÃ`€Ð½Ð¸Ðº, 1 Ã`Ð½Ð²Ð°Ã`€Ã` 2013 20:06
> > Тема: Happy New Year!
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
> >
> > So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
> >
> > Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Eileen. thanks , I meant to say a 15th cent. map of England/Scotland showing the key locations.
Ray.


-----Original Message-----
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To: <>
Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: Отв: Happy New Year!




Hi Ray...and a Happy New Year to you. I do not know to which map you refer but if you do not know already the Agas Map of London is excellent.....Here is a link...

http://mapoflondon.uvic.ca/index.htm

Eileen

--- In , raymond long <rrl1124@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks , am new here, regarding questions I was just wondering if there are better downloadable 15th century maps versus the one offered by Kendall (inside front cover) .. ? A Google search didnt reveal much..
> Ray
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:35 am
> Subject: Re: ОÃ`‚в: Happy New Year!
>
>
>
>
> Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.
>
> As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.
>
> --- In , Eva D <evadomela@> wrote:
> >
> > i wish the group all the best for the new year.
> > last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
> > i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
> > also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
> > and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
> > well once again happy new year to you all.
> > eva.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > ОÃ`‚: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > КомÃ`ƒ:
> > ОÃ`‚пÃ`€Ð°Ð²Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¾: вÃ`‚оÃ`€Ð½Ð¸Ðº, 1 Ã`Ð½Ð²Ð°Ã`€Ã` 2013 20:06
> > Тема: Happy New Year!
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
> >
> > So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
> >
> > Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>

O...OK Ray...Cannot help you with that...hopefully someone else will maybe... Eileen

--- In , raymond long <rrl1124@...> wrote:
>
> Eileen. thanks , I meant to say a 15th cent. map of England/Scotland showing the key locations.
> Ray.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 1:08 pm
> Subject: Re: ОÃÂ`‚в: Happy New Year!
>
>
>
>
> Hi Ray...and a Happy New Year to you. I do not know to which map you refer but if you do not know already the Agas Map of London is excellent.....Here is a link...
>
> http://mapoflondon.uvic.ca/index.htm
>
> Eileen
>
> --- In , raymond long <rrl1124@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks , am new here, regarding questions I was just wondering if there are better downloadable 15th century maps versus the one offered by Kendall (inside front cover) .. ? A Google search didnt reveal much..
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:35 am
> > Subject: Re: ОÃ`‚в: Happy New Year!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.
> >
> > As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Eva D <evadomela@> wrote:
> > >
> > > i wish the group all the best for the new year.
> > > last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
> > > i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
> > > also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
> > > and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
> > > well once again happy new year to you all.
> > > eva.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > ОÃ`‚: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > > КомÃ`ƒ:
> > > ОÃ`‚пÃ`€Ð°Ð²Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¾: вÃ`‚оÃ`€Ð½Ð¸Ðº, 1 Ã`Ð½Ð²Ð°Ã`€Ã` 2013 20:06
> > > Тема: Happy New Year!
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
> > >
> > > So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
> > >
> > > Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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A few maps here, not very definitive but might help:

http://etc.usf.edu/maps/pages/1000/1081/1081.htm


http://freespace.virgin.net/sheldon.stevens/index.html


http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&biw=1024&bih=653&tbm=isch&tbnid=TdhDGMKzQsaPtM:&imgrefurl=http://www.dirtbrothers.org/gallery/turner/turnerpage2.html&docid=xjOEW0uz_8_3FM&imgurl=http://www.dirtbrothers.org/gallery/turner/1399englanda.jpg&w=620&h=767&ei=-5LkUOQar5rUBc_mgbAN&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=462&sig=111675237919074572421&page=1&tbnh=152&tbnw=123&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:91&tx=55&ty=71





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From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 18:57
Subject: Re: Ã’ÂýÃÂ~Ã’ÂÃÂÃ’Âýò: Happy New Year!


