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2013-04-11 02:01:33
Carol Darling
Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.

Re: movie

2013-04-11 02:07:52
Megan Lerseth
He'd be a good choice, I think.

Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).

He's about the right height, to boot.



________________________________
From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
To:
Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
Subject: movie

Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait
artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl,
frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in
front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not
afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: movie

2013-04-11 02:21:46
Ishita Bandyo
Carol, love your passion!!!
Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:

> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: movie

2013-04-11 08:01:34
Paul Trevor Bale
Tom would be my first choice to play Hastings. Wrong in almost every way
for Richard.
That's my only give way of my top 6 imaginary casting.
What I said about A listers not being interested in the project was
regarding a dramatised documentary, NOT a feature film or major
Television production.
Paul

On 11/04/2013 02:07, Megan Lerseth wrote:
> He'd be a good choice, I think.
>
> Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
> Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
> think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
> looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).
>
> He's about the right height, to boot.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
> Subject: movie
>
> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
> Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
> Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait
> artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
> him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
> Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl,
> frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in
> front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
> approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not
> afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
> needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Re: movie

2013-04-11 08:27:13
colyngbourne
I had thought Richard Armitage the right actor but I suspect now he is too old (and too tall) - ten years ago maybe would have been good. And actually there aren't that many actors who are in their late twenties at the moment. Even the ones you imagine to be, are actually in their early thirties. And to play the part of Richard from young man up, it would be better to have someone younger than 32 to begin with. One of the few British actors currently in their twenties (other than R-Patz, Tom Sangster and Harry Potter actors) is Andrew Garfield, but he doesn't look the part either. Tom Hardy is beefy muscular and plays more "hard man" roles.

--- In , Megan Lerseth <megan_phntmgrl@...> wrote:
>
> He'd be a good choice, I think.
>
> Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
> Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
> think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
> looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).
>
> He's about the right height, to boot.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
> Subject: movie
>
> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
> Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
> Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait
> artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
> him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
> Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl,
> frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in
> front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
> approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not
> afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
> needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Re: movie

2013-04-11 09:27:54
pansydobersby
--- In , colyngbourne <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I had thought Richard Armitage the right actor but I suspect now he is too old (and too tall) - ten years ago maybe would have been good. And actually there aren't that many actors who are in their late twenties at the moment. Even the ones you imagine to be, are actually in their early thirties. And to play the part of Richard from young man up, it would be better to have someone younger than 32 to begin with. One of the few British actors currently in their twenties (other than R-Patz, Tom Sangster and Harry Potter actors) is Andrew Garfield, but he doesn't look the part either. Tom Hardy is beefy muscular and plays more "hard man" roles.
>

That's a good point. I was going to suggest Harry Lloyd (who is too tall as well... but, oh well) as being of the right age and having the right kind of face (minus the chin, obviously) but then I realised that he's already 30 as well!

Mind you, that's still 12 years younger than Richard Armitage. I do love the latter and I'd love to see his take on Richard, but he's never been exactly the one I'd choose for the role - not when he was younger, either. Too smouldering, somehow.

Then again, who is exactly right? Casting always disappoints, and yet the films often turn out to be enjoyable nonetheless. There can be no definitive take on any role, after all.

(Also, I must go on record saying that Andrew Garfield is such a hottie. Totally wrong for Richard, but he must be included in the film in some capacity, no matter what. Though not as Henry VII. ;))

Re: movie

2013-04-11 10:11:09
Hilary Jones
Could you find an older part for Jeremy Irons - he was the best Henry IV I've ever seen; and I've seen a lot? And Tom Hiddleston would be good for one of the 'fair' parts. As you can see, I was hooked on the 'Hollow Crown'.
 


________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 8:01
Subject: Re: movie


Tom would be my first choice to play Hastings. Wrong in almost every way
for Richard.
That's my only give way of my top 6 imaginary casting.
What I said about A listers not being interested in the project was
regarding a dramatised documentary, NOT a feature film or major
Television production.
Paul

On 11/04/2013 02:07, Megan Lerseth wrote:
> He'd be a good choice, I think.
>
> Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
> Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
> think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
> looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).
>
> He's about the right height, to boot.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
> Subject: movie
>
> Re Movie:  I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
> Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
> Has anyone actually  approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait
> artist, is ideal  He IS  young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
> him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
> Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl,
> frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc.  I would run naked in
> front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
> approach these actors and ask the magic question.  I would do it myself, Im not
> afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
> needs to be done by the proper persons.  Carol D.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: movie

2013-04-11 10:47:49
Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
Loyaulte me Lie
Christine

--- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
>
> Carol, love your passion!!!
> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>
> > Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: movie

2013-04-11 16:09:27
liz williams
Having looked him up (never heard of him) he's only 35 - isn't that way too young for Hastings?



________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 8:01
Subject: Re: movie


Tom would be my first choice to play Hastings. Wrong in almost every way
for Richard.
That's my only give way of my top 6 imaginary casting.
What I said about A listers not being interested in the project was
regarding a dramatised documentary, NOT a feature film or major
Television production.
Paul

On 11/04/2013 02:07, Megan Lerseth wrote:
> He'd be a good choice, I think.
>
> Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
> Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
> think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
> looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).
>
> He's about the right height, to boot.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
> To:
> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
> Subject: movie
>
> Re Movie:  I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
> Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
> Has anyone actually  approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait
> artist, is ideal  He IS  young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
> him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
> Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl,
> frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc.  I would run naked in
> front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
> approach these actors and ask the magic question.  I would do it myself, Im not
> afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
> needs to be done by the proper persons.  Carol D.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: movie

2013-04-11 16:13:57
liz williams
Talk about out of the loop - I have no idea who half these people are and have to keep looking them up.  Garfield looks too geeky apart from anything else.
 
