Lambert Simnel Conspiracy

Good Morning,
Marie,
The details of the book I refered to earlier was:-
A STRANGE ACCIDENT OF STATE Henry VII and the Lambert Simnel
Conspiracy.
Written by :- DAVID BEESTON (Lecturer in History South
Nottinghamshire College).
First Published 1987.
Published by David Beeston.
Printed by Birchwood Publications,Somercotes,Derbyshire.
Cost £1.95 (yes one pound 95p)
Pages 63.

I will have to re-read.
Definately value for money.I think because of your great knowledge of
the subject,he might not produce anything new to you.But,if you do
purchase a copy, I would like to read your critique. Not just to
balance the facts but learn how its done.
Kind regards,
Dave.
PS I think I bought it from Amazon

--- In , mowbraynotts
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Good Morning,
> Marie,
> The details of the book I refered to earlier was:-
> A STRANGE ACCIDENT OF STATE Henry VII and the Lambert Simnel
> Conspiracy.
> Written by :- DAVID BEESTON (Lecturer in History South
> Nottinghamshire College).
> First Published 1987.
> Published by David Beeston.
> Printed by Birchwood Publications,Somercotes,Derbyshire.
> Cost £1.95 (yes one pound 95p)
> Pages 63.
>
> I will have to re-read.
> Definately value for money.I think because of your great knowledge
of
> the subject,he might not produce anything new to you.But,if you do
> purchase a copy, I would like to read your critique. Not just to
> balance the facts but learn how its done.
> Kind regards,
> Dave.
> PS I think I bought it from Amazon

Thanks. I can afford that! Just ordered.

Marie

PS. I really don't know that much. I've done a quick sort of burrow-
in using rhe marterial I could find, but I've tended to ignore
Henry's reign in the past so I don't feel that well grounded.

I'm now reading Anne Wote's 'Perkin'. It's a lot harder to pull the
info out of, but very well written.
She seems to cheat a bit, putting first one version then another,
without any real attempt to evaluate the various sources. She gets
round this by using a sort of literary, dreamlike style, in which
you're almost encouraged to believe in make-believe. Not, finally,
very satisfying, though. I wish people would have the courage to say
plainly when they find the accepted academic line doesn't fit the
facts.
Anyway, I read last night that there is a mention of "the Earl of
Warwick from England" in Margaret of Burgundy's household accounts
for 1486. Wroe doesn't give a date. She argues that because Simnel
never went to Burgundy it must be someone else, perhaps Warbeck (thus
she can argue that since they changed his official identity he was a
fake), but that seems to me to be putting the cart before the horse.
I don't think there is any other evidence as to where 'Simnel' was
between spring of 1486 (Channel Isles) and the end of the year
(Ireland). So, depending on the date, this could well be him.
Certainly, Lincoln's first idea when he fled from Henry's court in
February 1487 was to go to Burgundy.

I've also been thinking again about the herald's (was his, wasn't it)
quote that Lincoln said in Flanders he knew well what Warwick looked
like because he saw him every day at Shene. This doesn't make any
sense, does it? He wouldn't be saying he knew well what Warwick
looked like because at Shene he saw the boy Henry had brought from
the Tower: because he already knew what he looked like because during
Richard's reign he had indeed seen him every day at Sheriff Hutton;
nor, for the same reason, would he have said that he knew what Warick
looked like because during Edward's reign he'd seen him every day at
Shene (though Warwick lived at Shene then, Lincoln didn't - I don't
think -, so I guess didn't become really familiar with him until
Richard's reign.
So is Sheriff Hutton the place he actually meant? After all, Shene
and Sheriff Hutton both start with a Shuh and end with a Nuh, and
this information may have been passed to Henry's agents by Burgundian
informers who weren't familiar with either the English language or
the placenames in question. . .
In which case presumably Lincoln actually said that "he knew very
well what Warwick looked like, having seen him every day at Sheriff
Hutton", and the boy Henry displayed was not Warwick . . ????

Marie