The King Under the Car Park
The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 19:34:40
It gets wrse and worse.
While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
Dismayed.
I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
Dismayed.
I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 19:52:29
Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> It gets wrse and worse.
> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> Dismayed.
> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> Paul
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> It gets wrse and worse.
> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> Dismayed.
> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> Paul
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
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Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 20:25:53
Tony Robinson is an arse (pardon my French, as the saying goes). Does anyone actually like him? However, he's not involved in Monday's programme as far as I am aware and I think most people (ie those not wildly interested like we are) won't watch More 4 especially on a Saturday night.
What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 19:34
Subject: The King Under the Car Park
It gets wrse and worse.
While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
Dismayed.
I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 19:34
Subject: The King Under the Car Park
It gets wrse and worse.
While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
Dismayed.
I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 20:28:17
Oh God....! Is there never going to be an end to this rubbish...Eileen
On 29 Jan 2013, at 20:25, liz williams wrote:
> Tony Robinson is an arse (pardon my French, as the saying goes). Does anyone actually like him? However, he's not involved in Monday's programme as far as I am aware and I think most people (ie those not wildly interested like we are) won't watch More 4 especially on a Saturday night.
>
> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum >
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 19:34
> Subject: The King Under the Car Park
>
>
> It gets wrse and worse.
> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> Dismayed.
> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
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>
On 29 Jan 2013, at 20:25, liz williams wrote:
> Tony Robinson is an arse (pardon my French, as the saying goes). Does anyone actually like him? However, he's not involved in Monday's programme as far as I am aware and I think most people (ie those not wildly interested like we are) won't watch More 4 especially on a Saturday night.
>
> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum >
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 19:34
> Subject: The King Under the Car Park
>
>
> It gets wrse and worse.
> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> Dismayed.
> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
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Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 20:36:48
Perhaps he can reenact R3's death for us, I have a nearby car park?
G
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On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:
> Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > It gets wrse and worse.
> > While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> > So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> > Dismayed.
> > I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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G
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:
> Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > It gets wrse and worse.
> > While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> > So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> > Dismayed.
> > I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 21:35:41
Just heard from totally reliable source that Tony Robinson is NOT involved with the programme after all and that the listings magazines have messed up. Philippa is annoyed that at this late stage someone seems to be working against things!
We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
Paul
who is very relieved...
On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
> Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>>
>> It gets wrse and worse.
>> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
>> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
>> Dismayed.
>> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
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> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
Richard Liveth Yet!
We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
Paul
who is very relieved...
On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
> Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>>
>> It gets wrse and worse.
>> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
>> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
>> Dismayed.
>> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
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> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 21:37:50
Well thank goodness for that.....big sigh of relief...Eileen
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just heard from totally reliable source that Tony Robinson is NOT involved with the programme after all and that the listings magazines have messed up. Philippa is annoyed that at this late stage someone seems to be working against things!
> We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
> Paul
> who is very relieved...
>
> On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
>
> > Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >>
> >> It gets wrse and worse.
> >> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> >> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> >> Dismayed.
> >> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just heard from totally reliable source that Tony Robinson is NOT involved with the programme after all and that the listings magazines have messed up. Philippa is annoyed that at this late stage someone seems to be working against things!
> We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
> Paul
> who is very relieved...
>
> On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
>
> > Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >>
> >> It gets wrse and worse.
> >> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> >> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> >> Dismayed.
> >> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 21:40:50
Will the present Richard Duke of York be at the reburial service? I wonder who else will be deemed fit to attend. Invitation only I'll bet
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 21:43:07
The present Duke of York is one Andrew Oldenburg.
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From: carole jenkins <carolejenkins57@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 21:40
Subject: Re: Re: The King Under the Car Park
Will the present Richard Duke of York be at the reburial service? I wonder who else will be deemed fit to attend. Invitation only I'll bet
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From: carole jenkins <carolejenkins57@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 21:40
Subject: Re: Re: The King Under the Car Park
Will the present Richard Duke of York be at the reburial service? I wonder who else will be deemed fit to attend. Invitation only I'll bet
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 21:48:01
On 29 Jan 2013, at 20:25, liz williams wrote:
> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
My apologies to Phillipa and John. The message sent me actually read "Philippa and John were happy with it", my source had the reservations. All got mixed up in the horrible thought of Tony Robinson!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
My apologies to Phillipa and John. The message sent me actually read "Philippa and John were happy with it", my source had the reservations. All got mixed up in the horrible thought of Tony Robinson!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-29 22:29:11
Seen the trailer, definitely no TR.
