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Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???

Hell that mde me laugh!    Who?  where?  Which fucker?  what are you watching?
 
Liz

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Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!

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Am at work so can't watch really.  I shouldn't even be doing this - I have done bugger all today (workwise that is) but have to get my priorities right.
 
Liz
 
 
 

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Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!

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Where is everyone watching all these things? I can't seem to find anything other than the basic news!




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Am at work so can't watch really.  I shouldn't even be doing this - I have done bugger all today (workwise that is) but have to get my priorities right.
 
Liz
 
 
 

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Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!

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Yep.....he definitely is one of them for sure....Eileen

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Lol...he also says that the Society i.e..us.. think that Truth is the Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey is actual history.....What a Plonker....! Eileen:0)

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It was someone called Dan Jones, never heard of him before this. I have rung the BBC to point out his error and suggested that he read "Maligned King" and "Eleanor the Secret Queen". He kept saying that Richard had usurped the throne.

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Lol...

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Why bother when out of their own mouths comes rubbish

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On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "ricard1an" <maryfriend@...> wrote:

> It was someone called Dan Jones, never heard of him before this. I have rung the BBC to point out his error and suggested that he read "Maligned King" and "Eleanor the Secret Queen". He kept saying that Richard had usurped the throne.
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Ooooooops sorry I thought Blanc was talking about the article in the Guardian by Paul Lay..Editor of History Today...

Well...he is another one anyway.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/04/digging-richard-iii-old-arguments

Eileen

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?




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On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "ricard1an" maryfriend@...> wrote:

> It was someone called Dan Jones, never heard of him before this. I have rung the BBC to point out his error and suggested that he read "Maligned King" and "Eleanor the Secret Queen". He kept saying that Richard had usurped the throne.
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> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
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> > Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!
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That wasn't good either. Sky News is a lot more factual. Pleasantly surprised.

Mary

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> Well...he is another one anyway.....
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/04/digging-richard-iii-old-arguments
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> --- In , "ricard1an" wrote:
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Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
Elaine


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I am now spelling phonetically - it should have been buying.
Elaine

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Oh God...just remembered who this daftie is...I bought his book The Tower...a history of the Tower of London, read the part about the Princes and promptly sent it back to Amazon for a refund. This is something I rarely do but it really was crap. It said something on the lines of the bones in the urn were defo the princes as one of the jaws is diseased and Prince Edward had a disease of his jaw because his doctor said so. Dr Argentine said nothing of the sort..he merely reported that Prince Edward was feeling depressed.....This Jones bloke is really a clown..Eileen
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He was fighting on foot when the fatal blow fell. Some of the wounds were inflicted after he was dead and had been stripped of his armour. Disgusting behaviour by Tudor supporters.
Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!




On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:08, Ishita Bandyo wrote:

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?
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>> It was someone called Dan Jones, never heard of him before this. I have rung the BBC to point out his error and suggested that he read "Maligned King" and "Eleanor the Secret Queen". He kept saying that Richard had usurped the throne.
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>>> Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!
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Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
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> Elaine
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It was after all a medieval battle and not 'Come Dancing' wars are neither gentle, humane nor run by the Marquis of Queensburry.

George
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On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> He was fighting on foot when the fatal blow fell. Some of the wounds were inflicted after he was dead and had been stripped of his armour. Disgusting behaviour by Tudor supporters.
> Paul
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> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:08, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
>> Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?
>>
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>> ________________________________
>> From: George Butterfield <gbutterf1@...>
>> To: "" <>
>> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
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>> Why bother when out of their own mouths comes rubbish
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>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "ricard1an" maryfriend@...> wrote:
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>>> It was someone called Dan Jones, never heard of him before this. I have rung the BBC to point out his error and suggested that he read "Maligned King" and "Eleanor the Secret Queen". He kept saying that Richard had usurped the throne.
>>>
>>> --- In , "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
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>>>> Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!
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First I saw was on an exercise bike at he gym. Looked up to see a screen with the news tuned in and saw pictures of the skull and grave. No sound, but of course I realized what the story was. 

I do hope the publicity will push old Beth into ordering a full exam of Eric and Urnie, as well as the collection in Winchester Cathedral.


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Where is everyone watching all these things? I can't seem to find anything other than the basic news!

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Am at work so can't watch really.  I shouldn't even be doing this - I have done bugger all today (workwise that is) but have to get my priorities right.
 
