Richard as Admiral
Richard as Admiral
2013-04-09 20:52:39
Has anyone encountered any material giving any detail about Richard as
Admiral?
A J
Admiral?
A J
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-09 20:54:25
Somewhere in the tiny little brain cells, I seem to remember seeing/reading that. Doubtless, others will know book, chapter, page and paragraph, if so!
From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of A J Hibbard
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:53 PM
To:
Subject: Richard as Admiral
Has anyone encountered any material giving any detail about Richard as
Admiral?
A J
From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of A J Hibbard
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:53 PM
To:
Subject: Richard as Admiral
Has anyone encountered any material giving any detail about Richard as
Admiral?
A J
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-10 00:51:37
A J Hibbard wrote:
>
> Has anyone encountered any material giving any detail about Richard as Admiral?
Carol responds:
What sort of information are you looking for? The date of his appointment would be easy enough to find, but what his specific duties were and how many of them he delegated to others, I don't know. I remember reading somewhere that he had a reputation for skill in naval warfare, which must relate to Scotland, but I don't recall where I read that.
Carol
>
> Has anyone encountered any material giving any detail about Richard as Admiral?
Carol responds:
What sort of information are you looking for? The date of his appointment would be easy enough to find, but what his specific duties were and how many of them he delegated to others, I don't know. I remember reading somewhere that he had a reputation for skill in naval warfare, which must relate to Scotland, but I don't recall where I read that.
Carol
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-10 04:53:42
Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in, since I
haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers
previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
A J
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:51 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
>
> A J Hibbard wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone encountered any material giving any detail about Richard as
> Admiral?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> What sort of information are you looking for? The date of his appointment
> would be easy enough to find, but what his specific duties were and how
> many of them he delegated to others, I don't know. I remember reading
> somewhere that he had a reputation for skill in naval warfare, which must
> relate to Scotland, but I don't recall where I read that.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers
previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
A J
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:51 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
>
> A J Hibbard wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone encountered any material giving any detail about Richard as
> Admiral?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> What sort of information are you looking for? The date of his appointment
> would be easy enough to find, but what his specific duties were and how
> many of them he delegated to others, I don't know. I remember reading
> somewhere that he had a reputation for skill in naval warfare, which must
> relate to Scotland, but I don't recall where I read that.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-10 18:12:54
A J Hibbard wrote:
>
> Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in, since I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
Carol responds:
I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about 1160 to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just encountered the reference in another post.
http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional information.
Carol
>
> Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in, since I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
Carol responds:
I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about 1160 to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just encountered the reference in another post.
http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional information.
Carol
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-10 18:36:10
Thanks much - those references are very helpful.
A J
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> A J Hibbard wrote:
> >
> > Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in, since
> I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers
> previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
> as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
> Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
>
> It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
> that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
>
> Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
> the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
> Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about 1160
> to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
> encountered the reference in another post.
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
>
> Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
> information.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
A J
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> A J Hibbard wrote:
> >
> > Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in, since
> I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers
> previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
> as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
> Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
>
> It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
> that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
>
> Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
> the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
> Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about 1160
> to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
> encountered the reference in another post.
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
>
> Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
> information.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-11 00:35:47
Btw the article by Jones is in The Ricardian, Vol.XII, No.153 (June 2001), pp.275-292, which quite a few people on this forum should have.
Cheers,
Dorothea
________________________________
From: A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Richard as Admiral
Thanks much - those references are very helpful.
A J
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> A J Hibbard wrote:
> >
> > Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in, since
> I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers
> previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
> as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
> Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
>
> It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
> that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
>
> Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
> the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
> Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about 1160
> to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
> encountered the reference in another post.
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
>
> Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
> information.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
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Yahoo! Groups Links
Cheers,
Dorothea
________________________________
From: A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Richard as Admiral
Thanks much - those references are very helpful.
A J
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> A J Hibbard wrote:
> >
> > Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in, since
> I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone remembers
> previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
>
> Carol responds:
>
> I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
> as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
> Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
>
> It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
> that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
>
> Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
> the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
> Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about 1160
> to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
> encountered the reference in another post.
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
>
> Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
> information.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-11 00:42:43
Ahh. well perhaps if someone has it electronically, s/he could send it to
me - I don't have access to the Ricardian, as far as I can tell.
