Henry the Seventh Society

Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.

OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.

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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
To:
Subject: Henry the Seventh Society



Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.

Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.

--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
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> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> To:
> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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Lololol!!!!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:

> Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
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> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
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> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
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Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:

> Lololol!!!!
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...> wrote:
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> > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
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> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
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You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.

--- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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> Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.

Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.

So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.





--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
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My feelings are hurt. I was trying to be helpful! Maire.

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> --- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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Oh phooey..... I did the Yahoo Groups search, doh! I did find the one on FB, but gee, I just could not make myself do it!

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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:13 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society



Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
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> OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
>
> ________________________________
> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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The Henry Vll Society...hahahahahahaha...how sad is that...Eileen

--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> Oh phooey..... I did the Yahoo Groups search, doh! I did find the one on FB, but gee, I just could not make myself do it!
>
> ________________________________
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:13 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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> Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
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> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????

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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society



You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "mairemulholland" wrote:
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> Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.

Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?

Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.

--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
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> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?

----- Original Message -----
From: mairemulholland
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
Subject: Henry the Seventh Society



Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.

I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.

--- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
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> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mairemulholland
> To:
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> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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Probably more of an anti-Richard society than a Henry Society
Vickie

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:

> I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
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> --- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
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> > Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
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> > From: mairemulholland
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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> > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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No, it's not! Although I was only a friend for 5 minutes it's all about what wonderful folks those Tudor males were! I wish the Richard the Third Society would get over being in good taste and go after these strange people.
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> Vickie
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" wrote:
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> > I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
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> > --- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
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Our theatre group, Dramatic Question Theatre, got non-profit status in
about 8 or 9 months and that was considered record time.

No way the group was founded on Thursday and got non-profit status by now:
the paperwork alone is complicated; and then there's oversight by the IRS
(who are very helpful, by the way).

Maria
ejbronte@...








On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, mairemulholland
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> I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry
> would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre
> group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of
> work! Maire.
>
>
> --- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> >
> > Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mairemulholland
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> >
> >
> > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already
> claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there
> but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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Yeah, it's ridiculous. Ya think the Tudors were making up things again??

--- In , Maria Torres wrote:
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> Our theatre group, Dramatic Question Theatre, got non-profit status in
> about 8 or 9 months and that was considered record time.
>
> No way the group was founded on Thursday and got non-profit status by now:
> the paperwork alone is complicated; and then there's oversight by the IRS
> (who are very helpful, by the way).
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> > would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre
> > group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of
> > work! Maire.
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> > >
> > > Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
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> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: mairemulholland
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> > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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> > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already
> > claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there
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Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...<mailto:mairemulholland@...>> wrote:



Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?

Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Pamela Bain wrote:
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> I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
>
> ________________________________
> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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It is in US, Uncle Sam requires a lot of paper work!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...<mailto:mairemulholland@...>> wrote:



I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
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> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mairemulholland
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
>
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> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.

--- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
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> Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
>
> Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find me under my name Ishita Bandyo.

Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:

> Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.
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> So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.
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> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...> wrote:
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> > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
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> > > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
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> > > > > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
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> > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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We are assuming it is US based. It could be based in Wales for all we know. China even.

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:

> It is in US, Uncle Sam requires a lot of paper work!
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...<mailto:mairemulholland@...>> wrote:
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> I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
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>> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: mairemulholland
>> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
>> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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>> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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Isn't a five - o -one an American thing? I assume it would be called something different in Wales or England.

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> We are assuming it is US based. It could be based in Wales for all we know. China even.
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> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Pamela Bain wrote:
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> > I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
> >
> > --- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
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> >> From: mairemulholland
> >> To:
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> >> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
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Yes it is US tax code!

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On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:25 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...<mailto:mairemulholland@...>> wrote:



Isn't a five - o -one an American thing? I assume it would be called something different in Wales or England.

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> We are assuming it is US based. It could be based in Wales for all we know. China even.
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com<http://www.ishitabandyo.com>
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts<http://www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts>
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com<http://www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com>
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Pamela Bain wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
> >
> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> >>
> >> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: mairemulholland
> >> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> >> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Oh yeah. True.
Btw, I went to a H7 page on fb and it has 122 members! 122 morons!

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:25 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:

> Isn't a five - o -one an American thing? I assume it would be called something different in Wales or England.
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > We are assuming it is US based. It could be based in Wales for all we know. China even.
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > > It is in US, Uncle Sam requires a lot of paper work!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: mairemulholland
> > >> To:
> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> > >> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Now, that is amusing.
Marie

--- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mairemulholland
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>
>
> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
Marie

--- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
>
> Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
>
> --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >
> > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> >
> > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > >
> > > --- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

But very Tudor ...



________________________________
From: wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 22:20
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
>
> Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.

Since you've been booted off, I think I should point out that nothing Henry did was non profit ....



________________________________
From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 22:39
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mairemulholland
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>
>
> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I don't think it's really non-profit.  I suspect they just put that because it sounds good.  AFter all, unless they make people pay to sign up or sell stuff (which they aren't) how could a FB page be profit making?



________________________________
From: Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 23:23
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
We are assuming it is US based. It could be based in Wales for all we know. China even.

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Pamela Bain mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com> wrote:

> It is in US, Uncle Sam requires a lot of paper work!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" mailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.commailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
>>
>> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: mairemulholland
>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
>> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
>>
>>
>>
>> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Bingo. That's what I think. I hope they don't try to profit off a fake 501 C 3 - that's dangerous. Maire.

--- In , liz williams wrote:
>
> I don't think it's really non-profit.  I suspect they just put that because it sounds good.  AFter all, unless they make people pay to sign up or sell stuff (which they aren't) how could a FB page be profit making?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ishita Bandyo
> To: ""
> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 23:23
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>  
> We are assuming it is US based. It could be based in Wales for all we know. China even.
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Pamela Bain mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com> wrote:
>
> > It is in US, Uncle Sam requires a lot of paper work!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" mailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.commailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us 3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> >>
> >> Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: mairemulholland
> >> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> >> Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

The Society is far more experienced in dealing with the media than I am. And, sadly, sometimes you just can't win! I'm absolutely appalled at the treatment of Phillipa Langley. To me, she is a heroine.

Still, it is a wonderful time to be a Ricardian, isn't it? Maire.

--- In , mariewalsh2003 wrote:
>
> Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> Marie
>
> --- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >
> > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > >
> > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

It's in keeping with what we've always suspected about his character.

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Lololol!!!!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" wrote:
>
> > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

"Eat a bag of rotten turnips, you usurpin', behind-mercenary-hidin', mean-face-makin', no-political-base-havin', despised-mother-colludin', useless unworthy excuse for a monarch! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! With all due respect (for values of 'all due respect' comprising less than zero), the Richard III Board on Yahoo! Groups."

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> > Lololol!!!!
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

As the missus put it, "Henry doesn't exactly seem like the kind of warrior to stand up proud and tall and declaim to his orderly, 'Fetch me... the brown armor!'"

--- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
>
> Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.
>
> So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > > Lololol!!!!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

The people I know who are genuinely interested in the life and reign of
Henry VII are in no way 'anti-Richard'. They sometimes get frustrated at
the level of anti-Tudor they come across. Why not just leave them in peace
to study, research, read and write about whatever time/person in history
they choose?

Karen

From: Vickie <lolettecook@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:48:06 -0600
To: ""
<>
Cc: ""
<>
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society






Probably more of an anti-Richard society than a Henry Society
Vickie

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...
<mailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> I'm not making it up. It claims to be a non-profit (yes, I know Henry would be
furious) after being founded on Thursday. When I ran a theatre group, it took us
3 years to achieve non-profit status. And it's a lot of work! Maire.
>
> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> >
> > Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mairemulholland
> > To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> >
> >
> > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already
claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it
really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Ishita

Why do you want to 'start a war on Henry Tudor'? Why not just leave the
people who are interested in him to get on with it in peace? A good many of
my friends who are interested in the Tudors have been genuinely excited
about the finding of Richard III's bones. I've not heard one unkind word.
I'm sitting here, reading this thread and genuinely hurting for those people
and fearing the worst for their groups. They don't come stomping into
Richard III groups being nasty, why on earth would any of us go to their
groups to be nasty? The history community on facebook is quite closeknit,
NOT divided along 'us' and 'them' lines. We respect each other's interests.
I'm sorry if I sound preachy, but this attitude is seriously worrying.

Karen

From: Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 18:17:04 -0500
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society






Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find
me under my name Ishita Bandyo.

Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on
Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...
<mailto:mairemulholland%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have
been thrown off already.
>
> So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he
hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing
about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was
very nice of me. Maire.
>
> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > > Lololol!!!!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the
Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE
member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > To:
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and
already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over
there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

I did not think of it that way, Karen. Sometime I do forget that these people are well, people. The moment I think of H7 I see Richard's battered body. Specially after seeing the skeleton it seems I have joined the rank of haters. But you are right on this. I have nothing personal against this, probably lovely people.
Just the fact that there is a H7 page was a little unsettling , I have to confess.


Sent from my iPad

On Feb 9, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...> wrote:

> Ishita
>
> Why do you want to 'start a war on Henry Tudor'? Why not just leave the
> people who are interested in him to get on with it in peace? A good many of
> my friends who are interested in the Tudors have been genuinely excited
> about the finding of Richard III's bones. I've not heard one unkind word.
> I'm sitting here, reading this thread and genuinely hurting for those people
> and fearing the worst for their groups. They don't come stomping into
> Richard III groups being nasty, why on earth would any of us go to their
> groups to be nasty? The history community on facebook is quite closeknit,
> NOT divided along 'us' and 'them' lines. We respect each other's interests.
> I'm sorry if I sound preachy, but this attitude is seriously worrying.
>
> Karen
>
> From: Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...>
> Reply-To: >
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 18:17:04 -0500
> To: ""
> >
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
> Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find
> me under my name Ishita Bandyo.
>
> Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on
> Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...
> > wrote:
>
> > Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have
> been thrown off already.
> >
> > So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he
> hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing
> about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was
> very nice of me. Maire.
> >
> > --- In
> , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lololol!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the
> Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE
> member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From:
>
> [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > > To:
>
> > > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and
> already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over
> there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ishita

There's a lot of emotion invested in Richard, more than any other historical
'personage' that I can think of. I guess this spills out sometimes in places
where it maybe shouldn't. The person I know who is most interested (and
admiring of) Henry Tudor is a very lovely person indeed!

Karen

From: Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:40:01 -0500
To: ""
<>
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

I did not think of it that way, Karen. Sometime I do forget that these
people are well, people. The moment I think of H7 I see Richard's battered
body. Specially after seeing the skeleton it seems I have joined the rank of
haters. But you are right on this. I have nothing personal against this,
probably lovely people.
Just the fact that there is a H7 page was a little unsettling , I have to
confess.

If the Henry Tudor's Society is non-profit, wouldn't it be the first time in history that anything related to him was not for profit?

Maybe my prejudice is showing because I've always seen him more as a vicious accountant than a good king.

~Weds

> --- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> >
> > Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?

I have no love lost for H7 but never felt this searing hatred either if truth be told. It all seems so personal now.
I think all our nerves are a bit frayed right now and we will be quick to pick fight with the " other side" as we perceive them to be.
Good night!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Karen Clark <Ragged_staff@...> wrote:

> Ishita
>
> There's a lot of emotion invested in Richard, more than any other historical
> 'personage' that I can think of. I guess this spills out sometimes in places
> where it maybe shouldn't. The person I know who is most interested (and
> admiring of) Henry Tudor is a very lovely person indeed!
>
> Karen
>
> From: Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...>
> Reply-To: >
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:40:01 -0500
> To: ""
> >
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
> I did not think of it that way, Karen. Sometime I do forget that these
> people are well, people. The moment I think of H7 I see Richard's battered
> body. Specially after seeing the skeleton it seems I have joined the rank of
> haters. But you are right on this. I have nothing personal against this,
> probably lovely people.
> Just the fact that there is a H7 page was a little unsettling , I have to
> confess.
>
>
>
>

Yes, the only person Henry Tudor would become the "patron saint of" would
have been Ebenezer Scrooge. (imho.)



Sorry to be so vicious about Henry - however, this is a bit of compensatory
payback in my view for a 500-year-old injustice. After all, Henry was the
short-term winner back then, not only winning the throne but responsible
(ultimately) for the besmirching of his predecessor's character.



I think it's completely harmless, and as someone else said, venting here
makes it less likely that I'll go vent elsewhere.



Yes, I'd rather be "pro, positive" for Richard rather than "anti, hateful"
to poor old Henry.



Loyaulte me lie,



Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier



Email - jltournier60@...

or jltournier@...



"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:14 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society





If the Henry Tudor's Society is non-profit, wouldn't it be the first time in
history that anything related to him was not for profit?

Maybe my prejudice is showing because I've always seen him more as a vicious
accountant than a good king.

~Weds

> --- In
<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> >
> > Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?

I think that's why I hate Henry so much (and I know it's absurd to hate a man whose been dead 500 years - but I do) but it's the trashing of Richard reputation and the lies.  Although of course we could ask, how much of that was Margaret Beaufort and Morton rather than Henry himself?
 
I also loathe (generally, not specific to Henry) people who are mean with money so he loses there too.
 
Liz
 


________________________________
From: Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 13:11
Subject: RE: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
Yes, the only person Henry Tudor would become the "patron saint of" would
have been Ebenezer Scrooge. (imho.)

Sorry to be so vicious about Henry - however, this is a bit of compensatory
payback in my view for a 500-year-old injustice. After all, Henry was the
short-term winner back then, not only winning the throne but responsible
(ultimately) for the besmirching of his predecessor's character.

I think it's completely harmless, and as someone else said, venting here
makes it less likely that I'll go vent elsewhere.

