Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 18:47:32
I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a great fit.

Christine
Loyaulte me Lie

PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a great deal.

Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 19:15:41
EileenB
Im truly sorry I couldnt and now you mention about the computer generation I feel even worse...Still...so glad you enjoyed it. Eileen

--- In , "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
>
> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a great fit.
>
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a great deal.
>

Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 19:16:40
Pamela Bain
OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how the skull fits with the portrait.

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Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match



I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a great fit.

Christine
Loyaulte me Lie

PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a great deal.



Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 20:05:32
A J Hibbard
Maybe something like this?

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos

A J


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely
> understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to
> follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how
> the skull fits with the portrait.
>
> ________________________________
> From: [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of
> christineholmes651@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
> To:
> Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait
> Gallery portrait match
>
>
> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long
> details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and
> get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer
> generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait
> Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a
> great fit.
>
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a
> great deal.
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 20:17:03
carole hughes
The picture shown at Conference (not the best picture but the best I could do )

Carole


________________________________
From: A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:05
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

Maybe something like this?

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos

A J


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely
> understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to
> follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how
> the skull fits with the portrait.
>
> ________________________________
> From: [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of
> christineholmes651@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
> To:
> Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait
> Gallery portrait match
>
>
> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long
> details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and
> get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer
> generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait
> Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a
> great fit.
>
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a
> great deal.
>
>
>

>






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Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 20:21:56
carole hughes
Sorry
              The attachment is not showing

Carole


________________________________
From: carole hughes <caroleugis@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:16
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match


 
The picture shown at Conference (not the best picture but the best I could do )

Carole

________________________________
From: A J Hibbard ajhibbard@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:05
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

Maybe something like this?

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos

A J

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Bain pbain@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely
> understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to
> follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how
> the skull fits with the portrait.
>
> ________________________________
> From: [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of
> christineholmes651@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
> To:
> Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait
> Gallery portrait match
>
>
> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long
> details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and
> get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer
> generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait
> Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a
> great fit.
>
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a
> great deal.
>
>
>

>



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Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 20:22:32
mcjohn\_wt\_net
Seems likely we will; someone mentioned there were about eleven billion cameras there.

--- In , Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:
>
> OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how the skull fits with the portrait.
>
> ________________________________
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of christineholmes651@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
> To:
> Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match
>
>
>
> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a great fit.
>
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a great deal.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 20:34:06
carole hughes
I've now placed the photo in the photo folder on the Richard III Society Group nin Yahoo

Carole


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From: carole hughes <caroleugis@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:21
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match


 
Sorry
              The attachment is not showing

Carole

________________________________
From: carole hughes caroleugis@...>
To: "" >
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:16
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match


 
The picture shown at Conference (not the best picture but the best I could do )

Carole

________________________________
From: A J Hibbard ajhibbard@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:05
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

Maybe something like this?

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos

A J

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Bain pbain@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely
> understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to
> follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how
> the skull fits with the portrait.
>
> ________________________________
> From: [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of
> christineholmes651@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
> To:
> Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait
> Gallery portrait match
>
>
> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long
> details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and
> get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer
> generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait
> Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a
> great fit.
>
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a
> great deal.
>
>
>

>



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Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 20:39:56
Stephen Lark
You will need to post it as a File.
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Sorry
The attachment is not showing

Carole

________________________________
From: carole hughes caroleugis@...>
To: "" >
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:16
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match



The picture shown at Conference (not the best picture but the best I could do )

Carole

________________________________
From: A J Hibbard ajhibbard@...>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:05
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

Maybe something like this?

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos

A J

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Bain pbain@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely
> understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to
> follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how
> the skull fits with the portrait.
>
> ________________________________
> From: [mailto:
> ] On Behalf Of
> christineholmes651@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
> To:
> Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait
> Gallery portrait match
>
>
> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long
> details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and
> get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer
> generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait
> Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a
> great fit.
>
> Christine
> Loyaulte me Lie
>
> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a
> great deal.
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: Richard's skull and National PortraitGallery portrait match

2013-03-03 21:23:47
Pamela Bain
Oh that is super........ And really amazing. Thanks for posting that.

On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:09 PM, "A J Hibbard" <ajhibbard@...> wrote:

> Maybe something like this?
>
> http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos
>
> A J
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely
>> understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to
>> follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how
>> the skull fits with the portrait.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: [mailto:
>> ] On Behalf Of
>> christineholmes651@...
>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait
>> Gallery portrait match
>>
>>
>> I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long
>> details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and
>> get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
>> It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
>> One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer
>> generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait
>> Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a
>> great fit.
>>
>> Christine
>> Loyaulte me Lie
>>
>> PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a
>> great deal.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-03 22:11:26
Claire M Jordan
From: "A J Hibbard" <ajhibbard@...>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National
Portrait Gallery portrait match


> Maybe something like this?
>
> http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos

It's an excellent match, although the position of the eyes is slightly off.
I've just tried to do the same thing with the SoA portriat in ImageFolio:
it's harder to do because the angle isn't quite right, but that too seems to
be a very good match except that the original artist or the copier has
positioned his right cheek too high.

Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-04 10:26:46
Sorry if attatchment not showing but the link does show the picture I tried to get which was very difficult at the time. You will however see what I mean about the match.
Christine
Loyaute me Lie
Christine

--- In , carole hughes <caroleugis@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry
>               The attachment is not showing
>
> Carole
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: carole hughes <caroleugis@...>
> To: "" <>
> Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:16
> Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match
>
>
>  
> The picture shown at Conference (not the best picture but the best I could do )
>
> Carole
>
> ________________________________
> From: A J Hibbard ajhibbard@...>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 20:05
> Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match
>
> Maybe something like this?
>
> http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos
>
> A J
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Bain pbain@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > OK, just make us turn blue holding our collective breaths! I absolutely
> > understand, and think reflection before presentation is a good rule to
> > follow on most everything - especially this. WOW, I hope we get to see how
> > the skull fits with the portrait.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [mailto:
> > ] On Behalf Of
> > christineholmes651@...
> > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:46 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Richard's skull and National Portrait
> > Gallery portrait match
> >
> >
> > I attended the Leicester conference on Saturday, I am not going into long
> > details at this time as I have still to get my head around some of it and
> > get it straight so I can do a report on the information we all got.
> > It was a great day and I enjoyed most of it very much.
> > One thing I will tell you now is that Caroline showed us a computer
> > generation of how Richard's skull fitted well into the National Portrait
> > Gallery portrait of Richard, the one by unknown artist. It was wonderful, a
> > great fit.
> >
> > Christine
> > Loyaulte me Lie
> >
> > PS It's a great pity you could not all be there you would have learnt a
> > great deal.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Richard's skull and National Portrait Gallery portrait match

2013-03-04 10:35:25
Hello Just thought you might like to know that Caroline said that Richard's eye sockets were not deep set, I was there at the conference. More to come when I have collated the info.
Bit tired at the moment, was a long weekend.
Christine

--- In , "Claire M Jordan" <whitehound@...> wrote:
>
> From: "A J Hibbard" <ajhibbard@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Richard's skull and National
> Portrait Gallery portrait match
>
>
> > Maybe something like this?
> >
> > http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/found-skeleton-remains-are-king-richard-iii-dna-and-facial-reconstruction-leave-no-doubt-photos
>
> It's an excellent match, although the position of the eyes is slightly off.
> I've just tried to do the same thing with the SoA portriat in ImageFolio:
> it's harder to do because the angle isn't quite right, but that too seems to
> be a very good match except that the original artist or the copier has
> positioned his right cheek too high.
>
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