Re: BBC News Skull picture

Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (

-----Original Message-----

From: Karen Raynor
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.

-----Original Message-----

From: Johanne Tournier
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
Johanne

-----Original Message-----

From: Karen Raynor
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......

-----Original Message-----

From: Johanne Tournier
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

Thanks, Lisa!
I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
Johanne

-----Original Message-----

From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

Hi Johanne
its
@uniofleicester <https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
& yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
store it on my PC - will let you know)

Looking forward to it all..

Lisa

On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi, Kate -
> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
>
> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
>
> TTFN (smile)
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: katewescombe
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> feed.
>
> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
>
> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
>
> To tomorrow.
>
> Kate
>
> --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> >
> > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>



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Here you are, you guys:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814


--- In , Karen Raynor wrote:
>
> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Thanks, Lisa!
> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Hi Johanne
> its
> @uniofleicester
> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>
> Looking forward to it all..
>
> Lisa
>
> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi, Kate -
> > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >
> > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >
> > TTFN (smile)
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: katewescombe
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > feed.
> >
> > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >
> > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >
> > To tomorrow.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us ‘in the know†!
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto:
> > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
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Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
Why did I feel so sad?!!!

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On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor <karenraynor@...> wrote:

> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Thanks, Lisa!
> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Hi Johanne
> its
> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>
> Looking forward to it all..
>
> Lisa
>
> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi, Kate -
> > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >
> > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >
> > TTFN (smile)
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: katewescombe
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > feed.
> >
> > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >
> > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >
> > To tomorrow.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto:
> > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
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Here it is 



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814



It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Karen Raynor
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:19 PM
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture





Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (

-----Original Message-----

From: Karen Raynor
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.

-----Original Message-----

From: Johanne Tournier
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
Johanne

-----Original Message-----

From: Karen Raynor
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......

-----Original Message-----

From: Johanne Tournier
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

Thanks, Lisa!
I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
Johanne

-----Original Message-----

From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?

Hi Johanne
its
@uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
& yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
store it on my PC - will let you know)

Looking forward to it all..

Lisa

On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi, Kate -
> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
>
> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
>
> TTFN (smile)
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: katewescombe
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> feed.
>
> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
>
> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
>
> To tomorrow.
>
> Kate
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , eileen bates wrote:
> >
> > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>

--
Lisa
The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329

www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
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Is body buried under car park Richard III?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/world/europe/richard-iii-search-announcement/index.html

Now on CNN

George

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On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor <karenraynor@...> wrote:

> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Thanks, Lisa!
> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Hi Johanne
> its
> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>
> Looking forward to it all..
>
> Lisa
>
> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi, Kate -
> > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >
> > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >
> > TTFN (smile)
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: katewescombe
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > feed.
> >
> > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >
> > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >
> > To tomorrow.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto:
> > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

All this and the Superbowl I am going cross eyed
G

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:30 PM, George Butterfield <gbutterf1@...> wrote:

> Is body buried under car park Richard III?
> http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/world/europe/richard-iii-search-announcement/index.html
>
> Now on CNN
>
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@...> wrote:
>
> > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Thanks, Lisa!
> > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Hi Johanne
> > its
> > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> >
> > Looking forward to it all..
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Kate -
> > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > >
> > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > >
> > > TTFN (smile)
> > > Johanne
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: katewescombe
> > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > feed.
> > >
> > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > >
> > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > >
> > > To tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Kate
> > >
> > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

I feel solemn and in awe.



Johanne



From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture





Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
Why did I feel so sad?!!!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@... <mailto:karenraynor%40hotmail.co.uk> > wrote:

> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Thanks, Lisa!
> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Hi Johanne
> its
> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>
> Looking forward to it all..
>
> Lisa
>
> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi, Kate -
> > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >
> > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >
> > TTFN (smile)
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: katewescombe
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > feed.
> >
> > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >
> > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >
> > To tomorrow.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307 <https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f> &type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I am in tears. I gotta stop sobbing and scaring my 5 year old daughter........
Poor poor man...........

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...> wrote:

> I feel solemn and in awe.
>
> Johanne
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:25 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>
> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@... > wrote:
>
> > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Thanks, Lisa!
> > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Hi Johanne
> > its
> > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> >
> > Looking forward to it all..
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... > wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Kate -
> > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > >
> > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > >
> > > TTFN (smile)
> > > Johanne
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: katewescombe
> > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > feed.
> > >
> > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > >
> > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > >
> > > To tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Kate
> > >
> > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f> &type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
Vickie

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:

> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@...> wrote:
>
> > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Thanks, Lisa!
> > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Hi Johanne
> > its
> > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> >
> > Looking forward to it all..
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Kate -
> > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > >
> > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > >
> > > TTFN (smile)
> > > Johanne
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: katewescombe
> > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > feed.
> > >
> > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > >
> > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > >
> > > To tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Kate
> > >
> > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â¬Üin the know⬠!
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I would say that the cracks under the right eye are more likely damage done after the burial, from the weight of earth pressing onto the skull. The skull is particularly fragile in that area and unearthed hominid skulls, including human burials, often show cracks around the nose and eye sockets.

It is interesting that this particular photo does not show either the top of the skull or the rear, where the weapon damage is visible.

If this is His Grace the King, the circumstances of his burial and the loss of his grave were just about ideal to preserve his remains.

--- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Here it is â€"
>
>
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
>
>
>
> It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Karen Raynor
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:19 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>
>
>
>
>
> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Thanks, Lisa!
> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Hi Johanne
> its
> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>
> Looking forward to it all..
>
> Lisa
>
> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi, Kate -
> > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >
> > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >
> > TTFN (smile)
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: katewescombe
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > feed.
> >
> > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >
> > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >
> > To tomorrow.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us ‘in the know†!
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto:
> > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The poss blow under the eye - I seemed to see a small rectangular puncture; that's why I was thinking poleax. From what we've seen of the state of George of Clarence and Isabel's remains and others, I've got to think that the state of preservation is remarkable.
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne

-----Original Message-----

From: mcjohn_wt_net
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 02:04:08 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture

I would say that the cracks under the right eye are more likely damage done after the burial, from the weight of earth pressing onto the skull. The skull is particularly fragile in that area and unearthed hominid skulls, including human burials, often show cracks around the nose and eye sockets.

It is interesting that this particular photo does not show either the top of the skull or the rear, where the weapon damage is visible.

If this is His Grace the King, the circumstances of his burial and the loss of his grave were just about ideal to preserve his remains.

--- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Here it is â¬"
>
>
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
>
>
>
> It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Karen Raynor
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:19 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>
>
>
>
>
> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Karen Raynor
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Johanne Tournier
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Thanks, Lisa!
> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>
> Hi Johanne
> its
> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>
> Looking forward to it all..
>
> Lisa
>
> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi, Kate -
> > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >
> > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >
> > TTFN (smile)
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: katewescombe
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > feed.
> >
> > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >
> > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >
> > To tomorrow.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us ââ¬ËSin the knowâ⬠!
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto:
> > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lisa
> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>
> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307 &type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

A friend and I made plans weeks ago to walk a labyrinth tomorrow. I guess now I know why.

After seeing the photo of his skull and how it's affected me, I think I'm going to wait until I get back to find out what you all say about the conference and the documentary. I have to be able to drive, not cry.

But dang, the man had a strong jaw.

~Weds

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> Why did I feel so sad?!!!

Oh, I didn't see that... hang on, I'll go take another look...

Yes, I see what you mean. My first guess would be that it isn't weapon damage; any such blow would probably have shattered the facial bones, and the [carefully blurred] video of Dr. Appleby handling the skull at the site in September convinced me that it was intact; she turned it over, and she wouldn't have done that if there were any chance of bone fragments falling loose.

You're absolutely right that this is exceptional, the state of preservation. Good goin', God! We sure do appreciate it!

--- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> The poss blow under the eye - I seemed to see a small rectangular puncture; that's why I was thinking poleax. From what we've seen of the state of George of Clarence and Isabel's remains and others, I've got to think that the state of preservation is remarkable.
> Loyaulte me lie,
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: mcjohn_wt_net
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 02:04:08 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>
> I would say that the cracks under the right eye are more likely damage done after the burial, from the weight of earth pressing onto the skull. The skull is particularly fragile in that area and unearthed hominid skulls, including human burials, often show cracks around the nose and eye sockets.
>
> It is interesting that this particular photo does not show either the top of the skull or the rear, where the weapon damage is visible.
>
> If this is His Grace the King, the circumstances of his burial and the loss of his grave were just about ideal to preserve his remains.
>
> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Here it is â€"
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> >
> >
> >
> > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
> >
> >
> >
> > Loyaulte me lie,
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@
> >
> > or jltournier@
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Karen Raynor
> > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:19 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Karen Raynor
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Thanks, Lisa!
> > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >
> > Hi Johanne
> > its
> > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> >
> > Looking forward to it all..
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@ > wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Kate -
> > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > >
> > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > >
> > > TTFN (smile)
> > > Johanne
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: katewescombe
> > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > feed.
> > >
> > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > >
> > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > >
> > > To tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Kate
> > >
> > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â€ËÅ"in the know†!
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lisa
> > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >
> > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307 &type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

All his portraits shows him with square jaws and strong nose...... At least the Tudor painters kept that part of his face true to fact......Whatever they might have done with the wrinkles.....

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:17 PM, "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:

> A friend and I made plans weeks ago to walk a labyrinth tomorrow. I guess now I know why.
>
> After seeing the photo of his skull and how it's affected me, I think I'm going to wait until I get back to find out what you all say about the conference and the documentary. I have to be able to drive, not cry.
>
> But dang, the man had a strong jaw.
>
> ~Weds
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> > Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>
>

My York ancestors also had that's traitor nose and strong jaw.......maybe they were among the many "and many other children"!
Listen, I am quite serious. At some point, I think it would be super if we could arrange a trip for us in the UA to visit the UK and see what we can of the land of R3!

On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" <bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi@...>> wrote:



All his portraits shows him with square jaws and strong nose...... At least the Tudor painters kept that part of his face true to fact......Whatever they might have done with the wrinkles.....

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:17 PM, "wednesday_mc" wednesday.mac@...<mailto:wednesday.mac%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> A friend and I made plans weeks ago to walk a labyrinth tomorrow. I guess now I know why.
>
> After seeing the photo of his skull and how it's affected me, I think I'm going to wait until I get back to find out what you all say about the conference and the documentary. I have to be able to drive, not cry.
>
> But dang, the man had a strong jaw.
>
> ~Weds
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> > Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>
>

In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.

What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?

~Weds

--- In , Vickie wrote:
>
> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> Vickie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> > Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> > Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > > Johanne
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Lisa!
> > > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > > Johanne
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > >
> > > Hi Johanne
> > > its
> > > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> > >
> > > Looking forward to it all..
> > >
> > > Lisa
> > >
> > > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Kate -
> > > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > > >
> > > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > > >
> > > > TTFN (smile)
> > > > Johanne
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: katewescombe
> > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > > feed.
> > > >
> > > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > > >
> > > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > > >
> > > > To tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > Kate
> > > >
> > > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us ‘in the know†!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lisa
> > > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> > >
> > > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
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::looks at Ravens score::

::looks at Greyfriars Warrior's skull::

::remembers myriad mythologies regarding ravens being messengers from the Underworld/Otherworld::

That's just...neat.

