The R3 Evening on More tonight

Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H

I put it on for about 5 seconds.  I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient Rome  (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen. 
 
 


________________________________
From: hjnatdat <hjnatdat@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H

My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen

--- In , liz williams wrote:
>
> I put it on for about 5 seconds.  I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient Rome  (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen. 
>  
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hjnatdat
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>  
> Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
>
>
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>
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Hilary, that's too funny!!!




________________________________
From: hjnatdat <hjnatdat@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 1:13 PM
Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 
Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H

Eileen, Liz,
 
You know sometimes  suffering comes with a bonus. Starkey's programme wasn't a rehash of his bit on the the 'Three Brutal Brothers' in Monarchy - it was longer and much more detailed. Whilst he can't get his head round Richard he was actually sympathetic to ...Clarence, and he was very hard on the failure of H7. And Robinson, whilst bringing in Anne Sutton, the Society, Keith Dockray and Pollard concluded he could have murdered his nephews but only because he'd discovered E4 was illegitimate (in came Michael Jones). Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H


________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 


My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
>
> I put it on for about 5 seconds.  I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient Rome  (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen. 
>  
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hjnatdat
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>  
> Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
>
>
>
>
>
>

Its good to live in hope.....:0)

--- In , Hilary Jones wrote:
>
>Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>
>  
>
>
> My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> >
> > I put it on for about 5 seconds.  I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient Rome  (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen. 
> >  
> >  
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: hjnatdat
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> > Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> >
> >  
> > Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Off topic, but can someone tell me why when I reply from my home email (rather than the forum website) I get all these funny numbers and condensed spellings in the posts. I'm sure it's been asked a thousand times, so many apologies.


________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 21:41
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 

Its good to live in hope.....:0)

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones wrote:
>
>Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>
>  
>
>
> My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> >
> > I put it on for about 5 seconds.à I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient Romeà (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen.à
> > à
> > à
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: hjnatdat
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> > Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> >
> > à
> > Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
> >
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........... of Robinson swinging?

----- Original Message -----
From: EileenB
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight



Its good to live in hope.....:0)

--- In , Hilary Jones wrote:
>
>Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers? I am cautiously optimistic... H
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>
> Â
>
>
> My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> >
> > I put it on for about 5 seconds.Ã, I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient RomeÃ, (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen.Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: hjnatdat
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> > Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
> >
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ROTFL....Eileen

--- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> ........... of Robinson swinging?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>
>
> Its good to live in hope.....:0)
>
> --- In , Hilary Jones wrote:
> >
> >Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers? I am cautiously optimistic... H
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
> > Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> > My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> > >
> > > I put it on for about 5 seconds.Ã, I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient RomeÃ, (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen.Ã,Â
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Ã,Â
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: hjnatdat
> > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> > > Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> > >
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
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That's very interesting.    Changing their minds are they?  Hmmm



________________________________
From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 21:37
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
Eileen, Liz,
 
You know sometimes  suffering comes with a bonus. Starkey's programme wasn't a rehash of his bit on the the 'Three Brutal Brothers' in Monarchy - it was longer and much more detailed. Whilst he can't get his head round Richard he was actually sympathetic to ...Clarence, and he was very hard on the failure of H7. And Robinson, whilst bringing in Anne Sutton, the Society, Keith Dockray and Pollard concluded he could have murdered his nephews but only because he'd discovered E4 was illegitimate (in came Michael Jones). Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H


________________________________
From: EileenB mailto:cherryripe.eileenb%40googlemail.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 


My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
>
> I put it on for about 5 seconds.  I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient Rome  (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen. 
>  
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hjnatdat
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>  
> Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
>
>
>
>
>
>

Now, now, now - he was even sitting round an 18th century table when he described 'this was how the Hastings meeting happened'!  But ....he was 'making excuses' for the brave and loyal Richard's 'murders'. What do you think of Dockray who featured a lot? 



