Does the link work now???
Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 01:45:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em
Ishita
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Ishita
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Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 03:09:51
Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em
> Ishita
>
carol responds:
Yes. What did you do differently?
Carol
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em
> Ishita
>
carol responds:
Yes. What did you do differently?
Carol
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 13:27:59
Thanks, Ishita! I'm watching it now.
One thing occurs to me - part of Jo Appleby's attitude may be a bit of
defensiveness, because in fact, it was she who cut into Richard's skull
using a mattock. And it looks like she actually broke it apart, although of
course not irreparably so.
So far I am quite impressed with Philippa and feel they are showing all
sides, rather empathetically - and I really like Farnaby - a good guy who
seems to be bringing a bit of a light touch to the proceedings.
OK, I'm not a dry academician! LOL!
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
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or jltournier@...
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Subject: Does the link work now???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em> &sns=em
Ishita
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One thing occurs to me - part of Jo Appleby's attitude may be a bit of
defensiveness, because in fact, it was she who cut into Richard's skull
using a mattock. And it looks like she actually broke it apart, although of
course not irreparably so.
So far I am quite impressed with Philippa and feel they are showing all
sides, rather empathetically - and I really like Farnaby - a good guy who
seems to be bringing a bit of a light touch to the proceedings.
OK, I'm not a dry academician! LOL!
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
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Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
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From:
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:45 PM
To:
Subject: Does the link work now???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em> &sns=em
Ishita
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Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 14:02:18
There was much more made about the "hunchback" thing that I realized from
the discussion here. Criticism where criticism is due - Jo A. was a bit
intemperate, I would say, almost gleeful, to conclude from what she saw that
the skeleton was a "hunchback." Sorry, as I mentioned, that is not a medical
term. I thought she seemed almost gleeful about it, and you could see
Philippa's shock - which, given all we know, is not surprising, is it? I
actually thought she handled it very well. As I mentioned before, that no
doubt explains why Appleby (or Foxhall, but I think it was Appleby)
expressed concern about the reaction of Ricardians on finding out that
Richard had, what? The Leicester U. fellow who made the announcement last
September used the term "spinal abnormalities," and that is far more
accurate than the term "hunchback."
Even worse, as far as I am concerned, inexcusable, was Appleby's failure to
agree to draping the box with Richard's colors, when this had already been
approved, unreservedly, by the head of the project, Dr. Buckley. Philippa
was very diffident and polite when asking, and he agreed immediately. It was
then inappropriate for a junior member of the team to refuse. It was then
left to Philippa to arrange with JAH to carry the remains, the box draped
with the standard, to the van. It was, in my view, clearly inappropriate
behavior for Appleby. After all, it was not like by carrying it that she
would have been making a personal endorsement of the identification, merely
showing proper respect to the human remains in light of the evidence at that
point that they had found their man. It was after all, "The Search for King
Richard III" not "The Search for the Greyfriars Priory." As Philippa rightly
said, "We only do this once." Hear, hear, Philippa!
(Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and
would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the
excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say
that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that
were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my
uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:45 PM
To:
Subject: Does the link work now???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em> &sns=em
Ishita
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the discussion here. Criticism where criticism is due - Jo A. was a bit
intemperate, I would say, almost gleeful, to conclude from what she saw that
the skeleton was a "hunchback." Sorry, as I mentioned, that is not a medical
term. I thought she seemed almost gleeful about it, and you could see
Philippa's shock - which, given all we know, is not surprising, is it? I
actually thought she handled it very well. As I mentioned before, that no
doubt explains why Appleby (or Foxhall, but I think it was Appleby)
expressed concern about the reaction of Ricardians on finding out that
Richard had, what? The Leicester U. fellow who made the announcement last
September used the term "spinal abnormalities," and that is far more
accurate than the term "hunchback."
Even worse, as far as I am concerned, inexcusable, was Appleby's failure to
agree to draping the box with Richard's colors, when this had already been
approved, unreservedly, by the head of the project, Dr. Buckley. Philippa
was very diffident and polite when asking, and he agreed immediately. It was
then inappropriate for a junior member of the team to refuse. It was then
left to Philippa to arrange with JAH to carry the remains, the box draped
with the standard, to the van. It was, in my view, clearly inappropriate
behavior for Appleby. After all, it was not like by carrying it that she
would have been making a personal endorsement of the identification, merely
showing proper respect to the human remains in light of the evidence at that
point that they had found their man. It was after all, "The Search for King
Richard III" not "The Search for the Greyfriars Priory." As Philippa rightly
said, "We only do this once." Hear, hear, Philippa!
(Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and
would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the
excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say
that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that
were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my
uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Ishita Bandyo
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:45 PM
To:
Subject: Does the link work now???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em> &sns=em
Ishita
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Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 17:39:16
Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
> There was much more made about the "hunchback" thing that I realized from the discussion here. Criticism where criticism is due - Jo A. was a bit intemperate, I would say, almost gleeful, to conclude from what she saw that the skeleton was a "hunchback." Sorry, as I mentioned, that is not a medical term. I thought she seemed almost gleeful about it, and you could see Philippa's shock - which, given all we know, is not surprising, is it? I actually thought she handled it very well.
