richards facial construction

richards facial construction

2013-02-06 22:37:58
carole
Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?

Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-06 22:54:23
mairemulholland
What's the story here? I don't understand.

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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 00:10:57
justcarol67
--- In , "carole" wrote:
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> Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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Carol responds:

Philippa said on the Q and A after the documentary that he lost that tooth in the grave, not in life. Not sure if that's what you were saying here or not, but we don't need to imagine a living Richard with a missing front tooth! And let's not mention that tooth in public or that will become the latest slander.

Carol

Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 00:24:34
Ishita Bandyo
You guys are too funny!!! Keep the tooth in the family!

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:10 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:

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> Philippa said on the Q and A after the documentary that he lost that tooth in the grave, not in life. Not sure if that's what you were saying here or not, but we don't need to imagine a living Richard with a missing front tooth! And let's not mention that tooth in public or that will become the latest slander.
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 00:41:21
Pamela Bain
Why does that old song "all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth" playing in my head????

On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:24 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" <bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi@...>> wrote:



You guys are too funny!!! Keep the tooth in the family!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:10 PM, "justcarol67" justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

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> > Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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> Philippa said on the Q and A after the documentary that he lost that tooth in the grave, not in life. Not sure if that's what you were saying here or not, but we don't need to imagine a living Richard with a missing front tooth! And let's not mention that tooth in public or that will become the latest slander.
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:02:14
wednesday\_mc
In the live Q&A featuring Philippa and another woman (I'm sorry, I can't remember her name; she was from the university), Philippa said the tooth had dropped out in the grave.

So it wasn't knocked out during his lifetime, and hopefully we won't have to deal with a new myth wherein his brother George socked him in the mouth and Richard urged their brother the king to finish off George...or something.

~Weds

--- In , "carole" wrote:
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> Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:02:32
wednesday\_mc
In the live Q&A featuring Philippa and another woman (I'm sorry, I can't remember her name; she was from the university), Philippa said the tooth had dropped out in the grave.

So it wasn't knocked out during his lifetime, and hopefully we won't have to deal with a new myth wherein his brother George socked him in the mouth and Richard urged their brother the king to finish off George...or something.

~Weds

--- In , "carole" wrote:
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> Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:05:45
goldielover56
I was wondering if it was possibly knocked out after his death when they were abusing his body.

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> Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:13:32
mcjohn\_wt\_net
Indeed, when it comes to the maligned king, Ricardians seek only the tooth.

Oh, wait...

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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:15:15
George Butterfield
The whole tooth and nothing but the tooth.


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On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:13 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...> wrote:

> Indeed, when it comes to the maligned king, Ricardians seek only the tooth.
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:29:17
Ishita Bandyo
Weds, you crack me up! But you know that:)

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:02 PM, "wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:

> In the live Q&A featuring Philippa and another woman (I'm sorry, I can't remember her name; she was from the university), Philippa said the tooth had dropped out in the grave.
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> So it wasn't knocked out during his lifetime, and hopefully we won't have to deal with a new myth wherein his brother George socked him in the mouth and Richard urged their brother the king to finish off George...or something.
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> ~Weds
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> --- In , "carole" wrote:
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> > Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:30:54
mcjohn\_wt\_net
They seemed pretty definite that it was there in the grave with him and had dropped out of the skull somewhere in the 527-years-to-the-day that the king's address was Car Park, Leicester.

--- In , "goldielover56" wrote:
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> I was wondering if it was possibly knocked out after his death when they were abusing his body.
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> --- In , "carole" wrote:
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> > Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 02:33:59
Ishita Bandyo
The beating his poor body took, no wonder he lost his tooth. He lost half his head, good lord. Or when his head smashed into the bridge on the way back to the Leicester.....(Just saying)

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:30 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...> wrote:

> They seemed pretty definite that it was there in the grave with him and had dropped out of the skull somewhere in the 527-years-to-the-day that the king's address was Car Park, Leicester.
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> --- In , "goldielover56" wrote:
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> > --- In , "carole" wrote:
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> > > Now we have the mystery of Richard's front tooth.It was definitely missing when the skeleton was first discovered.Then it appeared and then went again.I suppose there was always the danger of getting your teeth knocked out in his line of business?
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 03:07:57
wednesday\_mc
527 years TO THE DAY?

