"Fans"

Someone online has just posed the question "after the press conference are the king's fans in the Richard III Society set up to re-evaluate the reputation of a reviled monarch" They just don't get it do they? That is what Ricardians have been doing for years. After tomorrow I think traditionalists will be the ones doing the re-evaluations.
Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!

Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right. If anything it is going to seal R's fame as a twisted monster even more....... I truly hope we have people out there to counter all the allegations that I see coming R's way.....:(

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> Someone online has just posed the question "after the press conference are the king's fans in the Richard III Society set up to re-evaluate the reputation of a reviled monarch" They just don't get it do they? That is what Ricardians have been doing for years. After tomorrow I think traditionalists will be the ones doing the re-evaluations.
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
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>

I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
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Eileen,
I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......




________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: "Fans"


 
I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
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Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
>  
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
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Amen to that!




________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: "Fans"


 
Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
>  
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
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Like Eileen, I feel very priviledged to be alive at this point - what are the chances in getting on for 600 years! Anything that prompts more interest is good - you won't change everyone. After all I bet most of us watch programmes on H8 from time to time, however much we dislke him. At that point I shall light the touchpaper and retire!  Cheers Hilary  (PS Paul on the Foundation site they're saying that Richard A has agreed to star in Philippa's film - sorry!!)



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 17:57
Subject: Re: "Fans"


 

Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
>  
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
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YAY, Eileen!



Our Richard deserves his moment in time!



I'm glad you (and I, and all Ricardians) are here to witness it!



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne

From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of EileenB
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:57 PM
To:
Subject: Re: "Fans"





Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on
his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at
this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am
bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
lifetime....Eileen

Oh, we'll said Eileen, and I had not thought of that!

On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:57 AM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb@...>> wrote:



Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
> Â
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
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Ish it's, my mother has scoliosis. It is not an uncommon malady, and I think it will actually make Richard all the more human, more sympathetic and understandable. Think of medicine, or what can loosely be called that, back in those days. It is remarkable that he was able to all that he did, with no treatment, and constant tormenting. Had he not been a "royal" he would probably have been abandoned and left to die.
I noticed in the York family tree, that in later generations, some people are named, and then it says, "and many other children"! Those were hard times indeed.

On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "Ishita Bandyo" <bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi@...>> wrote:



Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right. If anything it is going to seal R's fame as a twisted monster even more....... I truly hope we have people out there to counter all the allegations that I see coming R's way.....:(

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...<mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>> wrote:

> Someone online has just posed the question "after the press conference are the king's fans in the Richard III Society set up to re-evaluate the reputation of a reviled monarch" They just don't get it do they? That is what Ricardians have been doing for years. After tomorrow I think traditionalists will be the ones doing the re-evaluations.
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>

Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative thoughts...
It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar... another
myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all remain
positive! Please!!



On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
> for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on
> his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
> get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So
> at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
> world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am
> bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> lifetime....Eileen
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Eileen,
> > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> >
> >
> > ý
> > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
> all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he
> did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard
> died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then
> good luck to them...Eileen
> >
> > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
> traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

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Well I think the clue is in"facial reconstruction"! Go figure...:0)

--- In , "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" wrote:
>
> Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
> Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative thoughts...
> It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar... another
> myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all remain
> positive! Please!!
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
> > for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on
> > his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
> > get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> > believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So
> > at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
> > world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am
> > bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> > lifetime....Eileen
> >
> > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Eileen,
> > > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
> > all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he
> > did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard
> > died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> > 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> > maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then
> > good luck to them...Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
> > traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>
>
>
>
>

LOL! Indeed!!
Sooooo looking forward to the announcements...

On 3 February 2013 14:38, EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Well I think the clue is in"facial reconstruction"! Go figure...:0)
>
> --- In , "Lisa @ The Antiques
> Boutique" wrote:
> >
> > Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
> > Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative
> thoughts...
> > It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar... another
> > myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all remain
> > positive! Please!!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples
> minds...But
> > > for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can
> rain on
> > > his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long
> last
> > > get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> > > believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white
> rose...So
> > > at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
> > > world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy
> I am
> > > bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> > > lifetime....Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Eileen,
> > > > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: EileenB
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ý
> > > > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
> > > all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove
> he
> > > did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that
> Richard
> > > died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> > > 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> > > maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter
> then
> > > good luck to them...Eileen
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R?
> The
> > > traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



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Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

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Lisa, I do not particularly like being negative. But if you visit all the blogs and forums out there, you will notice a common trend of " yay, the Tudors were right" mentality......PR has damaged R for all eternity. My point is that we have to ready to counter it and not just depend upon his body being found!