Carol responds:
Exactly what I've been saying all along. What's shocking is not the idea that we might criticize a member of the team involved in the dig but that team member's conduct.
Johanne wrote:
As I mentioned before, that no doubt explains why Appleby (or Foxhall, but I think it was Appleby) expressed concern about the reaction of Ricardians on finding out that Richard had, what?
Carol responds:
No, I'm afraid that was Lin Foxhall, who may have been basing her remark on Philippa's shocked reaction to the way the "hunchback" was presented to her. But Professor Foxhall, as always, uses the term "scoliosis," but here she treats it as synonymous with "hunchback" rather than, as earlier, making the scoliosis/kyphosis distinction. Here's the quote in question:
"Professor Foxhill [sic] is less optimistic about how the society will react if there is hard evidence that this is their fellow. 'It could be quite shattering,'she says. "One popular line of thought [among the group] is that the hunchback king was a myth of Tudor propaganda. This skeleton would prove that he had quite
a severe scoliosis."
Here's a link to the article (hope the tiny url still works) http://tinyurl.com/acdz5mr and another to the original discussion http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/23505
Johanne wrote:
The Leicester U. fellow who made the announcement last September used the term "spinal abnormalities," and that is far more accurate than the term "hunchback."
>
Carol responds:
I checked the other day and Lin Foxhall definitely made the kyphosis/scoliosis distinction, repeated in a number of articles around September 12. She also stated that the skeleton was that of a "strong and active" man despite his disability. I was extremely disappointed that we heard so little from her, probably because she wasn't directly involved in the examination of the bones. I asked a question about that distinction in the Q and A after the documentary, but it wasn't answered.
Johanne:
> Even worse, as far as I am concerned, inexcusable, was Appleby's failure to agree to draping the box with Richard's colors, when this had already been approved, unreservedly, by the head of the project, Dr. Buckley. Philippa was very diffident and polite when asking, and he agreed immediately. It was then inappropriate for a junior member of the team to refuse. It was then left to Philippa to arrange with JAH to carry the remains, the box draped with the standard, to the van. It was, in my view, clearly inappropriate behavior for Appleby. After all, it was not like by carrying it that she would have been making a personal endorsement of the identification, merely showing proper respect to the human remains in light of the evidence at that point that they had found their man. It was after all, "The Search for King Richard III" not "The Search for the Greyfriars Priory." As Philippa rightly said, "We only do this once." Hear, hear, Philippa!
>
Carol responds:
I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
Johanne:
> (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
Carol responds:
And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
Carol
>
> There was much more made about the "hunchback" thing that I realized from the discussion here. Criticism where criticism is due - Jo A. was a bit intemperate, I would say, almost gleeful, to conclude from what she saw that the skeleton was a "hunchback." Sorry, as I mentioned, that is not a medical term. I thought she seemed almost gleeful about it, and you could see Philippa's shock - which, given all we know, is not surprising, is it? I actually thought she handled it very well.
Carol responds:
Exactly what I've been saying all along. What's shocking is not the idea that we might criticize a member of the team involved in the dig but that team member's conduct.
Johanne wrote:
As I mentioned before, that no doubt explains why Appleby (or Foxhall, but I think it was Appleby) expressed concern about the reaction of Ricardians on finding out that Richard had, what?
Carol responds:
No, I'm afraid that was Lin Foxhall, who may have been basing her remark on Philippa's shocked reaction to the way the "hunchback" was presented to her. But Professor Foxhall, as always, uses the term "scoliosis," but here she treats it as synonymous with "hunchback" rather than, as earlier, making the scoliosis/kyphosis distinction. Here's the quote in question:
"Professor Foxhill [sic] is less optimistic about how the society will react if there is hard evidence that this is their fellow. 'It could be quite shattering,'she says. "One popular line of thought [among the group] is that the hunchback king was a myth of Tudor propaganda. This skeleton would prove that he had quite
a severe scoliosis."
Here's a link to the article (hope the tiny url still works) http://tinyurl.com/acdz5mr and another to the original discussion http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/23505
Johanne wrote:
The Leicester U. fellow who made the announcement last September used the term "spinal abnormalities," and that is far more accurate than the term "hunchback."
>
Carol responds:
I checked the other day and Lin Foxhall definitely made the kyphosis/scoliosis distinction, repeated in a number of articles around September 12. She also stated that the skeleton was that of a "strong and active" man despite his disability. I was extremely disappointed that we heard so little from her, probably because she wasn't directly involved in the examination of the bones. I asked a question about that distinction in the Q and A after the documentary, but it wasn't answered.