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 22:12
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 

ROTFL....Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> ........... of Robinson swinging?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: EileenB
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>
>
> Its good to live in hope.....:0)
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones wrote:
> >
> >Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers? I am cautiously optimistic... H
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
> > Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> > My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> > >
> > > I put it on for about 5 seconds.Ã, I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient RomeÃ, (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen.Ã,Â
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Ã,Â
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: hjnatdat
> > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> > > Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> > >
> > > Ã,Â
> > > Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

________________________________
From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of liz williams
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 4:13 PM
To:
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight



That's very interesting. Changing their minds are they? Hmmm

________________________________
From: Hilary Jones hjnatdat@...<mailto:hjnatdat%40yahoo.com>>
To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 21:37
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


Eileen, Liz,

You know sometimes suffering comes with a bonus. Starkey's programme wasn't a rehash of his bit on the the 'Three Brutal Brothers' in Monarchy - it was longer and much more detailed. Whilst he can't get his head round Richard he was actually sympathetic to ...Clarence, and he was very hard on the failure of H7. And Robinson, whilst bringing in Anne Sutton, the Society, Keith Dockray and Pollard concluded he could have murdered his nephews but only because he'd discovered E4 was illegitimate (in came Michael Jones). Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers? I am cautiously optimistic... H

________________________________
From: EileenB mailto:cherryripe.eileenb%40googlemail.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 20:34
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight



My husband mentioned it to me and mentioned the name "Starkey"....I told him he could continue to watch the football....:0/ Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
>
> I put it on for about 5 seconds. I didn't intend to watch it anyway to be honest - I Am watching The Treasures of Ancient Rome (ancient history being my other big passion) instead, followed by Borgen.Â
> Â
> Â
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hjnatdat
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:13
> Subject: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
> Â
> Just tuned in to suffer - one should listen to all views - to note that it's being followed by ...... The Sixth Sense! Perhaps they have been tapping into us after all?! H
>
>
>
>
>
>

Evening All!!

Here is a schedule of media interviews that will be taking place over
Sunday 3rd & Monday 4th February.

cheers

Jac

******************

SCHEDULE OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS


WENDY MOORHEN
Wendy will be giving a live interview with Radio 5 Live around 11.55am
tomorrow Sunday 3rd February


******

PHIL STONE
Phil is giving a series of interviews on Monday 4th February

BBC Radio Northants Monday 4th Breakfast and Tea time
programmes - recorded in Fotheringhay

BBC Radio Wales Monday 4th Live - between 11.00 to 11.30
BBC Radio Merseyside Monday 4th
BBC Radio York Monday 4th
BBC Radio Tees Monday 4th

BBC Radio 2 Monday 4th timing not confirmed

CNN television Monday 4th should appear on their website
some time during the day - recorded at the Tower!

Phil is also doing a podcast for the BBC which
will go out on Friday, 8th February

************


ANNETTE CARSON

Annette will be talking to

BBC Radio Lancashire on the morning of Monday 4 February at
about 07.40

BBC Radio Northern Ireland at some time before 09.00) on the same
morning, details to be confirmed tomorrow.

PHILIPPA LANGLEY

Philippa Langley will be at the site of the dig in Leicester from about
06.45 Monday morning for BBC TV Network News, Midlands Bureau,
primarily for a programme called BBC Breakfast TV, which
probably is a Midlands Region
slot, not necessarily carried by other regions. However, this may also
end up on early BBC TV news coverage in other areas.

It might be a good idea to monitor the BBC News
website from an early hour.

******

I'll bet you anything that, like Stanley, they're leaving room to leap to either/every side of the fence after they've considered Monday's documentary and the public's reaction to it.



--- In , liz williams wrote:
>
> That's very interesting.    Changing their minds are they?  Hmmm
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Hilary Jones
> To: ""
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 21:37
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>  
> Eileen, Liz,
>  
> You know sometimes  suffering comes with a bonus. Starkey's programme wasn't a rehash of his bit on the the 'Three Brutal Brothers' in Monarchy - it was longer and much more detailed. Whilst he can't get his head round Richard he was actually sympathetic to ...Clarence, and he was very hard on the failure of H7. And Robinson, whilst bringing in Anne Sutton, the Society, Keith Dockray and Pollard concluded he could have murdered his nephews but only because he'd discovered E4 was illegitimate (in came Michael Jones). Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H

Thanks for this.  It's getting exciting now!



________________________________
From: jacqui <jacqui@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 22:35
Subject: media interviews Sun/Mon

 
Evening All!!