________________________________
From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: "Fans"

Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative thoughts...
It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar... another
myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all remain
positive! Please!!



On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
> for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on
> his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
> get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So
> at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
> world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am
> bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> lifetime....Eileen
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Eileen,
> > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
> all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he
> did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard
> died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then
> good luck to them...Eileen
> >
> > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
> traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
>



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Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

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Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....
Karen

-----Original Message-----

From: EileenB
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: "Fans"

Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
> Â
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

As Eileen says you are never going to change some people's minds... thats
just the way of the world. But also remember that 'we' the R3 society have
in our arsenal a Professor, Dr's & Well Respected Historians & Authors who
are 'doing their bit' to put the true story of Richard across - I've just
popped the list of schedule of media interviews on the r3.org website, in
case you missed earlier messages. I've just spoken to a friend in the UK
who has seen a program by Tony Robinson (dont groan) & she said it was very
positive in Richards favour... & every time they show the trailer for the
Chanel 4 program they give a little bit more away - so its looking good so
far as I can see - its an exciting time - enjoy it. I'm having chemo
tomorrow but I'm just focused on the potential news... & am so happy!! :-)
You enjoy it too & try to ignore those who will never change...

Lisa

On 3 February 2013 14:51, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Lisa, I do not particularly like being negative. But if you visit all the
> blogs and forums out there, you will notice a common trend of " yay, the
> Tudors were right" mentality......PR has damaged R for all eternity. My
> point is that we have to ready to counter it and not just depend upon his
> body being found!
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" lisa.holtjones@...>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
> Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
> Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative thoughts...
> It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar... another
> myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all remain
> positive! Please!!
>
> On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
> > for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain
> on
> > his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
> > get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> > believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So
> > at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
> > world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I
> am
> > bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> > lifetime....Eileen
> >
> > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Eileen,
> > > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> > >
> > >
> > > ý
> > > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
> > all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he
> > did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard
> > died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> > 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> > maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then
> > good luck to them...Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
> > traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>



--
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The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

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I think most of us have 600 years of positive inside us. And Ishito, I am sorry, spell check does not like my typing and it mangled your name!

On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:30 PM, "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" <lisa.holtjones@...> wrote:

> Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
> Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative thoughts...
> It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar... another
> myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all remain
> positive! Please!!
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
>> for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on
>> his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
>> get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
>> believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So
>> at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
>> world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am
>> bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
>> lifetime....Eileen
>>
>> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>
>>> Eileen,
>>> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: EileenB
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>>>
>>>
>>> Â
>>> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
>> all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he
>> did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard
>> died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
>> 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
>> maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then
>> good luck to them...Eileen
>>>
>>> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
>> traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

You know, I'm not really excited.  I'm sure I will be tomorrow when I actually watch the press conference but I am honestly SO convinced that it is Richard that I don't feel nervous at all.  I was jumping up and down for joy when they found the body

 but feel really calm about it all.
 
It just can't be anyone but him and DNA or not, I think there is more than enough evidence to support the identification.
 
 

________________________________
From: Karen Raynor <karenraynor@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:16
Subject: Re: "Fans"

 
Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....
Karen

-----Original Message-----

From: EileenB
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMT
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: "Fans"

Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
> Â
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Just remember you're going to see them drilling into the bones, extracting teeth and so on. This could be quite upsetting for people who've allowed themselves to get a little close to their idea of what the man was really like.
In a way, I almost dread Richard going more "mainstream" - I don't want to see his period become as familiar to people as the Tudors.


________________________________
From: Karen Raynor <karenraynor@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:16
Subject: Re: "Fans"


 
Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....
Karen

-----Original Message-----

From: EileenB
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: "Fans"

Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
> Â
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Sent that too soon. What I was also going to say was, yes I too am thrilled to bits at the thought that finally he will get the burial and - hopefully at least some of - the recognition he deserves.
 
As for the traditionalists, they can indeed - to quote Eileen's marvellous phrase!  go chew on a brick.