Yes, I'd rather be "pro, positive" for Richard rather than "anti, hateful"
to poor old Henry.

Loyaulte me lie,

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com

or mailto:jltournier%40xcountry.tv

"With God, all things are possible."

- Jesus of Nazareth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:14 AM
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

If the Henry Tudor's Society is non-profit, wouldn't it be the first time in
history that anything related to him was not for profit?

Maybe my prejudice is showing because I've always seen him more as a vicious
accountant than a good king.

~Weds

> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
, "Stephen Lark" wrote:
> >
> > Henry VII ........... non-profit organisation?

Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
Oh Bliss...Eileen

--- In , mariewalsh2003 wrote:
>
> Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> Marie
>
> --- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >
> > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> >
> > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > >
> > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Well it's about time!  Which papers?



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
Oh Bliss...Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
>
> Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> Marie
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >
> > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > >
> > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.

All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
--- In , liz williams wrote:
>
> Well it's about time!  Which papers?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>  
> Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> Oh Bliss...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> >
> > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > Marie
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > >
> > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

The Mail?  God in heaven.    Dashes to check out the website ..



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 16:14
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.

All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
>
> Well it's about time!  Which papers?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>  
> Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> Oh Bliss...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> >
> > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > Marie
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > >
> > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hahahahahaha....I love the You magazine supplement in it...:0)

--- In , liz williams wrote:
>
> The Mail?  God in heaven.    Dashes to check out the website ..
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 16:14
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>  
> Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
>
> All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> >
> > Well it's about time!  Which papers?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> >  
> > Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> > Oh Bliss...Eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> > >
> > > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > > Marie
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > > > >
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Eileen, I read about the Friends of Friendless Churches wanting to examine the remains of Richard of Eastwell. They would have to do it after they find the Y chromosome. If that matches then if there are any descendants of the Woodville Family i.e. a direct female line descendant ( I'm sure Stephen will know), it could be Richard Duke of York or if not he could be Richard's son. Very exciting and interesting. I have thought for a long time that Richard of Eastwell should be investigated further. Every little helps, any bits of evidence to complete the jigsaw.

--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
>
> Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
>
> All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> --- In , liz williams wrote:
> >
> > Well it's about time!  Which papers?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> >  
> > Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> > Oh Bliss...Eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> > >
> > > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > > Marie
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
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> > > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
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Talking of right wing. The Mail tends to be to the left of Caligula!
Paul

On 10/02/2013 16:24, liz williams wrote:
> The Mail? God in heaven. Dashes to check out the website ..
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 16:14
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>
> Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
>
> All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
>> Well it's about time! Which papers?
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: EileenB
>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>>
>> Â
>> Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
>> Oh Bliss...Eileen
>>
>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
>>> Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
>>> Marie
>>>
>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
>>>> Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
>>>>
>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>> Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>> I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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>>>>>> You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
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>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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Richard Liveth Yet!

Yes....one more little mystery solved one way or the other...We are surely going to get there one day...even if it feels like swimming through porridge...Eileem

--- In , "ricard1an" wrote:
>
> Eileen, I read about the Friends of Friendless Churches wanting to examine the remains of Richard of Eastwell. They would have to do it after they find the Y chromosome. If that matches then if there are any descendants of the Woodville Family i.e. a direct female line descendant ( I'm sure Stephen will know), it could be Richard Duke of York or if not he could be Richard's son. Very exciting and interesting. I have thought for a long time that Richard of Eastwell should be investigated further. Every little helps, any bits of evidence to complete the jigsaw.
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> >
> > Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
> >
> > All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> > --- In , liz williams wrote:
> > >
> > > Well it's about time!  Which papers?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > >
> > >  
> > > Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> > > Oh Bliss...Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > > > Marie
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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> > > > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
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Paul
Surly not Caligula, Vlad the Impaler, now that I can believe!
And only if he had big boobs.
G

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 10, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> Talking of right wing. The Mail tends to be to the left of Caligula!
> Paul
>
> On 10/02/2013 16:24, liz williams wrote:
> > The Mail? God in heaven. Dashes to check out the website ..
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 16:14
> > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> >
> > Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
> >
> > All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> >> Well it's about time! Which papers?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: EileenB
> >> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> >> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >>
> >> Â
> >> Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> >> Oh Bliss...Eileen
> >>
> >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> >>> Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> >>> Marie
> >>>
> >>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >>>> Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >>>>> Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >>>>>> I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> >>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
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> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>

Mary: Eastwell would have a Y- match with our Richard if he were either his son or Richard of Shrewsbury. I will investigate the Woodville roots for mtDNA soon but not in the next month.

----- Original Message -----
From: ricard1an
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society



Eileen, I read about the Friends of Friendless Churches wanting to examine the remains of Richard of Eastwell. They would have to do it after they find the Y chromosome. If that matches then if there are any descendants of the Woodville Family i.e. a direct female line descendant ( I'm sure Stephen will know), it could be Richard Duke of York or if not he could be Richard's son. Very exciting and interesting. I have thought for a long time that Richard of Eastwell should be investigated further. Every little helps, any bits of evidence to complete the jigsaw.

--- In , "EileenB" wrote:
>
> Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
>
> All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> --- In , liz williams wrote:
> >
> > Well it's about time! Which papers?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> > Â
> > Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> > Oh Bliss...Eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> > >
> > > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > > Marie
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
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The tomb often said tro be that of Richard of Eastwell is almost certainly a Moyle tomb, though, isn't it, with Richard himself being buried anonymously somewhere in the church or its grounds.
Marie

--- In , "ricard1an" wrote:
>
> Eileen, I read about the Friends of Friendless Churches wanting to examine the remains of Richard of Eastwell. They would have to do it after they find the Y chromosome. If that matches then if there are any descendants of the Woodville Family i.e. a direct female line descendant ( I'm sure Stephen will know), it could be Richard Duke of York or if not he could be Richard's son. Very exciting and interesting. I have thought for a long time that Richard of Eastwell should be investigated further. Every little helps, any bits of evidence to complete the jigsaw.
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> >
> > Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
> >
> > All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> > --- In , liz williams wrote:
> > >
> > > Well it's about time!  Which papers?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > >
> > >  
> > > Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> > > Oh Bliss...Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > > > Marie
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
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> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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> > > > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
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> > > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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Hmmm...I presume that the group of people who would like this to happen are fairly sure where Richard's remains are? Eileen?

--- In , mariewalsh2003 wrote:
>
> The tomb often said tro be that of Richard of Eastwell is almost certainly a Moyle tomb, though, isn't it, with Richard himself being buried anonymously somewhere in the church or its grounds.
> Marie
>
> --- In , "ricard1an" wrote:
> >
> > Eileen, I read about the Friends of Friendless Churches wanting to examine the remains of Richard of Eastwell. They would have to do it after they find the Y chromosome. If that matches then if there are any descendants of the Woodville Family i.e. a direct female line descendant ( I'm sure Stephen will know), it could be Richard Duke of York or if not he could be Richard's son. Very exciting and interesting. I have thought for a long time that Richard of Eastwell should be investigated further. Every little helps, any bits of evidence to complete the jigsaw.
> >
> > --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
> > >
> > > All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> > > --- In , liz williams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well it's about time!  Which papers?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: EileenB
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> > > > Oh Bliss...Eileen
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > > > > Marie
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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> > > > > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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Stephen, I am sorry I have phrased that badly, that's what I meant. If the Y chromosome matches then he is either Edward's or Richard's son. I suppose he could be Clarence's too if he ever had one. In view of our discussion earlier regarding Richard's care for humble soldiers, it could be possible that he would care for a son of Clarence if indeed there was one, I mean an illegitimate one. Thank you for offering to investigate Woodville roots.

