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Re: to Pansy..re: effigies: With all of the wonderful minute information provided to all of us on the Forum: regarding the existence of the effigies of the Dudleys in Warwick, can someone provide an image for us? Carol D.

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Kind Regards,
 
Arthur.



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>Re: to Pansy..re: effigies: With all of the wonderful minute information provided to all of us on the Forum: regarding the existence of the effigies of the Dudleys in Warwick, can someone provide an image for us? Carol D.
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Oh, that is lovely...... I can see not fitting for the Leicester Cathedral, but glorious. It WOULD be perfect in a side chapel. But, oh my, I am certain that would run in the millions to build, and take some time to complete.

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Kind Regards,

Arthur.

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The centrepiece is of course Richard Beauchamp, Anne's grandfather. Her mother and father appear as weepers round the tomb. It is a beautiful place, and as the humdrum from the main church goes on in the main church (which is a big tourist spot) still preserves some calm. But then I'm biased, I'm from Warwickshire and it is pretty, but not overly full, depending on the type of memorial. It wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but it is more fitting for 'quiet contemplation' than the middle of a cathedral which is emphasising its 21st century links.  



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Oh, that is lovely...... I can see not fitting for the Leicester Cathedral, but glorious. It WOULD be perfect in a side chapel. But, oh my, I am certain that would run in the millions to build, and take some time to complete.

On Mar 14, 2013, at 7:08 AM, "Arthurian" <lancastrian@...<mailto:lancastrian@...>> wrote:



http://www.stmaryswarwick.org.uk/index.php?/stmarys/history_architecture


Kind Regards,

Arthur.

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> Oh, that is lovely...... I can see not fitting for the Leicester
> Cathedral, but glorious. It WOULD be perfect in a side chapel. But, oh my,
> I am certain that would run in the millions to build, and take some time
> to complete.

Very nice. But even a plain and simple small side-chapel, say 15ft by 20ft,
added at either Leicester or Sutton Cheney and containing a medium-sized
table tomb for Richard (a very large one would look like over-compensation,
considering how short he was!), a small altar and some pews would enormously
increase the revenue of whatever church it was added to because people would
come from all over the world wanting to be married in Richard's presence,
and the church could reasonably ask for a donation.

I love the place....being a Warwickshire girl Hilary you probably know that is where the townspeople went with anything they could carry when the town of Warwick was burning down. That is why most of the buildings..not all thankfully..are Georgian Eileen

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Yes, most of the church burned down, so we're lucky to still have the chapel. As I once said to Karen I wore the bear and ragged staff on my blazer for a few years. And the Castle Balti opposite the castle walls is pretty good too - Warwick moves with the times! 



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I love the place....being a Warwickshire girl Hilary you probably know that is where the townspeople went with anything they could carry when the town of Warwick was burning down. That is why most of the buildings..not all thankfully..are Georgian Eileen

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> The centrepiece is of course Richard Beauchamp, Anne's grandfather. Her mother and father appear as weepers round the tomb. It is a beautiful place, and as the humdrum from the main church goes on in the main church (which is a big tourist spot) still preserves some calm. But then I'm biased, I'm from Warwickshire and it is pretty, but not overly full, depending on the type of memorial. It wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but it is more fitting for 'quiet contemplation' than the middle of a cathedral which is emphasising its 21st century links.  
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> Oh, that is lovely...... I can see not fitting for the Leicester Cathedral, but glorious. It WOULD be perfect in a side chapel. But, oh my, I am certain that would run in the millions to build, and take some time to complete.
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What a beautiful church!!

Ishita Bandyo
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On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> The centrepiece is of course Richard Beauchamp, Anne's grandfather. Her mother and father appear as weepers round the tomb. It is a beautiful place, and as the humdrum from the main church goes on in the main church (which is a big tourist spot) still preserves some calm. But then I'm biased, I'm from Warwickshire and it is pretty, but not overly full, depending on the type of memorial. It wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but it is more fitting for 'quiet contemplation' than the middle of a cathedral which is emphasising its 21st century links.
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> From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
> To: "<>
> Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2013, 14:20
> Subject: Re: effigies
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> Oh, that is lovely...... I can see not fitting for the Leicester Cathedral, but glorious. It WOULD be perfect in a side chapel. But, oh my, I am certain that would run in the millions to build, and take some time to complete.
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I was 'Very Touched' by the Effigy of Dudley's Son 'The Impe' who died in childhood, what a pity it wasn't his stepson the Earl of Essex!!

His accusing of Elizabeth's Jewish/Portuguese Physician, Dr. Lopez of poisoning her, which resulted in the poor man being 'Hung, Drawn & Quartered' unjustly. 

Not an episode that reflects well on Elizabeth, either, I am sorry to say.

The Bard may have used Lopez as a model for Shylock,
 
Kind Regards,
 
Arthur.



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> From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>
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>Yes, most of the church burned down, so we're lucky to still have the chapel. As I once said to Karen I wore the bear and ragged staff on my blazer for a few years. And the Castle Balti opposite the castle walls is pretty good too - Warwick moves with the times! 
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>From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
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>--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
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>> The centrepiece is of course Richard Beauchamp, Anne's grandfather. Her mother and father appear as weepers round the tomb. It is a beautiful place, and as the humdrum from the main church goes on in the main church (which is a big tourist spot) still preserves some calm. But then I'm biased, I'm from Warwickshire and it is pretty, but not overly full, depending on the type of memorial. It wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but it is more fitting for 'quiet contemplation' than the middle of a cathedral which is emphasising its 21st century links.  
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>> To: "<mailto:%40yahoogroups.commailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2013, 14:20
>> Subject: Re: effigies
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>> Oh, that is lovely...... I can see not fitting for the Leicester Cathedral, but glorious. It WOULD be perfect in a side chapel. But, oh my, I am certain that would run in the millions to build, and take some time to complete.
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>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 7:08 AM, "Arthurian" <lancastrian@...<mailto:lancastrian@...>> wrote:
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>> http://www.stmaryswarwick.org.uk/index.php?/stmarys/history_architecture
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>> Kind Regards,
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>> Arthur.
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From: Arthurian
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> Not an episode that reflects well on Elizabeth, either, I am sorry to say.

And one which compares badly with Richard knighting his Portuguese Jewish
sea captain Brampton.