100 Years War OT
100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 08:55:17
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 08:59:57
Nice arse, though.
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
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Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 09:14:25
I agree and thought the programme was beautiful to watch.
As to handling old books with or without gloves, it wouldn't have been her choice but that of the librarian or whoever is in charge of it. When I was doing my MA at UCL and had the pleasure of looking at really old books. Sometimes you would be made to wear gloves other times you didn't have to. The reason behind this was that there was a view that the gloves themselves held a lot of dirt/chemicals/whatever and that hands were actually cleaner.
One private library near Pall Mall never uses gloves for this reason, so don't blame the presenter!
Jacq
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:59:45 +0000
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Nice arse, though.
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From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum >
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Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crýcy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
As to handling old books with or without gloves, it wouldn't have been her choice but that of the librarian or whoever is in charge of it. When I was doing my MA at UCL and had the pleasure of looking at really old books. Sometimes you would be made to wear gloves other times you didn't have to. The reason behind this was that there was a view that the gloves themselves held a lot of dirt/chemicals/whatever and that hands were actually cleaner.
One private library near Pall Mall never uses gloves for this reason, so don't blame the presenter!
Jacq
To:
CC: paul.bale@...
From: theblackprussian@...
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:59:45 +0000
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Nice arse, though.
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From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum >
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crýcy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 10:42:01
She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
But compared with some she isn't too bad
H.
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
But compared with some she isn't too bad
H.
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 11:07:56
A couple of years ago I did a short course in paleography at a University with a really good collection of medieval documents. We were not allowed to use gloves on the basis that fumbling with covered fingers does far more damage that turning pages with clean hands.
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> As to handling old books with or without gloves, it wouldn't have been her choice but that of the librarian or whoever is in charge of it. When I was doing my MA at UCL and had the pleasure of looking at really old books. Sometimes you would be made to wear gloves other times you didn't have to. The reason behind this was that there was a view that the gloves themselves held a lot of dirt/chemicals/whatever and that hands were actually cleaner.
> One private library near Pall Mall never uses gloves for this reason, so don't blame the presenter!
> Jacq
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> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
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> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
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> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
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> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
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> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
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> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
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> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
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> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
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> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
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> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
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> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
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> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
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> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
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> Froissart paintings in.
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> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
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> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
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> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
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> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
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> the beating the French stuff!
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> I agree and thought the programme was beautiful to watch.
> As to handling old books with or without gloves, it wouldn't have been her choice but that of the librarian or whoever is in charge of it. When I was doing my MA at UCL and had the pleasure of looking at really old books. Sometimes you would be made to wear gloves other times you didn't have to. The reason behind this was that there was a view that the gloves themselves held a lot of dirt/chemicals/whatever and that hands were actually cleaner.
> One private library near Pall Mall never uses gloves for this reason, so don't blame the presenter!
> Jacq
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> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
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> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
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> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
>
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
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> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
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> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
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> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
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> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
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> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
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> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
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> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
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> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
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> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
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> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
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> Froissart paintings in.
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> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
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> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
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> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
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> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
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> the beating the French stuff!
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> Richard Liveth Yet!
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Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 12:49:42
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
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> H.
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> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
> Cc: paul.bale@...
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
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> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
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> Richard Liveth Yet!
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Richard Liveth Yet!
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
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> H.
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> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
> Cc: paul.bale@...
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
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> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 14:55:54
At least she did not use a mattock to open the book!
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On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
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> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum >
> Cc: paul.bale@...
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
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>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
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Sent from my iPad
On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
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> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum >
> Cc: paul.bale@...
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
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> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
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Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-18 20:03:41
Regarding the reaction shots; most interviews are recorded with just one camera, and the "reactions" of the interviewer are shot long after the interviewee has left.
They're known in the trade as "noddies", and are used to cover edits in the recording.
So an inexperienced presenter may well look empty eyed in reaction shots, because she'd being asked to "react" to thin air.