Here is a schedule of media interviews that will be taking place over
Sunday 3rd & Monday 4th February.

cheers

Jac

******************

SCHEDULE OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS

WENDY MOORHEN
Wendy will be giving a live interview with Radio 5 Live around 11.55am
tomorrow Sunday 3rd February

******

PHIL STONE
Phil is giving a series of interviews on Monday 4th February

BBC Radio Northants Monday 4th Breakfast and Tea time
programmes - recorded in Fotheringhay

BBC Radio Wales Monday 4th Live - between 11.00 to 11.30
BBC Radio Merseyside Monday 4th
BBC Radio York Monday 4th
BBC Radio Tees Monday 4th

BBC Radio 2 Monday 4th timing not confirmed

CNN television Monday 4th should appear on their website
some time during the day - recorded at the Tower!

Phil is also doing a podcast for the BBC which
will go out on Friday, 8th February

************

ANNETTE CARSON

Annette will be talking to

BBC Radio Lancashire on the morning of Monday 4 February at
about 07.40

BBC Radio Northern Ireland at some time before 09.00) on the same
morning, details to be confirmed tomorrow.

PHILIPPA LANGLEY

Philippa Langley will be at the site of the dig in Leicester from about
06.45 Monday morning for BBC TV Network News, Midlands Bureau,
primarily for a programme called BBC Breakfast TV, which
probably is a Midlands Region
slot, not necessarily carried by other regions. However, this may also
end up on early BBC TV news coverage in other areas.

It might be a good idea to monitor the BBC News
website from an early hour.

******

Hi
This is a reply to Hilary and Wednesday

Neither program was new; just a repeat. I think the Robinson program had a date of MMII. It was apparent that it was not new as it retold the tale of the despoiling of the monastery and the removal of Richard's remains, which does not seem to have been the case. I am wording that extremely cautiously as I hope will be confirmed on Monday. What Starkey and Robinson are guilty of is of course, mugging to the camera and playing for effect thereby not allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Furthermore, the omissions and insinuations together with the lack of dates to back up and provide a chronological timeline of events allowed Starkey in particular, and Robinson, the opportunity to practise their own versions of the dark arts of the propagandist. The omission of a clear timeline with substantiated facts and dates appeared deliberate in order to fudge issues and to reinterpret information according to the inclinations of the presenters as in both programs Starkey and Robinson are clearly more than just presenters.
Elaine

--- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>
> I'll bet you anything that, like Stanley, they're leaving room to leap to either/every side of the fence after they've considered Monday's documentary and the public's reaction to it.
>
>
>
> --- In , liz williams wrote:
> >
> > That's very interesting.    Changing their minds are they?  Hmmm
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Hilary Jones
> > To: ""
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 21:37
> > Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> >
> >  
> > Eileen, Liz,
> >  
> > You know sometimes  suffering comes with a bonus. Starkey's programme wasn't a rehash of his bit on the the 'Three Brutal Brothers' in Monarchy - it was longer and much more detailed. Whilst he can't get his head round Richard he was actually sympathetic to ...Clarence, and he was very hard on the failure of H7. And Robinson, whilst bringing in Anne Sutton, the Society, Keith Dockray and Pollard concluded he could have murdered his nephews but only because he'd discovered E4 was illegitimate (in came Michael Jones). Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H
>

Hilary Jones wrote:
>
> Off topic, but can someone tell me why when I reply from my home email (rather than the forum website) I get all these funny numbers and condensed spellings in the posts. I'm sure it's been asked a thousand times, so many apologies.

Carol responds:

Yahoo can't read curly quotes (so-called smart quotes) or curly apostrophes. I suspect that it can't read em dashes, either. I would stick with plain Times New Roman with no italics or fancy formatting. You could also try clicking View in your browser and making sure that character encoding is set on Western rather than Unicode. If none of that works, I don't know what to suggest other than posting from the website.

Carol

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember (Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up there, too.

Carol

When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.

Karen

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
To: <>
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight







Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
(Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
there, too.

Carol

You are not the only one! 



________________________________
From: Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 
When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.

Karen

From: justcarol67 justcarol67@...>
Reply-To: >
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
To: >
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
(Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
there, too.