~Weds


--- In , George Butterfield wrote:
>
> All this and the Superbowl I am going cross eyed
> G

I would love that! Only I don't have any money on my artist's salary!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:

> My York ancestors also had that's traitor nose and strong jaw.......maybe they were among the many "and many other children"!
> Listen, I am quite serious. At some point, I think it would be super if we could arrange a trip for us in the UA to visit the UK and see what we can of the land of R3!
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" <bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi@...>> wrote:
>
>
>
> All his portraits shows him with square jaws and strong nose...... At least the Tudor painters kept that part of his face true to fact......Whatever they might have done with the wrinkles.....
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:17 PM, "wednesday_mc" wednesday.mac@...<mailto:wednesday.mac%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> A friend and I made plans weeks ago to walk a labyrinth tomorrow. I guess now I know why.
>>
>> After seeing the photo of his skull and how it's affected me, I think I'm going to wait until I get back to find out what you all say about the conference and the documentary. I have to be able to drive, not cry.
>>
>> But dang, the man had a strong jaw.
>>
>> ~Weds
>>
>> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>
>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I will buy a lottery ticket for you!

On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:04 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" <bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi@...>> wrote:



I would love that! Only I don't have any money on my artist's salary!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>> wrote:

> My York ancestors also had that's traitor nose and strong jaw.......maybe they were among the many "and many other children"!
> Listen, I am quite serious. At some point, I think it would be super if we could arrange a trip for us in the UA to visit the UK and see what we can of the land of R3!
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi%40yahoo.com>bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi%40yahoo.com>>> wrote:
>
>
>
> All his portraits shows him with square jaws and strong nose...... At least the Tudor painters kept that part of his face true to fact......Whatever they might have done with the wrinkles.....
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:17 PM, "wednesday_mc" wednesday.mac@...<mailto:wednesday.mac%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> A friend and I made plans weeks ago to walk a labyrinth tomorrow. I guess now I know why.
>>
>> After seeing the photo of his skull and how it's affected me, I think I'm going to wait until I get back to find out what you all say about the conference and the documentary. I have to be able to drive, not cry.
>>
>> But dang, the man had a strong jaw.
>>
>> ~Weds
>>
>> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>
>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

The power all in CT is over 200 million!!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:

> I will buy a lottery ticket for you!
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:04 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" <bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi@...>> wrote:
>
>
>
> I would love that! Only I don't have any money on my artist's salary!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>> wrote:
>
>> My York ancestors also had that's traitor nose and strong jaw.......maybe they were among the many "and many other children"!
>> Listen, I am quite serious. At some point, I think it would be super if we could arrange a trip for us in the UA to visit the UK and see what we can of the land of R3!
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi%40yahoo.com>bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi%40yahoo.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> All his portraits shows him with square jaws and strong nose...... At least the Tudor painters kept that part of his face true to fact......Whatever they might have done with the wrinkles.....
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:17 PM, "wednesday_mc" wednesday.mac@...<mailto:wednesday.mac%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> A friend and I made plans weeks ago to walk a labyrinth tomorrow. I guess now I know why.
>>>
>>> After seeing the photo of his skull and how it's affected me, I think I'm going to wait until I get back to find out what you all say about the conference and the documentary. I have to be able to drive, not cry.
>>>
>>> But dang, the man had a strong jaw.
>>>
>>> ~Weds
>>>
>>> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.

If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg

Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?

--- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>
> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
>
> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
>
> ~Weds
>
> --- In , Vickie wrote:
> >
> > One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> > Vickie
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > > Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> > > Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > > > Johanne
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Lisa!
> > > > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > > > Johanne
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Johanne
> > > > its
> > > > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > > > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > > > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > > > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > > > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to it all..
> > > >
> > > > Lisa
> > > >
> > > > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Kate -
> > > > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > > > >
> > > > > TTFN (smile)
> > > > > Johanne
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: katewescombe
> > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > > > feed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > > > >
> > > > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > > > >
> > > > > To tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kate
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us ‘in the know†!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Lisa
> > > > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > > > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > > > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> > > >
> > > > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > > > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > > > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
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Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
Johanne

-----Original Message-----

From: mcjohn_wt_net
Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture

It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.

If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg

Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?

--- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>
> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
>
> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
>
> ~Weds
>
> --- In , Vickie wrote:
> >
> > One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> > Vickie
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > > Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> > > Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > > > Johanne
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Lisa!
> > > > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > > > Johanne
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Johanne
> > > > its
> > > > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > > > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > > > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > > > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > > > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to it all..
> > > >
> > > > Lisa
> > > >
> > > > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Kate -
> > > > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > > > >
> > > > > TTFN (smile)
> > > > > Johanne
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: katewescombe
> > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > > > feed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > > > >
> > > > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > > > >
> > > > > To tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kate
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us ââ¬ËSin the knowâ⬠!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Lisa
> > > > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > > > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > > > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> > > >
> > > > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > > > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > > > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
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> > > >
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You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.

--- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
> Johanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: mcjohn_wt_net
> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>
> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
>
> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
>
> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
>
> --- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
> >
> > In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
> >
> > What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
> >
> > ~Weds
> >
> > --- In , Vickie wrote:
> > >
> > > One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> > > Vickie
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> > > > Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > > > > Johanne
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Lisa!
> > > > > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > > > > Johanne
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Johanne
> > > > > its
> > > > > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > > > > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > > > > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > > > > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > > > > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking forward to it all..
> > > > >
> > > > > Lisa
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Kate -
> > > > > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > > > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > > > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TTFN (smile)
> > > > > > Johanne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: katewescombe
> > > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > > > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > > > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > > > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > > > > feed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > > > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > > > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > > > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > > > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > > > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > > > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > > > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us â€ËÅ"in the know†!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > > > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > > > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > > > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Lisa
> > > > > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > > > > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > > > > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> > > > >
> > > > > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > > > > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > > > > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > > > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...

Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:

> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
>
> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
> > Johanne
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: mcjohn_wt_net
> > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
> >
> > It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
> >
> > If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
> >
> > Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
> >
> > --- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
> > >
> > > In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
> > >
> > > What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
> > >
> > > ~Weds
> > >
> > > --- In , Vickie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> > > > Vickie
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> > > > > Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> > > > > > Johanne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Karen Raynor
> > > > > > Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Johanne Tournier
> > > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Lisa!
> > > > > > I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> > > > > > Johanne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> > > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Johanne
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> > > > > > & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> > > > > > Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> > > > > > anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> > > > > > store it on my PC - will let you know)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looking forward to it all..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lisa
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, Kate -
> > > > > > > Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> > > > > > > fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> > > > > > > keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TTFN (smile)
> > > > > > > Johanne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: katewescombe
> > > > > > > Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> > > > > > > ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> > > > > > > the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> > > > > > > online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> > > > > > > feed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> > > > > > > trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> > > > > > > read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> > > > > > > hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> > > > > > > tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To tomorrow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> > > > > > > Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> > > > > > > think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> > > > > > > was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> > > > > > > > On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us ýýýýýýýýýýýýýý"in the knowýýýýýýýýýýý !
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > From: [mailto:
> > > > > > > ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> > > > > > > comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Too many of those fools out there!
> > > > > > > > > Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> > > > > > > feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > > > > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > > > > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > > > > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Lisa
> > > > > > The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> > > > > > Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> > > > > > Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> > > > > > Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> > > > > > View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Would have been 5'8' not taken curvature of spine into consideration....Scoliosis would have develped when he was anout 10 years old. He was not born with it...
On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:

> 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
>
> Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
>>
>> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
>>> Johanne
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>>>
>>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
>>>
>>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
>>>
>>> --- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
>>>>
>>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
>>>>
>>>> ~Weds
>>>>
>>>> --- In , Vickie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
>>>>> Vickie
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
>>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Johanne
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
>>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
>>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
>>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
>>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
>>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
>>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
>>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
>>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
>>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
>>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
>>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
>>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
>>>>>>>> feed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
>>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
>>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
>>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
>>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In , eileen bates wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
>>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
>>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
>>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
>>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us âââ"Ú¬ÃÅ"in the knowâââ"Ú¬ !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: [mailto:
>>>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
>>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
>>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
>>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
>>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
>>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
>>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
>>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
>>>>>>> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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DNA points to these are the remains of Richard....
On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:

> 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
>
> Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
>>
>> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
>>> Johanne
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>>>
>>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
>>>
>>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
>>>
>>> --- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
>>>>
>>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
>>>>
>>>> ~Weds
>>>>
>>>> --- In , Vickie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
>>>>> Vickie
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
>>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Johanne
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
>>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
>>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
>>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
>>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
>>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
>>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
>>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
>>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
>>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
>>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
>>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
>>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
>>>>>>>> feed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
>>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
>>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
>>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
>>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In , eileen bates wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
>>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
>>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
>>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
>>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us âââ"Ú¬ÃÅ"in the knowâââ"Ú¬ !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: [mailto:
>>>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
>>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
>>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
>>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
>>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
>>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
>>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
>>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
>>>>>>> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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"It is beyond doubt these are the remains of Richard 111 last Plantagenet King" Amen...
On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:

> 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
>
> Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
>>
>> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
>>> Johanne
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>>>
>>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
>>>
>>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
>>>
>>> --- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
>>>>
>>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
>>>>
>>>> ~Weds
>>>>
>>>> --- In , Vickie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
>>>>> Vickie
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
>>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Johanne
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
>>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
>>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
>>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
>>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
>>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
>>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
>>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
>>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
>>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
>>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
>>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
>>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
>>>>>>>> feed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
>>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
>>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
>>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
>>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In , eileen bates wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
>>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
>>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
>>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
>>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us âââ"Ú¬ÃÅ"in the knowâââ"Ú¬ !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: [mailto:
>>>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
>>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
>>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
>>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
>>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
>>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
>>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
>>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
>>>>>>> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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To be reburied in Liecester Cathedral......defo...
On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:38, eileen bates wrote:

> DNA points to these are the remains of Richard....
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:
>
> > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> >
> > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> > On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> >
> >> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
> >>
> >> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
> >>> Johanne
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
> >>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
> >>> To:
> >>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
> >>>
> >>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
> >>>
> >>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
> >>>
> >>> --- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
> >>>>
> >>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Weds
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In , Vickie wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> >>>>> Vickie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> >>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> >>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
> >>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
> >>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> >>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> >>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Johanne
> >>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> >>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> >>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> >>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> >>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> >>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lisa
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
> >>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> >>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> >>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
> >>>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
> >>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> >>>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> >>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> >>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> >>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> >>>>>>>> feed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> >>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> >>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> >>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> >>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kate
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> >>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> >>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> >>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> >>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us âââ"Ú¬ÃÅ"in the knowâââ"Ú¬ !
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>> From: [mailto:
> >>>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> >>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
> >>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> >>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
> >>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> >>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> >>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Lisa
> >>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> >>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> >>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> >>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> >>>>>>> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
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Just simply FREAKING amazing! We live in an amazing time.....all these years, all the stories, speculations, skulduggery (pardon the pun) and blasphemy, and now we know!