As for Tom Sangster (thank God for Dr Who, at least I know who he is) he STILL looks like a 10 year old. Perhaps he could play one of the Princes in the Tower?


________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 9:27
Subject: Re: movie

 
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, colyngbourne <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I had thought Richard Armitage the right actor but I suspect now he is too old (and too tall) - ten years ago maybe would have been good. And actually there aren't that many actors who are in their late twenties at the moment. Even the ones you imagine to be, are actually in their early thirties. And to play the part of Richard from young man up, it would be better to have someone younger than 32 to begin with. One of the few British actors currently in their twenties (other than R-Patz, Tom Sangster and Harry Potter actors) is Andrew Garfield, but he doesn't look the part either. Tom Hardy is beefy muscular and plays more "hard man" roles.
>

That's a good point. I was going to suggest Harry Lloyd (who is too tall as well... but, oh well) as being of the right age and having the right kind of face (minus the chin, obviously) but then I realised that he's already 30 as well!

Mind you, that's still 12 years younger than Richard Armitage. I do love the latter and I'd love to see his take on Richard, but he's never been exactly the one I'd choose for the role - not when he was younger, either. Too smouldering, somehow.

Then again, who is exactly right? Casting always disappoints, and yet the films often turn out to be enjoyable nonetheless. There can be no definitive take on any role, after all.

(Also, I must go on record saying that Andrew Garfield is such a hottie. Totally wrong for Richard, but he must be included in the film in some capacity, no matter what. Though not as Henry VII. ;))




Re: movie

2013-04-11 16:52:07
Stephen Lark
EX-Princes, please, and not necessarily in the Tower for much longer;)
----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: movie



Talk about out of the loop - I have no idea who half these people are and have to keep looking them up. Garfield looks too geeky apart from anything else.

As for Tom Sangster (thank God for Dr Who, at least I know who he is) he STILL looks like a 10 year old. Perhaps he could play one of the Princes in the Tower?

________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 9:27
Subject: Re: movie


--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, colyngbourne <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I had thought Richard Armitage the right actor but I suspect now he is too old (and too tall) - ten years ago maybe would have been good. And actually there aren't that many actors who are in their late twenties at the moment. Even the ones you imagine to be, are actually in their early thirties. And to play the part of Richard from young man up, it would be better to have someone younger than 32 to begin with. One of the few British actors currently in their twenties (other than R-Patz, Tom Sangster and Harry Potter actors) is Andrew Garfield, but he doesn't look the part either. Tom Hardy is beefy muscular and plays more "hard man" roles.
>

That's a good point. I was going to suggest Harry Lloyd (who is too tall as well... but, oh well) as being of the right age and having the right kind of face (minus the chin, obviously) but then I realised that he's already 30 as well!

Mind you, that's still 12 years younger than Richard Armitage. I do love the latter and I'd love to see his take on Richard, but he's never been exactly the one I'd choose for the role - not when he was younger, either. Too smouldering, somehow.

Then again, who is exactly right? Casting always disappoints, and yet the films often turn out to be enjoyable nonetheless. There can be no definitive take on any role, after all.

(Also, I must go on record saying that Andrew Garfield is such a hottie. Totally wrong for Richard, but he must be included in the film in some capacity, no matter what. Though not as Henry VII. ;))







Re: movie

2013-04-11 17:01:10
liz williams
Sorry Stephen, its just shorthand.  I do agree with you about their status.



________________________________
From: Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 16:51
Subject: Re: movie

 
EX-Princes, please, and not necessarily in the Tower for much longer;)
----- Original Message -----
From: liz williams
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: movie

Talk about out of the loop - I have no idea who half these people are and have to keep looking them up. Garfield looks too geeky apart from anything else.

As for Tom Sangster (thank God for Dr Who, at least I know who he is) he STILL looks like a 10 year old. Perhaps he could play one of the Princes in the Tower?

________________________________
From: pansydobersby <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 9:27
Subject: Re: movie

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, colyngbourne <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I had thought Richard Armitage the right actor but I suspect now he is too old (and too tall) - ten years ago maybe would have been good. And actually there aren't that many actors who are in their late twenties at the moment. Even the ones you imagine to be, are actually in their early thirties. And to play the part of Richard from young man up, it would be better to have someone younger than 32 to begin with. One of the few British actors currently in their twenties (other than R-Patz, Tom Sangster and Harry Potter actors) is Andrew Garfield, but he doesn't look the part either. Tom Hardy is beefy muscular and plays more "hard man" roles.
>

That's a good point. I was going to suggest Harry Lloyd (who is too tall as well... but, oh well) as being of the right age and having the right kind of face (minus the chin, obviously) but then I realised that he's already 30 as well!

Mind you, that's still 12 years younger than Richard Armitage. I do love the latter and I'd love to see his take on Richard, but he's never been exactly the one I'd choose for the role - not when he was younger, either. Too smouldering, somehow.

Then again, who is exactly right? Casting always disappoints, and yet the films often turn out to be enjoyable nonetheless. There can be no definitive take on any role, after all.