Carol

Many thanks for this info, Jac, it's getting so exciting now - a Ricardian's Paradise!  Everyone at the nursing home where I work will be watching, this is Richard's big chance. I do hope it is all positive.
 
Can't wait to see the facial construction, whoever would have though tthis would be happening??!!
 
Love Mary

--- On Sat, 2/2/13, jacqui <jacqui@...> wrote:


From: jacqui <jacqui@...>
Subject: media interviews Sun/Mon
To:
Date: Saturday, 2 February, 2013, 22:35



 



Evening All!!

Here is a schedule of media interviews that will be taking place over
Sunday 3rd & Monday 4th February.

cheers

Jac

******************

SCHEDULE OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS

WENDY MOORHEN
Wendy will be giving a live interview with Radio 5 Live around 11.55am
tomorrow Sunday 3rd February

******

PHIL STONE
Phil is giving a series of interviews on Monday 4th February

BBC Radio Northants Monday 4th Breakfast and Tea time
programmes - recorded in Fotheringhay

BBC Radio Wales Monday 4th Live - between 11.00 to 11.30
BBC Radio Merseyside Monday 4th
BBC Radio York Monday 4th
BBC Radio Tees Monday 4th

BBC Radio 2 Monday 4th timing not confirmed

CNN television Monday 4th should appear on their website
some time during the day - recorded at the Tower!

Phil is also doing a podcast for the BBC which
will go out on Friday, 8th February

************

ANNETTE CARSON

Annette will be talking to

BBC Radio Lancashire on the morning of Monday 4 February at
about 07.40

BBC Radio Northern Ireland at some time before 09.00) on the same
morning, details to be confirmed tomorrow.

PHILIPPA LANGLEY

Philippa Langley will be at the site of the dig in Leicester from about
06.45 Monday morning for BBC TV Network News, Midlands Bureau,
primarily for a programme called BBC Breakfast TV, which
probably is a Midlands Region
slot, not necessarily carried by other regions. However, this may also
end up on early BBC TV news coverage in other areas.

It might be a good idea to monitor the BBC News
website from an early hour.

******

Hi, Jacqui!

Thanks so much for posting this! It is exciting! I was sure, after what I
had read many years ago that Richard's remains were no more. What a
wonderful time to be a Ricardian!



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of jacqui
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:36 PM
To:
Subject: media interviews Sun/Mon





Evening All!!

Here is a schedule of media interviews that will be taking place over
Sunday 3rd & Monday 4th February.

cheers

Jac

******************

SCHEDULE OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS

WENDY MOORHEN
Wendy will be giving a live interview with Radio 5 Live around 11.55am
tomorrow Sunday 3rd February

******

PHIL STONE
Phil is giving a series of interviews on Monday 4th February

BBC Radio Northants Monday 4th Breakfast and Tea time
programmes - recorded in Fotheringhay

BBC Radio Wales Monday 4th Live - between 11.00 to 11.30
BBC Radio Merseyside Monday 4th
BBC Radio York Monday 4th
BBC Radio Tees Monday 4th

BBC Radio 2 Monday 4th timing not confirmed

CNN television Monday 4th should appear on their website
some time during the day - recorded at the Tower!

Phil is also doing a podcast for the BBC which
will go out on Friday, 8th February

************

ANNETTE CARSON

Annette will be talking to

BBC Radio Lancashire on the morning of Monday 4 February at
about 07.40

BBC Radio Northern Ireland at some time before 09.00) on the same
morning, details to be confirmed tomorrow.

PHILIPPA LANGLEY

Philippa Langley will be at the site of the dig in Leicester from about
06.45 Monday morning for BBC TV Network News, Midlands Bureau,
primarily for a programme called BBC Breakfast TV, which
probably is a Midlands Region
slot, not necessarily carried by other regions. However, this may also
end up on early BBC TV news coverage in other areas.

It might be a good idea to monitor the BBC News
website from an early hour.

******

I've always wondered why he is so anti-Richard.  Do you think he was Morton in a past life?



________________________________
From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 6:01
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
You are not the only one! 

________________________________
From: Karen Clark mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 
When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.

