OT-Black Death Burials Unearthed

Just came across this for those who are interested.
Pamela Garrett


http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/world/europe/uk-london-skeletons/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

I saw this! Something like 50,000 remains. The ones shown in the photos all look like my king. Maire.

--- In , Pamela Garrett <ownwrite101@...> wrote:
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> Just came across this for those who are interested.
> Pamela Garrett
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> http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/world/europe/uk-london-skeletons/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
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How come they look like they have twisted spines? I am thinking that Richard's spine now looks much worse than when he was alive( of course he had the spinal abnormality)...... Even though it sounds unscientific , can we completely rule out the weight of the dirt to be responsible for the pronounced curvature?


Ishita Bandyo
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On Mar 15, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "mairemulholland" <mairemulholland@...> wrote:

> I saw this! Something like 50,000 remains. The ones shown in the photos all look like my king. Maire.
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> --- In , Pamela Garrett <ownwrite101@...> wrote:
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> > Just came across this for those who are interested.
> > Pamela Garrett
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> > http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/world/europe/uk-london-skeletons/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
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From: Ishita Bandyo
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: Re: OT-Black Death Burials
Unearthed


> How come they look like they have twisted spines? I am thinking that
> Richard's spine now looks much worse than when he was alive( of course he
> had the spinal abnormality)...... Even though it sounds unscientific , can
> we completely rule out the weight of the dirt to be responsible for the
> pronounced curvature?

Given that he was buried half sitting, I would have thought his spine would
probably be pushed a bit more out of true by his own weight as his bones
settled downwards - but it probably wouldn't make it much worse than it was.

Probably not. What about the spine of the skeletons found? They look twisted to me. Or maybe I am projecting R3's condition to all and sundry skeletons!

Ishita Bandyo
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On Mar 15, 2013, at 6:32 PM, "Claire M Jordan" <whitehound@...> wrote:

> From: Ishita Bandyo
> To:
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: OT-Black Death Burials
> Unearthed
>
> > How come they look like they have twisted spines? I am thinking that
> > Richard's spine now looks much worse than when he was alive( of course he
> > had the spinal abnormality)...... Even though it sounds unscientific , can
> > we completely rule out the weight of the dirt to be responsible for the
> > pronounced curvature?
>
> Given that he was buried half sitting, I would have thought his spine would
> probably be pushed a bit more out of true by his own weight as his bones
> settled downwards - but it probably wouldn't make it much worse than it was.
>
>

I thought the same, but have had a glass of wine, so I reconsidered. Thanks for making me sober and seeing what I thought I saw.

On Mar 15, 2013, at 5:26 PM, "Ishita Bandyo" <bandyoi@...<mailto:bandyoi@...>> wrote:



Probably not. What about the spine of the skeletons found? They look twisted to me. Or maybe I am projecting R3's condition to all and sundry skeletons!

Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad

On Mar 15, 2013, at 6:32 PM, "Claire M Jordan" <whitehound@...<mailto:whitehound%40madasafish.com>> wrote:

> From: Ishita Bandyo
> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: OT-Black Death Burials
> Unearthed
>
> > How come they look like they have twisted spines? I am thinking that
> > Richard's spine now looks much worse than when he was alive( of course he
> > had the spinal abnormality)...... Even though it sounds unscientific , can
> > we completely rule out the weight of the dirt to be responsible for the
> > pronounced curvature?
>
> Given that he was buried half sitting, I would have thought his spine would
> probably be pushed a bit more out of true by his own weight as his bones
> settled downwards - but it probably wouldn't make it much worse than it was.
>
>

very interested thank you.   Liz
 
Lizzy Foley  SEMPER EADEM..

"Claire M Jordan" wrote:

> Given that he was buried half sitting, I would have thought his spine would probably be pushed a bit more out of true by his own weight as his bones settled downwards - but it probably wouldn't make it much worse than it was.

Carol responds:

I think your first point is the key one, especially given that he was also pushed into a too-short grave, and brings us back to the need for an upright, articulated replica to see how it would have appeared in life. Any conclusion based on the position of the bones in the grave, or worse, the two-dimensional layout on the table, is, in my opinion, premature.

Carol