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Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
They're known in the trade as "noddies", and are used to cover edits in the recording.
So an inexperienced presenter may well look empty eyed in reaction shots, because she'd being asked to "react" to thin air.
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To: RichardIIISociety forum <>
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
Subject: 100 Years War OT
Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
Froissart paintings in.
Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
the beating the French stuff!
Paul
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-20 21:59:06
She did the secret lives of medieval kings - from their book collections. It was enjoyable, quite a bit about Edward's collection and then straight on to the Tudors of course (medieval?). You can probably get it on UTube - it's worth watching. I know some people on here have said gloves are dirty but it was pretty nasty watching TR's hands turning the pages of R's books. BTW I think Bernard Hepton made The Six Wives. Cranmer will always be him to me.
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-20 21:59:24
I haven't seen it yet (too busy reading e mails!) and will miss tonight as well but I've seen her before. I can't for the life of me think what, but I thought it was a history programme - may be it was Art History? (Medieval manuscripts?) She looks like someone I used to work with which is why I remember her.
Liz
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
Liz
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Cc: paul.bale@...
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-20 22:26:16
It was interesting last night because Dr Wilkinson (?) of the facial re-construction was there handling the severed skull of Sudbury victim of the Peasants' Revolt and showing us where it had been partially severed - some skin was still on the face. Gruesome, but a good example of how scientists and commentators sometimes forget the humanity.
She of the difficult name did the Secret Life of Medieval Kings - about their books.
________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Cc: "paul.bale@..." <paul.bale@...>
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 13:40
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
I haven't seen it yet (too busy reading e mails!) and will miss tonight as well but I've seen her before. I can't for the life of me think what, but I thought it was a history programme - may be it was Art History? (Medieval manuscripts?) She looks like someone I used to work with which is why I remember her.
Liz
From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
She of the difficult name did the Secret Life of Medieval Kings - about their books.
________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Cc: "paul.bale@..." <paul.bale@...>
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 13:40
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
I haven't seen it yet (too busy reading e mails!) and will miss tonight as well but I've seen her before. I can't for the life of me think what, but I thought it was a history programme - may be it was Art History? (Medieval manuscripts?) She looks like someone I used to work with which is why I remember her.
Liz
From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-21 02:17:07
I can confirm that the gloves left out for use in the National Archives are usually filthy,
Marie
--- In , Jacqueline Harvey <jacqharvey@...> wrote:
>
>
> I agree and thought the programme was beautiful to watch.
> As to handling old books with or without gloves, it wouldn't have been her choice but that of the librarian or whoever is in charge of it. When I was doing my MA at UCL and had the pleasure of looking at really old books. Sometimes you would be made to wear gloves other times you didn't have to. The reason behind this was that there was a view that the gloves themselves held a lot of dirt/chemicals/whatever and that hands were actually cleaner.
> One private library near Pall Mall never uses gloves for this reason, so don't blame the presenter!
> Jacq
>
> To:
> CC: paul.bale@...
> From: theblackprussian@...
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:59:45 +0000
> Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
>
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> Nice arse, though.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum >
>
> Cc: paul.bale@...
>
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
>
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
>
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
>
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
>
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
>
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
>
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
>
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
>
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
>
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
>
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
>
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
>
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
>
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
>
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
>
> Froissart paintings in.
>
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
>
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
>
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
>
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
>
> the beating the French stuff!
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Marie
--- In , Jacqueline Harvey <jacqharvey@...> wrote:
>
>
> I agree and thought the programme was beautiful to watch.
> As to handling old books with or without gloves, it wouldn't have been her choice but that of the librarian or whoever is in charge of it. When I was doing my MA at UCL and had the pleasure of looking at really old books. Sometimes you would be made to wear gloves other times you didn't have to. The reason behind this was that there was a view that the gloves themselves held a lot of dirt/chemicals/whatever and that hands were actually cleaner.
> One private library near Pall Mall never uses gloves for this reason, so don't blame the presenter!