Karen

From: justcarol67 mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
Reply-To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
(Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
there, too.

Carol

I just saw this
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272653/Human-remains-Leicester-car-park-DO-belong-Richard-III-scientists-prepare-reveal-results-DNA-testing.html#axzz2Jkvr92hJ
 
Okay I know it's only the DM but it does have a big circulation and they are saying  "the skeleton's scoliosis  severe curvature of the spine  ties in with the famous description by Shakespeare and others of the monarch as a hunchback".  Honestly it drives me nuts!
 
I have tried to comment but the comments appear to be disabled. 
 


________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 12:14
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
I've always wondered why he is so anti-Richard.  Do you think he was Morton in a past life?

________________________________
From: Dorothea Preis mailto:dorotheapreis%40yahoo.com.au>
To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 6:01
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
You are not the only one! 

________________________________
From: Karen Clark mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.

Karen

From: justcarol67 mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
Reply-To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
(Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
there, too.

Carol

You know, actually, I think it's because he's out of his comfort zone with Richard. I agree he was dreadful in the trial (saw the original) but his TV performances have improved a lot since then. He does bring a gravitas and 'talks to the screen' quite well, unlike TR who runs around like an important squirrel (I winced last night when he was handling R's books without gloves).
On reflection, what was interesting when S was talking of Clarence and said, as heir until 1470, he must have felt like Mary and Elizabeth when they were 'in the wings', he seemed on home ground; something he could relate to. He actually didn't seem to 'know' Richard well enough at all, that is until he died a very brave death, so he avoided him. You would have thought he was the bachelor brother. Once we were back to H7 he did a great 'disembowelling' job and an attack on MB as the 'mother-in-law from hell'.
Robinson on the other hand was at pains to say that Richard was a good guy and all kings took out the opposition (both had the Princes in the urn and murdered by Richard )- and R was the only one in the Tower on the night of HVI's death (there was a lot of More). However when TR started on Clarence choosing being suspended upside down in a vat of wine over hanging drawing and quartering it got more than silly. I still think both are keeping their careers open for a bit or revisionism.
 
Hilary 


________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 12:14
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


 

I've always wondered why he is so anti-Richard.  Do you think he was Morton in a past life?

________________________________
From: Dorothea Preis mailto:dorotheapreis%40yahoo.com.au>
To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 6:01
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
You are not the only one! 

________________________________
From: Karen Clark mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 
When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.

Karen

From: justcarol67 mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
Reply-To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
(Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
there, too.

Carol

Hi Elaine,
 
I have the original version of the Monarchy programme, but there was more in this (perhaps they were cuts from the original now put back in?). I don't think they are consciously into the dark arts but they are making programmes for people like my engineer husband, who wouldn't have know whether the WOTR was in 1450 or 1650 and who want a brief, easy to digest explanation. I agree Robinson was not new - it was revamped after the time of the Rouen discovery, TR said that. Perhaps we should rejoice that R is at last making the headlines - and that they are not totally beyond 'conversion'. I think the biggest contribution we can make is pressing for re-examination of the bones in the urn. They seem to be starting to concede on everthing else  Hilary


________________________________
From: ellrosa1452 <kathryn198@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 0:18
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 

Hi
This is a reply to Hilary and Wednesday

Neither program was new; just a repeat. I think the Robinson program had a date of MMII. It was apparent that it was not new as it retold the tale of the despoiling of the monastery and the removal of Richard's remains, which does not seem to have been the case. I am wording that extremely cautiously as I hope will be confirmed on Monday. What Starkey and Robinson are guilty of is of course, mugging to the camera and playing for effect thereby not allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Furthermore, the omissions and insinuations together with the lack of dates to back up and provide a chronological timeline of events allowed Starkey in particular, and Robinson, the opportunity to practise their own versions of the dark arts of the propagandist. The omission of a clear timeline with substantiated facts and dates appeared deliberate in order to fudge issues and to reinterpret information according to the inclinations of the presenters as in both
programs Starkey and Robinson are clearly more than just presenters.
Elaine

--- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>
> I'll bet you anything that, like Stanley, they're leaving room to leap to either/every side of the fence after they've considered Monday's documentary and the public's reaction to it.
>
>
>
> --- In , liz williams wrote:
> >
> > That's very interesting.    Changing their minds are they?  Hmmm
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Hilary Jones
> > To: ""
> > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 21:37
> > Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
> >
> >  
> > Eileen, Liz,
> >  
> > You know sometimes  suffering comes with a bonus. Starkey's programme wasn't a rehash of his bit on the the 'Three Brutal Brothers' in Monarchy - it was longer and much more detailed. Whilst he can't get his head round Richard he was actually sympathetic to ...Clarence, and he was very hard on the failure of H7. And Robinson, whilst bringing in Anne Sutton, the Society, Keith Dockray and Pollard concluded he could have murdered his nephews but only because he'd discovered E4 was illegitimate (in came Michael Jones). Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H
>

Ta Carol, thought it was me



________________________________
From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 3:40
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

 

Hilary Jones wrote:
>
> Off topic, but can someone tell me why when I reply from my home email (rather than the forum website) I get all these funny numbers and condensed spellings in the posts. I'm sure it's been asked a thousand times, so many apologies.

Carol responds:

Yahoo can't read curly quotes (so-called smart quotes) or curly apostrophes. I suspect that it can't read em dashes, either. I would stick with plain Times New Roman with no italics or fancy formatting. You could also try clicking View in your browser and making sure that character encoding is set on Western rather than Unicode. If none of that works, I don't know what to suggest other than posting from the website.

Carol

This may surprise many but, having met Starkey, he is very polite and knowledgeable about his period. He answered my question about online sources.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hilary Jones
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight



You know, actually, I think it's because he's out of his comfort zone with Richard. I agree he was dreadful in the trial (saw the original) but his TV performances have improved a lot since then. He does bring a gravitas and 'talks to the screen' quite well, unlike TR who runs around like an important squirrel (I winced last night when he was handling R's books without gloves).
On reflection, what was interesting when S was talking of Clarence and said, as heir until 1470, he must have felt like Mary and Elizabeth when they were 'in the wings', he seemed on home ground; something he could relate to. He actually didn't seem to 'know' Richard well enough at all, that is until he died a very brave death, so he avoided him. You would have thought he was the bachelor brother. Once we were back to H7 he did a great 'disembowelling' job and an attack on MB as the 'mother-in-law from hell'.
Robinson on the other hand was at pains to say that Richard was a good guy and all kings took out the opposition (both had the Princes in the urn and murdered by Richard )- and R was the only one in the Tower on the night of HVI's death (there was a lot of More). However when TR started on Clarence choosing being suspended upside down in a vat of wine over hanging drawing and quartering it got more than silly. I still think both are keeping their careers open for a bit or revisionism.

Hilary


________________________________
From: liz williams ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" >
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 12:14
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight




I've always wondered why he is so anti-Richard. Do you think he was Morton in a past life?

________________________________
From: Dorothea Preis mailto:dorotheapreis%40yahoo.com.au>
To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 6:01
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


You are not the only one!

________________________________
From: Karen Clark mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight


When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.

Karen

From: justcarol67 mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
Reply-To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
(Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
there, too.

Carol

Right.......turning a nice pale blue over here!!L

On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:02 AM, "Dorothea Preis" <dorotheapreis@...<mailto:dorotheapreis@...>> wrote:



You are not the only one!

________________________________
From: Karen Clark Ragged_staff@...<mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com>>
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight



When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.

Karen

From: justcarol67 justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>>
Reply-To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight

Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!

Carol responds:

Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
(Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
there, too.

Carol

Yes thank you. So by breakfast in the US, the news will be out!!

On Feb 3, 2013, at 5:05 AM, "Johanne Tournier" <jltournier60@...<mailto:jltournier60@...>> wrote:



Hi, Jacqui!

Thanks so much for posting this! It is exciting! I was sure, after what I
had read many years ago that Richard's remains were no more. What a
wonderful time to be a Ricardian!

Loyaulte me lie,

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...<mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>

or jltournier@...<mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of jacqui
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:36 PM
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: media interviews Sun/Mon

Evening All!!