Liz
 
 
 

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Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!

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"Plantagenets".

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Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!

On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:

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> Elaine
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Eric and Urnie...priceless! :0)
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> I do hope the publicity will push old Beth into ordering a full exam of Eric and Urnie, as well as the collection in Winchester Cathedral.
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> To: ">
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
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> Am at work so can't watch really. I shouldn't even be doing this - I have done bugger all today (workwise that is) but have to get my priorities right.
>
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> From: blancsanglier1452 blancsanglier1452@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:46
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
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> Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!
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Richard was on an exercise bike at the gym?
----- Original Message -----
From: david rayner
To:
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: BBC reporting



First I saw was on an exercise bike at he gym. Looked up to see a screen with the news tuned in and saw pictures of the skull and grave. No sound, but of course I realized what the story was.

I do hope the publicity will push old Beth into ordering a full exam of Eric and Urnie, as well as the collection in Winchester Cathedral.

________________________________
From: Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...>
To: "" >
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:53
Subject: Re: BBC reporting



Where is everyone watching all these things? I can't seem to find anything other than the basic news!

________________________________
From: liz williams ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: ">
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: BBC reporting


Am at work so can't watch really. I shouldn't even be doing this - I have done bugger all today (workwise that is) but have to get my priorities right.

Liz




From: blancsanglier1452 blancsanglier1452@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:46
Subject: Re: BBC reporting


Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
>
> Hell that mde me laugh!  Who? where? Which fucker? what are you watching?
> Â
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> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
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Lol...Kind of sad day in some ways...but if we didnt have a sense of humour we may as well croak it...Eileen

--- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Richard was on an exercise bike at the gym?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david rayner
> To:
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:37 PM
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
>
> First I saw was on an exercise bike at he gym. Looked up to see a screen with the news tuned in and saw pictures of the skull and grave. No sound, but of course I realized what the story was.
>
> I do hope the publicity will push old Beth into ordering a full exam of Eric and Urnie, as well as the collection in Winchester Cathedral.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...>
> To: "" >
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:53
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
>
> Where is everyone watching all these things? I can't seem to find anything other than the basic news!
>
> ________________________________
> From: liz williams ferrymansdaughter@...>
> To: "@[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
> Am at work so can't watch really. I shouldn't even be doing this - I have done bugger all today (workwise that is) but have to get my priorities right.
>
> Liz
>
>
>
>
> From: blancsanglier1452 blancsanglier1452@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:46
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
> Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> >
> > Hell that mde me laugh!  Who? where? Which fucker? what are you watching?
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Oh heck - I bought the hardback of his book about the Plantaganets (stops in 1399).  i haven't read it yet


________________________________
From: ellrosa1452 <kathryn198@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 17:29
Subject: Re: BBC reporting

 

Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
Elaine

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
>
> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
>

According to the blurb on his book he has a first in History from Pembroke College , Cambridge (Pembroke? Hmmm)
and a blog summerofblood.com


________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 18:30
Subject: Re: Re: BBC reporting

 
Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
Paul

Richard Liveth Yet!

On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:

>
> Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
> Elaine
>
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
>>
>> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
>>
>
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I bought his book The Tower because of the good reviews...

I think it is a massive mistake for a historian to make re Prince Edward having a disease of the jaw..to those that do not know that this is completely wrong could be led into believing that this proved that these bones are indeed the bones of the princes and being found where they were the probably murderer was Richard..Its hardly rocket science is it to get the facts that we do know correct..Its so careless and he is making money from misleading readers...Eileen
On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:30, liz williams wrote:

> According to the blurb on his book he has a first in History from Pembroke College , Cambridge (Pembroke? Hmmm)
> and a blog summerofblood.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 18:30
> Subject: Re: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
> Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:
>
> >
> > Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
> >>
> >> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
> >>
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Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?

Carol responds:

All the reports I've seen say that either or both of the wounds to his head would have caused him to lose consciousness instantly, and if the larger wound was more than seven centimeters deep (they can't tell that from the skull), it would have killed him instantly. If he felt any pain, I would guess that it was from the arrow to the back, which no one seems to be mentioning. Of course, I don't have access to any radio reports and aside from CBS, curse them, I haven't seen anything on TV, either. Online coverage is everywhere, but the only videos I've seen are the Richard Buckley one and the official "it's him" announcement.