Johanne:
> Even worse, as far as I am concerned, inexcusable, was Appleby's failure to agree to draping the box with Richard's colors, when this had already been approved, unreservedly, by the head of the project, Dr. Buckley. Philippa was very diffident and polite when asking, and he agreed immediately. It was then inappropriate for a junior member of the team to refuse. It was then left to Philippa to arrange with JAH to carry the remains, the box draped with the standard, to the van. It was, in my view, clearly inappropriate behavior for Appleby. After all, it was not like by carrying it that she would have been making a personal endorsement of the identification, merely showing proper respect to the human remains in light of the evidence at that point that they had found their man. It was after all, "The Search for King Richard III" not "The Search for the Greyfriars Priory." As Philippa rightly said, "We only do this once." Hear, hear, Philippa!
>
Carol responds:
I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
Johanne:
> (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
Carol responds:
And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
Carol
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 17:48:09
--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
>
> I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
>
> Johanne:
> > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
>
> Carol responds:
>
> And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
>
> Carol
>
>
To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
>
> I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
>
> Johanne:
> > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
>
> Carol responds:
>
> And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
>
> Carol
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 18:04:51
I just saw the entire documentary and thought it was wonderful - nothing like silly American tv documentaries! I think Phillipa was wonderful - I don't know what people are complaining about! She's obviously a visionary, not a scientist. If it had been me, I would have been in tears the whole time. She was remarkably restrained by our American standards!
My only problem with the young doctor, Appleby, was that she claimed a contemporary source wrote that Richard wasn't masculine! I frankly didn't know what she was talking about. Everyone was throwing the "hunchback" word around - not just Appleby.
The worst part for me was the examination of the wounds. Horrible, just horrible. The best part? The presenter or host calling Richard "a bonnie lad." That did it for me!
Anyway, my two cents. I thought it was wonderful. Maire.
--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
> >
> > I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
> >
> > Johanne:
> > > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
My only problem with the young doctor, Appleby, was that she claimed a contemporary source wrote that Richard wasn't masculine! I frankly didn't know what she was talking about. Everyone was throwing the "hunchback" word around - not just Appleby.
The worst part for me was the examination of the wounds. Horrible, just horrible. The best part? The presenter or host calling Richard "a bonnie lad." That did it for me!
Anyway, my two cents. I thought it was wonderful. Maire.
--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
> >
> > I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
> >
> > Johanne:
> > > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 18:06:56
I am with you 100%! Oh, of only television in the US was ever this good.
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On Feb 7, 2013, at 12:04 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...<mailto:mairemulholland@...>> wrote:
I just saw the entire documentary and thought it was wonderful - nothing like silly American tv documentaries! I think Phillipa was wonderful - I don't know what people are complaining about! She's obviously a visionary, not a scientist. If it had been me, I would have been in tears the whole time. She was remarkably restrained by our American standards!
My only problem with the young doctor, Appleby, was that she claimed a contemporary source wrote that Richard wasn't masculine! I frankly didn't know what she was talking about. Everyone was throwing the "hunchback" word around - not just Appleby.
The worst part for me was the examination of the wounds. Horrible, just horrible. The best part? The presenter or host calling Richard "a bonnie lad." That did it for me!
Anyway, my two cents. I thought it was wonderful. Maire.
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "EileenB" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
> >
> > I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
> >
> > Johanne:
> > > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 7, 2013, at 12:04 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...<mailto:mairemulholland@...>> wrote:
I just saw the entire documentary and thought it was wonderful - nothing like silly American tv documentaries! I think Phillipa was wonderful - I don't know what people are complaining about! She's obviously a visionary, not a scientist. If it had been me, I would have been in tears the whole time. She was remarkably restrained by our American standards!
My only problem with the young doctor, Appleby, was that she claimed a contemporary source wrote that Richard wasn't masculine! I frankly didn't know what she was talking about. Everyone was throwing the "hunchback" word around - not just Appleby.
The worst part for me was the examination of the wounds. Horrible, just horrible. The best part? The presenter or host calling Richard "a bonnie lad." That did it for me!
Anyway, my two cents. I thought it was wonderful. Maire.
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "EileenB" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
> >
> > I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
> >
> > Johanne:
> > > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 18:20:23
We do wonderful dramatic series - especially on the cable and pay networks. PBS, of course, does very good documentaries but other channels do really stupid, vacuous ones.
I also thought this show was very well paced. It was obviously designed for a general audience, not Ricardians.
One other thing: some folks think that Appleby was smirking at Phillipa. That might be true but it could also be a very clever (and malicious!) edit. I've seen this kind of selective editing on reality tv - I don't like it. Maire.
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> I am with you 100%! Oh, of only television in the US was ever this good.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 12:04 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I just saw the entire documentary and thought it was wonderful - nothing like silly American tv documentaries! I think Phillipa was wonderful - I don't know what people are complaining about! She's obviously a visionary, not a scientist. If it had been me, I would have been in tears the whole time. She was remarkably restrained by our American standards!