(Also, I must go on record saying that Andrew Garfield is such a hottie. Totally wrong for Richard, but he must be included in the film in some capacity, no matter what. Though not as Henry VII. ;))








Re: movie

2013-04-11 19:21:22
Paul Trevor Bale
Actually it depends on when you place Hastings. At the time of
Tewkesbury for example? He was 32 to save you looking it up. That's
halfway through Richard's story. Perfect casting for me. Charismatic, a
man's man.
You see why I'm not playing the casting game? Nobody will be totally
happy with my cast until they see it realised on film. Then you can tell
me I was wrong. But I doubt anyone will.
Paul

On 11/04/2013 16:09, liz williams wrote:
> Having looked him up (never heard of him) he's only 35 - isn't that way too young for Hastings?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 8:01
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
> Tom would be my first choice to play Hastings. Wrong in almost every way
> for Richard.
> That's my only give way of my top 6 imaginary casting.
> What I said about A listers not being interested in the project was
> regarding a dramatised documentary, NOT a feature film or major
> Television production.
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 02:07, Megan Lerseth wrote:
>> He'd be a good choice, I think.
>>
>> Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
>> Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
>> think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
>> looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).
>>
>> He's about the right height, to boot.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
>> To:
>> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
>> Subject: movie
>>
>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
>> Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
>> Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait
>> artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
>> him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
>> Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl,
>> frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in
>> front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
>> approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not
>> afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
>> needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Re: movie

2013-04-11 19:23:47
Paul Trevor Bale
Sorry had a maths relapse. Must stop trying to watch a movie while
typing. Hastings was 41 in 1471.
Paul

On 11/04/2013 16:09, liz williams wrote:
> Having looked him up (never heard of him) he's only 35 - isn't that way too young for Hastings?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 8:01
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
> Tom would be my first choice to play Hastings. Wrong in almost every way
> for Richard.
> That's my only give way of my top 6 imaginary casting.
> What I said about A listers not being interested in the project was
> regarding a dramatised documentary, NOT a feature film or major
> Television production.
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 02:07, Megan Lerseth wrote:
>> He'd be a good choice, I think.
>>
>> Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
>> Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
>> think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
>> looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).
>>
>> He's about the right height, to boot.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
>> To:
>> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
>> Subject: movie
>>
>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
>> Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
>> Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait
>> artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
>> him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
>> Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl,
>> frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in
>> front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
>> approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not
>> afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
>> needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Re: movie

2013-04-11 20:50:29
Ishita Bandyo
Lets say Orlando for Richard.
Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> Loyaulte me Lie
> Christine
>
> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
> >
> > Carol, love your passion!!!
> > Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>


Re: movie

2013-04-11 21:01:37
EileenB
Ah...you see Paul...here is the thing...men cannot multitask..:0) Eileen

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry had a maths relapse. Must stop trying to watch a movie while
> typing. Hastings was 41 in 1471.
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 16:09, liz williams wrote:
> > Having looked him up (never heard of him) he's only 35 - isn't that way too young for Hastings?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 8:01
> > Subject: Re: movie
> >
> >
> > Tom would be my first choice to play Hastings. Wrong in almost every way
> > for Richard.
> > That's my only give way of my top 6 imaginary casting.
> > What I said about A listers not being interested in the project was
> > regarding a dramatised documentary, NOT a feature film or major
> > Television production.
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 02:07, Megan Lerseth wrote:
> >> He'd be a good choice, I think.
> >>
> >> Also, though he's not immediately what one might think of, I can imagine Tom
> >> Hardy in the role too pretty well. Despite the kind of stuff he usually takes, I
> >> think he could commit to it with really stunning results (also, google what he
> >> looked like in Wuthering Heights- he's not always a strongman with no hair).
> >>
> >> He's about the right height, to boot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...>
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Wed, April 10, 2013 9:01:33 PM
> >> Subject: movie
> >>
> >> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie.
> >> Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story?
> >> Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait
> >> artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of
> >> him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character.
> >> Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl,
> >> frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in
> >> front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually
> >> approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not
> >> afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it
> >> needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 09:31:57
Hilary Jones
But the big question - who would play Morton and MB? Pity the guy who played Cromwell in the Keith Michell thing wasn't still around.



________________________________
From: Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 20:50
Subject: Re: Re: movie


 

Lets say Orlando for Richard.
Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!

Ishita Bandyo
www.ishitabandyo.com
www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com

On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "mailto:christineholmes651%40btinternet.com" <mailto:christineholmes651%40btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> Loyaulte me Lie
> Christine
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
> >
> > Carol, love your passion!!!
> > Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>






Re: movie

2013-04-12 09:44:04
pansydobersby
--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> But the big question - who would play Morton and MB? Pity the guy who played Cromwell in the Keith Michell thing wasn't still around.
>

Don't know about Morton, but strangely - considering that we only have portraits of her as a bony old lady - I tend to see the younger MB as someone like Natasha Little (very good at playing schemers, I might add!).

Re: movie

2013-04-12 13:17:14
Paul Trevor Bale
Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
Paul

On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
>> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
>> Loyaulte me Lie
>> Christine
>>
>> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
>>> Carol, love your passion!!!
>>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
>>>
>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Re: movie

2013-04-12 17:02:34
EileenB
How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> >> Loyaulte me Lie
> >> Christine
> >>
> >> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> >>>
> >>> Ishita Bandyo
> >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 17:29:10
Hilary Jones
I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)



________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 13:17
Subject: Re: Re: movie


Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
Paul

On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow  in misery together!
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> www.ishitabandyo.com
> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>
> On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
>> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
>> Loyaulte me Lie
>> Christine
>>
>> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
>>> Carol, love your passion!!!
>>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
>>>
>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: movie

2013-04-12 17:39:14
Hilary Jones
Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
Subject: Re: movie


 

How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> >> Loyaulte me Lie
> >> Christine
> >>
> >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> >>>
> >>> Ishita Bandyo
> >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>




Re: movie

2013-04-12 17:44:04
A J Hibbard
My thoughts exactly regarding Rufus - discovered him when I was looking for
background on Charles II.