________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:38
Subject: Re: "Fans"

You know, I'm not really excited.  I'm sure I will be tomorrow when I actually watch the press conference but I am honestly SO convinced that it is Richard that I don't feel nervous at all.  I was jumping up and down for joy when they found the body

 but feel really calm about it all.

It just can't be anyone but him and DNA or not, I think there is more than enough evidence to support the identification.

 

________________________________
From: Karen Raynor <karenraynor@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:16
Subject: Re: "Fans"

 
Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....Karen-----Original Message-----From: EileenBSent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMTTo: mailto:%40yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: "Fans"Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:>> Eileen,> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves
better......>>>>> ________________________________> From: EileenB> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM> Subject: Re: "Fans">>> Â> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:> >> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.> > > > > >> > >> >> >>
> > >>>>>> >

Agreed!

On 3 February 2013 15:38, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> You know, I'm not really excited. I'm sure I will be tomorrow when I
> actually watch the press conference but I am honestly SO convinced that it
> is Richard that I don't feel nervous at all. I was jumping up and down for
> joy when they found the body
>
> but feel really calm about it all.
>
> It just can't be anyone but him and DNA or not, I think there is more than
> enough evidence to support the identification.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Raynor karenraynor@...>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:16
>
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
> Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: EileenB
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMT
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
> Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
> for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on
> his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
> get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So
> at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
> world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am
> bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> lifetime....Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo
> wrote:
> >
> > Eileen,
> > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> >
> >
> > ý
> > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
> all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he
> did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard
> died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then
> good luck to them...Eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
> traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



--
Lisa
The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

www.Antiques-Boutique.com <http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
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Lisa...good luck with the chemo......Eileen

--- In , "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" wrote:
>
> As Eileen says you are never going to change some people's minds... thats
> just the way of the world. But also remember that 'we' the R3 society have
> in our arsenal a Professor, Dr's & Well Respected Historians & Authors who
> are 'doing their bit' to put the true story of Richard across - I've just
> popped the list of schedule of media interviews on the r3.org website, in
> case you missed earlier messages. I've just spoken to a friend in the UK
> who has seen a program by Tony Robinson (dont groan) & she said it was very
> positive in Richards favour... & every time they show the trailer for the
> Chanel 4 program they give a little bit more away - so its looking good so
> far as I can see - its an exciting time - enjoy it. I'm having chemo
> tomorrow but I'm just focused on the potential news... & am so happy!! :-)
> You enjoy it too & try to ignore those who will never change...
>
> Lisa
>
> On 3 February 2013 14:51, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Lisa, I do not particularly like being negative. But if you visit all the
> > blogs and forums out there, you will notice a common trend of " yay, the
> > Tudors were right" mentality......PR has damaged R for all eternity. My
> > point is that we have to ready to counter it and not just depend upon his
> > body being found!
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" lisa.holtjones@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> >
> > Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
> > Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative thoughts...
> > It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar... another
> > myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all remain
> > positive! Please!!
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
> > > for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain
> > on
> > > his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
> > > get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> > > believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So
> > > at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
> > > world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I
> > am
> > > bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> > > lifetime....Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Eileen,
> > > > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: EileenB
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at
> > > all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he
> > > did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard
> > > died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> > > 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> > > maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then
> > > good luck to them...Eileen
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
> > > traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>
>
>
>
>

I do - I want everyone to know who these amazing people were.


________________________________
From: david rayner <theblackprussian@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:40
Subject: Re: "Fans"

 
Just remember you're going to see them drilling into the bones, extracting teeth and so on. This could be quite upsetting for people who've allowed themselves to get a little close to their idea of what the man was really like.
In a way, I almost dread Richard going more "mainstream" - I don't want to see his period become as familiar to people as the Tudors.