On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:40 AM, "eileen bates" <eileenbates147@...<mailto:eileenbates147@...>> wrote:



"It is beyond doubt these are the remains of Richard 111 last Plantagenet King" Amen...
On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:

> 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
>
> Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
>>
>> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
>>> Johanne
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>>>
>>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
>>>
>>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
>>>
>>> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
>>>>
>>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
>>>>
>>>> ~Weds
>>>>
>>>> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Vickie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
>>>>> Vickie
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
>>>>>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
>>>>>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
>>>>>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
>>>>>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
>>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
>>>>>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Johanne
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
>>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
>>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
>>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
>>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
>>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
>>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
>>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
>>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
>>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
>>>>>>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
>>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
>>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
>>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
>>>>>>>> feed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
>>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
>>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
>>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
>>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, eileen bates wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
>>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
>>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
>>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
>>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us âââ"Ú¬ÃÅ"in the knowâââ"Ú¬ !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
>>>>>>>> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
>>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
>>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
>>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.com<http://www.ishitabandyo.com>
>>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts<http://www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts>
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com<http://www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
>>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
>>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.com<http://www.Antiques-Boutique.com> http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
>>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*<http://www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*>
>>>>>>> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>>>>>>>
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Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 12:09
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture

 
Just simply FREAKING amazing! We live in an amazing time.....all these years, all the stories, speculations, skulduggery (pardon the pun) and blasphemy, and now we know!

On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:40 AM, "eileen bates" mailto:eileenbates147%40btinternet.commailto:eileenbates147%40btinternet.com>> wrote:



"It is beyond doubt these are the remains of Richard 111 last Plantagenet King" Amen...
On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:

> 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
>
> Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
>
>> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
>>
>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
>>> Johanne
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>>>
>>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
>>>
>>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
>>>
>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "wednesday_mc" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
>>>>
>>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
>>>>
>>>> ~Weds
>>>>
>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
>>>>> Vickie
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
>>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
>>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
>>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Johanne
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
>>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
>>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
>>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
>>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
>>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
>>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
>>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
>>>>>>>> Johanne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
>>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
>>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
>>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
>>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
>>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
>>>>>>>> feed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
>>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
>>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
>>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
>>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, eileen bates wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
>>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
>>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
>>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
>>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us âââ"Ú¬ÃÅ"in the knowâââ"Ú¬ !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>>>>>>>> mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
>>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
>>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
>>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.comhttp://www.ishitabandyo.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofineartshttp://www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts>
>>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.comhttp://www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
>>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
>>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.comhttp://www.antiques-boutique.com/> http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
>>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*http://www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*>
>>>>>>> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Oh dearie me...Mr Shakespeare must be ducking and diving in his grave today...Eileen

--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Just simply FREAKING amazing! We live in an amazing time.....all these years, all the stories, speculations, skulduggery (pardon the pun) and blasphemy, and now we know!
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:40 AM, "eileen bates" > wrote:
>
>
>
> "It is beyond doubt these are the remains of Richard 111 last Plantagenet King" Amen...
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:
>
> > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> >
> > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> > On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> >
> >> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
> >>
> >> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
> >>> Johanne
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
> >>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
> >>> To:
> >>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
> >>>
> >>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
> >>>
> >>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
> >>>
> >>> --- In , "wednesday_mc" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
> >>>>
> >>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Weds
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In , Vickie wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> >>>>> Vickie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> >>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> >>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
> >>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
> >>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> >>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> >>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Johanne
> >>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> >>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> >>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> >>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> >>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> >>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lisa
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
> >>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> >>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> >>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
> >>>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
> >>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> >>>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> >>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> >>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> >>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> >>>>>>>> feed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> >>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> >>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> >>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> >>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kate
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In , eileen bates wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> >>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> >>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> >>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> >>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us Ã∞¢ââ•˚¬Ãâ€"Ã…"in the knowÃ∞¢ââ•˚¬ !
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>> From: [mailto:
> >>>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> >>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
> >>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> >>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
> >>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> >>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> >>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Lisa
> >>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> >>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> >>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.com http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> >>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*
> >>>>>>> View our Ceramic Restoration Photos
> >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398988066799604.100100.108554399176307&type=1&l=cd560aff9f>
> >>>>>>>
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Good link Liz...the best so far for photos....thank you Eileen
On 4 Feb 2013, at 12:14, liz williams wrote:

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21063882
>
> If you sign in you can leave comments here
>
>
>
> From: Pamela Bain pbain@...>
> To: ">" >
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 12:09
> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>
>
> Just simply FREAKING amazing! We live in an amazing time.....all these years, all the stories, speculations, skulduggery (pardon the pun) and blasphemy, and now we know!
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:40 AM, "eileen bates" mailto:eileenbates147%40btinternet.commailto:eileenbates147%40btinternet.com>> wrote:
>
> "It is beyond doubt these are the remains of Richard 111 last Plantagenet King" Amen...
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:28, eileen bates wrote:
>
> > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> >
> > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> > On 4 Feb 2013, at 10:23, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> >
> >> You're right--the rectangular penetration is consistent with a blade wound from a weapon, perhaps a knife or dagger.
> >>
> >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Interesting. I don't ever remember seeing holes like that before, but then I'm no expert.
> >>> Johanne
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> From: mcjohn_wt_net
> >>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 03:37:05 GMT
> >>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
> >>>
> >>> It's tough to see that... this is an artistically lit shot and it's frustrating.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone would like to see a diagram of the anatomy of the skull:
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_skull_front_suturas.svg
> >>>
> >>> Looks like the small perforations below the eye sockets are natural features. I want to say those are openings through which nerve trunks pass, but I'm probably way wrong about that. Any anatomy experts in the group?
> >>>
> >>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "wednesday_mc" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In an article I read on the discovery and analyses of the Towton archers/soldiers, one of the analysts remarked the teeth were exceptionally strong and in good condition generally because of the lack of sugar in people's diets back then.
> >>>>
> >>>> What is that vertical mark in the middle of his forehead?
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Weds
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Vickie wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing I noticed is his teeth were on pretty good shape
> >>>>> Vickie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Here it is: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/is-this-the-skull-of-richard-iii.htm
> >>>>>> Why did I feel so sad?!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Karen Raynor karenraynor@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:13:07 GMT
> >>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I heard it on local news so googled Leicester uni and there it is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:09:54 GMT
> >>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Quick, Karen, what's the URL?
> >>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Karen Raynor
> >>>>>>> Sent: 4 Feb 2013 01:06:08 GMT
> >>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And so it begins....Leicester uni have released pics online of the skull......
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Johanne Tournier
> >>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:55:05 GMT
> >>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Lisa!
> >>>>>>> I can't believe that it's less than 12 hrs away! Yippee!
> >>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Lisa @ The Antiques Boutique
> >>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:34:25 GMT
> >>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Johanne
> >>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>> @uniofleicester https://twitter.com/uniofleicester>
> >>>>>>> & yes we are go at 6am here in Atlantic Canada - I'm going to go to
> >>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/ for my updates & should be able to get the
> >>>>>>> Chanel 4 program through my Apple TV/itunes app - I'll see if there is
> >>>>>>> anyway I can copy it (dont have a recording device but I may be able to
> >>>>>>> store it on my PC - will let you know)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looking forward to it all..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lisa
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3 February 2013 19:21, Johanne Tournier jltournier60@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi, Kate -
> >>>>>>>> Do you know what the unit's Twitter handle is?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think 10 am GMT is 6 am here in Atlantic Canada. I'll try to be online
> >>>>>>>> fm then and have BBC on TV just on case. So I hope you lucky people will
> >>>>>>>> keep us in mind & let us know when the press conference comes online.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TTFN (smile)
> >>>>>>>> Johanne
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: katewescombe
> >>>>>>>> Sent: 3 Feb 2013 23:10:05 GMT
> >>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing comment
> >>>>>>>> ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There won't be any live audio or visual feeds from the press conference on
> >>>>>>>> the university website although they will put a recording of the conference
> >>>>>>>> online afterwards. During the conference the uni will be running a twitter
> >>>>>>>> feed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Reading their notes for the press, provision is being made for satellite
> >>>>>>>> trucks so I guess some channels may run the conference live - I think I've
> >>>>>>>> read it will be shown on the BBC website.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For those interested in the bone and site reports, details of how to get
> >>>>>>>> hold of these will be on the Leicester website after the press briefing
> >>>>>>>> tomorrow (pers. com. Richard Buckley).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To tomorrow.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kate
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, eileen bates wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ok...look...if there is going to be a live news conference on the
> >>>>>>>> Leicester University website...I will watch and post at the same time...I
> >>>>>>>> think someone..Liz?..said that it was going to start about 10.30 and she
> >>>>>>>> was hoping to be able to watch it...Eileen
> >>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:56, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But rich, with friends in the UK, who keep us âââ"Ú¬ÃÅ"in the knowâââ"Ú¬ !
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> >>>>>>>> mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:54 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Lin Foxhall's disturbing
> >>>>>>>> comment ( Was: ... inconclusive DNA result?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Too many of those fools out there!
> >>>>>>>>>> Please let us in US know how it goes as soon you guys find out. We are
> >>>>>>>> feeling like poor cousins out here:)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ishita Bandyo
> >>>>>>>>>> www.ishitabandyo.comhttp://www.ishitabandyo.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofineartshttp://www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofineartswww.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.comhttp://www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Lisa
> >>>>>>> The Antiques Boutique & Ceramic Restoration/Conservation Services
> >>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia.
> >>>>>>> Tel: 902 295 9013 / 1329
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> www.Antiques-Boutique.comhttp://www.antiques-boutique.com/> http://www.antiques-boutique.com/>
> >>>>>>> Like us on *www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*http://www.facebook.com/TheAntiquesBoutique*>
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--- In , Karen Raynor wrote:
>
> Bbc News website. Sorry I have no idea how to put url on here : (

Carol responds:

Just copy and paste. Surprise, "CBS This Morning" showed a photo of the skull next to the National Portrait Gallery portrait with a headline that read something like "The Skeleton Is the King." Must get back to watching because they promised more.

Carol

Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Here it is â€"
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
>
> It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.

Carol responds:

If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!

Carol

I believe that the real telling blows were the ones at the base and rear of the scull.
It looks like a slice had been taken out of his cranium and a hole next to the lower part of his cranium also.
Either of the wounds would have most certainly killed him, one can only speculate in which order they were administered, I can only hope that he did not suffer for long.
It will be interesting to find out if the wounds came from a similar direction or from multiple angles they have already stated that some of the wounds were postmortem.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why in the photos of the discovery his skull looked like it had been propped up yet the description states "as discovered"
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:

> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Here it is â¬"
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> >
> > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!
>
> Carol
>
>

Hi, George 

About the angle of the skull  I took if from what Richard Buckley said that the actual grave was too short for the body. The legs were put in first, and thus were completely extended, but they ran out of room. Therefore when they laid the head in, it was cocked at an angle, propped against the far vertical wall of the grave. And it appears that the mouth was open when it was placed in the grave, and the arms and hands were in an unusual position, lying on the right hip, I think. That's why Buckley says that they think Richard's hands may still have been tied at that point. And the website says the body had neither coffin nor shroud.



Remember how we were speculating that maybe there was a White Boar badge or something found with the body. Well, it appears that must have been a misunderstanding, as there was nothing else with the body.