>
> My only problem with the young doctor, Appleby, was that she claimed a contemporary source wrote that Richard wasn't masculine! I frankly didn't know what she was talking about. Everyone was throwing the "hunchback" word around - not just Appleby.
>
> The worst part for me was the examination of the wounds. Horrible, just horrible. The best part? The presenter or host calling Richard "a bonnie lad." That did it for me!
>
> Anyway, my two cents. I thought it was wonderful. Maire.
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> > >
> > To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
> > >
> > > I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
> > >
> > > Johanne:
> > > > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
> > >
> > > Carol responds:
> > >
> > > And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I also thought this show was very well paced. It was obviously designed for a general audience, not Ricardians.
One other thing: some folks think that Appleby was smirking at Phillipa. That might be true but it could also be a very clever (and malicious!) edit. I've seen this kind of selective editing on reality tv - I don't like it. Maire.
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> I am with you 100%! Oh, of only television in the US was ever this good.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 12:04 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I just saw the entire documentary and thought it was wonderful - nothing like silly American tv documentaries! I think Phillipa was wonderful - I don't know what people are complaining about! She's obviously a visionary, not a scientist. If it had been me, I would have been in tears the whole time. She was remarkably restrained by our American standards!
>
> My only problem with the young doctor, Appleby, was that she claimed a contemporary source wrote that Richard wasn't masculine! I frankly didn't know what she was talking about. Everyone was throwing the "hunchback" word around - not just Appleby.
>
> The worst part for me was the examination of the wounds. Horrible, just horrible. The best part? The presenter or host calling Richard "a bonnie lad." That did it for me!
>
> Anyway, my two cents. I thought it was wonderful. Maire.
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> > >
> > To be honest I could not quite understand why Phillipa even asked JoA to carry the box...with or without the banner. To me the people that should have done that were the people that DID do it...Philippa and Dr J A-H...they were the perfect people for such an honour...and I should think that is a memory they will both carry until the day they pop their cloggs. Eileen
> > >
> > > I've already mentioned that I think I understand her hesitation here. She's a young scientist in the process of establishing her career and, I suspect, didn't want to embarrass herself by seemingly jumping to conclusions. I suspect, too, that she thought covering a box of bones with a heraldic banner was a maudlin, melodramatic gesture. She clearly had no concept of what Philippa was experiencing or why. I noticed a sideways glance at her colleague when Philippa was crying over what to Jo Appleby was just a particularly interesting skeleton. To Philippa, it was a man, and a very special man at that.
> > >
> > > Johanne:
> > > > (Parenthetical note: I absolutely admire the scientific team as a whole and would treat every one to a round at their favourite pub! But the excavation's success did not depend on Jo Appleby, and one can rightly say that while excavating a grave site, only six inches above human remains that were exposed, she probably shouldn't have been using a mattock. Just my uneducated opinion. Harrumph!)
> > >
> > > Carol responds:
> > >
> > > And mine, except that I wouldn't treat Jo Appleby to anything except a lecture on professionalism, especially since her words were being recorded for posterity. If only she had understood the importance to history (as opposed to science) of the moment! BTW, did anyone see the Starkey program immediately following the documentary? What an awkward, ironic juxtaposition!
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 21:55:06
Thanks for posting this link, Ishita. I've just finished watching straight through. It's good to see all the 5-7 minute extracts fit together.
Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the cameras?
Was Philippa--maybe--encouraged to be emotional because the film writers felt that would make "better TV?" Maybe the film writers or editors wanted to contrast a "subjective" Ricardian with "objective" scientists.
I would have preferred a presentation that didn't create that kind of "subjective" VS "objective" conflict.
Hopefully this film does Richard's cause more good than harm.
Marion
--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em
> Ishita
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the cameras?
Was Philippa--maybe--encouraged to be emotional because the film writers felt that would make "better TV?" Maybe the film writers or editors wanted to contrast a "subjective" Ricardian with "objective" scientists.
I would have preferred a presentation that didn't create that kind of "subjective" VS "objective" conflict.
Hopefully this film does Richard's cause more good than harm.
Marion
--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em
> Ishita
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-07 22:38:44
What's there to not like he's a Yorkshireman! R3 is instilled in your blood
bit like Theakstons Old Peculiar or Sam Smiths.
Nah Lad thas right champion.
George
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Johanne
Tournier
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:28 AM
To:
Subject: RE: Does the link work now???
Thanks, Ishita! I'm watching it now.
One thing occurs to me - part of Jo Appleby's attitude may be a bit of
defensiveness, because in fact, it was she who cut into Richard's skull
using a mattock. And it looks like she actually broke it apart, although of
course not irreparably so.
So far I am quite impressed with Philippa and feel they are showing all
sides, rather empathetically - and I really like Farnaby - a good guy who
seems to be bringing a bit of a light touch to the proceedings.