The facial reconstruction looks rather familiar, but as I've said I don't believe they can do this without being influenced by the contemporary portraits.
http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/richard-iii-the-king-in-the-car-park
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 21:41
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
On 29 Jan 2013, at 20:25, liz williams wrote:
> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
My apologies to Phillipa and John. The message sent me actually read "Philippa and John were happy with it", my source had the reservations. All got mixed up in the horrible thought of Tony Robinson!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
The facial reconstruction looks rather familiar, but as I've said I don't believe they can do this without being influenced by the contemporary portraits.
http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/richard-iii-the-king-in-the-car-park
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 21:41
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
On 29 Jan 2013, at 20:25, liz williams wrote:
> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
My apologies to Phillipa and John. The message sent me actually read "Philippa and John were happy with it", my source had the reservations. All got mixed up in the horrible thought of Tony Robinson!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 00:14:40
Now I am all depressed! Why did the R3 society agree with the arrangement? I mean the presenter?
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:
> Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > It gets wrse and worse.
> > While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> > So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> > Dismayed.
> > I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:
> Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > It gets wrse and worse.
> > While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> > So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> > Dismayed.
> > I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 00:18:43
Maybe people will not watch the repeat programs on Sunday...... And I am still hoping somehow we can watch the documentary here in USA.....
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On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:37 PM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
> Well thank goodness for that.....big sigh of relief...Eileen
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > Just heard from totally reliable source that Tony Robinson is NOT involved with the programme after all and that the listings magazines have messed up. Philippa is annoyed that at this late stage someone seems to be working against things!
> > We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
> > Paul
> > who is very relieved...
> >
> > On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
> >
> > > Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It gets wrse and worse.
> > >> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> > >> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> > >> Dismayed.
> > >> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:37 PM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
> Well thank goodness for that.....big sigh of relief...Eileen
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > Just heard from totally reliable source that Tony Robinson is NOT involved with the programme after all and that the listings magazines have messed up. Philippa is annoyed that at this late stage someone seems to be working against things!
> > We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
> > Paul
> > who is very relieved...
> >
> > On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
> >
> > > Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It gets wrse and worse.
> > >> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> > >> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> > >> Dismayed.
> > >> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 09:44:41
Hi George I like it, can I attend the action.
Loyaulte me Lie
Christine
Loyaulte me Lie
Christine
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 09:47:18
It's probably the ghost of Turdor as my friend calls HT mucking things up.
Christine
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From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 21:37
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
Well thank goodness for that.....big sigh of relief...Eileen
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just heard from totally reliable source that Tony Robinson is NOT involved with the programme after all and that the listings magazines have messed up. Philippa is annoyed that at this late stage someone seems to be working against things!
> We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
> Paul
> who is very relieved...
>
> On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
>
> > Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >>
> >> It gets wrse and worse.
> >> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> >> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> >> Dismayed.
> >> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
Christine
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From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 21:37
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
Well thank goodness for that.....big sigh of relief...Eileen
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
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> Just heard from totally reliable source that Tony Robinson is NOT involved with the programme after all and that the listings magazines have messed up. Philippa is annoyed that at this late stage someone seems to be working against things!
> We still have to put up with the 3 hours on Saturday though!
> Paul
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> On 29 Jan 2013, at 19:52, mairemulholland wrote:
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> > Sigh...I'm glad I'm here in NJ and don't have to watch. Maire.
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> >> It gets wrse and worse.
> >> While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
> >> So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
> >> Dismayed.
> >> I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
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Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 12:25:41
Except there are n contemporary portraits, even the famous Windsor one is a copy of a copy of maybe one taken from life. Mt favourite, which looks more human than the Windsor does, the Broken Sword one, is a copy of an earlier one too. If the reconstruction looks like the Windsor portrait, and I will wait for the programme to see it, I am not surprised and will be disappointed.