Now how about Daniel Radcliffe (ducking for cover...)?

A J


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the
> right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can
> fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere? I have a real problem with the women.
> Sorry back to Stillington.
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>
>
> How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in
> medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe
> he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not
> go together in the same sentence...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale
> <paul.bale@...> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian
> forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can
> wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..."
> <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly
> as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not
> be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's
> "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim
> too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita
> Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least
> fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a
> possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted
> to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I
> thinký. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced,
> but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious,
> driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with
> good direction he caný.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage,
> rageý.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help
> Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the
> magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I
> don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by
> the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>


Re: movie

2013-04-12 17:47:25
pansydobersby
--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)
>
>

GERARD BUTLER FOR RICHARD!!!!!!

... sorry, just kidding ;)

I agree about Ralph! Benedict Cumberbatch and Damian Lewis would be nice additions as well. Oh, and the latter's wife, Helen McCrory.

Re: movie

2013-04-12 17:50:14
pansydobersby
--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>

I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...

Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)

Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:10:42
EileenB
Rufus Sewell...could he play Lord Rivers....? Eileen

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>  
>
> How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:11:54
EileenB
Helen Mirren for Cis....?

--- In , pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> >
>
> I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
>
> Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:13:32
EileenB
Jackie Stallone for Jacquetta Woodville..

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Helen Mirren for Cis....?
>
> --- In , pansydobersby <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> > >
> >
> > I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
> >
> > Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
> >
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:43:34
Hilary Jones
Yep. Cultured, chaming, smarmy, you name it. But he was a great C2



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:10
Subject: Re: movie


 

Rufus Sewell...could he play Lord Rivers....? Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>  
>
> How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think⬦. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can⬦.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage⬦.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:44:57
Hilary Jones
Yes - loads of regal backbone and a bit of glamour. They should put you in charge of casting.



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:11
Subject: Re: movie


 

Helen Mirren for Cis....?

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> >
>
> I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
>
> Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
>




Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:47:49
Hilary Jones
Shall have to look her up - must be getting old. Can't get my head round Anne. And I have to say that guy who played Clarence in the Starkey programme was rather pretty. Nice curls.



________________________________
From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:13
Subject: Re: movie


 

Jackie Stallone for Jacquetta Woodville..

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Helen Mirren for Cis....?
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, pansydobersby <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> > >
> >
> > I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
> >
> > Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
> >
>




Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:51:29
Hilary Jones
Yes, you know Damien Lewis wouldn't make a bad Buckingham (having seen him in that good take off of the Taming of the Shrew). And I was thinking of Benedict too: definitely. Helen McCrory, was she Castlemane in C2 - not the one with the funny voice?



________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:47
Subject: Re: movie

 

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)
>
>

GERARD BUTLER FOR RICHARD!!!!!!

... sorry, just kidding ;)

I agree about Ralph! Benedict Cumberbatch and Damian Lewis would be nice additions as well. Oh, and the latter's wife, Helen McCrory.




Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:53:49
Hilary Jones
Yes, a good amount of unloveable steel, and crossing the pond Laura Linney aged beautifully in John Adams. Must get back to Bish S.


________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:50
Subject: Re: movie

 

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>

I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...

Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)




Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:57:24
EileenB
Google her....she's Sylverster Stallone's mum....:0)

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Shall have to look her up - must be getting old. Can't get my head round Anne. And I have to say that guy who played Clarence in the Starkey programme was rather pretty. Nice curls.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:13
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>  
>
> Jackie Stallone for Jacquetta Woodville..
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@> wrote:
> >
> > Helen Mirren for Cis....?
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, pansydobersby <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
> > >
> > > Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 18:59:48
EileenB
Ive always pictured in my mind's eye Buckingham was on the weedy side...Damien Lewis might play King Edward....?

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, you know Damien Lewis wouldn't make a bad Buckingham (having seen him in that good take off of the Taming of the Shrew). And I was thinking of Benedict too: definitely. Helen McCrory, was she Castlemane in C2 - not the one with the funny voice?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:47
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>  
>
> --- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)
> >
> >
>
> GERARD BUTLER FOR RICHARD!!!!!!
>
> ... sorry, just kidding ;)
>
> I agree about Ralph! Benedict Cumberbatch and Damian Lewis would be nice additions as well. Oh, and the latter's wife, Helen McCrory.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 19:22:21
Pamela Bain
Ohhhhh, yes!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 12:11 PM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb@...>> wrote:



Helen Mirren for Cis....?

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?ý I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> >
>
> I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
>
> Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
>





Re: movie

2013-04-12 19:22:42
Pamela Bain
Ha.....another great choice!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 12:13 PM, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...<mailto:cherryripe.eileenb@...>> wrote:



Jackie Stallone for Jacquetta Woodville..

--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Helen Mirren for Cis....?
>
> --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, pansydobersby <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?ý I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> > >
> >
> > I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
> >
> > Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
> >
>





Re: movie

2013-04-12 19:25:49
liz williams
 Rufus is almost better than Armitage. 



________________________________
From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:39
Subject: Re: Re: movie

 
Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.