OK, I'm not a dry academician! LOL!
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ishita
Bandyo
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:45 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Does the link work now???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em> &sns=em> &sns=em
Ishita
Sent from my iPad
bit like Theakstons Old Peculiar or Sam Smiths.
Nah Lad thas right champion.
George
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Johanne
Tournier
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:28 AM
To:
Subject: RE: Does the link work now???
Thanks, Ishita! I'm watching it now.
One thing occurs to me - part of Jo Appleby's attitude may be a bit of
defensiveness, because in fact, it was she who cut into Richard's skull
using a mattock. And it looks like she actually broke it apart, although of
course not irreparably so.
So far I am quite impressed with Philippa and feel they are showing all
sides, rather empathetically - and I really like Farnaby - a good guy who
seems to be bringing a bit of a light touch to the proceedings.
OK, I'm not a dry academician! LOL!
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@... <mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com>
or jltournier@... <mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv>
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ishita
Bandyo
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:45 PM
To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Does the link work now???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUycrk5AfY&sns=em> &sns=em> &sns=em
Ishita
Sent from my iPad
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 02:57:06
George Butterfield wrote:
>
> What's there to not like he's a Yorkshireman! R3 is instilled in your blood bit like Theakstons Old Peculiar or Sam Smiths.
>
> Nah Lad thas right champion.
Carol responds:
Which reminds me:
About a week ago when it was cold, rainy, and cloudy here (cold by Tucson standards, that is), I remembered a phrase I've encountered in my numerous readings of "Jane Eyre," "onding on snaw" (which I think means "verging on snow" or "getting ready to snow" or something of that sort). I was wondering whether that phrase is still used in Yorkshire dialect and, conversely, whether it dates back to Richard's time. He'd have recognized the phenomenon that Charlotte Bronte was describing (via Jane) in any case.
Carol
>
> What's there to not like he's a Yorkshireman! R3 is instilled in your blood bit like Theakstons Old Peculiar or Sam Smiths.
>
> Nah Lad thas right champion.
Carol responds:
Which reminds me:
About a week ago when it was cold, rainy, and cloudy here (cold by Tucson standards, that is), I remembered a phrase I've encountered in my numerous readings of "Jane Eyre," "onding on snaw" (which I think means "verging on snow" or "getting ready to snow" or something of that sort). I was wondering whether that phrase is still used in Yorkshire dialect and, conversely, whether it dates back to Richard's time. He'd have recognized the phenomenon that Charlotte Bronte was describing (via Jane) in any case.
Carol
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 03:04:52
Not too sure about that, we always said "brass monkey weather"
However I do remember
"Down by twikken wer twater flows oer weir"
George
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:57 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> George Butterfield wrote:
> >
> > What's there to not like he's a Yorkshireman! R3 is instilled in your blood bit like Theakstons Old Peculiar or Sam Smiths.
> >
> > Nah Lad thas right champion.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Which reminds me:
>
> About a week ago when it was cold, rainy, and cloudy here (cold by Tucson standards, that is), I remembered a phrase I've encountered in my numerous readings of "Jane Eyre," "onding on snaw" (which I think means "verging on snow" or "getting ready to snow" or something of that sort). I was wondering whether that phrase is still used in Yorkshire dialect and, conversely, whether it dates back to Richard's time. He'd have recognized the phenomenon that Charlotte Bronte was describing (via Jane) in any case.
>
> Carol
>
>
However I do remember
"Down by twikken wer twater flows oer weir"
George
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:57 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> George Butterfield wrote:
> >
> > What's there to not like he's a Yorkshireman! R3 is instilled in your blood bit like Theakstons Old Peculiar or Sam Smiths.
> >
> > Nah Lad thas right champion.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Which reminds me:
>
> About a week ago when it was cold, rainy, and cloudy here (cold by Tucson standards, that is), I remembered a phrase I've encountered in my numerous readings of "Jane Eyre," "onding on snaw" (which I think means "verging on snow" or "getting ready to snow" or something of that sort). I was wondering whether that phrase is still used in Yorkshire dialect and, conversely, whether it dates back to Richard's time. He'd have recognized the phenomenon that Charlotte Bronte was describing (via Jane) in any case.
>
> Carol
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 10:13:00
Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
Paul
On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
>
> I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
>
>
>
Richard liveth Yet!
possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
Paul
On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
>
> I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
>
>
>
Richard liveth Yet!
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 14:21:35
All together, now:
What do we want?
Raw footage!
When do we want it?
Now!
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> Paul
>
>
> On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> >
> > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard liveth Yet!
>
What do we want?
Raw footage!
When do we want it?
Now!
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> Paul
>
>
> On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> >
> > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard liveth Yet!
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 14:25:17
Absolutely!
________________________________
From: mcjohn_wt_net <mcjohn@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 14:21
Subject: Re: Does the link work now???
All together, now:
What do we want?