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:51 AM
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture





I believe that the real telling blows were the ones at the base and rear of the scull.
It looks like a slice had been taken out of his cranium and a hole next to the lower part of his cranium also.
Either of the wounds would have most certainly killed him, one can only speculate in which order they were administered, I can only hope that he did not suffer for long.
It will be interesting to find out if the wounds came from a similar direction or from multiple angles they have already stated that some of the wounds were postmortem.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why in the photos of the discovery his skull looked like it had been propped up yet the description states "as discovered"
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "justcarol67" justcarol67@... <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Here it is â¬"
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> >
> > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!
>
> Carol
>
>

I believe they did state that the hole wasn't big enough for the body, the body was made to fit, so the head placed on top. No coffin or shroud.

--- In , George Butterfield wrote:
>
> I believe that the real telling blows were the ones at the base and rear of the scull.
> It looks like a slice had been taken out of his cranium and a hole next to the lower part of his cranium also.
> Either of the wounds would have most certainly killed him, one can only speculate in which order they were administered, I can only hope that he did not suffer for long.
> It will be interesting to find out if the wounds came from a similar direction or from multiple angles they have already stated that some of the wounds were postmortem.
> Perhaps someone can explain to me why in the photos of the discovery his skull looked like it had been propped up yet the description states "as discovered"
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/04/digging-richard-iii-old-arguments
 
And here we have was what was inevitable! Like the bit about the R3 Soc being less than partial, though. Where is Michael Wood? 


________________________________
From: Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:01
Subject: RE: BBC News Skull picture

 

Hi, George 

About the angle of the skull  I took if from what Richard Buckley said that the actual grave was too short for the body. The legs were put in first, and thus were completely extended, but they ran out of room. Therefore when they laid the head in, it was cocked at an angle, propped against the far vertical wall of the grave. And it appears that the mouth was open when it was placed in the grave, and the arms and hands were in an unusual position, lying on the right hip, I think. That's why Buckley says that they think Richard's hands may still have been tied at that point. And the website says the body had neither coffin nor shroud.

Remember how we were speculating that maybe there was a White Boar badge or something found with the body. Well, it appears that must have been a misunderstanding, as there was nothing else with the body.

Loyaulte me lie,

Johanne

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Email - jltournier60@...

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- Jesus of Nazareth

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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:51 AM
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture

I believe that the real telling blows were the ones at the base and rear of the scull.
It looks like a slice had been taken out of his cranium and a hole next to the lower part of his cranium also.
Either of the wounds would have most certainly killed him, one can only speculate in which order they were administered, I can only hope that he did not suffer for long.
It will be interesting to find out if the wounds came from a similar direction or from multiple angles they have already stated that some of the wounds were postmortem.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why in the photos of the discovery his skull looked like it had been propped up yet the description states "as discovered"
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "justcarol67" justcarol67@... > wrote:

> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Here it is â¬"
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> >
> > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!
>
> Carol
>
>

Thanks Johanne,

Re reading the information and looking at the photo again you may well be correct, It would have been nice to have seen the actual discovery.



There is sooooooooooooooooo much information coming out that I am trying to get my facts straight I am now waiting to get a copy of the recording  King in a Car Park so far so good all my ducks appear to be in a row! I will advise as soon as I have details .

George



From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Johanne Tournier
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:01 AM
To:
Subject: RE: BBC News Skull picture





Hi, George 

About the angle of the skull  I took if from what Richard Buckley said that the actual grave was too short for the body. The legs were put in first, and thus were completely extended, but they ran out of room. Therefore when they laid the head in, it was cocked at an angle, propped against the far vertical wall of the grave. And it appears that the mouth was open when it was placed in the grave, and the arms and hands were in an unusual position, lying on the right hip, I think. That's why Buckley says that they think Richard's hands may still have been tied at that point. And the website says the body had neither coffin nor shroud.

Remember how we were speculating that maybe there was a White Boar badge or something found with the body. Well, it appears that must have been a misunderstanding, as there was nothing else with the body.

Loyaulte me lie,

Johanne

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Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>

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From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:51 AM
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture

I believe that the real telling blows were the ones at the base and rear of the scull.
It looks like a slice had been taken out of his cranium and a hole next to the lower part of his cranium also.
Either of the wounds would have most certainly killed him, one can only speculate in which order they were administered, I can only hope that he did not suffer for long.
It will be interesting to find out if the wounds came from a similar direction or from multiple angles they have already stated that some of the wounds were postmortem.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why in the photos of the discovery his skull looked like it had been propped up yet the description states "as discovered"
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "justcarol67" justcarol67@... <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Here it is â¬"
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> >
> > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!
>
> Carol
>
>

They did say several back teeth were missing from the skull.

--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Here it is â€"
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> >
> > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!
>
> Carol
>

Mr.Ley really does not know what he is talking about, he also probably belongs to the flat earth society and as for Darwin!!
Sadly the empty drum makes most sound.
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/04/digging-richard-iii-old-arguments
>
> And here we have was what was inevitable! Like the bit about the R3 Soc being less than partial, though. Where is Michael Wood?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier jltournier60@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:01
> Subject: RE: BBC News Skull picture
>
>
>
> Hi, George 
>
> About the angle of the skull  I took if from what Richard Buckley said that the actual grave was too short for the body. The legs were put in first, and thus were completely extended, but they ran out of room. Therefore when they laid the head in, it was cocked at an angle, propped against the far vertical wall of the grave. And it appears that the mouth was open when it was placed in the grave, and the arms and hands were in an unusual position, lying on the right hip, I think. That's why Buckley says that they think Richard's hands may still have been tied at that point. And the website says the body had neither coffin nor shroud.
>
> Remember how we were speculating that maybe there was a White Boar badge or something found with the body. Well, it appears that must have been a misunderstanding, as there was nothing else with the body.
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:51 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture
>
> I believe that the real telling blows were the ones at the base and rear of the scull.
> It looks like a slice had been taken out of his cranium and a hole next to the lower part of his cranium also.
> Either of the wounds would have most certainly killed him, one can only speculate in which order they were administered, I can only hope that he did not suffer for long.
> It will be interesting to find out if the wounds came from a similar direction or from multiple angles they have already stated that some of the wounds were postmortem.
> Perhaps someone can explain to me why in the photos of the discovery his skull looked like it had been propped up yet the description states "as discovered"
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "justcarol67" justcarol67@... > wrote:
>
> > Johanne Tournier wrote:
> > >
> > > Here it is â¬"
> > >
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> > >
> > > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi, George 

For some things I might be speculating, but on the position of the head and the arms/hands I'm going by what Richard Buckley said at the press conference. The height and the effect of the scoliosis was commented on by Jo Appleby, and the fact that there was no shroud or coffin is on the website.



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:11 PM
To:
Subject: RE: BBC News Skull picture





Thanks Johanne,

Re reading the information and looking at the photo again you may well be correct, It would have been nice to have seen the actual discovery.

There is sooooooooooooooooo much information coming out that I am trying to get my facts straight I am now waiting to get a copy of the recording  King in a Car Park so far so good all my ducks appear to be in a row! I will advise as soon as I have details .

George

From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Johanne Tournier
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:01 AM
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: BBC News Skull picture

Hi, George 

About the angle of the skull  I took if from what Richard Buckley said that the actual grave was too short for the body. The legs were put in first, and thus were completely extended, but they ran out of room. Therefore when they laid the head in, it was cocked at an angle, propped against the far vertical wall of the grave. And it appears that the mouth was open when it was placed in the grave, and the arms and hands were in an unusual position, lying on the right hip, I think. That's why Buckley says that they think Richard's hands may still have been tied at that point. And the website says the body had neither coffin nor shroud.

Remember how we were speculating that maybe there was a White Boar badge or something found with the body. Well, it appears that must have been a misunderstanding, as there was nothing else with the body.

Loyaulte me lie,

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>

or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:51 AM
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture

I believe that the real telling blows were the ones at the base and rear of the scull.
It looks like a slice had been taken out of his cranium and a hole next to the lower part of his cranium also.
Either of the wounds would have most certainly killed him, one can only speculate in which order they were administered, I can only hope that he did not suffer for long.
It will be interesting to find out if the wounds came from a similar direction or from multiple angles they have already stated that some of the wounds were postmortem.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why in the photos of the discovery his skull looked like it had been propped up yet the description states "as discovered"
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "justcarol67" justcarol67@... <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Here it is â¬"
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21203814
> >
> > It is striking! The teeth look to be in excellent shape. And it looks like that might be a slash or poleax blow under the right eye.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> If only they had taken the photo before they pulled those two back teeth for DNA analysis!
>
> Carol
>
>

eileen bates wrote:
>
> 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
>
> Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...

Carol responds:

Dear God. This is making me sick. They treated him like a felon. I suppose we should be grateful that they didn't mount his head on the Tower Bridge! You'd think that the monks would at least have untied his hands before they buried him in a place of honor.

Carol

Once he was taken down from his horse and surrounded by Infantry I do not believe that he would have lasted long, hopefully one of the two blows to the back of his head occurred soon after, he would have known little or nothing.
His hands would have been tied together probably to lash him on a horse to bring him back from the battlefield and just were never removed ( I would think that the Grey Friars would want to bury the body as soon as possible remember it was several days after the battle)
George

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On Feb 4, 2013, at 12:14 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:

> eileen bates wrote:
> >
> > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> >
> > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Dear God. This is making me sick. They treated him like a felon. I suppose we should be grateful that they didn't mount his head on the Tower Bridge! You'd think that the monks would at least have untied his hands before they buried him in a place of honor.
>
> Carol
>
>

Yes indeed I suppose Richard could have been treated worse, as Richard's
father and older brother's heads had been mounted on pikes and displayed on
Mickelgate Bar at York. On the other hand, I am surprised the friars didn't
untie his hands and at least give him a shroud. (unhappy smiley face)



Yes, the King is missing a tooth in front and several of his molars, which
someone commented were probably lost due to dental caries. But still overall
- I'm so used to seeing people with irregular teeth, I am sure he would have
had a flashing smile. (smiley smiley face)



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:15 PM
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture





eileen bates wrote:
>
> 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after
death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on
the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to
cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
>
> Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...

Carol responds:

Dear God. This is making me sick. They treated him like a felon. I suppose
we should be grateful that they didn't mount his head on the Tower Bridge!
You'd think that the monks would at least have untied his hands before they
buried him in a place of honor.

Carol

And I dont know why they could not have given him a shroud....even poor people were buried in shrouds...Maybe there was a reason which has been lost to us now. Even the grave was not long enough...that is why his head was propped up a little...Was it all rushed for some reason?

Why they were allowed to treat the body of a fallen annointed king is awful. I noticed that nothing was said about the arrow?

By the way Carol..you mean London Bridge :0)
Eileen


--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> eileen bates wrote:
> >
> > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> >
> > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Dear God. This is making me sick. They treated him like a felon. I suppose we should be grateful that they didn't mount his head on the Tower Bridge! You'd think that the monks would at least have untied his hands before they buried him in a place of honor.
>
> Carol
>

Johanne Tournier wrote:
[snip]
>
> Yes, the King is missing a tooth in front and several of his molars, which someone commented were probably lost due to dental caries. But still overall - I'm so used to seeing people with irregular teeth, I am sure he would have had a flashing smile. (smiley smiley face)

Carol responds:

I'm not sure about the dental caries. Would he have eaten subtleties and other desserts at anything other than the occasional banquet? Sugar use in England wasn't as widespread in Richard's time as it was in Elizabeth I's what with all those sugar plantations in the New World. Also, the other teeth seem to be in fine shape. (I'm still curious about the tiny molars. Or are wisdom teeth usually small? Mine were impacted and surgically removed when I was eighteen.)