Paul
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On 29 Jan 2013, at 22:29, david rayner wrote:
> Seen the trailer, definitely no TR.
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> The facial reconstruction looks rather familiar, but as I've said I don't believe they can do this without being influenced by the contemporary portraits.
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> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/richard-iii-the-king-in-the-car-park
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>> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
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> My apologies to Phillipa and John. The message sent me actually read "Philippa and John were happy with it", my source had the reservations. All got mixed up in the horrible thought of Tony Robinson!
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On 29 Jan 2013, at 22:29, david rayner wrote:
> Seen the trailer, definitely no TR.
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> The facial reconstruction looks rather familiar, but as I've said I don't believe they can do this without being influenced by the contemporary portraits.
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> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/richard-iii-the-king-in-the-car-park
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> On 29 Jan 2013, at 20:25, liz williams wrote:
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>> What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
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> My apologies to Phillipa and John. The message sent me actually read "Philippa and John were happy with it", my source had the reservations. All got mixed up in the horrible thought of Tony Robinson!
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Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 17:36:27
Carole Jenkins wrote:
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> Will the present Richard Duke of York be at the reburial service? I wonder who else will be deemed fit to attend. Invitation only I'll bet
Carol responds:
I'll be very surprised if Richard Duke of Gloucester, the patron of the Richard III Society, doesn't show up for the service. I haven't seen any comments from him, but I'll be very surprised if he doesn't make an official statement soon, possibly on February 4.
(The present Duke of York is Prince Andrew. The title is usually reserved for the second son of the king or queen, IIRC.)
Carol
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> Will the present Richard Duke of York be at the reburial service? I wonder who else will be deemed fit to attend. Invitation only I'll bet
Carol responds:
I'll be very surprised if Richard Duke of Gloucester, the patron of the Richard III Society, doesn't show up for the service. I haven't seen any comments from him, but I'll be very surprised if he doesn't make an official statement soon, possibly on February 4.
(The present Duke of York is Prince Andrew. The title is usually reserved for the second son of the king or queen, IIRC.)
Carol
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 17:42:26
David Rayner wrote:
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> The present Duke of York is one Andrew Oldenburg.
Carol responds:
Not Mountbatten-Windsor? (If he styled himself the way dukes of Richard's time did, it would be Andrew York.)
Carol
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> The present Duke of York is one Andrew Oldenburg.
Carol responds:
Not Mountbatten-Windsor? (If he styled himself the way dukes of Richard's time did, it would be Andrew York.)
Carol
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 18:35:58
Christine wrote:
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> It's probably the ghost of Turdor as my friend calls HT mucking things up.
> Christine
Carol responds:
"Turdor"? Do I detect a Freudian slip? Sorry. I couldn't resist.
Carol
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> It's probably the ghost of Turdor as my friend calls HT mucking things up.
> Christine
Carol responds:
"Turdor"? Do I detect a Freudian slip? Sorry. I couldn't resist.
Carol
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 19:34:30
To the best of my knowledge it is Mountbatten-Windsor or just plain Windsor for some of them. I believe Oldenburg is something to do with Prince Philip's family, if you go back far enough, so I think it was David having his little joke. Of course they should all be something like Schleswig-Holstein von Glucksberg which was Philip's father's name - Philip's mother was the Mountbatten.
However, they do sometimes style themselves "York", "Kent" or "Wales" in the case of Prince Charles's sons. It's common amongst the aristocracy. Princess Margaret's son, for example, is David Linley becuase he is Viscount Linley, although his surname is Armstrong-Jones.
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From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 17:42
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
David Rayner wrote:
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> The present Duke of York is one Andrew Oldenburg.
Carol responds:
Not Mountbatten-Windsor? (If he styled himself the way dukes of Richard's time did, it would be Andrew York.)
Carol
However, they do sometimes style themselves "York", "Kent" or "Wales" in the case of Prince Charles's sons. It's common amongst the aristocracy. Princess Margaret's son, for example, is David Linley becuase he is Viscount Linley, although his surname is Armstrong-Jones.
