the king in the carpark doc

the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 02:23:14
angela
I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features. However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.

Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 02:34:10
mcjohn\_wt\_net
"Will you do something for me?" he asked.

"Of course. Anything I can do."

"Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light as long as it takes to count a pulse?"

"Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"

"Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."

She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.

He watched the second-hand of his watch.

He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no immediate answer he said again: "Well?"

"Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a nice face, isn't it?"

--"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey

--- In , "angela" wrote:
>
> I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features. However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
>

Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 11:21:58
Johanne Tournier
Thank you, Mcjohn. I too was thinking of Tey and the inspiration she derived
from the NPG portrait of Richard. Thank you for reproducing the wonderful
ending of *The Daughter of Time* which surely has been inspirational for
many of us (although we do realize it's a novel, LOL!)



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:33 PM
To:
Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc





"Will you do something for me?" he asked.

"Of course. Anything I can do."

"Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light
as long as it takes to count a pulse?"

"Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"

"Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."

She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.

He watched the second-hand of his watch.

He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no
immediate answer he said again: "Well?"

"Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a
nice face, isn't it?"

--"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey

--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "angela" wrote:
>
> I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to
me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have
seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features.
However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
>





Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 11:31:02
mairemulholland
Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.

--- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Thank you, Mcjohn. I too was thinking of Tey and the inspiration she derived
> from the NPG portrait of Richard. Thank you for reproducing the wonderful
> ending of *The Daughter of Time* which surely has been inspirational for
> many of us (although we do realize it's a novel, LOL!)
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:33 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
>
>
>
>
>
> "Will you do something for me?" he asked.
>
> "Of course. Anything I can do."
>
> "Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light
> as long as it takes to count a pulse?"
>
> "Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"
>
> "Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."
>
> She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.
>
> He watched the second-hand of his watch.
>
> He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no
> immediate answer he said again: "Well?"
>
> "Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a
> nice face, isn't it?"
>
> --"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey
>
> --- In
> , "angela" wrote:
> >
> > I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to
> me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have
> seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features.
> However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 11:56:56
Hilary Jones
On looking at it again I think it's the eyebrows which are to me much too thick for an otherwise quite sensitive face. The portraits, Tudor wrinkles or not, show a sensitive face and that would have been in keeping with his rather feminine build.   Still like it though, and when you look at the portraits of the royals down the ages he doesn't have many rivals.



________________________________
From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 11:29
Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc

 

Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.

--- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Thank you, Mcjohn. I too was thinking of Tey and the inspiration she derived
> from the NPG portrait of Richard. Thank you for reproducing the wonderful
> ending of *The Daughter of Time* which surely has been inspirational for
> many of us (although we do realize it's a novel, LOL!)
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:33 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
>
>
>
>
>
> "Will you do something for me?" he asked.
>
> "Of course. Anything I can do."
>
> "Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light
> as long as it takes to count a pulse?"
>
> "Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"
>
> "Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."
>
> She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.
>
> He watched the second-hand of his watch.
>
> He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no
> immediate answer he said again: "Well?"
>
> "Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a
> nice face, isn't it?"
>
> --"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey
>
> --- In
> , "angela" wrote:
> >
> > I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to
> me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have
> seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features.
> However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 13:08:54
Ishita Bandyo
The face is rounder in this reconstruction! But since he was under strain for the last few years of his life, his face would have looked thinner when they painted the picture?

It is the approximation though, or is it the " true" face? The eyebrows are too bushy! How did they figure out?!
Someone on Facebook said he looks like Tarrantino with makeup on:(

Maybe the sideway glance has something to do with looking sly? I would rather he looked directly at the world! But he all have our own image of Richard and would never reconcile fully with what he might have really looked like......

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> On looking at it again I think it's the eyebrows which are to me much too thick for an otherwise quite sensitive face. The portraits, Tudor wrinkles or not, show a sensitive face and that would have been in keeping with his rather feminine build. Still like it though, and when you look at the portraits of the royals down the ages he doesn't have many rivals.
>
> ________________________________
> From: mairemulholland mairemulholland@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 11:29
> Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
>
>
>
> Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.
>
> --- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, Mcjohn. I too was thinking of Tey and the inspiration she derived
> > from the NPG portrait of Richard. Thank you for reproducing the wonderful
> > ending of *The Daughter of Time* which surely has been inspirational for
> > many of us (although we do realize it's a novel, LOL!)
> >
> >
> >
> > Loyaulte me lie,
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > [mailto:] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:33 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Will you do something for me?" he asked.
> >
> > "Of course. Anything I can do."
> >
> > "Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light
> > as long as it takes to count a pulse?"
> >
> > "Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"
> >
> > "Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."
> >
> > She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.
> >
> > He watched the second-hand of his watch.
> >
> > He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no
> > immediate answer he said again: "Well?"
> >
> > "Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a
> > nice face, isn't it?"
> >
> > --"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey
> >
> > --- In
> > , "angela" wrote:
> > >
> > > I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to
> > me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have
> > seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features.
> > However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 13:51:53
Hilary Jones
What it does seem to confirm though is that the other royal portraits of the time (E4, EW, even H6)  are also likely to be very close to how they looked - EW in particular must have been some beauty. The UK news images just released show him looking forward. In my own head I have him with lighter eyes, slightly lighter hair and a slightly thinner face. Still compared with H7 and H8!!!!! A good day yesterday.