At any rate, the Society's new website says "Radiocarbon dating reveals individual had a high protein diet – including significant amounts of seafood - meaning he was likely to be of high status." That would be Lent and all those gifts of bream, sturgeon, and pike from the people of Yorkshire!

http://www.richardiii.net/leicester_dig.php#facetime

Carol

Eileen wrote:

[snip]
>
> By the way Carol..you mean London Bridge :0)

Carol responds:

Right. The Tower Bridge wasn't built yet. I wasn't thinking clearly. I have such mixed emotions now that I don't think I can even name them all! Too bad I don't like tea or I'd brew myself a cup to comfort me!

Carol

Evening Everyone in the World Wide Ricardian Family!!!

Here is the latest Press Release from the Society released today. Sorry
it is so long in this format.

BTW Paul, the 'Conference' tomorrow is the reveal of the actual
reconstructed head at the Society of Antiquities ( see below)

cheers

Jac

*******************



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 4 February 2013
GREYFRIARS HUMAN REMAINS
CONFIRMED AS RICHARD III

" Richard III Society hails news as a unique moment in history'
" Society claims news is spine-tingling', the stuff of legend'
and an emotional link to a bygone age'
" Will inspire a renaissance in the study of the life and times of
Richard III and the re-writing of history
" Calls to end the lazy acquiescence with the Tudor and
Shakespearean myths' about the king

Today's news confirmed what until this morning members of the Richard
III Society had hardly dared believe, that
the Greyfriars human remains are indeed those of Richard Plantagenet,
the fifteenth-century English king, known
to most as Richard III: the last warrior king of England.
This is a unique moment in history. Richard III has been found and
can now be given a reinterment with dignity
and solemnity, something denied him these last 500 or more years. Also,
when the facial reconstruction is revealed,
which will be spine-tingling, people will see the face of the man so
badly used by history. Maybe, now that people
can see that Richard III was a human being, not a monster, they will
stop knocking his reputation and give the truth
a chance to come out. Congratulations to Philippa Langley for her
determination to see this project through.
Thanks, too, to the scientific team at Leicester University for all that
they have achieved. Good King Richard can be
laid to rest at last.

Dr Phil Stone, Chairman, Richard III Society
The discovery of King Richard III is nothing short of miraculous, an
emotional link to a bygone age. This historic
moment represents the culmination of an extraordinary four year quest to
uncover the real Richard III. Today that
dream has been realised. To those around the world who saved the
Greyfriars dig from disaster and cancellation,
you gave us our mandate when you said: Search for him, find him,
honour him'. It is now time to fulfil this mandate
and honour this much maligned monarch with a reburial that befits a
king, and a total reassessment of his life and
times. This is the stuff of legends.'

Philippa Langley, Originator of the Looking for Richard' project
This is an exciting and wonderful outcome from the DNA perspective.
However, we must remember that DNA
alone can NEVER prove someone's identity. It can only DISPROVE
identity (if you get a mismatch). This exciting
DNA match indicates that the Leicester male is related in some way to
the female-line descendants of Richard III's
sister, Anne of York. By itself, that is extremely suggestive. When we
combine that with all the other circumstantial
evidence available  such as the date of his death, the location in
which his remains were found, the fact that he was
male, the evidence of his high social class, and the compelling evidence
of the circumstances in which death
occurred, together with the evidence relating to his physical
appearance, we are confronted with overwhelming
evidence that the male remains from the Greyfriars are indeed those of
Richard III

Dr John Ashdown-Hill, Historian
The Richard III Society has been working since 1924 to secure a
reassessment of King Richard's place in English
history and to challenge the myths that surround his life and
reputation.

The project to search for King Richard III's final resting place was
driven largely by two members of the Society,
Philippa Langley and Dr John Ashdown-Hill. Philippa, a screenwriter who
is secretary of the Society's Scottish
Branch, conceived the project and worked unaided for several years
before approaching the Society for support. Dr.
Ashdown-Hill contributed the background research into the location of
the Grey Friars and discovered King
Richard's mtDNA that confirmed the identification of the human remains.

Until last summer, the location of King Richard's remains was one of
the most hotly debated issues in English
history; he was the last English king to die in battle and reports of
what happened to his remains became muddled
over the subsequent 500 years. As a defeated king Richard suffered at
the hands of those who had deposed him and
his reputation underwent claims of murder, physical deformity and
incompetence. But today's results offer a
tantalising opportunity to set the record straight over the king's
reputation and encourage further research into his
life and times. Historical justice for Richard III is long overdue.
Thanks to the efforts of the Richard III Society, and all those involved
with the recent dig, the project to find King
Richard's remains has now yielded results that few would dare have
dreamt of. Our understanding of this period of
English history will be the better for it.



Notes to Editors
TOMORROW, THE RICHARD III SOCIETY WILL REVEAL THE FACE OF KING RICHARD
III FROM
A FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION UNDERTAKEN BY PROFESSOR CAROLINE WILKINSON OF
THE
UNIVERSITY OF DUNDEE.
THE RECONSTRUCTION, FUNDED BY THE RICHARD III SOCIETY, WILL BE UNVEILED
FOR THE
MEDIA.
WHERE: Society of Antiquaries
Burlington House, Piccadilly, London, W1J 0BE
WHEN: 10.00am - 11.00am
5 February 2013
Background

Richard III was an innovative king of England; initiatives such as the
Council of the North, an early example of
devolution, lasted until the mid-seventeenth century; his legal reforms
continued long after his death, with some still
embedded in our laws today. Noteworthy aspects of his reign include:
" being the first king to use English to swear his coronation oath and
to record acts of parliament.
" a commitment to fair play in the judicial system: his actions and
proclamations stressing that his laws were
to be administered impartially without delay or favour, thereby helping
to establish the legal principle of
blind justice.'
" development of an early form of Legal Aid, which provided support
for those unable to afford lawyers by
allowing people to make direct petitions to the Royal Council. Under
Henry VII this became the Court of
Requests.
" introduction of bail, thereby initiating the legal principle of
presumption of innocence'.
" active encouragment of the fledging book printing industry, a policy
reflecting the king's own personal
interest in books

Thanks Jac....off now to catch the documentary....Eileen

--- In , jacqui wrote:
>
>
> Evening Everyone in the World Wide Ricardian Family!!!
>
> Here is the latest Press Release from the Society released today. Sorry
> it is so long in this format.
>
> BTW Paul, the 'Conference' tomorrow is the reveal of the actual
> reconstructed head at the Society of Antiquities ( see below)
>
> cheers
>
> Jac
>
> *******************
>
>
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 4 February 2013
> GREYFRIARS HUMAN REMAINS
> CONFIRMED AS RICHARD III
>
> • Richard III Society hails news as a ‘unique moment in history’
> • Society claims news is ‘spine-tingling’, ‘the stuff of legend’
> and ‘an emotional link to a bygone age’
> • Will inspire a renaissance in the study of the life and times of
> Richard III and the re-writing of history
> • Calls to end the ‘lazy acquiescence with the Tudor and
> Shakespearean myths’ about the king
>
> Today’s news confirmed what until this morning members of the Richard
> III Society had hardly dared believe, that
> the Greyfriars human remains are indeed those of Richard Plantagenet,
> the fifteenth-century English king, known
> to most as Richard III: the last warrior king of England.
> ‘This is a unique moment in history. Richard III has been found and
> can now be given a reinterment with dignity
> and solemnity, something denied him these last 500 or more years. Also,
> when the facial reconstruction is revealed,
> which will be spine-tingling, people will see the face of the man so
> badly used by history. Maybe, now that people
> can see that Richard III was a human being, not a monster, they will
> stop knocking his reputation and give the truth
> a chance to come out. Congratulations to Philippa Langley for her
> determination to see this project through.
> Thanks, too, to the scientific team at Leicester University for all that
> they have achieved. Good King Richard can be
> laid to rest at last.
>
> Dr Phil Stone, Chairman, Richard III Society
> ‘The discovery of King Richard III is nothing short of miraculous, an
> emotional link to a bygone age. This historic
> moment represents the culmination of an extraordinary four year quest to
> uncover the real Richard III. Today that
> dream has been realised. To those around the world who saved the
> Greyfriars dig from disaster and cancellation,
> you gave us our mandate when you said: ‘Search for him, find him,
> honour him’. It is now time to fulfil this mandate
> and honour this much maligned monarch with a reburial that befits a
> king, and a total reassessment of his life and
> times. This is the stuff of legends.’
>
> Philippa Langley, Originator of the ‘Looking for Richard’ project
> This is an exciting and wonderful outcome from the DNA perspective.
> However, we must remember that DNA
> alone can NEVER prove someone’s identity. It can only DISPROVE
> identity (if you get a mismatch). This exciting
> DNA match indicates that the Leicester male is related in some way to
> the female-line descendants of Richard III’s
> sister, Anne of York. By itself, that is extremely suggestive. When we
> combine that with all the other circumstantial
> evidence available â€" such as the date of his death, the location in
> which his remains were found, the fact that he was
> male, the evidence of his high social class, and the compelling evidence
> of the circumstances in which death
> occurred, together with the evidence relating to his physical
> appearance, we are confronted with overwhelming
> evidence that the male remains from the Greyfriars are indeed those of
> Richard III
>
> Dr John Ashdown-Hill, Historian
> The Richard III Society has been working since 1924 to secure a
> reassessment of King Richard’s place in English
> history and to challenge the myths that surround his life and
> reputation.
>
> The project to search for King Richard III’s final resting place was
> driven largely by two members of the Society,
> Philippa Langley and Dr John Ashdown-Hill. Philippa, a screenwriter who
> is secretary of the Society’s Scottish
> Branch, conceived the project and worked unaided for several years
> before approaching the Society for support. Dr.
> Ashdown-Hill contributed the background research into the location of
> the Grey Friars and discovered King
> Richard’s mtDNA that confirmed the identification of the human remains.
>
> Until last summer, the location of King Richard’s remains was one of
> the most hotly debated issues in English
> history; he was the last English king to die in battle and reports of
> what happened to his remains became muddled
> over the subsequent 500 years. As a defeated king Richard suffered at
> the hands of those who had deposed him and
> his reputation underwent claims of murder, physical deformity and
> incompetence. But today’s results offer a
> tantalising opportunity to set the record straight over the king’s
> reputation and encourage further research into his
> life and times. Historical justice for Richard III is long overdue.
> Thanks to the efforts of the Richard III Society, and all those involved
> with the recent dig, the project to find King
> Richard’s remains has now yielded results that few would dare have
> dreamt of. Our understanding of this period of
> English history will be the better for it.
>
>
>
> Notes to Editors
> TOMORROW, THE RICHARD III SOCIETY WILL REVEAL THE FACE OF KING RICHARD
> III FROM
> A FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION UNDERTAKEN BY PROFESSOR CAROLINE WILKINSON OF
> THE
> UNIVERSITY OF DUNDEE.
> THE RECONSTRUCTION, FUNDED BY THE RICHARD III SOCIETY, WILL BE UNVEILED
> FOR THE
> MEDIA.
> WHERE: Society of Antiquaries
> Burlington House, Piccadilly, London, W1J 0BE
> WHEN: 10.00am - 11.00am
> 5 February 2013
> Background
>
> Richard III was an innovative king of England; initiatives such as the
> Council of the North, an early example of
> devolution, lasted until the mid-seventeenth century; his legal reforms
> continued long after his death, with some still
> embedded in our laws today. Noteworthy aspects of his reign include:
> • being the first king to use English to swear his coronation oath and
> to record acts of parliament.
> • a commitment to fair play in the judicial system: his actions and
> proclamations stressing that his laws were
> to be administered impartially without delay or favour, thereby helping
> to establish the legal principle of
> ‘blind justice.’
> • development of an early form of Legal Aid, which provided support
> for those unable to afford lawyers by
> allowing people to make direct petitions to the Royal Council. Under
> Henry VII this became the Court of
> Requests.
> • introduction of bail, thereby initiating the legal principle of
> ‘presumption of innocence’.
> • active encouragment of the fledging book printing industry, a policy
> reflecting the king’s own personal
> interest in books
>

This was an incredibly exciting afternoon for me. Finally seeing the skeleton with his scoliosis was actually quite moving. Today is a great day for the Society, and I feel so proud to be a tiny part of it.