Raw footage!
When do we want it?
Now!
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> Paul
>
>
> On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> >
> > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard liveth Yet!
>
________________________________
From: mcjohn_wt_net <mcjohn@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 14:21
Subject: Re: Does the link work now???
All together, now:
What do we want?
Raw footage!
When do we want it?
Now!
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> Paul
>
>
> On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> >
> > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard liveth Yet!
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 15:08:36
John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
All together, now:
What do we want?
Raw footage!
When do we want it?
Now!
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> Paul
>
>
> On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> >
> > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard liveth Yet!
>
On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
All together, now:
What do we want?
Raw footage!
When do we want it?
Now!
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>
> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> Paul
>
>
> On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> >
> > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard liveth Yet!
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 15:28:32
With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> All together, now:
>
> What do we want?
> Raw footage!
> When do we want it?
> Now!
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > >
> > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> All together, now:
>
> What do we want?
> Raw footage!
> When do we want it?
> Now!
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > >
> > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard liveth Yet!
> >
>
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>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 15:34:23
Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> All together, now:
>
> What do we want?
> Raw footage!
> When do we want it?
> Now!
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > >
> > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> All together, now:
>
> What do we want?
> Raw footage!
> When do we want it?
> Now!
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> >
> > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > >
> > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Richard liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 15:42:40
Who be Grendel? And what didnt she make? A journey, a bread pudding? Eileen
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > All together, now:
> >
> > What do we want?
> > Raw footage!
> > When do we want it?
> > Now!
> >
> > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > >
> > > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > > >
> > > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Richard liveth Yet!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > All together, now:
> >
> > What do we want?
> > Raw footage!
> > When do we want it?
> > Now!
> >
> > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > >
> > > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > > >
> > > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Richard liveth Yet!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 16:00:19
[Laughing.] Grendel is the monster in "Beowulf". The hero Beowulf engages Grendel in battle and [SPOILER ALERT] kills him. (If you can spoil the ending of a poem that's, like, 1,200 years old.) Grendel's mother does not take the news well; she is the true villain of the piece. (Er, kind of like "Beowulf's" Margaret Beaufort, come to think of it.)
--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
>
> Who be Grendel? And what didnt she make? A journey, a bread pudding? Eileen
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
> > >
> > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All together, now:
> > >
> > > What do we want?
> > > Raw footage!
> > > When do we want it?
> > > Now!
> > >
> > > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > > > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > > > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > > > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > > > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > > > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > > > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > > > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard liveth Yet!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
>
> Who be Grendel? And what didnt she make? A journey, a bread pudding? Eileen
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
> > >
> > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All together, now:
> > >
> > > What do we want?
> > > Raw footage!
> > > When do we want it?
> > > Now!
> > >
> > > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > > > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > > > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > > > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > > > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > > > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > > > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > > > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard liveth Yet!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 16:03:29
The female of species springs to mind...Eileen
--- In , "mcjohn_wt_net" wrote:
>
Grendel's mother does not take the news well; she is the true villain of the piece. (Er, kind of like "Beowulf's" Margaret Beaufort, come to think of it.)
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> >
> > Who be Grendel? And what didnt she make? A journey, a bread pudding? Eileen
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
> > >
> > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All together, now:
> > > >
> > > > What do we want?
> > > > Raw footage!
> > > > When do we want it?
> > > > Now!
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > > > > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > > > > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > > > > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > > > > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > > > > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > > > > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > > > > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > > > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard liveth Yet!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
--- In , "mcjohn_wt_net" wrote:
>
Grendel's mother does not take the news well; she is the true villain of the piece. (Er, kind of like "Beowulf's" Margaret Beaufort, come to think of it.)
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> >
> > Who be Grendel? And what didnt she make? A journey, a bread pudding? Eileen
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
> > >
> > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All together, now:
> > > >
> > > > What do we want?
> > > > Raw footage!
> > > > When do we want it?
> > > > Now!
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
> > > > > possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
> > > > > written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
> > > > > programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
> > > > > show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
> > > > > I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
> > > > > editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
> > > > > Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 07/02/2013 21:55, phaecilia wrote:
> > > > > > Does anyone know how much of this was spontaneous and how much was influenced by a script?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know anything about writing and filming documentaries. None of the speakers seemed stiff in front of the cameras. Does that mean they had rehearsed well or that they are just comfortable speaking spontaneously in front of the camera
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard liveth Yet!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 17:17:34
Perhaps Phillippa has asked for a copy of the rushes [aka dailies]. If
not the material will disappear into storage. They rarely do a
director's cut of documentaries, or put deleted scenes out.
Paul
On 08/02/2013 14:21, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> All together, now:
>
> What do we want?
> Raw footage!
> When do we want it?
> Now!
