Y-chromosome was: "Perkin Warbeck"
Y-chromosome was: "Perkin Warbeck"
2013-02-08 22:12:11
Carol earler:
[snip]
> > Regarding your statement that the Y-chromosome could only belong to
Richard of Shrewsbury (Edward IV's younger son) is not quite true, though
that would certainly be the most likely scenario. But he could also be an
illegitimate son of George of Clarence, a possibility suggested by an
obscure reference to a son of Clarence living in the duchess's household and
by a seldom-explored accusation in George's attainder which suggests that he
smuggled his own son our of the country and substituted another child,
which, if true, would mean that whoever the poor child was that Henry VII
imprisoned in the Tower, it wasn't Edward Earl of Warwick, who was in
Burgundy with Margaret.
>
I was finally able to watch the entire presser at U of L and was pleased to
hear that the Beauforts are now cooperating in the Y-chromosome project.
You are very right here, you have to be really careful in what a Y-chrom
match proves.
For example it is widely believed that tests proved the Thomas Jefferson was
the father of Sally Hemmings children. No, actually they proved that the
Hemmings children were from a Jefferson of Thomas' line. IIRC there were
something like 6 of them living nearby. One, a widowed uncle (I think) was
a frequent visitor to the TJ planation during the time the children were
born. When the uncle remarried, the births ceased!
Just as Richard has suffered many historical injustices, I think TJ has been
unfairly judged.
T
[snip]
> > Regarding your statement that the Y-chromosome could only belong to
Richard of Shrewsbury (Edward IV's younger son) is not quite true, though
that would certainly be the most likely scenario. But he could also be an
illegitimate son of George of Clarence, a possibility suggested by an
obscure reference to a son of Clarence living in the duchess's household and
by a seldom-explored accusation in George's attainder which suggests that he
smuggled his own son our of the country and substituted another child,
which, if true, would mean that whoever the poor child was that Henry VII
imprisoned in the Tower, it wasn't Edward Earl of Warwick, who was in
Burgundy with Margaret.
>
I was finally able to watch the entire presser at U of L and was pleased to
hear that the Beauforts are now cooperating in the Y-chromosome project.
You are very right here, you have to be really careful in what a Y-chrom
match proves.
For example it is widely believed that tests proved the Thomas Jefferson was
the father of Sally Hemmings children. No, actually they proved that the
Hemmings children were from a Jefferson of Thomas' line. IIRC there were
something like 6 of them living nearby. One, a widowed uncle (I think) was
a frequent visitor to the TJ planation during the time the children were
born. When the uncle remarried, the births ceased!
Just as Richard has suffered many historical injustices, I think TJ has been
unfairly judged.
T
Re: Y-chromosome was: "Perkin Warbeck"
2013-02-11 02:03:36
On 2/8/2013 3:12 PM, Terry Buckaloo wrote:
> I was finally able to watch the entire presser at U of L and was pleased to
> hear that the Beauforts are now cooperating in the Y-chromosome project.
> You are very right here, you have to be really careful in what a Y-chrom
> match proves.
>
> For example it is widely believed that tests proved the Thomas Jefferson was
> the father of Sally Hemmings children. No, actually they proved that the
> Hemmings children were from a Jefferson of Thomas' line. IIRC there were
> something like 6 of them living nearby. One, a widowed uncle (I think) was
> a frequent visitor to the TJ planation during the time the children were
> born. When the uncle remarried, the births ceased!
Actually, Randolph Jefferson seldom visited Monticello and there is no
evidence he was at Monticello when any of Sally Hemings' children were
conceived. Randolph's sons were prepubescent when most of Sally Hemings'
children were conceived. Thomas Jefferson was present when every one of
Sally Hemings' six children was conceived.
> I was finally able to watch the entire presser at U of L and was pleased to
> hear that the Beauforts are now cooperating in the Y-chromosome project.
> You are very right here, you have to be really careful in what a Y-chrom
> match proves.
>
> For example it is widely believed that tests proved the Thomas Jefferson was
> the father of Sally Hemmings children. No, actually they proved that the
> Hemmings children were from a Jefferson of Thomas' line. IIRC there were
> something like 6 of them living nearby. One, a widowed uncle (I think) was
> a frequent visitor to the TJ planation during the time the children were
> born. When the uncle remarried, the births ceased!
Actually, Randolph Jefferson seldom visited Monticello and there is no
evidence he was at Monticello when any of Sally Hemings' children were
conceived. Randolph's sons were prepubescent when most of Sally Hemings'
children were conceived. Thomas Jefferson was present when every one of
Sally Hemings' six children was conceived.