Cecilia




________________________________
Da: jacqui <jacqui@...>
A:
Inviato: Lunedì 4 Febbraio 2013 21:35
Oggetto: Richard III Society's Press Release February 4th 2013


 

Evening Everyone in the World Wide Ricardian Family!!!

Here is the latest Press Release from the Society released today. Sorry
it is so long in this format.

BTW Paul, the 'Conference' tomorrow is the reveal of the actual
reconstructed head at the Society of Antiquities ( see below)

cheers

Jac

*******************

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 4 February 2013
GREYFRIARS HUMAN REMAINS
CONFIRMED AS RICHARD III

" Richard III Society hails news as a unique moment in history'
" Society claims news is spine-tingling', the stuff of legend'
and an emotional link to a bygone age'
" Will inspire a renaissance in the study of the life and times of
Richard III and the re-writing of history
" Calls to end the lazy acquiescence with the Tudor and
Shakespearean myths' about the king

Today's news confirmed what until this morning members of the Richard
III Society had hardly dared believe, that
the Greyfriars human remains are indeed those of Richard Plantagenet,
the fifteenth-century English king, known
to most as Richard III: the last warrior king of England.
This is a unique moment in history. Richard III has been found and
can now be given a reinterment with dignity
and solemnity, something denied him these last 500 or more years. Also,
when the facial reconstruction is revealed,
which will be spine-tingling, people will see the face of the man so
badly used by history. Maybe, now that people
can see that Richard III was a human being, not a monster, they will
stop knocking his reputation and give the truth
a chance to come out. Congratulations to Philippa Langley for her
determination to see this project through.
Thanks, too, to the scientific team at Leicester University for all that
they have achieved. Good King Richard can be
laid to rest at last.

Dr Phil Stone, Chairman, Richard III Society
The discovery of King Richard III is nothing short of miraculous, an
emotional link to a bygone age. This historic
moment represents the culmination of an extraordinary four year quest to
uncover the real Richard III. Today that
dream has been realised. To those around the world who saved the
Greyfriars dig from disaster and cancellation,
you gave us our mandate when you said: Search for him, find him,
honour him'. It is now time to fulfil this mandate
and honour this much maligned monarch with a reburial that befits a
king, and a total reassessment of his life and
times. This is the stuff of legends.'

Philippa Langley, Originator of the Looking for Richard' project
This is an exciting and wonderful outcome from the DNA perspective.
However, we must remember that DNA
alone can NEVER prove someone's identity. It can only DISPROVE
identity (if you get a mismatch). This exciting
DNA match indicates that the Leicester male is related in some way to
the female-line descendants of Richard III's
sister, Anne of York. By itself, that is extremely suggestive. When we
combine that with all the other circumstantial
evidence available  such as the date of his death, the location in
which his remains were found, the fact that he was
male, the evidence of his high social class, and the compelling evidence
of the circumstances in which death
occurred, together with the evidence relating to his physical
appearance, we are confronted with overwhelming
evidence that the male remains from the Greyfriars are indeed those of
Richard III

Dr John Ashdown-Hill, Historian
The Richard III Society has been working since 1924 to secure a
reassessment of King Richard's place in English
history and to challenge the myths that surround his life and
reputation.

The project to search for King Richard III's final resting place was
driven largely by two members of the Society,
Philippa Langley and Dr John Ashdown-Hill. Philippa, a screenwriter who
is secretary of the Society's Scottish
Branch, conceived the project and worked unaided for several years
before approaching the Society for support. Dr.
Ashdown-Hill contributed the background research into the location of
the Grey Friars and discovered King
Richard's mtDNA that confirmed the identification of the human remains.

Until last summer, the location of King Richard's remains was one of
the most hotly debated issues in English
history; he was the last English king to die in battle and reports of
what happened to his remains became muddled
over the subsequent 500 years. As a defeated king Richard suffered at
the hands of those who had deposed him and
his reputation underwent claims of murder, physical deformity and
incompetence. But today's results offer a
tantalising opportunity to set the record straight over the king's
reputation and encourage further research into his
life and times. Historical justice for Richard III is long overdue.
Thanks to the efforts of the Richard III Society, and all those involved
with the recent dig, the project to find King
Richard's remains has now yielded results that few would dare have
dreamt of. Our understanding of this period of
English history will be the better for it.

Notes to Editors
TOMORROW, THE RICHARD III SOCIETY WILL REVEAL THE FACE OF KING RICHARD
III FROM
A FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION UNDERTAKEN BY PROFESSOR CAROLINE WILKINSON OF
THE
UNIVERSITY OF DUNDEE.
THE RECONSTRUCTION, FUNDED BY THE RICHARD III SOCIETY, WILL BE UNVEILED
FOR THE
MEDIA.
WHERE: Society of Antiquaries
Burlington House, Piccadilly, London, W1J 0BE
WHEN: 10.00am - 11.00am
5 February 2013
Background

Richard III was an innovative king of England; initiatives such as the
Council of the North, an early example of
devolution, lasted until the mid-seventeenth century; his legal reforms
continued long after his death, with some still
embedded in our laws today. Noteworthy aspects of his reign include:
" being the first king to use English to swear his coronation oath and
to record acts of parliament.
" a commitment to fair play in the judicial system: his actions and
proclamations stressing that his laws were
to be administered impartially without delay or favour, thereby helping
to establish the legal principle of
blind justice.'
" development of an early form of Legal Aid, which provided support
for those unable to afford lawyers by
allowing people to make direct petitions to the Royal Council. Under
Henry VII this became the Court of
Requests.
" introduction of bail, thereby initiating the legal principle of
presumption of innocence'.
" active encouragment of the fledging book printing industry, a policy
reflecting the king's own personal
interest in books

Isn't it possible the tooth was lost during the battle? Or that it simply rotted out over 500 years? I'm no dentist, Johanne, just asking!! Maire.

--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > Yes, the King is missing a tooth in front and several of his molars, which someone commented were probably lost due to dental caries. But still overall - I'm so used to seeing people with irregular teeth, I am sure he would have had a flashing smile. (smiley smiley face)
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I'm not sure about the dental caries. Would he have eaten subtleties and other desserts at anything other than the occasional banquet? Sugar use in England wasn't as widespread in Richard's time as it was in Elizabeth I's what with all those sugar plantations in the New World. Also, the other teeth seem to be in fine shape. (I'm still curious about the tiny molars. Or are wisdom teeth usually small? Mine were impacted and surgically removed when I was eighteen.)
>
> At any rate, the Society's new website says "Radiocarbon dating reveals individual had a high protein diet – including significant amounts of seafood - meaning he was likely to be of high status." That would be Lent and all those gifts of bream, sturgeon, and pike from the people of Yorkshire!
>
> http://www.richardiii.net/leicester_dig.php#facetime
>
> Carol
>

Jac,
Where will we be able to see this conference?
Vickie

From: jacqui <jacqui@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: Richard III Society's Press Release February 4th 2013

 

Evening Everyone in the World Wide Ricardian Family!!!

Here is the latest Press Release from the Society released today. Sorry
it is so long in this format.

BTW Paul, the 'Conference' tomorrow is the reveal of the actual
reconstructed head at the Society of Antiquities ( see below)

cheers

Jac

*******************

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 4 February 2013
GREYFRIARS HUMAN REMAINS
CONFIRMED AS RICHARD III

" Richard III Society hails news as a unique moment in history'
" Society claims news is spine-tingling', the stuff of legend'
and an emotional link to a bygone age'
" Will inspire a renaissance in the study of the life and times of
Richard III and the re-writing of history
" Calls to end the lazy acquiescence with the Tudor and
Shakespearean myths' about the king

Today's news confirmed what until this morning members of the Richard
III Society had hardly dared believe, that
the Greyfriars human remains are indeed those of Richard Plantagenet,
the fifteenth-century English king, known
to most as Richard III: the last warrior king of England.
This is a unique moment in history. Richard III has been found and
can now be given a reinterment with dignity
and solemnity, something denied him these last 500 or more years. Also,
when the facial reconstruction is revealed,
which will be spine-tingling, people will see the face of the man so
badly used by history. Maybe, now that people
can see that Richard III was a human being, not a monster, they will
stop knocking his reputation and give the truth
a chance to come out. Congratulations to Philippa Langley for her
determination to see this project through.
Thanks, too, to the scientific team at Leicester University for all that
they have achieved. Good King Richard can be
laid to rest at last.

Dr Phil Stone, Chairman, Richard III Society
The discovery of King Richard III is nothing short of miraculous, an
emotional link to a bygone age. This historic
moment represents the culmination of an extraordinary four year quest to
uncover the real Richard III. Today that
dream has been realised. To those around the world who saved the
Greyfriars dig from disaster and cancellation,
you gave us our mandate when you said: Search for him, find him,
honour him'. It is now time to fulfil this mandate
and honour this much maligned monarch with a reburial that befits a
king, and a total reassessment of his life and
times. This is the stuff of legends.'

Philippa Langley, Originator of the Looking for Richard' project
This is an exciting and wonderful outcome from the DNA perspective.
However, we must remember that DNA
alone can NEVER prove someone's identity. It can only DISPROVE
identity (if you get a mismatch). This exciting
DNA match indicates that the Leicester male is related in some way to
the female-line descendants of Richard III's
sister, Anne of York. By itself, that is extremely suggestive. When we
combine that with all the other circumstantial
evidence available  such as the date of his death, the location in
which his remains were found, the fact that he was
male, the evidence of his high social class, and the compelling evidence
of the circumstances in which death
occurred, together with the evidence relating to his physical
appearance, we are confronted with overwhelming
evidence that the male remains from the Greyfriars are indeed those of
Richard III

Dr John Ashdown-Hill, Historian
The Richard III Society has been working since 1924 to secure a
reassessment of King Richard's place in English
history and to challenge the myths that surround his life and
reputation.

The project to search for King Richard III's final resting place was
driven largely by two members of the Society,
Philippa Langley and Dr John Ashdown-Hill. Philippa, a screenwriter who
is secretary of the Society's Scottish
Branch, conceived the project and worked unaided for several years
before approaching the Society for support. Dr.
Ashdown-Hill contributed the background research into the location of
the Grey Friars and discovered King
Richard's mtDNA that confirmed the identification of the human remains.