Here is a schedule of media interviews that will be taking place over
Sunday 3rd & Monday 4th February.

cheers

Jac

******************

SCHEDULE OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS

WENDY MOORHEN
Wendy will be giving a live interview with Radio 5 Live around 11.55am
tomorrow Sunday 3rd February

******

PHIL STONE
Phil is giving a series of interviews on Monday 4th February

BBC Radio Northants Monday 4th Breakfast and Tea time
programmes - recorded in Fotheringhay

BBC Radio Wales Monday 4th Live - between 11.00 to 11.30
BBC Radio Merseyside Monday 4th
BBC Radio York Monday 4th
BBC Radio Tees Monday 4th

BBC Radio 2 Monday 4th timing not confirmed

CNN television Monday 4th should appear on their website
some time during the day - recorded at the Tower!

Phil is also doing a podcast for the BBC which
will go out on Friday, 8th February

************

ANNETTE CARSON

Annette will be talking to

BBC Radio Lancashire on the morning of Monday 4 February at
about 07.40

BBC Radio Northern Ireland at some time before 09.00) on the same
morning, details to be confirmed tomorrow.

PHILIPPA LANGLEY

Philippa Langley will be at the site of the dig in Leicester from about
06.45 Monday morning for BBC TV Network News, Midlands Bureau,
primarily for a programme called BBC Breakfast TV, which
probably is a Midlands Region
slot, not necessarily carried by other regions. However, this may also
end up on early BBC TV news coverage in other areas.

It might be a good idea to monitor the BBC News
website from an early hour.

******

I think so Pamela - 10am GMT is the time of the press conference.
Duh!!! - Forgot to say all the times that I give are GMT.!

Jac



In message <956C85F5-D6D6-49EB-B2D4-DA1E5729E138@...>, Pamela Bain
<pbain@...> writes
>Yes thank you. So by breakfast in the US, the news will be out!!
>
>On Feb 3, 2013, at 5:05 AM, "Johanne Tournier" <jltournier60@hotma
>il.com<mailto:jltournier60@...>> wrote:
>
>
>
>Hi, Jacqui!
>
>Thanks so much for posting this! It is exciting! I was sure, after what I
>had read many years ago that Richard's remains were no more. What a
>wonderful time to be a Ricardian!
>
>Loyaulte me lie,
>
>Johanne
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Johanne L. Tournier
>
>Email - jltournier60@...<mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
>
>or jltournier@...<mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
>
>"With God, all things are possible."
>
>- Jesus of Nazareth
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>From: <mailto:richardiiisoci
>etyforum%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:<mailto:richardiiisoc
>ietyforum%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of jacqui
>Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:36 PM
>To: <mailto:richardiiisociety
>forum%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: media interviews Sun/Mon
>
>Evening All!!
>
>Here is a schedule of media interviews that will be taking place over
>Sunday 3rd & Monday 4th February.
>
>cheers
>
>Jac
>
>******************
>
>SCHEDULE OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS
>
>WENDY MOORHEN
>Wendy will be giving a live interview with Radio 5 Live around 11.55am
>tomorrow Sunday 3rd February
>
>******
>
>PHIL STONE
>Phil is giving a series of interviews on Monday 4th February
>
>BBC Radio Northants Monday 4th Breakfast and Tea time
>programmes - recorded in Fotheringhay
>
>BBC Radio Wales Monday 4th Live - between 11.00 to 11.30
>BBC Radio Merseyside Monday 4th
>BBC Radio York Monday 4th
>BBC Radio Tees Monday 4th
>
>BBC Radio 2 Monday 4th timing not confirmed
>
>CNN television Monday 4th should appear on their website
>some time during the day - recorded at the Tower!
>
>Phil is also doing a podcast for the BBC which
>will go out on Friday, 8th February
>
>************
>
>ANNETTE CARSON
>
>Annette will be talking to
>
>BBC Radio Lancashire on the morning of Monday 4 February at
>about 07.40
>
>BBC Radio Northern Ireland at some time before 09.00) on the same
>morning, details to be confirmed tomorrow.
>
>PHILIPPA LANGLEY
>
>Philippa Langley will be at the site of the dig in Leicester from about
>06.45 Monday morning for BBC TV Network News, Midlands Bureau,
>primarily for a programme called BBC Breakfast TV, which
>probably is a Midlands Region
>slot, not necessarily carried by other regions. However, this may also
>end up on early BBC TV news coverage in other areas.
>
>It might be a good idea to monitor the BBC News
>website from an early hour.
>
>******
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

--

Elizabeth 1 wasn't he? Or is the rumour of him dressing up like her of an evening not true? :-) :-)
Paul


Richard Liveth Yet!