________________________________
From: EileenB <mailto:cherryripe.eileenb%40googlemail.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
Subject: Re: movie


 

How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> >> Loyaulte me Lie
> >> Christine
> >>
> >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> >>>
> >>> Ishita Bandyo
> >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>






Re: movie

2013-04-12 19:26:55
liz williams
Helen McCrory is a wonderful actress but who could she play?  She's too old for Anne, too young for Cis and too good for Elizabeth Woodville ....



________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:47
Subject: Re: movie

 
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)
>
>

GERARD BUTLER FOR RICHARD!!!!!!

... sorry, just kidding ;)

I agree about Ralph! Benedict Cumberbatch and Damian Lewis would be nice additions as well. Oh, and the latter's wife, Helen McCrory.




Re: movie

2013-04-12 19:29:02
liz williams
I love Laura Linney and she's beautiful too.  the trouble is she looks "nice" so couldn't play any of the nasty ones



________________________________
From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:53
Subject: Re: Re: movie

 
Yes, a good amount of unloveable steel, and crossing the pond Laura Linney aged beautifully in John Adams. Must get back to Bish S.


________________________________
From: pansydobersby <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:50
Subject: Re: movie

 

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>

I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...

Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)






Re: movie

2013-04-12 20:46:01
Paul Trevor Bale
Casting by who you fancy is why I'm not playing this casting game girls!:-)
Paul


On 12/04/2013 17:47, pansydobersby wrote:
> --- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>> I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)
>>
>>
> GERARD BUTLER FOR RICHARD!!!!!!
>
> ... sorry, just kidding ;)
>
> I agree about Ralph! Benedict Cumberbatch and Damian Lewis would be nice additions as well. Oh, and the latter's wife, Helen McCrory.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Richard Liveth Yet!

Re: movie

2013-04-12 20:50:18
ricard1an
The actor who plays Richard would surely have to be British.

--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> >
> > Ishita Bandyo
> > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> >> Loyaulte me Lie
> >> Christine
> >>
> >> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> >>>
> >>> Ishita Bandyo
> >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 20:57:29
ricard1an
Rufus Sewell for Edward Brampton.

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>  
>
> How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 20:58:15
EileenB
Who could play Morton?

--- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@...> wrote:
>
> The actor who plays Richard would surely have to be British.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 20:59:00
EileenB
Who could play Morton?

--- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@...> wrote:
>
> The actor who plays Richard would surely have to be British.
>
> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 21:00:47
EileenB
I have it..the very one...Danny Webb...

--- In , "EileenB" <cherryripe.eileenb@...> wrote:
>
> Who could play Morton?
>
> --- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@> wrote:
> >
> > The actor who plays Richard would surely have to be British.
> >
> > --- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > > >> Christine
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Richard Liveth Yet!
> > >
> >
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 21:07:37
liz williams
Now "that" is a really interesting idea. 
 
Still while this whiles away some time, it will come to naught.  If anything is made, none of us will be hired as casting director, worse luck.


________________________________
From: ricard1an <maryfriend@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 20:57
Subject: Re: movie

 
Rufus Sewell for Edward Brampton.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>  
>
> How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think⬦. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can⬦.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage⬦.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: movie

2013-04-12 21:17:46
ricard1an
Just seen Vanessa Redgrave on an advert for a programme. I think she would make an excellent MB.

--- In , pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> >
>
> I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
>
> Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 21:23:09
Hilary Jones
Not at all Paul; your namesack was marvellous as John Adams and that was nothing to do with looks and Ralph Fiennes was never handsome in the conventional sense. Whoever it is has to convince us that he has been brought up in a family destined to rule (as do his brothers) - JFK's a good example of that in the real world.


________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 20:45
Subject: Re: Re: movie


 

Casting by who you fancy is why I'm not playing this casting game girls!:-)
Paul

On 12/04/2013 17:47, pansydobersby wrote:
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>> I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)
>>
>>
> GERARD BUTLER FOR RICHARD!!!!!!
>
> ... sorry, just kidding ;)
>
> I agree about Ralph! Benedict Cumberbatch and Damian Lewis would be nice additions as well. Oh, and the latter's wife, Helen McCrory.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--
Richard Liveth Yet!



Re: movie

2013-04-12 21:36:05
pansydobersby
--- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@...> wrote:
>
> Just seen Vanessa Redgrave on an advert for a programme. I think she would make an excellent MB.
>

Isn't Vanessa Redgrave far too old, though? MB would have been in her early 40s in 1485...?

Re: movie

2013-04-12 21:55:07
pansydobersby
--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> and Ralph Fiennes was never handsome in the conventional sense.
>

AHEM.

http://i.imgur.com/ECIeqEE.jpg

But seriously, I can't imagine any actor in this universe capable of embodying 'my' Richard, just like no fictional rendition will ever come close to the complexity of the historical person. Because of this, I'm pretty indifferent to the question of who eventually gets to play him in a film; I'm sure I'd enjoy - in a detached sort of way - any portrayal where (a) the actor is a capable actor (with preferably more facial expressions than 'brooding' and 'angry') and reasonably pleasing to the eye, and (b) the script does - or even attempts to do - him justice.

Low expectations => be pleasantly surprised, whatever the outcome ;)

Re: movie

2013-04-12 21:57:12
pansydobersby
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Helen McCrory is a wonderful actress but who could she play?  She's too old for Anne, too young for Cis and too good for Elizabeth Woodville ....
>

I don't know... MB?

I think Elizabeth Woodville is a pretty complex role, too, btw.

Ages are so difficult to get right, aren't they - the aforementioned Damian Lewis is already 42 and doesn't look particularly young for his age; and Buckingham was 28 when he died...