--- In , "Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> Mary: Eastwell would have a Y- match with our Richard if he were either his son or Richard of Shrewsbury. I will investigate the Woodville roots for mtDNA soon but not in the next month.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ricard1an
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>
>
> Eileen, I read about the Friends of Friendless Churches wanting to examine the remains of Richard of Eastwell. They would have to do it after they find the Y chromosome. If that matches then if there are any descendants of the Woodville Family i.e. a direct female line descendant ( I'm sure Stephen will know), it could be Richard Duke of York or if not he could be Richard's son. Very exciting and interesting. I have thought for a long time that Richard of Eastwell should be investigated further. Every little helps, any bits of evidence to complete the jigsaw.
>
> --- In , "EileenB" wrote:
> >
> > Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
> >
> > All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> > --- In , liz williams wrote:
> > >
> > > Well it's about time! Which papers?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: EileenB
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> > > Oh Bliss...Eileen
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> > > > Marie
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> > > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
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> > > > > > > You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
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I am sure you are only saying that because you know me to be an admirer
of Vlad, who saved Europe from being taken over by the Turks!
Maybe Genghis Khan would have been better than Caligula!
Paul

On 10/02/2013 17:27, George Butterfield wrote:
> Paul
> Surly not Caligula, Vlad the Impaler, now that I can believe!
> And only if he had big boobs.
> G
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
>> Talking of right wing. The Mail tends to be to the left of Caligula!
>> Paul
>>
>> On 10/02/2013 16:24, liz williams wrote:
>>> The Mail? God in heaven. Dashes to check out the website ..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: EileenB cherryripe.eileenb@...>
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 16:14
>>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
>>>
>>> All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
>>>> Well it's about time! Which papers?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: EileenB
>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
>>>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>>>>
>>>> Â
>>>> Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
>>>> Oh Bliss...Eileen
>>>>
>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
>>>>> Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
>>>>> Marie
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
>>>>>> Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
>>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
>>>>>>>>
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>> Richard Liveth Yet!
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Richard Liveth Yet!

Paul
I totally agree.
Genghis Khan is the sort of fatherly Santa Claus figure that I could know and love
G


Sent from my iPad

On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> I am sure you are only saying that because you know me to be an admirer
> of Vlad, who saved Europe from being taken over by the Turks!
> Maybe Genghis Khan would have been better than Caligula!
> Paul
>
> On 10/02/2013 17:27, George Butterfield wrote:
> > Paul
> > Surly not Caligula, Vlad the Impaler, now that I can believe!
> > And only if he had big boobs.
> > G
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Talking of right wing. The Mail tends to be to the left of Caligula!
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> On 10/02/2013 16:24, liz williams wrote:
> >>> The Mail? God in heaven. Dashes to check out the website ..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: EileenB cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> >>> To:
> >>> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 16:14
> >>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ah Liz I feared someone would ask that...at the risk of being maligned..well that has happened to people much better than myself so I must bear it.....for reading poopy newspapers...The Sunday Express and the Mail on Sunday...The koff koff DE has a pullout poster...for the teenyboppers amongst us I suppose..and key members of the dig have been interviewed and quotes. Richard Buckley says..when the bones were found "I did a lot of jumping up and down and there were a lot of expletives...I should have offered some wonderful, clever Churchillian phrase, but no it wasnt like that at all. I just couldnt believe it". Oh...I also read that the Friends of Friendless Churches now want Richard of Eastwell's remains examined to prove onece and for all if they are of an illigitmate son of Richard or not.
> >>>
> >>> All in all some interesting stuff....as I said...the tide is turning I do believe...:0)
> >>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams wrote:
> >>>> Well it's about time! Which papers?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: EileenB
> >>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 15:45
> >>>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >>>>
> >>>> Â
> >>>> Do you know what? I am beginning to feel the tide is turning. Articles in two of the Sunday newspapers that I have read today are, OMG ,quite fair and unbiased and not repeating the oft mentioned hunchback or murdering of the little nephews. Instead I have read an opinion that Richard should lay in state at York before his burial at Leicester...(nice thought) and also another comment how comes his teeth were in a lot better condition that most of the contestants that appear in the Jeremy Kyle show...Yikes I am feeling a breakthrough!!!! Bring it on.....
> >>>> Oh Bliss...Eileen
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, mariewalsh2003 wrote:
> >>>>> Trouble is, Maire, the boot doesn't work either. You'll have seen for yourself how easily immoderate or passionate language can be turned against the user (eg some of the mickey-taking of Philippa). It's a tightrope, and the Society's PR officer is very experienced. The tide is in our favour at the moment, and blood-curdling whinges from unreconstructed traditionalists only show that they realise it too.
> >>>>> Marie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >>>>>> Sadly, I found out a long time ago that the high ground doesn't work. Richard, I think, found that out too. But, it's not up to me to tell the Society to put the boot in. Maire.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> >>>>>>> Well, I think maybe we just occupy the high ground and rejoice!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "mairemulholland" > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is the Blue Boar going back to being the White Boar?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Seriously, a little snark on this page is a good thing. 500 years of lies and defamation require a little revenge. It's infuriating to be thrown off after two posts! Maire.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , Pamela Bain wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I am telling you, those guys have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR! Hey, are some pubs going to be Christened Richard III, or The White Boar????
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of wednesday_mc
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:20 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You were "executed" in less than a day? Wow, that's harsh.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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Karen Clark wrote:

> There's a lot of emotion invested in Richard, more than any other historical 'personage' that I can think of. I guess this spills out sometimes in places where it maybe shouldn't. The person I know who is most interested (and admiring of) Henry Tudor is a very lovely person indeed!

Carol responds:

Just out of curiosity, Karen, and I'm not being sarcastic or rude but genuinely curious, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas More? I could make a long list of reasons why I don't admire him, but I suspect there's no need and certainly no time. (I have no time for Facebook, either, but I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about. I know that someone was planning a new biography of Henry VII but I don't know whether it's come out. What ironic timing if it appears right about now. If I were the author, I'd have waited for the results of the dig before publishing, but he may not have had the opportunity.

BTW, I see no harm in joking about Henry (or Richard) on this list, especially now when everyone needs an emotional outlet. But if we want to counter their views on their own ground, I think it's best to do so using facts and a respectful tone.

Carol

Carol said:, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas More?

