Conquest: Battle-axe (Was Re: Programme on YESTERDAY channel tonight

Hi, Eileen,

Oh, ickle. Maybe it's better Richard died rather than trying to live through the surgery of removing the arrowhead in his back? (Ignoring the other injuries.) I think he'd rather have died than been paralyzed -- by the surgery if not by the injury itself.

Even with all the gruesomeness, I still hope someone uploads this to YouTube so those of us outside Britain can watch it. We're not allowed to access the One Show internationally, which is just one more example of why I despair of seeing Channel 4's eventual R3 documentary in anything approaching a timely manner.

There's a show out there called "Conquest" that's American made, which features a group of men and women learning how to use ancient weaponry every week. One of them featured the battle-axe. All the learners initially dismissed it as awkward and useless, until the host showed them how to use it -- mainly roar like a Viking and come crashing in on your enemies, and hurl the thing in all directions at once so no one could get near you.

What it made me realize is that the battle-axe is basically an offensive weapon, offering absolutely no defense. Richard knew exactly what he was doing when he charged down that hill: he was gambling all or nothing.

Conquest: Battle-Axe --
Part 1: http://youtu.be/zhRCNLMzUMY
Part 2: http://youtu.be/EYrOI-3bDKY
Part 3: http://youtu.be/yaG_OO1RYE8

~Weds


--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
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> Enjoyed the programme...They demonstrated with a large dead pig...poor pig...how they would remove arrowheads. How the wounded person coped with the pain is anyone's guess. First they would insert two flat probes either side of the wound opening, dig around until they got hold of said arrowhead and pulled it out. The then cauterised the wound by means of heating up a probe thingy,inserting it in the hole and kind of stirring it around...you could hear the sizzling and of course the smell must have been awful. How anyone survived I know not....
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> The actual battle site and how the battle went was explained to make it understandable. The rout was absolutely horrendous....very steep running down and trying to get to the beck which was in spate....many were drowned. So many bodies they formed bridges...
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> If the wind had not blown in the direction of the Lancastrian forces which were larger, snow and sleet the battle may have gone the other way...Eileen

Weds
This is how stories get spread.
You take it that the remains found in Leicester are Richard and that the arrow head in the grave definitely had been in his back? We do not yet know, so please don't make statements that sound like you are quoting known facts. Soon it will be out there as a fact, which it is not, that Richard was shot in the back by an archer.
Please, think carefully before you say such thing.
Please.
Paul

On 12 Jan 2013, at 20:28, wednesday_mc wrote:

> Hi, Eileen,
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> Oh, ickle. Maybe it's better Richard died rather than trying to live through the surgery of removing the arrowhead in his back? (Ignoring the other injuries.) I think he'd rather have died than been paralyzed -- by the surgery if not by the injury itself.
>
> Even with all the gruesomeness, I still hope someone uploads this to YouTube so those of us outside Britain can watch it. We're not allowed to access the One Show internationally, which is just one more example of why I despair of seeing Channel 4's eventual R3 documentary in anything approaching a timely manner.
>
> There's a show out there called "Conquest" that's American made, which features a group of men and women learning how to use ancient weaponry every week. One of them featured the battle-axe. All the learners initially dismissed it as awkward and useless, until the host showed them how to use it -- mainly roar like a Viking and come crashing in on your enemies, and hurl the thing in all directions at once so no one could get near you.
>
> What it made me realize is that the battle-axe is basically an offensive weapon, offering absolutely no defense. Richard knew exactly what he was doing when he charged down that hill: he was gambling all or nothing.
>
> Conquest: Battle-Axe --
> Part 1: http://youtu.be/zhRCNLMzUMY
> Part 2: http://youtu.be/EYrOI-3bDKY
> Part 3: http://youtu.be/yaG_OO1RYE8
>
> ~Weds
>
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
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>> Enjoyed the programme...They demonstrated with a large dead pig...poor pig...how they would remove arrowheads. How the wounded person coped with the pain is anyone's guess. First they would insert two flat probes either side of the wound opening, dig around until they got hold of said arrowhead and pulled it out. The then cauterised the wound by means of heating up a probe thingy,inserting it in the hole and kind of stirring it around...you could hear the sizzling and of course the smell must have been awful. How anyone survived I know not....
>>
>> The actual battle site and how the battle went was explained to make it understandable. The rout was absolutely horrendous....very steep running down and trying to get to the beck which was in spate....many were drowned. So many bodies they formed bridges...
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>> If the wind had not blown in the direction of the Lancastrian forces which were larger, snow and sleet the battle may have gone the other way...Eileen
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Richard Liveth Yet!

You're right. I'm sorry.

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
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> Weds
> This is how stories get spread.
> You take it that the remains found in Leicester are Richard and that the arrow head in the grave definitely had been in his back? We do not yet know, so please don't make statements that sound like you are quoting known facts. Soon it will be out there as a fact, which it is not, that Richard was shot in the back by an archer.
> Please, think carefully before you say such thing.
> Please.
> Paul