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Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.





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As the team who found R3 said that he has been undisturbed for over500 years I find it totally implausible to believe that he had been found and reinterred.
Just think about what has happened and the detailed excavation, at no time did they say anything about the site being disturbed apart from H8 and a Victorian out house.
If it sounds too good to be true........
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"It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
 
Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
 
As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before! 
 
 

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Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.



 


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"This has a receding forehead and projecting jaw, attributes of King Richard," the article quotes Mr. L.W. Kershaw, the principal of Leicester Technical College"

I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
George

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> "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
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> Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
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> As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
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> Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
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Hi, Liz, Pamela, and George 

I don't think the story has anything to do with the horse trough, because I don't believe that was ever located in a church.



Also, George, I don't think there's any implication that Richard's body was dug up and reinterred, especially not since 1935!



Receding forehead  like you, Liz, I've never heard of that applied to the Plantagenets, let alone Richard. But the prominent jaw, well, yes that fits.



Also, I'm pretty sure that the Church of St. Mary is not the same as the Church of the Greyfriars Friary, but I'm not an expert on the churches of Leicester.



But the gentleman allegedly in charge of the excavation at the Leicester Technical College is named L. W. Kershaw, and I would think there must be some records at Leicester that would indicate if it was a legitimate event and if the body and coffin might still be there. It sure would be interesting to know who the skeleton might be! (One of the many Plantagenet or Lancaster cousins, perhaps?)



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"It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]

Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?

As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!



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Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.



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"This has a receding forehead and projecting jaw, attributes of King Richard," the article quotes Mr. L.W. Kershaw, the principal of Leicester Technical College"

George 



Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935  certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that we've seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!



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I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
George

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> "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
>
> Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
>
> As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
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> Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.



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George 

Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935  certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that we've seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!

Loyaulte me lie,

Johanne

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I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
George

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> "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
>
> Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
>
> As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
>
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>
> From: Pamela Bain pbain@... >
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> Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.

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I think this goes under the heading of aliens in Roswell, also the supposed stone coffin that had been used as a rose bed was discovered to be a medieval horse trough.
G

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> I don't think the story has anything to do with the horse trough, because I don't believe that was ever located in a church.
>
> Also, George, I don't think there's any implication that Richard's body was dug up and reinterred, especially not since 1935!
>
> Receding forehead  like you, Liz, I've never heard of that applied to the Plantagenets, let alone Richard. But the prominent jaw, well, yes that fits.
>
> Also, I'm pretty sure that the Church of St. Mary is not the same as the Church of the Greyfriars Friary, but I'm not an expert on the churches of Leicester.
>
> But the gentleman allegedly in charge of the excavation at the Leicester Technical College is named L. W. Kershaw, and I would think there must be some records at Leicester that would indicate if it was a legitimate event and if the body and coffin might still be there. It sure would be interesting to know who the skeleton might be! (One of the many Plantagenet or Lancaster cousins, perhaps?)
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
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> "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
>
> Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
>
> As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
>
>
>
> From: Pamela Bain pbain@... >
> To: " " >
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
> Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
>
> Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
>
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> Note: "Richard III's body was announced discovered in 1935. Does anyone know anything about this? Can we find out more from the archeological team in Leicester? Loyaulte, Johanne"
>
> Richard III 'discovery' was reported in 1935, too
> {{var_abstract}}
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> George 
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> Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935  certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that we've seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> Johanne
>
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>
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> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> To:
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>
> I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:36 AM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@... > wrote:
>
> > "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
> >
> > Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
> >
> > As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
> >
> >
> >
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> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
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> > Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
>
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I've had that thought as well. As Dorothy Parker once said about the dead F. Scott Fitzgerald: "Not only are they digging up his bones but they're chewing on them." Maire.