Liz:  Carol, I  asked that very question on the HT FB page (very politely and said I was genuinely curious).  As yet no one has answered.

Carol: I  do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about.

Liz: It appears to have been set up by a Welsh guy in his late 20s  (there's another HT page  that also has around 200 members and he mentioned it on there) who says he hopes it will one day become a real society.  I suspect he's some young chap with an interest in history and has decided to  piggyback on the interest there is right now.  I also think - as I suggested earlier - he doesn't realise that you can't call yourself a Non-Profit Org. without going through certain steps to make yourself one, but since it's only an FB page right now, I don't think that really matters.

If he's calling his group an non-profit in the USA it does make a difference to the IRS. To be a non-profit, i.e., a 501(C)3, you must submit the proper forms and paperwork to the IRS and be very careful regarding financials. There are yearly reports required by the government regarding legitimate expenses, etc. There are also severe restrictions on what a non-profit can and cannot do depending upon the precise configuration. For example if he's accepting any kind of contributions and he really a isn't a non-profit then the gift cannot be deducted by the giver who would likely report it as a charitable contribution. I set up the 501(C)3 for the Jussi Bjorling Society - USA and the process takes a couple of months. We are extremely careful about what is and is not deductible. Bottom line... he shouldn't call himself a non-profit if he isn't.

Flo

I sent them a private message about the 501 C 3. They haven't answered me. I was involved with a private charity that ran into trouble with the IRS and believe me, you don't want to go in that direction! Maire.

--- In , Florence Dove wrote:
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> If he's calling his group an non-profit in the USA it does make a difference to the IRS. To be a non-profit, i.e., a 501(C)3, you must submit the proper forms and paperwork to the IRS and be very careful regarding financials. There are yearly reports required by the government regarding legitimate expenses, etc. There are also severe restrictions on what a non-profit can and cannot do depending upon the precise configuration. For example if he's accepting any kind of contributions and he really a isn't a non-profit then the gift cannot be deducted by the giver who would likely report it as a charitable contribution. I set up the 501(C)3 for the Jussi Bjorling Society - USA and the process takes a couple of months. We are extremely careful about what is and is not deductible. Bottom line... he shouldn't call himself a non-profit if he isn't.
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Jussi Bjorling! I love him. I'm now going to listen to the Pearl Fishers. (I think Richard would have liked the sound of Jussi!)

--- In , Florence Dove wrote:
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> If he's calling his group an non-profit in the USA it does make a difference to the IRS. To be a non-profit, i.e., a 501(C)3, you must submit the proper forms and paperwork to the IRS and be very careful regarding financials. There are yearly reports required by the government regarding legitimate expenses, etc. There are also severe restrictions on what a non-profit can and cannot do depending upon the precise configuration. For example if he's accepting any kind of contributions and he really a isn't a non-profit then the gift cannot be deducted by the giver who would likely report it as a charitable contribution. I set up the 501(C)3 for the Jussi Bjorling Society - USA and the process takes a couple of months. We are extremely careful about what is and is not deductible. Bottom line... he shouldn't call himself a non-profit if he isn't.
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He's British though so I'm not sure what the rules are here and I don't think it applies to FB pages obviously.  If he does set up a proper Society though, he'll have to be careful but I'm sure someone will point it out to him.



________________________________
From: Florence Dove <mdove9@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 21:55
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
If he's calling his group an non-profit in the USA it does make a difference to the IRS. To be a non-profit, i.e., a 501(C)3, you must submit the proper forms and paperwork to the IRS and be very careful regarding financials. There are yearly reports required by the government regarding legitimate expenses, etc. There are also severe restrictions on what a non-profit can and cannot do depending upon the precise configuration. For example if he's accepting any kind of contributions and he really a isn't a non-profit then the gift cannot be deducted by the giver who would likely report it as a charitable contribution. I set up the 501(C)3 for the Jussi Bjorling Society - USA and the process takes a couple of months. We are extremely careful about what is and is not deductible. Bottom line... he shouldn't call himself a non-profit if he isn't.

Flo

Maire...love the duet from the Pearl Fishers...Eileen
On 10 Feb 2013, at 22:01, mairemulholland wrote:

> Jussi Bjorling! I love him. I'm now going to listen to the Pearl Fishers. (I think Richard would have liked the sound of Jussi!)
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> > If he's calling his group an non-profit in the USA it does make a difference to the IRS. To be a non-profit, i.e., a 501(C)3, you must submit the proper forms and paperwork to the IRS and be very careful regarding financials. There are yearly reports required by the government regarding legitimate expenses, etc. There are also severe restrictions on what a non-profit can and cannot do depending upon the precise configuration. For example if he's accepting any kind of contributions and he really a isn't a non-profit then the gift cannot be deducted by the giver who would likely report it as a charitable contribution. I set up the 501(C)3 for the Jussi Bjorling Society - USA and the process takes a couple of months. We are extremely careful about what is and is not deductible. Bottom line... he shouldn't call himself a non-profit if he isn't.
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Beautiful music. Maire.

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> On 10 Feb 2013, at 22:01, mairemulholland wrote:
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> > Jussi Bjorling! I love him. I'm now going to listen to the Pearl Fishers. (I think Richard would have liked the sound of Jussi!)
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> > --- In , Florence Dove wrote:
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> > > If he's calling his group an non-profit in the USA it does make a difference to the IRS. To be a non-profit, i.e., a 501(C)3, you must submit the proper forms and paperwork to the IRS and be very careful regarding financials. There are yearly reports required by the government regarding legitimate expenses, etc. There are also severe restrictions on what a non-profit can and cannot do depending upon the precise configuration. For example if he's accepting any kind of contributions and he really a isn't a non-profit then the gift cannot be deducted by the giver who would likely report it as a charitable contribution. I set up the 501(C)3 for the Jussi Bjorling Society - USA and the process takes a couple of months. We are extremely careful about what is and is not deductible. Bottom line... he shouldn't call himself a non-profit if he isn't.
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Always nice to meet someone who also appreciates Bjorling's glorious voice. I helped to found JBS-USA back in 1998, and we partner with the Swedish Society and the Jussi Bjorling Appreciation Society in Britain. There are other Bjorling groups world wide. It was great fun and an opportunity to meet some very lovely singers as well as the Bjorling family. If you ever get to Sweden by all means head to the Bjorling Museum in Borlange. You might also want to check out the Society's website at
http://www.jussibjorlingsociety.org/ where you'll find recordings that are not commercially available.

He was my first serious introduction to opera. Glorious voice; just glorious. Maire.