> Jacq
>
> To:
> CC: paul.bale@...
> From: theblackprussian@...
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:59:45 +0000
> Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
>
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> Nice arse, though.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Paul Trevor Bale paul.bale@...>
>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum >
>
> Cc: paul.bale@...
>
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
>
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
>
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
>
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
>
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
>
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
>
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
>
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
>
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
>
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
>
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
>
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
>
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
>
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
>
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
>
> Froissart paintings in.
>
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
>
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
>
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
>
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
>
> the beating the French stuff!
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
Re: 100 Years War OT
2013-02-21 16:53:14
Janina Ramirez.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hilary Jones
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
It was interesting last night because Dr Wilkinson (?) of the facial re-construction was there handling the severed skull of Sudbury victim of the Peasants' Revolt and showing us where it had been partially severed - some skin was still on the face. Gruesome, but a good example of how scientists and commentators sometimes forget the humanity.
She of the difficult name did the Secret Life of Medieval Kings - about their books.
________________________________
From: liz williams ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" >
Cc: "paul.bale@..." paul.bale@...>
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 13:40
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I haven't seen it yet (too busy reading e mails!) and will miss tonight as well but I've seen her before. I can't for the life of me think what, but I thought it was a history programme - may be it was Art History? (Medieval manuscripts?) She looks like someone I used to work with which is why I remember her.
Liz
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Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
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> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
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> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
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From: Hilary Jones
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
It was interesting last night because Dr Wilkinson (?) of the facial re-construction was there handling the severed skull of Sudbury victim of the Peasants' Revolt and showing us where it had been partially severed - some skin was still on the face. Gruesome, but a good example of how scientists and commentators sometimes forget the humanity.
She of the difficult name did the Secret Life of Medieval Kings - about their books.
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Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 13:40
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
I haven't seen it yet (too busy reading e mails!) and will miss tonight as well but I've seen her before. I can't for the life of me think what, but I thought it was a history programme - may be it was Art History? (Medieval manuscripts?) She looks like someone I used to work with which is why I remember her.
Liz
From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 12:49
Subject: Re: 100 Years War OT
Tony Robinson not using gloves I can understand as he's a tosser who
knows no better. However as her major interest isn't history perhaps
somebody should have told her. Would she handle an original Da Vinci
without gloves? I doubt it.
Where have you seen her before? She is very new to me.
Still looking forward to the rest of the series though.
Paul
On 18/02/2013 10:42, Hilary Jones wrote:
> She's English Lit and Art History Paul. I've seen her before. Using the tablet seems to be her thing. As for lack of gloves, Tony Robinson did the same with Richard's books!
> But compared with some she isn't too bad
>
> H.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>
> To: RichardIIISociety forum mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 8:55
> Subject: 100 Years War OT
>
>
>
>
> Providing good background to 15th century studies and attitudes the the
> French the BBC began a series on the Hundred Years War this past week.
> Some beautiful visuals, and great historians taking us through the
> events, Nigel Saul at Crécy was great, I did however find myself more
> and more distracted by the presenters hands, that waved all over the
> place, and her attempts to speak French. Judging by her accent she
> doesn't, and by her reaction shots during one interview with a French
> historian on top of the Chateau at Caen, she doesn't understand much
> either. Each time we saw her, her eyes were totally blank.
> I'm also not that sure about having medieval images presented to us on a
> tablet. I'd have preferred to see the originals, anmd again I take to
> task anyone calling themself a historian who handles 500 years old
> documents without gloves! The young lady wore them when handling the
> pariliamentary rolls, but not the illustrated books with the gorgeous
> Froissart paintings in.
> Still she is very enthusiastic about her subject and doe know her stuff,
> so I put most of it down to being a tv virgin, so I look forward to the
> rest of the series. Let's hope next episode when she deals with the man
> she called "hero", Henry V, that she dishes the dirt on him along with
> the beating the French stuff!
> Paul
>
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
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