Then again, Emma Thompson got Elinor Dashwood just right when she was in her mid-thirties, so I suppose the age of the character doesn't matter so much, really.

Re: movie

2013-04-12 22:12:51
ricard1an
It could be our contribution to telling lies about the WOTR. She just reinded me of the portraits of MB. I am just being a bit nasty like the traditionalists. Indulge me.

--- In , pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "ricard1an" <maryfriend@> wrote:
> >
> > Just seen Vanessa Redgrave on an advert for a programme. I think she would make an excellent MB.
> >
>
> Isn't Vanessa Redgrave far too old, though? MB would have been in her early 40s in 1485...?
>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 22:28:01
Hilary Jones
Oh not for Richard, never. He is just a good actor, or he was when I saw him at Stratford a millennium ago, sorry, a bit straggly but not handsome, unlike Charles Dance who was there as Coriolanus.  So is Simon Russell-Beale but I wouldn't recommend him - now there's a Morton.  That's why perhaps we have yet to find a Richard? One author whose talk I went to said she purposely never described her characters because everyone has a different vision of them in their head and to describe them would spoil it all. So I'm with you on some of this, we are still looking.


________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 21:55
Subject: Re: movie

 

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> and Ralph Fiennes was never handsome in the conventional sense.
>

AHEM.

http://i.imgur.com/ECIeqEE.jpg

But seriously, I can't imagine any actor in this universe capable of embodying 'my' Richard, just like no fictional rendition will ever come close to the complexity of the historical person. Because of this, I'm pretty indifferent to the question of who eventually gets to play him in a film; I'm sure I'd enjoy - in a detached sort of way - any portrayal where (a) the actor is a capable actor (with preferably more facial expressions than 'brooding' and 'angry') and reasonably pleasing to the eye, and (b) the script does - or even attempts to do - him justice.

Low expectations => be pleasantly surprised, whatever the outcome ;)




Re: movie

2013-04-12 22:31:23
ellrosa1452
Don't forget Charles II was also devious, vindictive, vengeful and underhand!
Just watching Spooks and Peter Firth - what about him for Morton?
Also, Dominic West of The Wire and The Devil's Whore (he played Oliver Cromwell) for Buckingham.
Elaine

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> Yep. Cultured, chaming, smarmy, you name it. But he was a great C2
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:10
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>  
>
> Rufus Sewell...could he play Lord Rivers....? Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?  I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@>
> > To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
> > Subject: Re: movie
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen
> >
> > --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > > >
> > > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@" <christineholmes651@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > > >> Christine
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think…. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can….scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage….etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Richard Liveth Yet!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>

Re: movie

2013-04-12 22:34:40
Stephen Lark
Charles Dance has already played the next Buckingham, opposite Ray Winstone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hilary Jones
To:
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re: movie



Oh not for Richard, never. He is just a good actor, or he was when I saw him at Stratford a millennium ago, sorry, a bit straggly but not handsome, unlike Charles Dance who was there as Coriolanus. So is Simon Russell-Beale but I wouldn't recommend him - now there's a Morton. That's why perhaps we have yet to find a Richard? One author whose talk I went to said she purposely never described her characters because everyone has a different vision of them in their head and to describe them would spoil it all. So I'm with you on some of this, we are still looking.


________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 21:55
Subject: Re: movie



--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> and Ralph Fiennes was never handsome in the conventional sense.
>

AHEM.

http://i.imgur.com/ECIeqEE.jpg

But seriously, I can't imagine any actor in this universe capable of embodying 'my' Richard, just like no fictional rendition will ever come close to the complexity of the historical person. Because of this, I'm pretty indifferent to the question of who eventually gets to play him in a film; I'm sure I'd enjoy - in a detached sort of way - any portrayal where (a) the actor is a capable actor (with preferably more facial expressions than 'brooding' and 'angry') and reasonably pleasing to the eye, and (b) the script does - or even attempts to do - him justice.

Low expectations => be pleasantly surprised, whatever the outcome ;)







Re: movie

2013-04-12 23:15:21
justcarol67
Eileen wrote:
>
> Who could play Morton?

Carol responds:

Here you go, Morton in person:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/

Carol

Re: movie

2013-04-12 23:35:09
justcarol67
--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> But the big question - who would play Morton and MB? Pity the guy who played Cromwell in the Keith Michell thing wasn't still around.

Carol responds:

Only one person that I know of could play MB, Judi Dench. Wrong costume, right face:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/

Carol

Re: movie

2013-04-12 23:57:55
justcarol67
Carol earlier:
>
> Only one person that I know of could play MB, Judi Dench. Wrong costume, right face:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/
>
Carol again:

Oops! I hope someone got a laugh out of that blunder. Wrong URL! I meant it to be this one:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3630347008/nm0001132

She's even more sinister as Lady Catherine in "Pride and Prejudice."

Carol

Re: movie

2013-04-13 00:00:12
liz williams
She's still far too good looking for MB and doesn't have that "I just sucked a lemon" look (sorry, amI being nasty now? )



________________________________
From: ricard1an <maryfriend@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 22:12
Subject: Re: movie

 
It could be our contribution to telling lies about the WOTR. She just reinded me of the portraits of MB. I am just being a bit nasty like the traditionalists. Indulge me.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, "ricard1an" <maryfriend@> wrote:
> >
> > Just seen Vanessa Redgrave on an advert for a programme. I think she would make an excellent MB.
> >
>
> Isn't Vanessa Redgrave far too old, though? MB would have been in her early 40s in 1485...?
>




Re: movie

2013-04-13 00:03:10
liz williams
I thought Peter Vaughan was dead.    Wrong again.
 