--- In , Florence Dove wrote:
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> Always nice to meet someone who also appreciates Bjorling's glorious voice. I helped to found JBS-USA back in 1998, and we partner with the Swedish Society and the Jussi Bjorling Appreciation Society in Britain. There are other Bjorling groups world wide. It was great fun and an opportunity to meet some very lovely singers as well as the Bjorling family. If you ever get to Sweden by all means head to the Bjorling Museum in Borlange. You might also want to check out the Society's website at
> http://www.jussibjorlingsociety.org/ where you'll find recordings that are not commercially available.
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Eileen,

If you like Bjorling, you might want to check out this page on the Bjorling website. The prices are low, and these CDs are not commercially available. The sound is glorious.

http://jussibjorlingsociety.org/blog/97/new-jussi-cds-available-here

Off Topic..Florence...I am embarrassed to tell you I have not heard of this gentleman although I love classical music....but after you mention the word glorious I will check that website out...

Among my favourites..I have loads....Rutters Requiem...I keep telling my husband I want this played at my funeral...please remember...lol. Also Faure's Requiem...which I believe should be played at Richard' s funeral...
Eileen

On 10 Feb 2013, at 22:28, Florence Dove wrote:

> Eileen,
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Incidentally I just got a reply on Henry Tudor Society FB to my question (saying that I didn't understand why they admired HT and was genuinely curious to see if someone could tell me what it was about him that they liked)
 
The answer was "why are you here then?"  Says it all as far as I'm concerned. 


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From: Florence Dove <mdove9@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 22:28
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
Eileen,

If you like Bjorling, you might want to check out this page on the Bjorling website. The prices are low, and these CDs are not commercially available. The sound is glorious.

http://jussibjorlingsociety.org/blog/97/new-jussi-cds-available-here

Oh, that's ridiculous. I guess they won't get back to me about their non-profit status any time soon...

--- In , liz williams wrote:
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> Incidentally I just got a reply on Henry Tudor Society FB to my question (saying that I didn't understand why they admired HT and was genuinely curious to see if someone could tell me what it was about him that they liked)
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> The answer was "why are you here then?"  Says it all as far as I'm concerned. 
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> Eileen,
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> If you like Bjorling, you might want to check out this page on the Bjorling website. The prices are low, and these CDs are not commercially available. The sound is glorious.
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Ah...a lost opportunity for HT supporters to enlighten you with all the good acts he performed in his time...including siring Henry the Fat....what a shame..Eileen

--- In , liz williams wrote:
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> Incidentally I just got a reply on Henry Tudor Society FB to my question (saying that I didn't understand why they admired HT and was genuinely curious to see if someone could tell me what it was about him that they liked)
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> The answer was "why are you here then?"  Says it all as far as I'm concerned. 
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> From: Florence Dove
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 22:28
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> Eileen,
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> If you like Bjorling, you might want to check out this page on the Bjorling website. The prices are low, and these CDs are not commercially available. The sound is glorious.
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Karen, Carol and All,
I did try to apologize the Karen for what I thought was my rude remark. But just a few minutes back I visited that page and the vitriol being spewed about the RIII supporters is astonishing!!! I am genuinely alarmed. I saw nothing written by either Liz or Marie that are mean or ill natured in anyway.......

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:02 PM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

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> Carol said:, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas More?
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> Liz: Carol, I asked that very question on the HT FB page (very politely and said I was genuinely curious). As yet no one has answered.
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> Carol: I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about.
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> Liz: It appears to have been set up by a Welsh guy in his late 20s (there's another HT page that also has around 200 members and he mentioned it on there) who says he hopes it will one day become a real society. I suspect he's some young chap with an interest in history and has decided to piggyback on the interest there is right now. I also think - as I suggested earlier - he doesn't realise that you can't call yourself a Non-Profit Org. without going through certain steps to make yourself one, but since it's only an FB page right now, I don't think that really matters.
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I would strongly suggest simply to avoid the site as they probably are just itching for any opportunity to argue or receive perceived hurt.
The right to free speech unfortunately does not add intelligence to any argument remember the prayer "Lord please make me keep my mouth closed,so people may perceive my stupidity, rather than open it and remove any doubt"
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:

> Karen, Carol and All,
> I did try to apologize the Karen for what I thought was my rude remark. But just a few minutes back I visited that page and the vitriol being spewed about the RIII supporters is astonishing!!! I am genuinely alarmed. I saw nothing written by either Liz or Marie that are mean or ill natured in anyway.......
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> > Carol said:, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas More?
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> > Liz: Carol, I asked that very question on the HT FB page (very politely and said I was genuinely curious). As yet no one has answered.
> >
> > Carol: I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about.
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> > Liz: It appears to have been set up by a Welsh guy in his late 20s (there's another HT page that also has around 200 members and he mentioned it on there) who says he hopes it will one day become a real society. I suspect he's some young chap with an interest in history and has decided to piggyback on the interest there is right now. I also think - as I suggested earlier - he doesn't realise that you can't call yourself a Non-Profit Org. without going through certain steps to make yourself one, but since it's only an FB page right now, I don't think that really matters.
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George, I will try to take your advice!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:08 PM, George Butterfield <gbutterf1@...> wrote:

> I would strongly suggest simply to avoid the site as they probably are just itching for any opportunity to argue or receive perceived hurt.
> The right to free speech unfortunately does not add intelligence to any argument remember the prayer "Lord please make me keep my mouth closed,so people may perceive my stupidity, rather than open it and remove any doubt"
> George
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...> wrote:
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> > Karen, Carol and All,
> > I did try to apologize the Karen for what I thought was my rude remark. But just a few minutes back I visited that page and the vitriol being spewed about the RIII supporters is astonishing!!! I am genuinely alarmed. I saw nothing written by either Liz or Marie that are mean or ill natured in anyway.......
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Yes, I've decided it is best to ignore some people (even one on this forum). For your own peace of mind!
Vickie

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:

> George, I will try to take your advice!
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:08 PM, George Butterfield gbutterf1@...> wrote:
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> > I would strongly suggest simply to avoid the site as they probably are just itching for any opportunity to argue or receive perceived hurt.
> > The right to free speech unfortunately does not add intelligence to any argument remember the prayer "Lord please make me keep my mouth closed,so people may perceive my stupidity, rather than open it and remove any doubt"
> > George
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> > On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...> wrote:
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> > > Karen, Carol and All,
> > > I did try to apologize the Karen for what I thought was my rude remark. But just a few minutes back I visited that page and the vitriol being spewed about the RIII supporters is astonishing!!! I am genuinely alarmed. I saw nothing written by either Liz or Marie that are mean or ill natured in anyway.......
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> > > > Liz: Carol, I asked that very question on the HT FB page (very politely and said I was genuinely curious). As yet no one has answered.
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> > > > Carol: I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about.
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> > > > Liz: It appears to have been set up by a Welsh guy in his late 20s (there's another HT page that also has around 200 members and he mentioned it on there) who says he hopes it will one day become a real society. I suspect he's some young chap with an interest in history and has decided to piggyback on the interest there is right now. I also think - as I suggested earlier - he doesn't realise that you can't call yourself a Non-Profit Org. without going through certain steps to make yourself one, but since it's only an FB page right now, I don't think that really matters.
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Thank you .... Now if I could only listen to my own advice!
G

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On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Vickie <lolettecook@...> wrote:

> Yes, I've decided it is best to ignore some people (even one on this forum). For your own peace of mind!
> Vickie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...> wrote:
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> > George, I will try to take your advice!
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> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:08 PM, George Butterfield gbutterf1@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I would strongly suggest simply to avoid the site as they probably are just itching for any opportunity to argue or receive perceived hurt.
> > > The right to free speech unfortunately does not add intelligence to any argument remember the prayer "Lord please make me keep my mouth closed,so people may perceive my stupidity, rather than open it and remove any doubt"
> > > George
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> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Karen, Carol and All,
> > > > I did try to apologize the Karen for what I thought was my rude remark. But just a few minutes back I visited that page and the vitriol being spewed about the RIII supporters is astonishing!!! I am genuinely alarmed. I saw nothing written by either Liz or Marie that are mean or ill natured in anyway.......
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> > > > > Carol said:, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas More?
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> > > > > Carol: I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about.
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Ishita, you have nothing to apologise for and neither do I.  I also see no need for anyone else to apologise for us.
 