Until last summer, the location of King Richard's remains was one of
the most hotly debated issues in English
history; he was the last English king to die in battle and reports of
what happened to his remains became muddled
over the subsequent 500 years. As a defeated king Richard suffered at
the hands of those who had deposed him and
his reputation underwent claims of murder, physical deformity and
incompetence. But today's results offer a
tantalising opportunity to set the record straight over the king's
reputation and encourage further research into his
life and times. Historical justice for Richard III is long overdue.
Thanks to the efforts of the Richard III Society, and all those involved
with the recent dig, the project to find King
Richard's remains has now yielded results that few would dare have
dreamt of. Our understanding of this period of
English history will be the better for it.

Notes to Editors
TOMORROW, THE RICHARD III SOCIETY WILL REVEAL THE FACE OF KING RICHARD
III FROM
A FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION UNDERTAKEN BY PROFESSOR CAROLINE WILKINSON OF
THE
UNIVERSITY OF DUNDEE.
THE RECONSTRUCTION, FUNDED BY THE RICHARD III SOCIETY, WILL BE UNVEILED
FOR THE
MEDIA.
WHERE: Society of Antiquaries
Burlington House, Piccadilly, London, W1J 0BE
WHEN: 10.00am - 11.00am
5 February 2013
Background

Richard III was an innovative king of England; initiatives such as the
Council of the North, an early example of
devolution, lasted until the mid-seventeenth century; his legal reforms
continued long after his death, with some still
embedded in our laws today. Noteworthy aspects of his reign include:
" being the first king to use English to swear his coronation oath and
to record acts of parliament.
" a commitment to fair play in the judicial system: his actions and
proclamations stressing that his laws were
to be administered impartially without delay or favour, thereby helping
to establish the legal principle of
blind justice.'
" development of an early form of Legal Aid, which provided support
for those unable to afford lawyers by
allowing people to make direct petitions to the Royal Council. Under
Henry VII this became the Court of
Requests.
" introduction of bail, thereby initiating the legal principle of
presumption of innocence'.
" active encouragment of the fledging book printing industry, a policy
reflecting the king's own personal
interest in books

Would it be possible that maybe the good Friars had to be quick before something worse was done to Richard's body? And the shroud, maybe it just mouldered away? Have they spoken to any fibers? I heard tiles, walls, metals and bones but no fabric at all.

On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:32 AM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb@...>> wrote:



And I dont know why they could not have given him a shroud....even poor people were buried in shrouds...Maybe there was a reason which has been lost to us now. Even the grave was not long enough...that is why his head was propped up a little...Was it all rushed for some reason?

Why they were allowed to treat the body of a fallen annointed king is awful. I noticed that nothing was said about the arrow?

By the way Carol..you mean London Bridge :0)
Eileen

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> eileen bates wrote:
> >
> > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> >
> > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Dear God. This is making me sick. They treated him like a felon. I suppose we should be grateful that they didn't mount his head on the Tower Bridge! You'd think that the monks would at least have untied his hands before they buried him in a place of honor.
>
> Carol
>

Pamela: I think the hasty burial of Richard was because the friars were scared to death of Henry the VII - creep that he was. I, for one, now firmly believe in the myth that the White Boar Inn was quickly changed to the Blue Boar Inn.

Happily, the romantic in me, will return to "We Speak no Treason," where Richard is buried with great love and kindness - as he should have been. Maire.

--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Would it be possible that maybe the good Friars had to be quick before something worse was done to Richard's body? And the shroud, maybe it just mouldered away? Have they spoken to any fibers? I heard tiles, walls, metals and bones but no fabric at all.
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:32 AM, "EileenB" > wrote:
>
>
>
> And I dont know why they could not have given him a shroud....even poor people were buried in shrouds...Maybe there was a reason which has been lost to us now. Even the grave was not long enough...that is why his head was propped up a little...Was it all rushed for some reason?
>
> Why they were allowed to treat the body of a fallen annointed king is awful. I noticed that nothing was said about the arrow?
>
> By the way Carol..you mean London Bridge :0)
> Eileen
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> > >
> > > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > Dear God. This is making me sick. They treated him like a felon. I suppose we should be grateful that they didn't mount his head on the Tower Bridge! You'd think that the monks would at least have untied his hands before they buried him in a place of honor.
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I agree with you.... We know our shinola!

On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...<mailto:mairemulholland@...>> wrote:



Pamela: I think the hasty burial of Richard was because the friars were scared to death of Henry the VII - creep that he was. I, for one, now firmly believe in the myth that the White Boar Inn was quickly changed to the Blue Boar Inn.

Happily, the romantic in me, will return to "We Speak no Treason," where Richard is buried with great love and kindness - as he should have been. Maire.

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Would it be possible that maybe the good Friars had to be quick before something worse was done to Richard's body? And the shroud, maybe it just mouldered away? Have they spoken to any fibers? I heard tiles, walls, metals and bones but no fabric at all.
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:32 AM, "EileenB" > wrote:
>
>
>
> And I dont know why they could not have given him a shroud....even poor people were buried in shrouds...Maybe there was a reason which has been lost to us now. Even the grave was not long enough...that is why his head was propped up a little...Was it all rushed for some reason?
>
> Why they were allowed to treat the body of a fallen annointed king is awful. I noticed that nothing was said about the arrow?
>
> By the way Carol..you mean London Bridge :0)
> Eileen
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > eileen bates wrote:
> > >
> > > 10 wounds ...8 to skull...humiliation wounds also inflicted after death...one stab wound to buttock...probably after richard had been slung on the horse. Knife wounds to face..would not have been fatal...one to cheek..one to chin...Wow...his body really was treated like rubbish...
> > >
> > > Hands may have been tied at wrist when he was buried...
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > Dear God. This is making me sick. They treated him like a felon. I suppose we should be grateful that they didn't mount his head on the Tower Bridge! You'd think that the monks would at least have untied his hands before they buried him in a place of honor.
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Maire wrote:
>
> Pamela: I think the hasty burial of Richard was because the friars were scared to death of Henry the VII - creep that he was. I, for one, now firmly believe in the myth that the White Boar Inn was quickly changed to the Blue Boar Inn. [snip]

Carol responds:

I suspect that they wanted to get the body into the ground as soon as possible since Richard had been dead several days and, well, it must already have been decomposing. Possibly, the conducted the service even as they dug the grave. At least, they buried him in the choir as befitted a king.

Carol

I would never criticize those friars. They did a deeply humane act. Maire. P.S.: I'm just feeling sad hearing the details of his death and seeing his mortal remains. God bless him. I hope he is in a better place - or as the sybil in "I, Claudius" says: may he dream a different dream.

--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
>
>
> Maire wrote:
> >
> > Pamela: I think the hasty burial of Richard was because the friars were scared to death of Henry the VII - creep that he was. I, for one, now firmly believe in the myth that the White Boar Inn was quickly changed to the Blue Boar Inn. [snip]
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I suspect that they wanted to get the body into the ground as soon as possible since Richard had been dead several days and, well, it must already have been decomposing. Possibly, the conducted the service even as they dug the grave. At least, they buried him in the choir as befitted a king.
>
> Carol
>

Hi, Maire -



I don't recall seeing any suggestion as to how the front tooth was lost. It
was the molars that someone suggested might have been lost due to dental
caries. I agree with Carol, from what I know, there wouldn't have been as
much sugar in the diet then as later. On the other hand, if it wasn't due to
tooth decay you'd have to come up with another suggestion as to what caused
the tooth loss.



I believe that the person I was quoting was one of the people involved in
the investigation, possibly Ms. (Dr.?) Appleby. Whoever it was, believe me,
he/she would know more about the issue than I would!



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

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From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:16 PM
To:
Subject: Re: BBC News Skull picture





Isn't it possible the tooth was lost during the battle? Or that it simply
rotted out over 500 years? I'm no dentist, Johanne, just asking!! Maire.

--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Johanne Tournier wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > Yes, the King is missing a tooth in front and several of his molars,
which someone commented were probably lost due to dental caries. But still
overall - I'm so used to seeing people with irregular teeth, I am sure he
would have had a flashing smile. (smiley smiley face)
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I'm not sure about the dental caries. Would he have eaten subtleties and
other desserts at anything other than the occasional banquet? Sugar use in
England wasn't as widespread in Richard's time as it was in Elizabeth I's
what with all those sugar plantations in the New World. Also, the other
teeth seem to be in fine shape. (I'm still curious about the tiny molars. Or
are wisdom teeth usually small? Mine were impacted and surgically removed
when I was eighteen.)
>
> At any rate, the Society's new website says "Radiocarbon dating reveals
individual had a high protein diet - including significant amounts of
seafood - meaning he was likely to be of high status." That would be Lent
and all those gifts of bream, sturgeon, and pike from the people of
Yorkshire!
>
> http://www.richardiii.net/leicester_dig.php#facetime
>
> Carol
>

Hi Vickie

I don't think it will be 'live', I've not heard anything about it other
than what is in the press release.

The reconstruction was shown in the documentary tonight & will be up on
the website possibly tomorrow. I was struck by how young he looked....