________________________________
From: Karen Raynor mailto:karenraynor%40hotmail.co.uk>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:16
Subject: Re: "Fans"


 
Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....
Karen

-----Original Message-----

From: EileenB
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMT
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: "Fans"

Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
> Â
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Cheers! - However there is summat far more interesting going on... :-P

On 3 February 2013 16:17, EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Lisa...good luck with the chemo......Eileen
>
>
> --- In , "Lisa @ The Antiques
> Boutique" wrote:
> >
> > As Eileen says you are never going to change some people's minds... thats
> > just the way of the world. But also remember that 'we' the R3 society
> have
> > in our arsenal a Professor, Dr's & Well Respected Historians & Authors
> who
> > are 'doing their bit' to put the true story of Richard across - I've just
> > popped the list of schedule of media interviews on the r3.org website,
> in
> > case you missed earlier messages. I've just spoken to a friend in the UK
> > who has seen a program by Tony Robinson (dont groan) & she said it was
> very
> > positive in Richards favour... & every time they show the trailer for the
> > Chanel 4 program they give a little bit more away - so its looking good
> so
> > far as I can see - its an exciting time - enjoy it. I'm having chemo
> > tomorrow but I'm just focused on the potential news... & am so happy!!
> :-)
> > You enjoy it too & try to ignore those who will never change...
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 14:51, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Lisa, I do not particularly like being negative. But if you visit all
> the
> > > blogs and forums out there, you will notice a common trend of " yay,
> the
> > > Tudors were right" mentality......PR has damaged R for all eternity. My
> > > point is that we have to ready to counter it and not just depend upon
> his
> > > body being found!
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique" lisa.holtjones@...>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:30 PM
>
> > > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> > >
> > > Well Said Eileen - I'm tired of seeing negative thoughts on this forum.
> > > Lets wait & see what ACTUALLY happens before bemoaning negative
> thoughts...
> > > It should also prove that his body wasn't thrown into the Soar...
> another
> > > myth busted, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. lets all
> remain
> > > positive! Please!!
> > >
> > > On 3 February 2013 13:57, EileenB cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples
> minds...But
> > > > for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can
> rain
> > > on
> > > > his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long
> last
> > > > get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
> > > > believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white
> rose...So
> > > > at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of
> this
> > > > world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so
> happy I
> > > am
> > > > bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
> > > > lifetime....Eileen
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Eileen,
> > > > > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves
> better......
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: EileenB
> > > > > To:
>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ý
> > > > > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will
> at
> > > > all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will
> prove he
> > > > did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that
> Richard
> > > > died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the
> > > > 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have
> > > > maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter
> then
> > > > good luck to them...Eileen
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Ishita Bandyo
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R?
> The
> > > > traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lisa
> > > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> > >
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Eileen: your post touched me very much. Until proven otherwise, Richard will always be a hero to me. Wherever he is buried, I long for the day when I can bring a bouquet of white roses to his final burial site. I hope Dr. Starkey is there when I do it, so I can hit him with the bouquet before I place them on the King's grave! Maire.

--- In , david rayner wrote:
>
> Just remember you're going to see them drilling into the bones, extracting teeth and so on. This could be quite upsetting for people who've allowed themselves to get a little close to their idea of what the man was really like.
> In a way, I almost dread Richard going more "mainstream" - I don't want to see his period become as familiar to people as the Tudors.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Raynor
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 19:16
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
>  
> Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: EileenB
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
> Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my lifetime....Eileen
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Eileen,
> > I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Fans"
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
> >
> > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I'm quite looking forward to it. But I don't quite have butterflies. :-D

Karen

From: Karen Raynor <karenraynor@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:16:07 +0000
To: <>
Subject: Re: "Fans"






Perfectly said. I'm so excited, I've got butterflies.....
Karen

-----Original Message-----

From: EileenB
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 17:57:24 GMT
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: "Fans"

Well Ishita...you are never ever going to change some peoples minds...But
for Ricardians everywhere...this is Richard's time...and no-one can rain on
his parade....He has in a way come home...and he is going to at long last
get a burial place suitable for him. At long last we who have always
believed in him are going to be able to visit and leave a white rose...So at
this moment in time I have no time for them...the Starkey's of this
world....They are so insignificant to me at this time....I am so happy I am
bursting...I never believed this would have happend and in my
lifetime....Eileen

--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Eileen,
> I hope to God you are right and I am wrong!! He deserves better......
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fans"
>
>
> Â
> I have to disagree with you on that Ishita...I dont think it will at all. It
will prove that he did not have a massive hump, it will prove he did not have a
withered arm....come to think of it..the fact that Richard died in battle should
prove that to a five year old. In any case the 'traditionalists' can go chew
on a brick for all I care...They have maligned Richard long enough and if that
is what melts their butter then good luck to them...Eileen
>
> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Paul, what is going to change even if the remains are that of R? The
traditionalist will seize on to scoliosis to prove themselves right.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>