I think we've spent enough time talking about them to be honest.

From: Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 23:00
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
Karen, Carol and All,
I did try to apologize the Karen for what I thought was my rude remark. But just a few minutes back I visited that page and the vitriol being spewed about the RIII supporters is astonishing!!! I am genuinely alarmed. I saw nothing written by either Liz or Marie that are mean or ill natured in anyway.......

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:02 PM, liz williams mailto:ferrymansdaughter%40btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>
> Carol said:, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas More?
>
> Liz: Carol, I asked that very question on the HT FB page (very politely and said I was genuinely curious). As yet no one has answered.
>
> Carol: I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about.
>
> Liz: It appears to have been set up by a Welsh guy in his late 20s (there's another HT page that also has around 200 members and he mentioned it on there) who says he hopes it will one day become a real society. I suspect he's some young chap with an interest in history and has decided to piggyback on the interest there is right now. I also think - as I suggested earlier - he doesn't realise that you can't call yourself a Non-Profit Org. without going through certain steps to make yourself one, but since it's only an FB page right now, I don't think that really matters.
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We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find me under my name Ishita Bandyo.
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> Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.
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> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" wrote:
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> > Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.
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> > So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.
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> > --- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> > > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
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> > > Sent from my iPad
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> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
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> > > > Lololol!!!!
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> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In , Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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There was one girl on there called Rachel I think who seemed far more sensible but then she did "confess" that she wasn't a big H fan, just interested generally in the period I think.
 
I won't go back though - I  tried to ask what I think was a  sensible  question (why do they admire him) and no one gave an answer. Maire made one silly joke plus a comment which seems to have some historical fact behind it.  She got blocked and I've been criticised by various parties because apparently my question was rude.  It seems we are expected to put up with comments without being allowed to make any ourselves and are then accused of being "Ricardian bullies" etc. 
 
It's a shame really because I would like a serious answer from someone as to why people admire H VII and being told that people might wonder why I admire Richard doesn't really cut it since I am prepared to answer that question, should anyone ask it.
 
Liz
 
 
 

From: stephenmlark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 10:59
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find me under my name Ishita Bandyo.
>
> Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" wrote:
>
> > Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.
> >
> > So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lololol!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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True and agreed!
Cheers

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:36 AM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

> Ishita, you have nothing to apologise for and neither do I. I also see no need for anyone else to apologise for us.
>
> I think we've spent enough time talking about them to be honest.
>
> From: Ishita Bandyo bandyoi@...>
> To: "" >
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 23:00
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>
> Karen, Carol and All,
> I did try to apologize the Karen for what I thought was my rude remark. But just a few minutes back I visited that page and the vitriol being spewed about the RIII supporters is astonishing!!! I am genuinely alarmed. I saw nothing written by either Liz or Marie that are mean or ill natured in anyway.......
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:02 PM, liz williams mailto:ferrymansdaughter%40btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Carol said:, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas More?
> >
> > Liz: Carol, I asked that very question on the HT FB page (very politely and said I was genuinely curious). As yet no one has answered.
> >
> > Carol: I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars and, if so, what they would write about.
> >
> > Liz: It appears to have been set up by a Welsh guy in his late 20s (there's another HT page that also has around 200 members and he mentioned it on there) who says he hopes it will one day become a real society. I suspect he's some young chap with an interest in history and has decided to piggyback on the interest there is right now. I also think - as I suggested earlier - he doesn't realise that you can't call yourself a Non-Profit Org. without going through certain steps to make yourself one, but since it's only an FB page right now, I don't think that really matters.
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I posted on a closed Ricardian group that " there is a H7 society out there". Just that one sentence and had people at my throat. And one girl Geanine was so rude and combative I actually deleted my post. Doesn't make sense to pick fight with strangers......Its strange that 500 year old history can stir so much passion and animosity in people!
Just wondering why would people who thinks Richard was a " hunchback creep" join a Ricardian group. And they keep calling us trolls:/

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:02 AM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

> There was one girl on there called Rachel I think who seemed far more sensible but then she did "confess" that she wasn't a big H fan, just interested generally in the period I think.
>
> I won't go back though - I tried to ask what I think was a sensible question (why do they admire him) and no one gave an answer. Maire made one silly joke plus a comment which seems to have some historical fact behind it. She got blocked and I've been criticised by various parties because apparently my question was rude. It seems we are expected to put up with comments without being allowed to make any ourselves and are then accused of being "Ricardian bullies" etc.
>
> It's a shame really because I would like a serious answer from someone as to why people admire H VII and being told that people might wonder why I admire Richard doesn't really cut it since I am prepared to answer that question, should anyone ask it.
>
> Liz
>
>
>
>
> From: stephenmlark stephenmlark@...>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 10:59
> Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
>
>
> We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> >
> > Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find me under my name Ishita Bandyo.
> >
> > Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> >
> > > Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.
> > >
> > > So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Lololol!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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You might as well stay away from them, Ishita. By the way, how did you make out in the storm? Maire.

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> I posted on a closed Ricardian group that " there is a H7 society out there". Just that one sentence and had people at my throat. And one girl Geanine was so rude and combative I actually deleted my post. Doesn't make sense to pick fight with strangers......Its strange that 500 year old history can stir so much passion and animosity in people!
> Just wondering why would people who thinks Richard was a " hunchback creep" join a Ricardian group. And they keep calling us trolls:/
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:02 AM, liz williams wrote:
>
> > There was one girl on there called Rachel I think who seemed far more sensible but then she did "confess" that she wasn't a big H fan, just interested generally in the period I think.
> >
> > I won't go back though - I tried to ask what I think was a sensible question (why do they admire him) and no one gave an answer. Maire made one silly joke plus a comment which seems to have some historical fact behind it. She got blocked and I've been criticised by various parties because apparently my question was rude. It seems we are expected to put up with comments without being allowed to make any ourselves and are then accused of being "Ricardian bullies" etc.
> >
> > It's a shame really because I would like a serious answer from someone as to why people admire H VII and being told that people might wonder why I admire Richard doesn't really cut it since I am prepared to answer that question, should anyone ask it.
> >
> > Liz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: stephenmlark stephenmlark@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 10:59
> > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> >
> > We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find me under my name Ishita Bandyo.
> > >
> > > Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.
> > > >
> > > > So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lololol!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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Carol

My friend's interest in Henry VII isn't on a personal level, but on his
kingship. You'd have to check out her page and her blog to find out more!
She isn't anti-Richard, having an interest in the Tudors doesn't come with a
requirement to hate the Plantagenets, or Richard III. As I said, every Tudor
'fan' I know followed the news from Leicester with great interest and
genuine delight. First and foremost, they are interested in history, not
taking sides.