 
O...OK Ray...Cannot help you with that...hopefully someone else will maybe... Eileen

--- In , raymond long <rrl1124@...> wrote:
>
> Eileen. thanks , I meant to say a 15th cent. map of England/Scotland showing the key locations.
> Ray.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 1:08 pm
> Subject: Re: Ã’ÂýÃÂ~Ã’Â`ÃÂÃ’Âýò: Happy New Year!
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> Hi Ray...and a Happy New Year to you. I do not know to which map you refer but if you do not know already the Agas Map of London is excellent.....Here is a link...
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> http://mapoflondon.uvic.ca/index.htm
>
> Eileen
>
> --- In , raymond long <rrl1124@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks , am new here, regarding questions I was just wondering if there are better downloadable 15th century maps versus the one offered by Kendall (inside front cover) .. ? A Google search didnt reveal much..
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:35 am
> > Subject: Re: Ã’ÂýÃÂ~Ã’`ÃÂÃ’Âýò: Happy New Year!
> >
> >
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> >
> > Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.
> >
> > As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Eva D <evadomela@> wrote:
> > >
> > > i wish the group all the best for the new year.
> > > last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
> > > i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
> > > also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
> > > and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
> > > well once again happy new year to you all.
> > > eva.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > Ã’ÂýÃÂ~Ã’`ÃÂ: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > > Ã’ÂýÃÂaÃ’ÂýþÒÂýüÒ`ÃÂ’:
> > > Ã’ÂýÃÂ~Ã’`ÃÂÃ’ÂýÿÒ`ìÒÂýðÒÂýòÒÂýûÒÂýõÒÂýýÒÂýþ: Ã’ÂýòÒ`ÃÂÃ’ÂýþÒ`ìÒÂýýÒÂýøÒÂýú, 1 Ã’`ÃÂýÃ’ÂýýÒÂýòÒÂýðÒ`ìÒ`ÃÂý 2013 20:06
> > > Ã’ÂýâÒÂýõÒÂýüÒÂýð: Happy New Year!
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã’Â
> > > I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
> > >
> > > So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
> > >
> > > Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
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We solved the problem by giving our nephew an iPad for Christmas...a 2nd generation, reconditioned model, but it filled the need. (And came with a Provision: "Remember when I bought you that toy, and you were in the back seat, acting up? And I said, 'Don't make me stop this car, or the toy goes back!' " Good, the Kid remembers.)

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie


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From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!


 
Happy New Year to everyone and I want to second Carol's comments about this coming year. 
 
Carol, my absence is not due to a surfeit of lampreys - whoops, sorry I meant champagne! - but due to the fact that my 14 year old niece is staying and my laptop seems to be permanently glued to her fingers.  I have finally menaged to wrestle it from her grasp but suspect it won't belong before she has managed to get it back.
 
 
Liz

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From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:06
Subject: Happy New Year!

 
I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.

So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.

Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!

Happy New Year
I will keep fingers crossed and breath baited till the full disclosure of the "unknown " person is ....
I can sympathize with you on the laptop
George

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2013, at 4:22 PM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

> Happy New Year to everyone and I want to second Carol's comments about this coming year.
>
> Carol, my absence is not due to a surfeit of lampreys - whoops, sorry I meant champagne! - but due to the fact that my 14 year old niece is staying and my laptop seems to be permanently glued to her fingers. I have finally menaged to wrestle it from her grasp but suspect it won't belong before she has managed to get it back.
>
>
> Liz
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:06
> Subject: Happy New Year!
>
>
> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>
> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>
> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
>
>
>
>

Hi

You should be able to find a suitable map of the battles on one of the War of the Roses sites. I have some maps of the the fourteenth century showing the towns that were already established. I can upload those if you think they may be useful. If you want something more specific such as Richard III's progress as king, then Rhoda Edwards book has maps of July 1483 to January 1484 and February 1484 to August 1485. I can upload those also if you wish.
Elaine