Glad I work at home so no one can see how little work I'm actually doing!

Carol

Carol, I was just thinking that! I have done squat today!! I would be fired if I worked for someone else! Good to be your own boss :)

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2013, at 2:42 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:

> Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> > Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> All the reports I've seen say that either or both of the wounds to his head would have caused him to lose consciousness instantly, and if the larger wound was more than seven centimeters deep (they can't tell that from the skull), it would have killed him instantly. If he felt any pain, I would guess that it was from the arrow to the back, which no one seems to be mentioning. Of course, I don't have access to any radio reports and aside from CBS, curse them, I haven't seen anything on TV, either. Online coverage is everywhere, but the only videos I've seen are the Richard Buckley one and the official "it's him" announcement.
>
> Glad I work at home so no one can see how little work I'm actually doing!
>
> Carol
>
>

I agree with the work bit, I am trying to program and every 3 seconds my
e-mail bings! Not only buddies from R3 Soc. but friends in New Zealand and
the USA who want to tell me about it....... today is far more interesting
than a B!#!!y interactive spread sheet.

G



From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of justcarol67
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:42 PM
To:
Subject: Re: BBC reporting





Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was
so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet
and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to
hope for?

Carol responds:

All the reports I've seen say that either or both of the wounds to his head
would have caused him to lose consciousness instantly, and if the larger
wound was more than seven centimeters deep (they can't tell that from the
skull), it would have killed him instantly. If he felt any pain, I would
guess that it was from the arrow to the back, which no one seems to be
mentioning. Of course, I don't have access to any radio reports and aside
from CBS, curse them, I haven't seen anything on TV, either. Online coverage
is everywhere, but the only videos I've seen are the Richard Buckley one and
the official "it's him" announcement.

Glad I work at home so no one can see how little work I'm actually doing!

Carol

I only listened to bits this morning as I was at work but I'm sure they said the arrow was something to do with Romans and already there when Richard was buried. 



________________________________
From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 19:42
Subject: Re: BBC reporting

 
Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?

Carol responds:

All the reports I've seen say that either or both of the wounds to his head would have caused him to lose consciousness instantly, and if the larger wound was more than seven centimeters deep (they can't tell that from the skull), it would have killed him instantly. If he felt any pain, I would guess that it was from the arrow to the back, which no one seems to be mentioning. Of course, I don't have access to any radio reports and aside from CBS, curse them, I haven't seen anything on TV, either. Online coverage is everywhere, but the only videos I've seen are the Richard Buckley one and the official "it's him" announcement.

Glad I work at home so no one can see how little work I'm actually doing!

Carol

The bones were where More said they were buried BEFORE BEING LATER MOVED. People quoting More always seem to miss the second part, don't they?
Paul



Richard Liveth Yet!

On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:38, eileen bates wrote:

> I bought his book The Tower because of the good reviews...
>
> I think it is a massive mistake for a historian to make re Prince Edward having a disease of the jaw..to those that do not know that this is completely wrong could be led into believing that this proved that these bones are indeed the bones of the princes and being found where they were the probably murderer was Richard..Its hardly rocket science is it to get the facts that we do know correct..Its so careless and he is making money from misleading readers...Eileen
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:30, liz williams wrote:
>
>> According to the blurb on his book he has a first in History from Pembroke College , Cambridge (Pembroke? Hmmm)
>> and a blog summerofblood.com
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 18:30
>> Subject: Re: Re: BBC reporting
>>
>>
>> Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
>> Paul
>>
>> Richard Liveth Yet!
>>
>> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
>>> Elaine
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Yep....it is a tragedy that More should say the bodies were buried underneath some stairs and later bones were found in such a spot...and of course everyone completely forgets that More also said the bodies were later on moved....