>
> --- In, Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>> >
>> >Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
>> >possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
>> >written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
>> >programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
>> >show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
>> >I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
>> >editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
>> >Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
>> >Paul
>> >
-- Richard Liveth Yet!
not the material will disappear into storage. They rarely do a
director's cut of documentaries, or put deleted scenes out.
Paul
On 08/02/2013 14:21, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> All together, now:
>
> What do we want?
> Raw footage!
> When do we want it?
> Now!
>
> --- In, Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>> >
>> >Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
>> >possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
>> >written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
>> >programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
>> >show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
>> >I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
>> >editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
>> >Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
>> >Paul
>> >
-- Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 17:23:34
Bet none are as good as my white boar tattoo! [Bosworth version]
Paul
On 08/02/2013 15:28, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>> John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> All together, now:
>>
>> What do we want?
>> Raw footage!
>> When do we want it?
>> Now!
>>
>> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>>> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
>>> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
>>> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
>>> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
>>> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
>>> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
>>> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
>>> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
-- Richard Liveth Yet!
Paul
On 08/02/2013 15:28, mcjohn_wt_net wrote:
> With badges bearing Richard's coat of arms!
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>> John, do you have pom poms to shake for those of us on your team????? Love
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> All together, now:
>>
>> What do we want?
>> Raw footage!
>> When do we want it?
>> Now!
>>
>> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale wrote:
>>> Just so you know, documentaries are pitched using the subject matter and
>>> possible participants. Then they are filmed on the hoof. The script is
>>> written afterwards to match, or change, the material, hence so many damn
>>> programmes that begin "Tonight we will see,blah,blah blah. First we will
>>> show you, blah blah blah. First up.."
>>> I have had the misfortune to edit a number of documentaries in which the
>>> editing has completely changed what the programme was actually about.
>>> Producers get an idea in their heads, and will rarely budge from it.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
-- Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 20:10:02
Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 20:47:58
[Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
And as far as the uniforms go:
[At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
VISITOR: Why not?
CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
>
> Carol
>
And as far as the uniforms go:
[At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
VISITOR: Why not?
CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
--- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
>
> Carol
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 20:48:00
Whoops......so all of us will have Pom poms, please tell me George is a he!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67@...>> wrote:
Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67@...>> wrote:
Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 20:56:46
Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
[Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
And as far as the uniforms go:
[At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
VISITOR: Why not?
CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
>
> Carol
>
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
[Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
And as far as the uniforms go:
[At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
VISITOR: Why not?
CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
>
> Carol
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:06:48
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:10:21
Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:10:56
The Sartain Age Squad works for me!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:15:25
Which George is a he, if it is me last time I checked all appeared to be in
order?
George
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Pamela Bain
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:48 PM
To: <>
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Whoops......so all of us will have Pom poms, please tell me George is a he!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67@...>> wrote:
Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate
costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could
gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense
of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be
offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously,
Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
order?
George
-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Pamela Bain
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:48 PM
To: <>
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Whoops......so all of us will have Pom poms, please tell me George is a he!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67@...>> wrote:
Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate
costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could
gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense
of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be
offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously,
Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:30:56
I think they're Hunter wellies, they do some with the flag. What we need now are some with a white Boar on them.
________________________________
From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:10
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
________________________________
From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:10
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" <mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn@...>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:35:51
Terrific.....
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:15 PM, "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...<mailto:gbutterf1@...>> wrote:
Which George is a he, if it is me last time I checked all appeared to be in
order?
George
-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Pamela Bain
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:48 PM
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Whoops......so all of us will have Pom poms, please tell me George is a he!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "justcarol67"
justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>>> wrote:
Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate
costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could
gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense
of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be
offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously,
Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
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On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:15 PM, "George Butterfield" <gbutterf1@...<mailto:gbutterf1@...>> wrote:
Which George is a he, if it is me last time I checked all appeared to be in
order?
George
-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Pamela Bain
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:48 PM
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Whoops......so all of us will have Pom poms, please tell me George is a he!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "justcarol67"
justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>>> wrote:
Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate
costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could
gather and make a huge spectacle.
> I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense
of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be
offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously,
Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
Carol responds:
McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
Carol
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Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:40:48
Well, even better. You are in charge of the costumes!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "liz williams" <ferrymansdaughter@...<mailto:ferrymansdaughter@...>> wrote:
I think they're Hunter wellies, they do some with the flag. What we need now are some with a white Boar on them.
________________________________
From: Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>>
To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:10
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Yahoo! Groups Links
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "liz williams" <ferrymansdaughter@...<mailto:ferrymansdaughter@...>> wrote:
I think they're Hunter wellies, they do some with the flag. What we need now are some with a white Boar on them.
________________________________
From: Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>>
To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:10
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-08 21:50:04
Well I work with Cath Kidston's brother - do you think we could get her to do them?
________________________________
From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:40
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Well, even better. You are in charge of the costumes!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "liz williams" <ferrymansdaughter@...<mailto:ferrymansdaughter@...>> wrote:
I think they're Hunter wellies, they do some with the flag. What we need now are some with a white Boar on them.