________________________________
From: Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 13:08
Subject: Re: Re: the king in the carpark doc


 

The face is rounder in this reconstruction! But since he was under strain for the last few years of his life, his face would have looked thinner when they painted the picture?

It is the approximation though, or is it the " true" face? The eyebrows are too bushy! How did they figure out?!
Someone on Facebook said he looks like Tarrantino with makeup on:(

Maybe the sideway glance has something to do with looking sly? I would rather he looked directly at the world! But he all have our own image of Richard and would never reconcile fully with what he might have really looked like......

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Hilary Jones mailto:hjnatdat%40yahoo.com> wrote:

> On looking at it again I think it's the eyebrows which are to me much too thick for an otherwise quite sensitive face. The portraits, Tudor wrinkles or not, show a sensitive face and that would have been in keeping with his rather feminine build. Still like it though, and when you look at the portraits of the royals down the ages he doesn't have many rivals.
>
> ________________________________
> From: mairemulholland mailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.com>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 11:29
> Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
>
>
>
> Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Johanne Tournier wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, Mcjohn. I too was thinking of Tey and the inspiration she derived
> > from the NPG portrait of Richard. Thank you for reproducing the wonderful
> > ending of *The Daughter of Time* which surely has been inspirational for
> > many of us (although we do realize it's a novel, LOL!)
> >
> >
> >
> > Loyaulte me lie,
> >
> >
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> >
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> >
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:33 PM
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Will you do something for me?" he asked.
> >
> > "Of course. Anything I can do."
> >
> > "Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light
> > as long as it takes to count a pulse?"
> >
> > "Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"
> >
> > "Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."
> >
> > She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.
> >
> > He watched the second-hand of his watch.
> >
> > He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no
> > immediate answer he said again: "Well?"
> >
> > "Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a
> > nice face, isn't it?"
> >
> > --"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > , "angela" wrote:
> > >
> > > I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to
> > me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have
> > seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features.
> > However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>






Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 14:09:59
liz williams
Welle even  allowing for the difference in ages at the time of death, it shows he was a LOT better looking than Henry Tudor!



________________________________
From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 11:56
Subject: Re: Re: the king in the carpark doc

 
On looking at it again I think it's the eyebrows which are to me much too thick for an otherwise quite sensitive face. The portraits, Tudor wrinkles or not, show a sensitive face and that would have been in keeping with his rather feminine build.   Still like it though, and when you look at the portraits of the royals down the ages he doesn't have many rivals.

________________________________
From: mairemulholland mailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 11:29
Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc

 

Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Thank you, Mcjohn. I too was thinking of Tey and the inspiration she derived
> from the NPG portrait of Richard. Thank you for reproducing the wonderful
> ending of *The Daughter of Time* which surely has been inspirational for
> many of us (although we do realize it's a novel, LOL!)
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:33 PM
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
>
>
>
>
>
> "Will you do something for me?" he asked.
>
> "Of course. Anything I can do."
>
> "Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light
> as long as it takes to count a pulse?"
>
> "Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"
>
> "Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."
>
> She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.
>
> He watched the second-hand of his watch.
>
> He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no
> immediate answer he said again: "Well?"
>
> "Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a
> nice face, isn't it?"
>
> --"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> , "angela" wrote:
> >
> > I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to
> me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have
> seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features.
> However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 14:12:04
Hilary Jones
Yes MB wouldn't have liked that! 



________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 14:09
Subject: Re: Re: the king in the carpark doc


 

Welle even  allowing for the difference in ages at the time of death, it shows he was a LOT better looking than Henry Tudor!

________________________________
From: Hilary Jones mailto:hjnatdat%40yahoo.com>
To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 11:56
Subject: Re: Re: the king in the carpark doc

 
On looking at it again I think it's the eyebrows which are to me much too thick for an otherwise quite sensitive face. The portraits, Tudor wrinkles or not, show a sensitive face and that would have been in keeping with his rather feminine build.   Still like it though, and when you look at the portraits of the royals down the ages he doesn't have many rivals.