It seems everything in life today has been dumbed down and this includes some historians...they really do seem to be second rate. Eileen

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> The bones were where More said they were buried BEFORE BEING LATER MOVED. People quoting More always seem to miss the second part, don't they?
> Paul
>
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:38, eileen bates wrote:
>
> > I bought his book The Tower because of the good reviews...
> >
> > I think it is a massive mistake for a historian to make re Prince Edward having a disease of the jaw..to those that do not know that this is completely wrong could be led into believing that this proved that these bones are indeed the bones of the princes and being found where they were the probably murderer was Richard..Its hardly rocket science is it to get the facts that we do know correct..Its so careless and he is making money from misleading readers...Eileen
> > On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:30, liz williams wrote:
> >
> >> According to the blurb on his book he has a first in History from Pembroke College , Cambridge (Pembroke? Hmmm)
> >> and a blog summerofblood.com
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 18:30
> >> Subject: Re: Re: BBC reporting
> >>
> >>
> >> Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> >>
> >> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
> >>> Elaine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
> >>>>
> >>>
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Well not everyone...but mostly the traditionalists and some historian who should know better..Eileen

--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
>
> Yep....it is a tragedy that More should say the bodies were buried underneath some stairs and later bones were found in such a spot...and of course everyone completely forgets that More also said the bodies were later on moved....
>
> It seems everything in life today has been dumbed down and this includes some historians...they really do seem to be second rate. Eileen
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > The bones were where More said they were buried BEFORE BEING LATER MOVED. People quoting More always seem to miss the second part, don't they?
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
> > On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:38, eileen bates wrote:
> >
> > > I bought his book The Tower because of the good reviews...
> > >
> > > I think it is a massive mistake for a historian to make re Prince Edward having a disease of the jaw..to those that do not know that this is completely wrong could be led into believing that this proved that these bones are indeed the bones of the princes and being found where they were the probably murderer was Richard..Its hardly rocket science is it to get the facts that we do know correct..Its so careless and he is making money from misleading readers...Eileen
> > > On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:30, liz williams wrote:
> > >
> > >> According to the blurb on his book he has a first in History from Pembroke College , Cambridge (Pembroke? Hmmm)
> > >> and a blog summerofblood.com
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@>
> > >> To:
> > >> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 18:30
> > >> Subject: Re: Re: BBC reporting
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> > >>
> > >> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
> > >>> Elaine
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
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Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> The bones were where More said they were buried BEFORE BEING LATER MOVED. People quoting More always seem to miss the second part, don't they?
> Paul

Carol responds:

Not even that. "At the foot of the stairs meetly deep in the ground under a great heap of stones" (quoting from memory so may be slightly off) is not the same as ten feet deep under the *foundations* of a staircase. No one could have carried that off secretly even if it could be done without removing the staircase (as was done when those bones were found). It's only superficially similar (like a crooked spine from scoliosis and a hunchback from kyphosis).

But More not only moves the burial to a less profane location, he later says that the boys may not have been murdered at all. No one pays attention to *that* part, either.

Carol

Carol

.......... except that the later bones weren't necessarily found there!

----- Original Message -----
From: EileenB
To:
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: BBC reporting



Yep....it is a tragedy that More should say the bodies were buried underneath some stairs and later bones were found in such a spot...and of course everyone completely forgets that More also said the bodies were later on moved....

It seems everything in life today has been dumbed down and this includes some historians...they really do seem to be second rate. Eileen

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> The bones were where More said they were buried BEFORE BEING LATER MOVED. People quoting More always seem to miss the second part, don't they?
> Paul
>
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:38, eileen bates wrote:
>
> > I bought his book The Tower because of the good reviews...
> >
> > I think it is a massive mistake for a historian to make re Prince Edward having a disease of the jaw..to those that do not know that this is completely wrong could be led into believing that this proved that these bones are indeed the bones of the princes and being found where they were the probably murderer was Richard..Its hardly rocket science is it to get the facts that we do know correct..Its so careless and he is making money from misleading readers...Eileen
> > On 4 Feb 2013, at 19:30, liz williams wrote:
> >
> >> According to the blurb on his book he has a first in History from Pembroke College , Cambridge (Pembroke? Hmmm)
> >> and a blog summerofblood.com
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 18:30
> >> Subject: Re: Re: BBC reporting
> >>
> >>
> >> Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> Richard Liveth Yet!
> >>
> >> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
> >>> Elaine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
> >>>>
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I have been crazy busy today, so have to go through a lot. But, I find there are a lots of those f___kers put there who don't know, as my grandfather said "shit from shinola"! They sound pompous, and have lots of opinions but have only a couple of molecules of actual knowledge!
I am quite impressed with those of you who know your stuff. It is with relish that I go through the emails.
Hugs to all


On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb@...>> wrote:



Yep.....he definitely is one of them for sure....Eileen

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, liz williams wrote:
>
> Hell that mde me laugh!ý ý Who?ý where?ý Which fucker?ý what are you watching?
> ý
> Liz
>
> From: blancsanglier1452
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:32
> Subject: BBC reporting
>
> ý
> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
>
>
>
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Hey Pamela,
 
I like the sound of your Grandfather!
 