________________________________
From: Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>>
To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:10
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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________________________________
From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:40
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Well, even better. You are in charge of the costumes!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "liz williams" <ferrymansdaughter@...<mailto:ferrymansdaughter@...>> wrote:
I think they're Hunter wellies, they do some with the flag. What we need now are some with a white Boar on them.
________________________________
From: Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>>
To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 21:10
Subject: Re: Re: Does the link work now???
Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>mcjohn@...<mailto:mcjohn%40oplink.net>>> wrote:
Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
Now, where did I put those wellies?
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
>
> And as far as the uniforms go:
>
> [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
>
> VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
>
> VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
>
> VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
>
> CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
>
> VISITOR: Why not?
>
> CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
> >
> > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> >
> > Carol
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-09 00:58:11
Priceless, Mcjohn, simply priceless!
I am looking forward to the reburial and reunion with my RIII Society and
Forum Siblings. (Big Grin)
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:48 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Does the link work now???
[Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
And as far as the uniforms go:
[At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests
with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep
Squad.
VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
VISITOR: Why not?
CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it
this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate
costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could
gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense
of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be
offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously,
Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
>
> Carol
>
I am looking forward to the reburial and reunion with my RIII Society and
Forum Siblings. (Big Grin)
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
or jltournier@...
"With God, all things are possible."
- Jesus of Nazareth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of mcjohn_wt_net
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:48 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Does the link work now???
[Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
And as far as the uniforms go:
[At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests
with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep
Squad.
VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
VISITOR: Why not?
CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it
this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
--- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
>
> Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate
costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could
gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense
of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be
offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously,
Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
>
> Carol responds:
>
> McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
>
> Carol
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-09 01:45:12
There were an awful lot of Union Jacks on stuff last year because of the Jubilee.
marie
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
>
> Now, where did I put those wellies?
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
> >
> > And as far as the uniforms go:
> >
> > [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
> >
> > VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
> >
> > VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
> >
> > VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
> >
> > VISITOR: Why not?
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
> >
> > --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> > >
> > > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> > >
> > > Carol responds:
> > >
> > > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
marie
--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, we'd have to name the pep squad after you, wouldn't we? It was your idea!
>
> Now, where did I put those wellies?
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
> >
> > And as far as the uniforms go:
> >
> > [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
> >
> > VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
> >
> > VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
> >
> > VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
> >
> > VISITOR: Why not?
> >
> > CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
> >
> > --- In , "justcarol67" wrote:
> > >
> > > Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
> > >
> > > Carol responds:
> > >
> > > McJohn, are you going to tell her that you're a she?
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Does the link work now???
2013-02-09 15:40:42
I know, I have an umbrella!!!!
On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:45 PM, "mariewalsh2003" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There were an awful lot of Union Jacks on stuff last year because of the Jubilee.
marie
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
>
> Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
>
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> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
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> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
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> > [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
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> > [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
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> > VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
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> > CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
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> > VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
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> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
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> > VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
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> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
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> > VISITOR: Why not?
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> > CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
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> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
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> > > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
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On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:45 PM, "mariewalsh2003" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There were an awful lot of Union Jacks on stuff last year because of the Jubilee.
marie
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
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> Did you notice that Phillipa's wellies had the British flag on them?
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> On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
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> Now, where did I put those wellies?
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> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > Interesting, the word Sartain, which I assume is certain. My great great grandmother York, married Richard Sartain. So that is the derivation. And we thought we were French!!!!
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> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "mcjohn_wt_net" > wrote:
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> > [Blushing.] I... I was really enjoying the attention. Thank you, Pam!
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> > And as far as the uniforms go:
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> > [At the memorial service in Leicester Cathedral.]
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> > VISITOR: Lovely service, wasn't it?
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> > CLERGYMAN: Yes, yes, 'twas.
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> > VISITOR: Er... who were those ladies in the pleated skirts, sweater vests with crests, wellies, and pompoms? The ones doing the cheers?
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> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, 'tis the Leddehs of a Sartain Age Richard the Third Pep Squad.
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> > VISITOR: They look... uh... dangerous.
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> > CLERGYMAN: Oh, yas, yas, you don't want to be crossin' 'em.
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> > VISITOR: Why not?
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> > CLERGYMAN: They've half a millennium o' mad behind 'em, and let's put it this way; them daggers they're wearin' en't fer slicin' pound-kehk.
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> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "justcarol67" wrote:
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> > > Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > > > Wonderful.....so we "of a certain age" ladies can design an appropriate costume, with wellies, in case of a tempest. I am ready. Maybe we could gather and make a huge spectacle.
> > > > I do believe the news of the week has finally kicked into my wacky sense of humor, and I am digressing rapidly. Please excuse, any who might be offended. And, john, thank you for being such a good sport. Seriously, Grendel didn't make it!!!!!
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