--- In , Hilary Jones wrote:
>
> In my crabbiest moments I wonder why we ever longed for this.Would that our man had remained a mystery or had had a long nose and buck teeth (double wink) Hilary - who still can't get through all the emails
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:56
> Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
>
>  
>
> George â€"
>
> Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935 â€" certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that we’ve seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}
>
> I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:36 AM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@... > wrote:
>
> > "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
> >
> > Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
> >
> > As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Pamela Bain pbain@... >
> > To: " >
> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
> > Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
> >
> >
> > Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities…..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
>
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Alas - that is true. Perhaps when they've struggled as we have they might tire a little; but I do respect those who on here who are patiently explaining things. And who knows, out of all this the odd 'letter from the attic' might emerge. I shall be more positive and learn to read faster !   H. 


________________________________
From: George Butterfield <gbutterf1@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 14:09
Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}

 

No matter how you try the genie will not go back in the bottle......
G

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> In my crabbiest moments I wonder why we ever longed for this.Would that our man had remained a mystery or had had a long nose and buck teeth (double wink) Hilary - who still can't get through all the emails
>
> ________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier jltournier60@...>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:56
> Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
>
>
>
> George 
>
> Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935  certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that we've seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}
>
> I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:36 AM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@... > wrote:
>
> > "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
> >
> > Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
> >
> > As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Pamela Bain pbain@... >
> > To: " >
> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
> > Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
> >
> >
> > Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
>
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Munching, chewing, re-gurgitating .......  (Sorry!) 



________________________________
From: mairemulholland <mairemulholland@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 14:12
Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}

 

I've had that thought as well. As Dorothy Parker once said about the dead F. Scott Fitzgerald: "Not only are they digging up his bones but they're chewing on them." Maire.

--- In , Hilary Jones wrote:
>
> In my crabbiest moments I wonder why we ever longed for this.Would that our man had remained a mystery or had had a long nose and buck teeth (double wink) Hilary - who still can't get through all the emails
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:56
> Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
>
>  
>
> George â¬"
>
> Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935 â¬" certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that weâ¬"ve seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}
>
> I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:36 AM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@... > wrote:
>
> > "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
> >
> > Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
> >
> > As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Pamela Bain pbain@... >
> > To: " >
> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
> > Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
> >
> >
> > Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities⬦..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
>
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Yes, and for everything done in an organized, orderly, scholarly and scientific manner. If this is not meticulously documented and proven it could well end in a fiasco.




From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:43 AM
To:
Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}



I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
George

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:36 AM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@...<mailto:ferrymansdaughter%40btinternet.com>> wrote:

> "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
>
> Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
>
> As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
>
>
>
> From: Pamela Bain pbain@...<mailto:pbain%40bmbi.com>>
> To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
> Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
>
>
> Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
>
>
>
> From: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:18 AM
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: {{var_longtitle}}
>
> mailto:jltournier60%40hotmail.com shared this with you from {{var_sitename}}:
>
> Note: "Richard III's body was announced discovered in 1935. Does anyone know anything about this? Can we find out more from the archeological team in Leicester? Loyaulte, Johanne"
>
> Richard III 'discovery' was reported in 1935, too
> {{var_abstract}}
>
> More: http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/11/16929386-richard-iii-discovery-was-reported-in-1935-too#.URok4mP-sgc.email
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> "This has a receding forehead and projecting jaw, attributes of King Richard," the article quotes Mr. L.W. Kershaw, the principal of Leicester Technical College"
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So very true in this case!

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
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On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:12 AM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:

> I've had that thought as well. As Dorothy Parker once said about the dead F. Scott Fitzgerald: "Not only are they digging up his bones but they're chewing on them." Maire.
>
> --- In , Hilary Jones wrote:
> >
> > In my crabbiest moments I wonder why we ever longed for this.Would that our man had remained a mystery or had had a long nose and buck teeth (double wink) Hilary - who still can't get through all the emails
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Johanne Tournier
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:56
> > Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
> >
> > Â
> >
> > George â¬"
> >
> > Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935 â¬" certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that weâ¬"ve seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!
> >
> > Loyaulte me lie,
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> > Johanne
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Johanne L. Tournier
> >
> > Email - jltournier60@...
> >
> > or jltournier@...
> >
> > "With God, all things are possible."
> >
> > - Jesus of Nazareth
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}
> >
> > I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
> > George
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:36 AM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@... > wrote:
> >
> > > "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
> > >
> > > Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
> > >
> > > As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Pamela Bain pbain@... >
> > > To: " >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
> > > Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
> > >
> > >
> > > Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities⬦..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
> >
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Oh Hilary how I agree with you and have been debating with the idea of posting a message to that effect but thought I would sound like a killjoy after all the general euphoria. The papers are full of jokes about it all and he will now forever be known as 'The King in the car park'...not very respectful. He had been buried in consecrated ground after all, albeit seemingly hurriedly, and I think now that he should have been left there. What good has it done to disturb him after all these years, we have learned little from the discovery and as for that dreadful facial reconstruction....each time I see it I just see Tyrone Dobbs from Coronation Street! Give me the National Portrait Gallery picture every time. I thought at first that the rather strange Philippa had done a good job but now I just think that the whole thing has been a dreadful mistake and the man should just have been left in peace where he was.