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From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 17:42
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
David Rayner wrote:
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> The present Duke of York is one Andrew Oldenburg.
Carol responds:
Not Mountbatten-Windsor? (If he styled himself the way dukes of Richard's time did, it would be Andrew York.)
Carol
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 19:35:11
This is what I so feared when I wrote my 'Selling Richard' post. Where is Michael Wood? Hilary
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From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 20:25
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
Tony Robinson is an arse (pardon my French, as the saying goes). Does anyone actually like him? However, he's not involved in Monday's programme as far as I am aware and I think most people (ie those not wildly interested like we are) won't watch More 4 especially on a Saturday night.
What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
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From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 19:34
Subject: The King Under the Car Park
It gets wrse and worse.
While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
Dismayed.
I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
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From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 20:25
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
Tony Robinson is an arse (pardon my French, as the saying goes). Does anyone actually like him? However, he's not involved in Monday's programme as far as I am aware and I think most people (ie those not wildly interested like we are) won't watch More 4 especially on a Saturday night.
What does concern me is your comment that Philippa and JAH are "happy though not enthusiastically so".
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From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 19:34
Subject: The King Under the Car Park
It gets wrse and worse.
While the Tony Robinson show gets 95 minute slot of Monday, most of which will feature Mr R, he also gets a half hour on Saturday, dishing Richard and saying how he killed his nephews and wanted to marry his neice as fact. This after an hour of York hatred from Starkey with a repeat of his WOTR nonsense in Monarchy. Followed by another repeat of the Perkin Warbeck film.
So anti Richard gets the best part of three hours Saturday, then if we're lucky we might get part of an hour on Monday. I am being cynical I know, but I have never trusted Tony Robinson.
Dismayed.
I am told Philippa and John Ashdown-Hill are happy with the programme, though not enthusiastically so!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: The King Under the Car Park
2013-01-30 21:11:53
I'm going by the unbroken male line counting backwards. The earliest known ancestor is a viking pirate who established himself as Count of Oldenburg. Like most of the Balkans states which emerged from the Ottoman Empire, Greece adopted German royalty.
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From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 19:34
Subject: Re: Re: The King Under the Car Park
To the best of my knowledge it is Mountbatten-Windsor or just plain Windsor for some of them. I believe Oldenburg is something to do with Prince Philip's family, if you go back far enough, so I think it was David having his little joke. Of course they should all be something like Schleswig-Holstein von Glucksberg which was Philip's father's name - Philip's mother was the Mountbatten.
However, they do sometimes style themselves "York", "Kent" or "Wales" in the case of Prince Charles's sons. It's common amongst the aristocracy. Princess Margaret's son, for example, is David Linley becuase he is Viscount Linley, although his surname is Armstrong-Jones.
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From: justcarol67 justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 17:42
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
David Rayner wrote:
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> The present Duke of York is one Andrew Oldenburg.
Carol responds:
Not Mountbatten-Windsor? (If he styled himself the way dukes of Richard's time did, it would be Andrew York.)
Carol
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From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 19:34
Subject: Re: Re: The King Under the Car Park
To the best of my knowledge it is Mountbatten-Windsor or just plain Windsor for some of them. I believe Oldenburg is something to do with Prince Philip's family, if you go back far enough, so I think it was David having his little joke. Of course they should all be something like Schleswig-Holstein von Glucksberg which was Philip's father's name - Philip's mother was the Mountbatten.
However, they do sometimes style themselves "York", "Kent" or "Wales" in the case of Prince Charles's sons. It's common amongst the aristocracy. Princess Margaret's son, for example, is David Linley becuase he is Viscount Linley, although his surname is Armstrong-Jones.
________________________________
From: justcarol67 justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 17:42
Subject: Re: The King Under the Car Park
David Rayner wrote:
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> The present Duke of York is one Andrew Oldenburg.
Carol responds:
Not Mountbatten-Windsor? (If he styled himself the way dukes of Richard's time did, it would be Andrew York.)
Carol
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