On 3 Feb 2013, at 12:14, liz williams wrote:

> I've always wondered why he is so anti-Richard. Do you think he was Morton in a past life?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
> To: "" <>
> Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 6:01
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>
> You are not the only one!
>
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Clark mailto:Ragged_staff%40bigpond.com>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
>
>
> When I saw his performance on the 'Trial', I was surprised he went on to
> have any kind of tv career at all. I do know that Tudor scholars (and
> aficionados) rate him highly, but he just irritates me beyond belief.
>
> Karen
>
> From: justcarol67 mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:51:27 -0000
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
>
> Pamela Bain wrote:
>>
>> Every time you mention Starkey, I think of Ringo Starr (Richard Starkey) and I
> hear a Beatles tune in the background. Sorry, of topic AGAIN!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Have you seen "The Trial of Richard III" on You Tube? If you watch him in
> that, you'll never think of Ringo in connection with him again. Me, I think
> of a frightened little mouse with twitching whiskers and a squeaky voice. Or
> maybe a cartoon character from my childhood whose name I can't remember
> (Maybe he didn't have one) whose wispy mustache twitched back and forth. He
> must be in his seventies by now. But, then, I guess Ringo is getting up
> there, too.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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I watched Starkey in the mock trial and thought his attitude extremely unprofessional. I then tried to watch one of his Monarchy episodes and ran away within fifteen minutes. His delivery puts me off as much as his unrepentant axe-grinding -- and why he should seem to absolutely loathe Richard is something I don't understand. What's he afraid of? Must Richard be painted solid black so his beloved Tudors can be preserved in alabaster?

Robinson...I watched his old "mystery of the princes" episode and thought his setup was clean (1/3 of the show). He presented the facts and proved he/his writers could do so. But when he got to R3's s behavior once E4 died, the facts were demolished as you've outlined below. I wouldn't mind his chewing the scenery if he didn't deliberately go off with the fairies as well.

~Weds


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> Neither program was new; just a repeat. I think the Robinson program had a date of MMII. It was apparent that it was not new as it retold the tale of the despoiling of the monastery and the removal of Richard's remains, which does not seem to have been the case. I am wording that extremely cautiously as I hope will be confirmed on Monday. What Starkey and Robinson are guilty of is of course, mugging to the camera and playing for effect thereby not allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Furthermore, the omissions and insinuations together with the lack of dates to back up and provide a chronological timeline of events allowed Starkey in particular, and Robinson, the opportunity to practise their own versions of the dark arts of the propagandist. The omission of a clear timeline with substantiated facts and dates appeared deliberate in order to fudge issues and to reinterpret information according to the inclinations of the presenters as in both programs Starkey and Robinson are clearly more than just presenters.
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> > I'll bet you anything that, like Stanley, they're leaving room to leap to either/every side of the fence after they've considered Monday's documentary and the public's reaction to it.
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> > --- In , liz williams wrote:
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> > > That's very interesting.    Changing their minds are they?  Hmmm
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> > > From: Hilary Jones
> > > To: ""
> > > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 21:37
> > > Subject: Re: The R3 Evening on More tonight
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> > > Eileen, Liz,
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> > > You know sometimes  suffering comes with a bonus. Starkey's programme wasn't a rehash of his bit on the the 'Three Brutal Brothers' in Monarchy - it was longer and much more detailed. Whilst he can't get his head round Richard he was actually sympathetic to ...Clarence, and he was very hard on the failure of H7. And Robinson, whilst bringing in Anne Sutton, the Society, Keith Dockray and Pollard concluded he could have murdered his nephews but only because he'd discovered E4 was illegitimate (in came Michael Jones). Dare I guess that they might be swinging, at least 20 degrees - and could this possibly be because it is indeed 'him' and they have to re-conder their television careers?  I am cautiously optimistic... H
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