--- In , Hilary Jones wrote:
>
> In my crabbiest moments I wonder why we ever longed for this.Would that our man had remained a mystery or had had a long nose and buck teeth (double wink) Hilary - who still can't get through all the emails
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Johanne Tournier
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:56
> Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
>
>  
>
> George â€"
>
> Well, yes, no doubt, but this story dates from 1935 â€" certainly not a time of anything like the RIII mania that we’ve seen recently. I am sure, however, that there will be many oddballs, weirdos, and such, just like us (wink), coming out of the woodwork this year thanks to all the publicity regarding Our King!
>
> Loyaulte me lie,
>
> Johanne
>
> Johanne
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Johanne L. Tournier
>
> Email - jltournier60@...
>
> or jltournier@...
>
> "With God, all things are possible."
>
> - Jesus of Nazareth
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of George Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: {{var_longtitle}}
>
> I find it interesting that as this story develops, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork with their own bits of R3 history. A lot of people would appear to be claiming their 2 min of fame with very little attention to fact. Another good reason for informed debate.
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:36 AM, liz williams ferrymansdaughter@... > wrote:
>
> > "It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]
> >
> > Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?
> >
> > As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Pamela Bain pbain@... >
> > To: " >
> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:25
> > Subject: RE: {{var_longtitle}}
> >
> >
> > Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities…..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
>
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> Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities…..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
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Carol responds:

What got me about the story was that it listed a receding forehead as an identifying feature of Richard's? Where did that slander come from? Not even Shakespeare, the worst of his detractors, ever accused him of that particular feature (which would perhaps have suggested limited intelligence and interfered with his depiction of a brilliantly diabolical schemer).

Carol

If anything, his forehead seems to have been quite gently rounded and a bit low.
Another aspect of his apparently having been almost- for lack of a better word,
and no insult intended- a bit dainty.




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"It reports the discovery of a leaden coffin and skeleton at the ruins of the
church of St. Mary in Leicester. [See Images of the Historical Articles]

Is this anything to do with the coffin/horse trough?

As for "receding forehead", I've never heard that about Richard before!



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Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine
if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the
unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the
ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some
corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was
supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been
dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.

The site where they found the coffin was St Mary's



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As the team who found R3 said that he has been undisturbed for over500 years I find it totally implausible to believe that he had been found and reinterred.
Just think about what has happened and the detailed excavation, at no time did they say anything about the site being disturbed apart from H8 and a Victorian out house.
If it sounds too good to be true........
G

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> Wowsers, that is interesting. So, how do we track down that story, and determine if it was a hoax or reality? Lots of possibilities&..If it was found, the unscrupulous could have removed the coffin, and simply put the bones back in the ground. I cannot imagine that with an actually reported story, there is not some corroboration or dismissal. Since there was a monument at the site where it was supposed that he was thrown into the river, I suppose it could have been dismissed, but I simply cannot imagine why.
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> Note: "Richard III's body was announced discovered in 1935. Does anyone know anything about this? Can we find out more from the archeological team in Leicester? Loyaulte, Johanne"
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I know remains have been dredged up from the river in the past and pronounced to be those of Richard, and there was a skull claimed to be his that John A-H was goig to DNA test to rule it out. None of these things had any sensible provenance.
Marie

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