________________________________
From: mairemulholland mailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 11:29
Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc

 

Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> Thank you, Mcjohn. I too was thinking of Tey and the inspiration she derived
> from the NPG portrait of Richard. Thank you for reproducing the wonderful
> ending of *The Daughter of Time* which surely has been inspirational for
> many of us (although we do realize it's a novel, LOL!)
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 10:33 PM
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
>
>
>
>
>
> "Will you do something for me?" he asked.
>
> "Of course. Anything I can do."
>
> "Will you take that photograph to the window and look at it in a good light
> as long as it takes to count a pulse?"
>
> "Yes, of course, if you want me to. But why?"
>
> "Never mind why. You just do it to please me. I'll time you."
>
> She took up the portrait and moved into the light of the window.
>
> He watched the second-hand of his watch.
>
> He gave her forty-five seconds and then said: "Well?" And as there was no
> immediate answer he said again: "Well?"
>
> "Funny," she said. "When you look at it for a little it's really quite a
> nice face, isn't it?"
>
> --"The Daughter of time", Josephine Tey
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> , "angela" wrote:
> >
> > I am now downloading this doc.. If you cant't find it on line, email it to
> me and I will post it to you. I understand everyone's desperation. I have
> seen the facial reconstruction and, well, we knew he had strong features.
> However, the more I look at it, it is a NICE face.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 14:18:47
Johanne Tournier
I think one might well say that this is the image of Richard as he would have looked just before the death of Edward IV, when the world (or at least the North) was Richard's oyster, and he was living contentedly, master of all he surveyed, in Middleham, along with his beloved wife and dear son.



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Hilary Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:52 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: the king in the carpark doc

What it does seem to confirm though is that the other royal portraits of the time (E4, EW, even H6) are also likely to be very close to how they looked - EW in particular must have been some beauty. The UK news images just released show him looking forward. In my own head I have him with lighter eyes, slightly lighter hair and a slightly thinner face. Still compared with H7 and H8!!!!! A good day yesterday.








Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 16:27:46
wednesday\_mc
Wellll...pigments fade, so he may have had darker hair a? Or the artist may have taken liberties with the color to add the detail of the wave of his hair? Not so easy to do with a darker color? As for his eyes...blue, gray, blue-gray...mebbe they changed according to the color of cloth he was wearing?

As for the lines of care...I'm so not missing them. I'm thinking this is how he looks now -- how the part of him that didn't die and that lasts forever (his soul) looks. I absolutely love how approachable he appears.

~Weds

--- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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> Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.

Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 16:45:19
Johanne Tournier
Ah, Weds, you're a poet and a romantic after my own heart!



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne



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"With God, all things are possible."

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Wellll...pigments fade, so he may have had darker hair a? Or the artist may
have taken liberties with the color to add the detail of the wave of his
hair? Not so easy to do with a darker color? As for his eyes...blue, gray,
blue-gray...mebbe they changed according to the color of cloth he was
wearing?

As for the lines of care...I'm so not missing them. I'm thinking this is how
he looks now -- how the part of him that didn't die and that lasts forever
(his soul) looks. I absolutely love how approachable he appears.

~Weds

--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "mairemulholland" wrote:
>
> Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the
eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although
I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young
face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I
want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.





Re: the king in the carpark doc

2013-02-05 16:57:35
mairemulholland
Wednesday: what a sweet post! As if the King was restored to youth and beauty as the Duke of Gloucester - before any of the terrible consequences of his brother's reign began to affect him. You've made me rethink the wrinkles. Maire.

--- In , Johanne Tournier wrote:
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> Ah, Weds, you're a poet and a romantic after my own heart!
>
>
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
>
>
> Johanne
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>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
>
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
>
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:28 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: the king in the carpark doc
>
>
>
>
>
> Wellll...pigments fade, so he may have had darker hair a? Or the artist may
> have taken liberties with the color to add the detail of the wave of his
> hair? Not so easy to do with a darker color? As for his eyes...blue, gray,
> blue-gray...mebbe they changed according to the color of cloth he was
> wearing?
>
> As for the lines of care...I'm so not missing them. I'm thinking this is how
> he looks now -- how the part of him that didn't die and that lasts forever
> (his soul) looks. I absolutely love how approachable he appears.
>
> ~Weds
>
> --- In
> , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >
> > Just saw the reconstruction! I have to agree with someone who thinks the
> eyes and hair are waaaaay too dark; but it's a nice reconstruction although
> I do believe it lacks a bit of character. Interestingly, it is a very young
> face but where are the lines of care that are shown in all the portraits? I
> want his wrinkles back, lol! Maire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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