Liz


________________________________
From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 21:24
Subject: Re: BBC reporting

I have been crazy busy today, so have to go through a lot. But, I find there are a lots of those f___kers put there who don't know, as my grandfather said "shit from shinola"! They sound pompous, and have lots of opinions but have only a couple of molecules of actual knowledge!
I am quite impressed with those of you who know your stuff. It is with relish that I go through the emails.
Hugs to all


On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb@...>> wrote:



Yep.....he definitely is one of them for sure....Eileen

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, liz williams wrote:
>
> Hell that mde me laugh!    Who?  where?  Which fucker?  what are you watching?
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Don't think so unless the Romans were at Bosworth it was impaled in his back!
G

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On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:00 PM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

> I only listened to bits this morning as I was at work but I'm sure they said the arrow was something to do with Romans and already there when Richard was buried.
>
> ________________________________
> From: justcarol67 justcarol67@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 19:42
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
> Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> > Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> All the reports I've seen say that either or both of the wounds to his head would have caused him to lose consciousness instantly, and if the larger wound was more than seven centimeters deep (they can't tell that from the skull), it would have killed him instantly. If he felt any pain, I would guess that it was from the arrow to the back, which no one seems to be mentioning. Of course, I don't have access to any radio reports and aside from CBS, curse them, I haven't seen anything on TV, either. Online coverage is everywhere, but the only videos I've seen are the Richard Buckley one and the official "it's him" announcement.
>
> Glad I work at home so no one can see how little work I'm actually doing!
>
> Carol
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My thought was "Blimey, they did a damn fine job on him if he is already in the gym"!

On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:05 PM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb@...>> wrote:



Lol...Kind of sad day in some ways...but if we didnt have a sense of humour we may as well croak it...Eileen

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
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> Richard was on an exercise bike at the gym?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david rayner
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:37 PM
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
>
> First I saw was on an exercise bike at he gym. Looked up to see a screen with the news tuned in and saw pictures of the skull and grave. No sound, but of course I realized what the story was.
>
> I do hope the publicity will push old Beth into ordering a full exam of Eric and Urnie, as well as the collection in Winchester Cathedral.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...>
> To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:53
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> Where is everyone watching all these things? I can't seem to find anything other than the basic news!
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> To: "@[email protected]<http://yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: BBC reporting
>
>
> Am at work so can't watch really. I shouldn't even be doing this - I have done bugger all today (workwise that is) but have to get my priorities right.
>
> Liz
>
>
>
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> From: blancsanglier1452 blancsanglier1452@...>
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 16:46
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>
>
> Heh apologies for speaking as I was thinkg-! BBC News 24 I think, it's some young fellow who reckons the Tudors 'only defamed R3's reputation because he [R3] had usurped the throne', rather than to justify their own weak claim. =F*cker!!!
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Adverts on...it was NOT an arrow...but a nail...! Eileen

--- In , George Butterfield wrote:
>
> Don't think so unless the Romans were at Bosworth it was impaled in his back!
> G
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:00 PM, liz williams wrote:
>
> > I only listened to bits this morning as I was at work but I'm sure they said the arrow was something to do with Romans and already there when Richard was buried.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: justcarol67 justcarol67@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 19:42
> > Subject: Re: BBC reporting
> >
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> > > Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > All the reports I've seen say that either or both of the wounds to his head would have caused him to lose consciousness instantly, and if the larger wound was more than seven centimeters deep (they can't tell that from the skull), it would have killed him instantly. If he felt any pain, I would guess that it was from the arrow to the back, which no one seems to be mentioning. Of course, I don't have access to any radio reports and aside from CBS, curse them, I haven't seen anything on TV, either. Online coverage is everywhere, but the only videos I've seen are the Richard Buckley one and the official "it's him" announcement.
> >
> > Glad I work at home so no one can see how little work I'm actually doing!
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
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He had a saying for everything!

On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:29 PM, "liz williams" <ferrymansdaughter@...<mailto:ferrymansdaughter@...>> wrote:



Hey Pamela,

I like the sound of your Grandfather!