cheers

Jac

In message <1360012567.32133.YahooMailNeo@...>,
Vickie Cook <lolettecook@...> writes
>Jac,
>Where will we be able to see this conference?
>Vickie
>
>From: jacqui <jacqui@...>
>To:
>Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 2:35 PM
>Subject: Richard III Society's Press
>Release February 4th 2013
>
> 
>
>Evening Everyone in the World Wide Ricardian Family!!!
>
>Here is the latest Press Release from the Society released today. Sorry
>it is so long in this format.
>
>BTW Paul, the 'Conference' tomorrow is the reveal of the actual
>reconstructed head at the Society of Antiquities ( see below)
>
>cheers
>
>Jac
>
>*******************
>
>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 4 February 2013
>GREYFRIARS HUMAN REMAINS
>CONFIRMED AS RICHARD III
>
>" Richard III Society hails news as a unique moment in history'
>" Society claims news is spine-tingling', the stuff of legend'
>and an emotional link to a bygone age'
>" Will inspire a renaissance in the study of the life and times of
>Richard III and the re-writing of history
>" Calls to end the lazy acquiescence with the Tudor and
>Shakespearean myths' about the king
>
>Today's news confirmed what until this morning members of the Richard
>III Society had hardly dared believe, that
>the Greyfriars human remains are indeed those of Richard Plantagenet,
>the fifteenth-century English king, known
>to most as Richard III: the last warrior king of England.
>This is a unique moment in history. Richard III has been found and
>can now be given a reinterment with dignity
>and solemnity, something denied him these last 500 or more years. Also,
>when the facial reconstruction is revealed,
>which will be spine-tingling, people will see the face of the man so
>badly used by history. Maybe, now that people
>can see that Richard III was a human being, not a monster, they will
>stop knocking his reputation and give the truth
>a chance to come out. Congratulations to Philippa Langley for her
>determination to see this project through.
>Thanks, too, to the scientific team at Leicester University for all that
>they have achieved. Good King Richard can be
>laid to rest at last.
>
>Dr Phil Stone, Chairman, Richard III Society
>The discovery of King Richard III is nothing short of miraculous, an
>emotional link to a bygone age. This historic
>moment represents the culmination of an extraordinary four year quest to
>uncover the real Richard III. Today that
>dream has been realised. To those around the world who saved the
>Greyfriars dig from disaster and cancellation,
>you gave us our mandate when you said: Search for him, find him,
>honour him'. It is now time to fulfil this mandate
>and honour this much maligned monarch with a reburial that befits a
>king, and a total reassessment of his life and
>times. This is the stuff of legends.'
>
>Philippa Langley, Originator of the Looking for Richard' project
>This is an exciting and wonderful outcome from the DNA perspective.
>However, we must remember that DNA
>alone can NEVER prove someone's identity. It can only DISPROVE
>identity (if you get a mismatch). This exciting
>DNA match indicates that the Leicester male is related in some way to
>the female-line descendants of Richard III's
>sister, Anne of York. By itself, that is extremely suggestive. When we
>combine that with all the other circumstantial
>evidence available  such as the date of his death, the location in
>which his remains were found, the fact that he was
>male, the evidence of his high social class, and the compelling evidence
>of the circumstances in which death
>occurred, together with the evidence relating to his physical
>appearance, we are confronted with overwhelming
>evidence that the male remains from the Greyfriars are indeed those of
>Richard III
>
>Dr John Ashdown-Hill, Historian
>The Richard III Society has been working since 1924 to secure a
>reassessment of King Richard's place in English
>history and to challenge the myths that surround his life and
>reputation.
>
>The project to search for King Richard III's final resting place was
>driven largely by two members of the Society,
>Philippa Langley and Dr John Ashdown-Hill. Philippa, a screenwriter who
>is secretary of the Society's Scottish
>Branch, conceived the project and worked unaided for several years
>before approaching the Society for support. Dr.
>Ashdown-Hill contributed the background research into the location of
>the Grey Friars and discovered King
>Richard's mtDNA that confirmed the identification of the human remains.
>
>Until last summer, the location of King Richard's remains was one of
>the most hotly debated issues in English
>history; he was the last English king to die in battle and reports of
>what happened to his remains became muddled
>over the subsequent 500 years. As a defeated king Richard suffered at
>the hands of those who had deposed him and
>his reputation underwent claims of murder, physical deformity and
>incompetence. But today's results offer a
>tantalising opportunity to set the record straight over the king's
>reputation and encourage further research into his
>life and times. Historical justice for Richard III is long overdue.
>Thanks to the efforts of the Richard III Society, and all those involved
>with the recent dig, the project to find King
>Richard's remains has now yielded results that few would dare have
>dreamt of. Our understanding of this period of
>English history will be the better for it.
>
>Notes to Editors
>TOMORROW, THE RICHARD III SOCIETY WILL REVEAL THE FACE OF KING RICHARD
>III FROM
>A FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION UNDERTAKEN BY PROFESSOR CAROLINE WILKINSON OF
>THE
>UNIVERSITY OF DUNDEE.
>THE RECONSTRUCTION, FUNDED BY THE RICHARD III SOCIETY, WILL BE UNVEILED
>FOR THE
>MEDIA.
>WHERE: Society of Antiquaries
>Burlington House, Piccadilly, London, W1J 0BE
>WHEN: 10.00am - 11.00am
>5 February 2013
>Background
>
>Richard III was an innovative king of England; initiatives such as the
>Council of the North, an early example of
>devolution, lasted until the mid-seventeenth century; his legal reforms
>continued long after his death, with some still
>embedded in our laws today. Noteworthy aspects of his reign include:
>" being the first king to use English to swear his coronation oath and
>to record acts of parliament.
>" a commitment to fair play in the judicial system: his actions and
>proclamations stressing that his laws were
>to be administered impartially without delay or favour, thereby helping
>to establish the legal principle of
>blind justice.'
>" development of an early form of Legal Aid, which provided support
>for those unable to afford lawyers by
>allowing people to make direct petitions to the Royal Council. Under
>Henry VII this became the Court of
>Requests.
>" introduction of bail, thereby initiating the legal principle of
>presumption of innocence'.
>" active encouragment of the fledging book printing industry, a policy
>reflecting the king's own personal
>interest in books
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Johanne Tournier wrote:
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> I don't recall seeing any suggestion as to how the front tooth was lost. [snip]


Carol responds:

In the chat that just aired, Philippa said, "He lost his tooth sometime in the grave, not in life. Look at her comment at 10:48.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57567393/britains-lost-king-richard-iii-lost-no-more/

Oddly, I didn't see the question she was responding to, but I definitely saw that answer!

Carol

Jac, you saw him??????? How does he look? Like any of his portraits???

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:57 PM, jacqui <jacqui@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Vickie
>
> I don't think it will be 'live', I've not heard anything about it other
> than what is in the press release.
>
> The reconstruction was shown in the documentary tonight & will be up on
> the website possibly tomorrow. I was struck by how young he looked....
>
> cheers
>
> Jac
>
> In message 1360012567.32133.YahooMailNeo@...>,
> Vickie Cook lolettecook@...> writes
> >Jac,
> >Where will we be able to see this conference?
> >Vickie
> >
> >From: jacqui jacqui@...>
> >To:
> >Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 2:35 PM
> >Subject: Richard III Society's Press
> >Release February 4th 2013
> >
> >
> >
> >Evening Everyone in the World Wide Ricardian Family!!!
> >
> >Here is the latest Press Release from the Society released today. Sorry
> >it is so long in this format.
> >
> >BTW Paul, the 'Conference' tomorrow is the reveal of the actual
> >reconstructed head at the Society of Antiquities ( see below)
> >
> >cheers
> >
> >Jac
> >
> >*******************
> >
> >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 4 February 2013
> >GREYFRIARS HUMAN REMAINS
> >CONFIRMED AS RICHARD III
> >
> >" Richard III Society hails news as a unique moment in history'
> >" Society claims news is spine-tingling', the stuff of legend'
> >and an emotional link to a bygone age'
> >" Will inspire a renaissance in the study of the life and times of
> >Richard III and the re-writing of history
> >" Calls to end the lazy acquiescence with the Tudor and
> >Shakespearean myths' about the king
> >
> >Today's news confirmed what until this morning members of the Richard
> >III Society had hardly dared believe, that
> >the Greyfriars human remains are indeed those of Richard Plantagenet,
> >the fifteenth-century English king, known
> >to most as Richard III: the last warrior king of England.
> >This is a unique moment in history. Richard III has been found and
> >can now be given a reinterment with dignity
> >and solemnity, something denied him these last 500 or more years. Also,
> >when the facial reconstruction is revealed,
> >which will be spine-tingling, people will see the face of the man so
> >badly used by history. Maybe, now that people
> >can see that Richard III was a human being, not a monster, they will
> >stop knocking his reputation and give the truth
> >a chance to come out. Congratulations to Philippa Langley for her
> >determination to see this project through.
> >Thanks, too, to the scientific team at Leicester University for all that
> >they have achieved. Good King Richard can be
> >laid to rest at last.
> >
> >Dr Phil Stone, Chairman, Richard III Society
> >The discovery of King Richard III is nothing short of miraculous, an
> >emotional link to a bygone age. This historic
> >moment represents the culmination of an extraordinary four year quest to
> >uncover the real Richard III. Today that
> >dream has been realised. To those around the world who saved the
> >Greyfriars dig from disaster and cancellation,
> >you gave us our mandate when you said: Search for him, find him,
> >honour him'. It is now time to fulfil this mandate
> >and honour this much maligned monarch with a reburial that befits a
> >king, and a total reassessment of his life and
> >times. This is the stuff of legends.'
> >
> >Philippa Langley, Originator of the Looking for Richard' project
> >This is an exciting and wonderful outcome from the DNA perspective.
> >However, we must remember that DNA
> >alone can NEVER prove someone's identity. It can only DISPROVE
> >identity (if you get a mismatch). This exciting
> >DNA match indicates that the Leicester male is related in some way to
> >the female-line descendants of Richard III's
> >sister, Anne of York. By itself, that is extremely suggestive. When we
> >combine that with all the other circumstantial
> >evidence available  such as the date of his death, the location in
> >which his remains were found, the fact that he was
> >male, the evidence of his high social class, and the compelling evidence
> >of the circumstances in which death
> >occurred, together with the evidence relating to his physical
> >appearance, we are confronted with overwhelming
> >evidence that the male remains from the Greyfriars are indeed those of
> >Richard III
> >
> >Dr John Ashdown-Hill, Historian
> >The Richard III Society has been working since 1924 to secure a
> >reassessment of King Richard's place in English
> >history and to challenge the myths that surround his life and
> >reputation.
> >
> >The project to search for King Richard III's final resting place was
> >driven largely by two members of the Society,
> >Philippa Langley and Dr John Ashdown-Hill. Philippa, a screenwriter who
> >is secretary of the Society's Scottish
> >Branch, conceived the project and worked unaided for several years
> >before approaching the Society for support. Dr.
> >Ashdown-Hill contributed the background research into the location of
> >the Grey Friars and discovered King
> >Richard's mtDNA that confirmed the identification of the human remains.
> >
> >Until last summer, the location of King Richard's remains was one of
> >the most hotly debated issues in English
> >history; he was the last English king to die in battle and reports of
> >what happened to his remains became muddled
> >over the subsequent 500 years. As a defeated king Richard suffered at
> >the hands of those who had deposed him and
> >his reputation underwent claims of murder, physical deformity and
> >incompetence. But today's results offer a
> >tantalising opportunity to set the record straight over the king's
> >reputation and encourage further research into his
> >life and times. Historical justice for Richard III is long overdue.
> >Thanks to the efforts of the Richard III Society, and all those involved
> >with the recent dig, the project to find King
> >Richard's remains has now yielded results that few would dare have
> >dreamt of. Our understanding of this period of
> >English history will be the better for it.
> >
> >Notes to Editors
> >TOMORROW, THE RICHARD III SOCIETY WILL REVEAL THE FACE OF KING RICHARD
> >III FROM
> >A FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION UNDERTAKEN BY PROFESSOR CAROLINE WILKINSON OF
> >THE
> >UNIVERSITY OF DUNDEE.
> >THE RECONSTRUCTION, FUNDED BY THE RICHARD III SOCIETY, WILL BE UNVEILED
> >FOR THE
> >MEDIA.
> >WHERE: Society of Antiquaries
> >Burlington House, Piccadilly, London, W1J 0BE
> >WHEN: 10.00am - 11.00am
> >5 February 2013
> >Background
> >
> >Richard III was an innovative king of England; initiatives such as the
> >Council of the North, an early example of
> >devolution, lasted until the mid-seventeenth century; his legal reforms
> >continued long after his death, with some still
> >embedded in our laws today. Noteworthy aspects of his reign include:
> >" being the first king to use English to swear his coronation oath and
> >to record acts of parliament.
> >" a commitment to fair play in the judicial system: his actions and
> >proclamations stressing that his laws were
> >to be administered impartially without delay or favour, thereby helping
> >to establish the legal principle of
> >blind justice.'
> >" development of an early form of Legal Aid, which provided support
> >for those unable to afford lawyers by
> >allowing people to make direct petitions to the Royal Council. Under
> >Henry VII this became the Court of
> >Requests.
> >" introduction of bail, thereby initiating the legal principle of
> >presumption of innocence'.
> >" active encouragment of the fledging book printing industry, a policy
> >reflecting the king's own personal
> >interest in books
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
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> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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