Good choice though.


________________________________
From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 23:15
Subject: Re: movie

 
Eileen wrote:
>
> Who could play Morton?

Carol responds:

Here you go, Morton in person:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/

Carol




Re: movie

2013-04-13 01:28:51
wednesday\_mc
Please, no Gerard Butler. And please, no Russell Crowe? His attempts to sound like Richard Burton make me want to burn every film he's in. (He certainly didn't start out trying to sound like that in his Australian films.)

~Weds

PS. Maybe the production needs to cast unknown graduates from the Guildhall and the RSC?

PPS. Could there please be room for Brian Blessed somewhere?


--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
> I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)

Re: movie

2013-04-13 05:25:43
NICOLE MASIKA
I agree, those 2 would just be wrong :-) though I like Russell Crowe in some things
btw, I just joined, some may recognize me from facebook, my real name is Nicole, not sure what will show up since I joined with a very old yahoo profile
Nicole

~~~ Music is lots of sound waves coming toward us in a completely chaotic manner and somehow our brain receives that as something beautiful - Matthew Bellamy

To:
From: wednesday.mac@...
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:28:49 +0000
Subject: Re: movie


























Please, no Gerard Butler. And please, no Russell Crowe? His attempts to sound like Richard Burton make me want to burn every film he's in. (He certainly didn't start out trying to sound like that in his Australian films.)



~Weds



PS. Maybe the production needs to cast unknown graduates from the Guildhall and the RSC?



PPS. Could there please be room for Brian Blessed somewhere?



--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

>

> I'm with you Paul, but young ones seem hard to find Perhaps you could fit Ralph Fiennes in yours too as one of the 'olders'. How good he was when he was young. At least no-one yet has suggested Gerard Butler :)


















Re: movie

2013-04-13 07:30:27
Glenda Jackson for MB. Has the wit and her portrayal of Elizabeth was superb. Kind regards. Coral
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
Sender:
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:03:08
To: <>
Reply-To:
Subject: Re: Re: movie

I thought Peter Vaughan was dead.    Wrong again.
 
Good choice though.


________________________________
From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 23:15
Subject: Re: movie

 
Eileen wrote:
>
> Who could play Morton?

Carol responds:

Here you go, Morton in person:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/

Carol









Re: movie

2013-04-13 08:05:04
Hilary Jones
He is 88!!



________________________________
From: liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013, 0:03
Subject: Re: Re: movie


 

I thought Peter Vaughan was dead.    Wrong again.
 
Good choice though.

________________________________
From: justcarol67 <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 23:15
Subject: Re: movie

 
Eileen wrote:
>
> Who could play Morton?

Carol responds:

Here you go, Morton in person:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/

Carol






Re: movie

2013-04-13 08:41:05
pansydobersby
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> She's still far too good looking for MB and doesn't have that "I just sucked a lemon" look (sorry, amI being nasty now? )
>

Not nasty, and I'm sure she was always haughty ;) But aren't you all basing your idea of MB as a gaunt, stern-looking old lady on those portraits painted in her 60s? Don't forget that she gave birth to Henry at such an early age; in the 1470s and 1480s, she was in her 30s and 40s. For all we know, she might have been a very handsome woman.

Rather than as a permanently sour-looking old woman, I'd like to see her as more of a charming villain. Not likeable, but someone with enough charm to manipulate and convince people. She must have had that, at least; she was in no position to bark peremptory commands and expect people to obey her.

Re: movie

2013-04-13 14:53:31
Pamela Bain
He would be perfect, and even from Shropshire!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 5:15 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67@...>> wrote:



Eileen wrote:
>
> Who could play Morton?

Carol responds:

Here you go, Morton in person:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/

Carol





Re: movie

2013-04-13 19:18:06
liz williams
Of course I am but I doubt very much indeed if she was ever good looking.  Henry VII looked just like her, and so did Elizabeth I and they all had that pinched looking face.  She "may" have had charm, although I've read nothing to suggest it, but I don't think she was a looker ever.



________________________________
From: pansydobersby <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013, 8:41
Subject: Re: movie

 
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> She's still far too good looking for MB and doesn't have that "I just sucked a lemon" look (sorry, amI being nasty now? )
>

Not nasty, and I'm sure she was always haughty ;) But aren't you all basing your idea of MB as a gaunt, stern-looking old lady on those portraits painted in her 60s? Don't forget that she gave birth to Henry at such an early age; in the 1470s and 1480s, she was in her 30s and 40s. For all we know, she might have been a very handsome woman.

Rather than as a permanently sour-looking old woman, I'd like to see her as more of a charming villain. Not likeable, but someone with enough charm to manipulate and convince people. She must have had that, at least; she was in no position to bark peremptory commands and expect people to obey her.




Re: movie

2013-04-13 20:25:12
pansydobersby
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Of course I am but I doubt very much indeed if she was ever good looking.  Henry VII looked just like her, and so did Elizabeth I and they all had that pinched looking face.  She "may" have had charm, although I've read nothing to suggest it, but I don't think she was a looker ever.
>

I know what you mean... and you're probably right. I just think that, as a fictional character, she'd be more interesting with some modicum of charm at least. Or perhaps 'charm' is the wrong word. Something regally compelling perhaps? I don't know. Luckily I'm not the screenwriter ;)

I've always thought Elizabeth I looks beautiful in her own way in her portraits, by the way. Pinched can be beautiful - think of Tilda Swinton!

... wait. That's it! Tilda Swinton for MB!

Re: movie

2013-04-13 20:36:12
EileenB
OMG...yes...yes...yes...At last!....we have an MB...Eileen

--- In , pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
> ... wait. That's it! Tilda Swinton for MB!
>

Re: movie

2013-04-15 00:56:08
Ishita Bandyo
I know!! Because we couldn't find anyone else!
Who knows maybe he will start taking acting classes! Lol.

Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:

> Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> Paul