Okay, that's it. That is not coincidence, that's synchronicity and we all need to study our Jung.

Richard liveth yet, and this is getting eerie. I can't wait to see what happens over the next year.

~Weds

--- In , "mcjohn_wt_net" wrote:
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> They seemed pretty definite that it was there in the grave with him and had dropped out of the skull somewhere in the 527-years-to-the-day that the king's address was Car Park, Leicester.

Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 03:33:20
justcarol67
McJohn wrote:
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Carol responds:

Or Herrick's garden, Leicester, and whatever else it was before the automobile was invented. Which reminds me, has anyone seen this sign? I thought it was funny, anyway:

http://blog.sfgate.com/topdown/2013/02/05/my-kingdom-for-a-horse-and-the-horse%E2%80%99s-parking-lot-too/

Anyone know if it's a genuine sign?

But, yes, Philippa made it quite clear in the Q and A that the tooth fell out while Richard's body was in the grave. Someone asked who the other woman in the Q and A was. She was Lin Foxhall, head of the Department of Archaeology at Leicester University. In the early articles that followed the discovery of the skeleton, she made the distinction between scoliosis and kyphosis quite clear. I was disappointed that she didn't say anything of the sort in the documentary (she was a walk-on part, so to speak). Maybe she did say it and they edited it out.

Carol

Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 03:34:48
justcarol67
Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> The beating his poor body took, no wonder he lost his tooth. He lost half his head, good lord. Or when his head smashed into the bridge on the way back to the Leicester.....(Just saying)

Carol responds:

I'm pretty sure that if his head had smashed into the bridge, we'd have seen the damage to the skull and Jo Appleby would have mentioned it in the documentary. That's another myth that I hope will die along with the one about the River Soar.

Carol

Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 03:40:57
mcjohn\_wt\_net
Yeah, they decided to start the dig on August 25th, the 527th anniversary of Richard III's burial, and they found the top of his head that same day. Wasn't that... uh... synchronous of them?

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> Okay, that's it. That is not coincidence, that's synchronicity and we all need to study our Jung.
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> Richard liveth yet, and this is getting eerie. I can't wait to see what happens over the next year.
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> ~Weds
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> --- In , "mcjohn_wt_net" wrote:
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 03:49:09
mcjohn\_wt\_net
Yeah, I don't think that whole crone-by-the-bridge story has a lot of leg. "You bruised your heel on the way out and will bruise your head on the way back!" Didn't they spend some time making fun of that kind of thing on "Blackadder"?

--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
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> > The beating his poor body took, no wonder he lost his tooth. He lost half his head, good lord. Or when his head smashed into the bridge on the way back to the Leicester.....(Just saying)
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> Carol responds:
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> I'm pretty sure that if his head had smashed into the bridge, we'd have seen the damage to the skull and Jo Appleby would have mentioned it in the documentary. That's another myth that I hope will die along with the one about the River Soar.
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> Carol
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Re: richards facial construction

2013-02-07 04:13:44
Ishita Bandyo
Carol, duh!! You are right! I am not thinking at all these days:/

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:34 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:

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> Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> > The beating his poor body took, no wonder he lost his tooth. He lost half his head, good lord. Or when his head smashed into the bridge on the way back to the Leicester.....(Just saying)
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> Carol responds:
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> I'm pretty sure that if his head had smashed into the bridge, we'd have seen the damage to the skull and Jo Appleby would have mentioned it in the documentary. That's another myth that I hope will die along with the one about the River Soar.
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> Carol
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