A J
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Dorothea Preis
<dorotheapreis@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Btw the article by Jones is in The Ricardian, Vol.XII, No.153 (June 2001),
> pp.275-292, which quite a few people on this forum should have.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dorothea
>
> ________________________________
> From: A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Richard as Admiral
>
>
>
> Thanks much - those references are very helpful.
>
> A J
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > A J Hibbard wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in,
> since
> > I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone
> remembers
> > previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
> > as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
> > Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
> >
> > It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
> > that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
> >
> > Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
> > the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
> > Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about
> 1160
> > to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
> > encountered the reference in another post.
> >
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
> >
> > Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
> > information.
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
me - I don't have access to the Ricardian, as far as I can tell.
A J
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Dorothea Preis
<dorotheapreis@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Btw the article by Jones is in The Ricardian, Vol.XII, No.153 (June 2001),
> pp.275-292, which quite a few people on this forum should have.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dorothea
>
> ________________________________
> From: A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Richard as Admiral
>
>
>
> Thanks much - those references are very helpful.
>
> A J
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > A J Hibbard wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in,
> since
> > I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone
> remembers
> > previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
> >
> > Carol responds:
> >
> > I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
> > as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
> > Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
> >
> > It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
> > that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
> >
> > Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
> > the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
> > Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about
> 1160
> > to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
> > encountered the reference in another post.
> >
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
> >
> > Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
> > information.
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Richard as Admiral
2013-04-11 01:30:59
Is there an online archive with all the bulletins?
Btw, I was stunned when I came back after two days and had to go through only 50 emails!!! These emails are my nightly readings:/
Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:42 PM, A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...> wrote:
> Ahh. well perhaps if someone has it electronically, s/he could send it to
> me - I don't have access to the Ricardian, as far as I can tell.
>
> A J
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Dorothea Preis
> <dorotheapreis@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Btw the article by Jones is in The Ricardian, Vol.XII, No.153 (June 2001),
>> pp.275-292, which quite a few people on this forum should have.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dorothea
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re: Richard as Admiral
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much - those references are very helpful.
>>
>> A J
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A J Hibbard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in,
>> since
>>> I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone
>> remembers
>>> previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
>>>
>>> Carol responds:
>>>
>>> I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
>>> as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
>>> Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
>>>
>>> It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
>>> that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
>>>
>>> Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
>>> the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
>>> Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about
>> 1160
>>> to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
>>> encountered the reference in another post.
>>>
>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
>>>
>>> Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Btw, I was stunned when I came back after two days and had to go through only 50 emails!!! These emails are my nightly readings:/
Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:42 PM, A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...> wrote:
> Ahh. well perhaps if someone has it electronically, s/he could send it to
> me - I don't have access to the Ricardian, as far as I can tell.
>
> A J
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Dorothea Preis
> <dorotheapreis@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Btw the article by Jones is in The Ricardian, Vol.XII, No.153 (June 2001),
>> pp.275-292, which quite a few people on this forum should have.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dorothea
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re: Richard as Admiral
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much - those references are very helpful.
>>
>> A J
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A J Hibbard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ah, yes, the part you don't remember is what I'd be interested in,
>> since
>>> I haven't seen what he actually did discussed anywhere. If anyone
>> remembers
>>> previous discussions here, I'm happy to search the Yahoo messages.
>>>
>>> Carol responds:
>>>
>>> I found one post that may be of interest (about Richard's aborted attempt
>>> as admiral, along with Hastings, to help his sister Margaret defend
>>> Burgundy in opposition to Edward's wishes):
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group//message/7337
>>>
>>> It mentions an article by Michael K. Jones called " "1477--The Expedition
>>> that Never Was: Chivalric Expectation in Late Yorkist England."
>>>
>>> Another source that might be helpful if you don't mind struggling through
>>> the ca. 1450 English translations of Old French is "The Black Book of the
>>> Admiralty," which is a compilation of English admiralty law from about
>> 1160
>>> to 1450 if I understand correctly. I haven't actually read it; I just
>>> encountered the reference in another post.
>>>
>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=cc8EAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Book_of_the_Admiralty
>>>
>>> Possibly, David or one of the other posters can give you additional
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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