--- In , raymond long <rrl1124@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks , am new here, regarding questions I was just wondering if there are better downloadable 15th century maps versus the one offered by Kendall (inside front cover) .. ? A Google search didnt reveal much..
> Ray
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:35 am
> Subject: Re: ОÃ`‚в: Happy New Year!
>
>
>
>
> Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.
>
> As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.
>
> --- In , Eva D <evadomela@> wrote:
> >
> > i wish the group all the best for the new year.
> > last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
> > i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
> > also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
> > and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
> > well once again happy new year to you all.
> > eva.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > ОÃ`‚: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
> > КомÃ`ƒ:
> > ОÃ`‚пÃ`€Ð°Ð²Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¾: вÃ`‚оÃ`€Ð½Ð¸Ðº, 1 Ã`Ð½Ð²Ð°Ã`€Ã` 2013 20:06
> > Тема: Happy New Year!
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> > Â
> > I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
> >
> > So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
> >
> > Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
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If I play up in the car I wonder if my wife will buy me a new NikonD600!

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:

> We solved the problem by giving our nephew an iPad for Christmas...a 2nd generation, reconditioned model, but it filled the need. (And came with a Provision: "Remember when I bought you that toy, and you were in the back seat, acting up? And I said, 'Don't make me stop this car, or the toy goes back!' " Good, the Kid remembers.)
>
> Judy
>
> Loyaulte me lie
>
> ________________________________
> From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
> To: "" <>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Happy New Year!
>
>
>
> Happy New Year to everyone and I want to second Carol's comments about this coming year.
>
> Carol, my absence is not due to a surfeit of lampreys - whoops, sorry I meant champagne! - but due to the fact that my 14 year old niece is staying and my laptop seems to be permanently glued to her fingers. I have finally menaged to wrestle it from her grasp but suspect it won't belong before she has managed to get it back.
>
>
> Liz
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:06
> Subject: Happy New Year!
>
>
> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>
> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>
> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
>
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Goggle World has site of maps of battles that gives superb detail.
Paul

On 3 Jan 2013, at 00:25, ellrosa1452 wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> You should be able to find a suitable map of the battles on one of the War of the Roses sites. I have some maps of the the fourteenth century showing the towns that were already established. I can upload those if you think they may be useful. If you want something more specific such as Richard III's progress as king, then Rhoda Edwards book has maps of July 1483 to January 1484 and February 1484 to August 1485. I can upload those also if you wish.
> Elaine
>
>
>
> --- In , raymond long <rrl1124@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks , am new here, regarding questions I was just wondering if there are better downloadable 15th century maps versus the one offered by Kendall (inside front cover) .. ? A Google search didnt reveal much..
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:35 am
>> Subject: Re: ÃÂ1Ã`Â`ÃÂ: Happy New Year!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy New Year! Don't worry about not knowing as much as others. I'm still struggling to get knowledgeable but it doesn't stop me from commenting. Ask some questions and people will be glad to answer.
>>
>> As far as Richard's body after death, just go to the Richard the Third Society's website. It will tell you everything you need to know. I'd explain it but I may get a detail wrong and don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. Maire.
>>
>> --- In , Eva D <evadomela@> wrote:
>>>
>>> i wish the group all the best for the new year.
>>> last year, as i joined, i thought i would participate more, but stopped as my knowledge about Richard III is not even measurable compared by most of yours. but this year i decided to be bit more vocal.
>>> i am little bit confused as the last thing i read about the remains that have been found are actually identified as his. and apparently they are filming a documentary about him, or it's already done i'm not shore.
>>> also i wanted to know what ideas do you have about where and how he would be buried? i remember when the remains of the czar family where buried and the whole ceremony, but i somehow doubt that it would be the same with Richard (that has nothing to do with the view of Richard that is now days).
>>> and also one sort of random question, what happened to his body after he passed away? was there actually anything dome and how? of course i know how he died and the times, but i just didn't really ...
>>> well once again happy new year to you all.
>>> eva.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> ÃÂ1Ã`Â`: justcarol67 <justcarol67@>
>>> ÃÂÚÃÂdÃÂÀÃ`Â:
>>> ÃÂ1Ã`Â`ÿÃ`Â"ðÃÂûõÃÂÃÂd: ÃÂÃ`Â`ÃÂdÃ`Â"ÃÂøú, 1 Ã`ÂÃÂÃÂðÃ`Â"Ã` 2013 20:06
>>> âõÃÂÀð: Happy New Year!
>>>
>>>
>>> Ã`
>>> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>>>
>>> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>>>
>>> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
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Richard Liveth Yet!