I tried to explain earlier (and was accused of acting like a grade 5
teacher!) that 'jokes' are made all the time about this or that historical
figure, but the right to make those jokes has to be earned through mutual
trust. After what happened on the THS page, a number of people have
expressed their (renewed) wariness of Ricardians. This is very sad and very
damaging.

Karen

From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
Reply-To: <>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:39:38 -0000
To: <>
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society






Karen Clark wrote:

> There's a lot of emotion invested in Richard, more than any other historical
'personage' that I can think of. I guess this spills out sometimes in places
where it maybe shouldn't. The person I know who is most interested (and
admiring of) Henry Tudor is a very lovely person indeed!

Carol responds:

Just out of curiosity, Karen, and I'm not being sarcastic or rude but
genuinely curious, what does your friend find to admire about Henry, who was
not a lovely person even in the view of Tudor supporters like Sir Thomas
More? I could make a long list of reasons why I don't admire him, but I
suspect there's no need and certainly no time. (I have no time for Facebook,
either, but I do wonder whether this Henry VII Society is a fly-by-night fan
club calling itself a nonprofit organization or whether it includes scholars
and, if so, what they would write about. I know that someone was planning a
new biography of Henry VII but I don't know whether it's come out. What
ironic timing if it appears right about now. If I were the author, I'd have
waited for the results of the dig before publishing, but he may not have had
the opportunity.

BTW, I see no harm in joking about Henry (or Richard) on this list,
especially now when everyone needs an emotional outlet. But if we want to
counter their views on their own ground, I think it's best to do so using
facts and a respectful tone.

Carol

"stephenmlark" wrote:
>
> We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)

Carol responds:

I don't think they'll have a problem unless they start charging a fee to join, in which case the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) will be all over them to pay their share of taxes on the profits. I suspect that the organizer doesn't have a clue what he is doing and that his Henry VII Society resembles the Richard III Society in name only. However, I spend as little time on Facebook as possible and have not checked it out, so I could be completely mistaken.

Carol

Marie, we finally dug out yesterday! We had 40" s of snow!!!




________________________________
From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society


 
You might as well stay away from them, Ishita. By the way, how did you make out in the storm? Maire.

--- In , Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>
> I posted on a closed Ricardian group that " there is a H7 society out there". Just that one sentence and had people at my throat. And one girl Geanine was so rude and combative I actually deleted my post. Doesn't make sense to pick fight with strangers......Its strange that 500 year old history can stir so much passion and animosity in people!
> Just wondering why would people who thinks Richard was a " hunchback creep" join a Ricardian group. And they keep calling us trolls:/
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:02 AM, liz williams wrote:
>
> > There was one girl on there called Rachel I think who seemed far more sensible but then she did "confess" that she wasn't a big H fan, just interested generally in the period I think.
> >
> > I won't go back though - I tried to ask what I think was a sensible question (why do they admire him) and no one gave an answer. Maire made one silly joke plus a comment which seems to have some historical fact behind it. She got blocked and I've been criticised by various parties because apparently my question was rude. It seems we are expected to put up with comments without being allowed to make any ourselves and are then accused of being "Ricardian bullies" etc.
> >
> > It's a shame really because I would like a serious answer from someone as to why people admire H VII and being told that people might wonder why I admire Richard doesn't really cut it since I am prepared to answer that question, should anyone ask it.
> >
> > Liz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: stephenmlark stephenmlark@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 10:59
> > Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society
> >
> >
> > We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Marie, yes I am on Facebook as are some of the other members. You can find me under my name Ishita Bandyo.
> > >
> > > Liz and I are waging a war on PG on fb and I guess now I have to start on Henry Tudor. Gosh, I am going to be Facebook outlaw pretty soon.
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:24 PM, "mairemulholland" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you on Facebook? It takes a few seconds to get signed up. I appear to have been thrown off already.
> > > >
> > > > So typical of Henry Tudor! 500 years of defamation and all I said was that he hid behind a tree when Richard charged him and I am...unfriended. I said nothing about him losing control of his bowels during the charge. I thought that was very nice of me. Maire.
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Are we going to start invading that page?!!! I would like nothing better!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lololol!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "mairemulholland" mairemulholland@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sadly, it already appears that I've been "unfriended" by Henry the Seventh. Boy, does he have thin skin! Maire.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Pamela Bain wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK, I did a search and found one created 2008, with exactly ONE member. I guess that isn't it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mairemulholland
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:00 PM
> > > > > > > > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Henry the Seventh Society
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Henry VII Society facebook page - which was created Thursday and already claims to be a non-profit - is hilarious. A few Ricardians are over there but it really needs to be swamped. Payback is SUCH a bitch. Maire.
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G

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:

>
> "stephenmlark" wrote:
> >
> > We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I don't think they'll have a problem unless they start charging a fee to join, in which case the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) will be all over them to pay their share of taxes on the profits. I suspect that the organizer doesn't have a clue what he is doing and that his Henry VII Society resembles the Richard III Society in name only. However, I spend as little time on Facebook as possible and have not checked it out, so I could be completely mistaken.
>
> Carol
>
>

Shoot it?



________________________________
From: George Butterfield <gbutterf1@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 18:01
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society

 
If you see a snake don't poke it with a stick
G

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "justcarol67" mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> "stephenmlark" wrote:
> >
> > We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I don't think they'll have a problem unless they start charging a fee to join, in which case the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) will be all over them to pay their share of taxes on the profits. I suspect that the organizer doesn't have a clue what he is doing and that his Henry VII Society resembles the Richard III Society in name only. However, I spend as little time on Facebook as possible and have not checked it out, so I could be completely mistaken.
>
> Carol
>
>

I vote in favor of just being the bigger people here and ignoring them.



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From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Mon, February 11, 2013 11:28:57 AM
Subject: Re: Henry the Seventh Society



"stephenmlark" wrote:
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> We could leave them to get into trouble over their "non-profit" claims;)

Carol responds:

I don't think they'll have a problem unless they start charging a fee to join,
in which case the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) will be all over them to pay
their share of taxes on the profits. I suspect that the organizer doesn't have a
clue what he is doing and that his Henry VII Society resembles the Richard III
Society in name only. However, I spend as little time on Facebook as possible
and have not checked it out, so I could be completely mistaken.

Carol