re Richard of Eastwell

Re: R of Eastwell: Where is Richard of Eastwell buried, I forgot. Just how outrageous is it to hope his body can be examined for determining certain things. What exact purpose might that have? I do wish Ricardians could run around examining all sorts of remains, but there will surely be a stop and start to those supposed efforts. Carol D.

He's buried in the church of St Mary, Eastwell, apparently. Wikipedia --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Plantagenet_(Richard_of_Eastwell)



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Inviato: Domenica 10 Febbraio 2013 21:02
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Re: R of Eastwell: Where is Richard of Eastwell buried, I forgot. Just how outrageous is it to hope his body can be examined for determining certain things. What exact purpose might that have? I do wish Ricardians could run around examining all sorts of remains, but there will surely be a stop and start to those supposed efforts. Carol D.

From VCH Kent:

There is a tradition, that a natural son of king Richard III. named Richard Plantagenet, sled hither from Leicester immediately after the fatal battle of Bosworth, fought in 1485, in which the king lost both his life and crown, and that he lived here in a mean capacity, having leave given him by Sir Tho. Moyle, as soon as he was discovered by him, to build for himself a small house, in one of his fields near his mansion of Eastwell-place, in which he afterwards lived and died; which is corroborated by an entry of his burial in the parish registry. He died in 1550, anno 4 king Edward VI. aged, as is supposed, about eighty-one. The entry in the parish register is as follows, under the article of burials: V. Richard Plantagenet, December 22d, 1550; the letter V prefixed being put before the name of every person of noble family mentioned in it; and against the north wall of the high chancel there is an ancient tomb, without inscription, with the marks of
two coats of arms, the brasses gone, which is reported to be that of this Richard Plantagenet. There was then no park here, but when there was one made, this small hut was included in it, and remained in being till it was pulled down by Heneage, earl of Winchelsea, who died in 1689.



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From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
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Re: R of Eastwell: Where is Richard of Eastwell buried, I forgot. Just how outrageous is it to hope his body can be examined for determining certain things. What exact purpose might that have? I do wish Ricardians could run around examining all sorts of remains, but there will surely be a stop and start to those supposed efforts. Carol D.

Can you tell me anything about the legend that Richard met with him at Bosworth? I love these various legends and myths. Maire.

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> There is a tradition, that a natural son of king Richard III. named Richard Plantagenet, sled hither from Leicester immediately after the fatal battle of Bosworth, fought in 1485, in which the king lost both his life and crown, and that he lived here in a mean capacity, having leave given him by Sir Tho. Moyle, as soon as he was discovered by him, to build for himself a small house, in one of his fields near his mansion of Eastwell-place, in which he afterwards lived and died; which is corroborated by an entry of his burial in the parish registry. He died in 1550, anno 4 king Edward VI. aged, as is supposed, about eighty-one. The entry in the parish register is as follows, under the article of burials: V. Richard Plantagenet, December 22d, 1550; the letter V prefixed being put before the name of every person of noble family mentioned in it; and against the north wall of the high chancel there is an ancient tomb, without inscription, with the marks of
> two coats of arms, the brasses gone, which is reported to be that of this Richard Plantagenet. There was then no park here, but when there was one made, this small hut was included in it, and remained in being till it was pulled down by Heneage, earl of Winchelsea, who died in 1689.
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Hello Maire,

Try this link: http://dictionary.sensagent.com/richard+plantagenet+(richard+of+eastwell)/en-en/

There used to be a reproduction of the 18th c. MS that tells this story online, but I can't find it now.

Hope this helps,

Marion

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> Can you tell me anything about the legend that Richard met with him at Bosworth? I love these various legends and myths. Maire.
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> --- In , david rayner wrote:
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> > There is a tradition, that a natural son of king Richard III. named Richard Plantagenet, sled hither from Leicester immediately after the fatal battle of Bosworth, fought in 1485, in which the king lost both his life and crown, and that he lived here in a mean capacity, having leave given him by Sir Tho. Moyle, as soon as he was discovered by him, to build for himself a small house, in one of his fields near his mansion of Eastwell-place, in which he afterwards lived and died; which is corroborated by an entry of his burial in the parish registry. He died in 1550, anno 4 king Edward VI. aged, as is supposed, about eighty-one. The entry in the parish register is as follows, under the article of burials: V. Richard Plantagenet, December 22d, 1550; the letter V prefixed being put before the name of every person of noble family mentioned in it; and against the north wall of the high chancel there is an ancient tomb, without inscription, with the marks of
> > two coats of arms, the brasses gone, which is reported to be that of this Richard Plantagenet. There was then no park here, but when there was one made, this small hut was included in it, and remained in being till it was pulled down by Heneage, earl of Winchelsea, who died in 1689.
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> > Re: R of Eastwell: Where is Richard of Eastwell buried, I forgot. Just how outrageous is it to hope his body can be examined for determining certain things. What exact purpose might that have? I do wish Ricardians could run around examining all sorts of remains, but there will surely be a stop and start to those supposed efforts. Carol D.
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Yahoo cut off the link. I hope this one works better:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Desiderata_Curiosa

If it doesn't, try searching for "Desiderata Curiosa."

Hope this is more helpful,

Marion

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> Hello Maire,
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> Try this link: http://dictionary.sensagent.com/richard+plantagenet+(richard+of+eastwell)/en-en/
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> There used to be a reproduction of the 18th c. MS that tells this story online, but I can't find it now.
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> Hope this helps,
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> Marion
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> --- In , "mairemulholland" wrote:
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> > Can you tell me anything about the legend that Richard met with him at Bosworth? I love these various legends and myths. Maire.
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> > --- In , david rayner wrote:
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> > > There is a tradition, that a natural son of king Richard III. named Richard Plantagenet, sled hither from Leicester immediately after the fatal battle of Bosworth, fought in 1485, in which the king lost both his life and crown, and that he lived here in a mean capacity, having leave given him by Sir Tho. Moyle, as soon as he was discovered by him, to build for himself a small house, in one of his fields near his mansion of Eastwell-place, in which he afterwards lived and died; which is corroborated by an entry of his burial in the parish registry. He died in 1550, anno 4 king Edward VI. aged, as is supposed, about eighty-one. The entry in the parish register is as follows, under the article of burials: V. Richard Plantagenet, December 22d, 1550; the letter V prefixed being put before the name of every person of noble family mentioned in it; and against the north wall of the high chancel there is an ancient tomb, without inscription, with the marks of
> > > two coats of arms, the brasses gone, which is reported to be that of this Richard Plantagenet. There was then no park here, but when there was one made, this small hut was included in it, and remained in being till it was pulled down by Heneage, earl of Winchelsea, who died in 1689.
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