She went home today so it's mine all mine again!  (Until her sister comes down for Feb half term .....)



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From: George Butterfield <gbutterf1@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 21:48
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!

 
Happy New Year
I will keep fingers crossed and breath baited till the full disclosure of the "unknown " person is ....
I can sympathize with you on the laptop
George

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2013, at 4:22 PM, liz williams <mailto:ferrymansdaughter%40btinternet.com> wrote:

> Happy New Year to everyone and I want to second Carol's comments about this coming year.
>
> Carol, my absence is not due to a surfeit of lampreys - whoops, sorry I meant champagne! - but due to the fact that my 14 year old niece is staying and my laptop seems to be permanently glued to her fingers. I have finally menaged to wrestle it from her grasp but suspect it won't belong before she has managed to get it back.
>
>
> Liz
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: justcarol67 <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:06
> Subject: Happy New Year!
>
>
> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>
> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>
> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
>
>
>
>

It's nice to have your computer back, Liz!  Carol, isn't it only 2013, not 2113?  Maybe I've had a Rip Van Winkle sleep for a hundred years.

Sheffe





>________________________________
> From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
>To: "" <>
>Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:16 AM
>Subject: Re: Happy New Year!
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> 
>She went home today so it's mine all mine again!  (Until her sister comes down for Feb half term .....)
>
>________________________________
>From: George Butterfield gbutterf1@...>
>To: "" >
>Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 21:48
>Subject: Re: Happy New Year!
>
> 
>Happy New Year
>I will keep fingers crossed and breath baited till the full disclosure of the "unknown " person is ....
>I can sympathize with you on the laptop
>George
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jan 1, 2013, at 4:22 PM, liz williams wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year to everyone and I want to second Carol's comments about this coming year.
>>
>> Carol, my absence is not due to a surfeit of lampreys - whoops, sorry I meant champagne! - but due to the fact that my 14 year old niece is staying and my laptop seems to be permanently glued to her fingers. I have finally menaged to wrestle it from her grasp but suspect it won't belong before she has managed to get it back.
>>
>>
>> Liz
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: justcarol67
>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:06
>> Subject: Happy New Year!
>>
>>
>> I expected to find a plethora of New Year's posts, but here I am the only one and it's already almost noon on New Year's Day in Arizona! It's finally 2113, the year when we'll find out if the remains at Leicester really are those of Richard III and, if so, the year when Richard will receive a proper burial, the year when we'll find out how tall he was and what he really looked like, and, I hope, the year when books on the real Richard become best sellers.
>>
>> So Happy New Year to everyone. With luck, it will be the best year ever for Ricardians. True, Richard would not have celebrated the New Year on January 1, but we don't have to wait until March 25.
>>
>> Carol, hoping that the absence of posters around here isn't the result of too much champagne!
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Sheffe wrote:
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> It's nice to have your computer back, Liz!  Carol, isn't it only 2013, not 2113?  Maybe I've had a Rip Van Winkle sleep for a hundred years.
>
> Sheffe

Carol responds:

I never could type numbers! And I can't even plead too much champagne since all I had was sparkling apple pomegranate cider.

2013 1013 1013 (uncorrected) 2013 1913 (cries, starts to give up) 2013 2013 2013 (There. I'll get it right yet. But I have to look at the keys and even then I sometimes mess up.)

Carol

thank you maire. will go to the site :)
eva.