Liz

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From: Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>>
To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 21:24
Subject: Re: BBC reporting

I have been crazy busy today, so have to go through a lot. But, I find there are a lots of those f___kers put there who don't know, as my grandfather said "shit from shinola"! They sound pompous, and have lots of opinions but have only a couple of molecules of actual knowledge!
I am quite impressed with those of you who know your stuff. It is with relish that I go through the emails.
Hugs to all

On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, "EileenB" cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb%40googlemail.com>cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb%40googlemail.com>>> wrote:

Yep.....he definitely is one of them for sure....Eileen

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, liz williams wrote:
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> Â
> Liz
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> Subject: BBC reporting
>
> Â
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&Long after everyone else has gone home, Jo and Mathew continue to carefully remove the skeleton, bagging and labelling each bone. As the last bones are lifted, one final discovery is made: a piece of rusted iron, possibly part of a weapon, beneath two of the vertebrae. The skull, lower jaw and right femur, which will be used for DNA sampling, are wrapped in baking foil. Finally, with the sun setting, everything is loaded into the van, the gates are locked, and the mortal remains of Richard III bid farewell to the Church of the Grey Friars after 527 undisturbed years.
This was taken from the field notes
George
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On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:52 PM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:

> Adverts on...it was NOT an arrow...but a nail...! Eileen
>
> --- In , George Butterfield wrote:
> >
> > Don't think so unless the Romans were at Bosworth it was impaled in his back!
> > G
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:00 PM, liz williams wrote:
> >
> > > I only listened to bits this morning as I was at work but I'm sure they said the arrow was something to do with Romans and already there when Richard was buried.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: justcarol67 justcarol67@...>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 19:42
> > > Subject: Re: BBC reporting
> > >
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21245346
> > > > Does this mean he was alive when they were actually hacking at him? I was so hoping he didn't have to feel the terror of being stripped of his helmet and armor......Would be dead as soon as he fell from his horse. Too much to hope for?
> > >
> > > Carol responds:
> > >
> > > All the reports I've seen say that either or both of the wounds to his head would have caused him to lose consciousness instantly, and if the larger wound was more than seven centimeters deep (they can't tell that from the skull), it would have killed him instantly. If he felt any pain, I would guess that it was from the arrow to the back, which no one seems to be mentioning. Of course, I don't have access to any radio reports and aside from CBS, curse them, I haven't seen anything on TV, either. Online coverage is everywhere, but the only videos I've seen are the Richard Buckley one and the official "it's him" announcement.
> > >
> > > Glad I work at home so no one can see how little work I'm actually doing!
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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I read somewhere today the piece of metal was found under 2 vertabrae.

From channel4 chat:
LIN FOXHALL:
It turned out not to be an arrowhead. On further investigation it sees to be
a Roman nail. This is why we need to investigate thoroughly.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/richard-iii-the-king-in-the-car-park/arti
cles/live-qa-with-philippa-langley-and-lin-foxhall


Mon Feb 4, 2013 1:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:


<mailto:gbutterf1@...?subject=Re%3A%20BBC%20reporting> "George
Butterfield" gbutterf1

Don't think so unless the Romans were at Bosworth it was impaled in his
back!
G

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On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:00 PM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@
<mailto:ferrymansdaughter%40btinternet.com> btinternet.com> wrote:

> I only listened to bits this morning as I was at work but I'm sure they
said the arrow was something to do with Romans and already there when
Richard was buried.

Glad my opinion very quietly and subtly validated overnight-! Cheers!

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
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> Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
> Paul
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> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
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> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:
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> > Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
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> >> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
> >>
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Apparantley Starkey was his history tutor....say no more.

-----Original Message-----

From: blancsanglier1452
Sent: 5 Feb 2013 13:00:38 GMT
To:
Subject: Re: BBC reporting

Glad my opinion very quietly and subtly validated overnight-! Cheers!

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Which rock did he crawl out from under?Does he have any credentials at all?
> Paul
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 17:29, ellrosa1452 wrote:
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> > Dan Jones. Do you want to hit him or shall I? Smug and patronising. I shan't be bying any of his books, that's for sure.
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > --- In , "blancsanglier1452" wrote:
> >>
> >> Who is the fucker they just wheeled out thinks he's a historian???
> >>
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