>
> On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
>> Lets say Orlando for Richard.
>> Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
>> Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
>> Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
>>
>> Ishita Bandyo
>> www.ishitabandyo.com
>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
>>> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
>>> Loyaulte me Lie
>>> Christine
>>>
>>> --- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
>>>> Carol, love your passion!!!
>>>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
>>>>
>>>> Ishita Bandyo
>>>> www.ishitabandyo.com
>>>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
>>>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> --
> Richard Liveth Yet!
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: movie

2013-04-15 00:57:51
Ishita Bandyo
Is there no place for Ralph Fiennes? Hastings? No?!

Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 12, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere? I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>
> ________________________________
> From: EileenB <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:02
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>
>
> How about Hugh Bonneville for Warwick....I have seen a picture of him in medieval costume and he looks very noble indeed. I thought, briefly, maybe he could have played Hastings..but then, to me, Hastings and noble do not go together in the same sentence...Eileen
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
> >
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 11/04/2013 20:50, Ishita Bandyo wrote:
> > > Lets say Orlando for Richard.
> > > Who will be good for Eddie and Georgie?
> > > Jeremy Iron can be included as Jasper Tudor, maybe?
> > > Too old for Warwick..... I have posted a link on the fb Ricardian forum from White Queen series( don't hurt me!!!) check it out and we can wallow in misery together!
> > >
> > > Ishita Bandyo
> > > www.ishitabandyo.com
> > > www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > > www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:47 AM, "christineholmes651@..." <christineholmes651@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hi all I think Orlando would be good in Richard's part particularly as he had a broken back when he was younger and it was thought he may not be able to walk again, he would perhaps have some empathy with Richard's "disability".
> > >> His looks would be ok too he has that classical look about him, slim too.
> > >> Loyaulte me Lie
> > >> Christine
> > >>
> > >> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@> wrote:
> > >>> Carol, love your passion!!!
> > >>> Judy, can we all post on RA's website to get involved in at least fund raising without expecting a role?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ishita Bandyo
> > >>> www.ishitabandyo.com
> > >>> www.facebook.com/ishitabandyofinearts
> > >>> www.ishitabandyoarts.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Carol Darling <cdarlingart1@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Re Movie: I am encouraged that we are at least talking about a possible movie. Who says absolutely that A list actors can't be attracted to Richards story? Has anyone actually approached Orlando Bloom, whom I think&. as a portrait artist, is ideal He IS young looking and sweet faced, but several pictures of him on his Google Image page, show a dark, serious, driven sort of character. Every feature is a perfect fit, and I know with good direction he can&.scowl, frown, have angst, anger, sadness, courage, rage&.etc. I would run naked in front of the Queen if it would help Richard, but SOMEONE needs to actually approach these actors and ask the magic question. I would do it myself, Im not afraid of anything, but I don't have the correct material and information, so it needs to be done by the proper persons. Carol D.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Liveth Yet!
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: movie

2013-04-15 01:00:49
Ishita Bandyo
Amy Adam as Anne? Ooh the girl Mia something who played Jane Eyre? In the new one that is!

Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 12, 2013, at 2:29 PM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:

> I love Laura Linney and she's beautiful too. the trouble is she looks "nice" so couldn't play any of the nasty ones
>
> ________________________________
> From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>
> To: "" <>
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:53
> Subject: Re: Re: movie
>
>
> Yes, a good amount of unloveable steel, and crossing the pond Laura Linney aged beautifully in John Adams. Must get back to Bish S.
>
> ________________________________
> From: pansydobersby <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>
> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:50
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere? I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
> >
>
> I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
>
> Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: movie

2013-04-15 01:04:23
Ishita Bandyo
Good god!! That's him!!!!

Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 12, 2013, at 6:15 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:

> Eileen wrote:
> >
> > Who could play Morton?
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Here you go, Morton in person:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0891092/
>
> Carol
>
>


Re: movie

2013-04-15 01:19:02
wednesday\_mc
Orlando graduated from the Guildhall School of Music & Drama, London (same as Ewan McGregor and others).

Hmm...any room for Ewan in the casting game?

~Weds

--- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
>
> I know!! Because we couldn't find anyone else!
> Who knows maybe he will start taking acting classes! Lol.
>
> Ishita Bandyo
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
>
> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
> > Paul

Re: movie

2013-04-15 04:05:50
NICOLE MASIKA
I could see Mia before Amy, I have it in my head that Anne looked a bit like a young Judy Garland (obviously I am not up on current actors!)
and btw, this thread caused me to look at Armitage as Guy of Gisborne videos, brought some welcome heat to this snowy spring day!
Nicole

~~~ Music is lots of sound waves coming toward us in a completely chaotic manner and somehow our brain receives that as something beautiful - Matthew Bellamy

To:
From: bandyoi@...
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:00:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Re: movie


























Amy Adam as Anne? Ooh the girl Mia something who played Jane Eyre? In the new one that is!



Ishita Bandyo

Sent from my iPad



On Apr 12, 2013, at 2:29 PM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:



> I love Laura Linney and she's beautiful too. the trouble is she looks "nice" so couldn't play any of the nasty ones

>

> ________________________________

> From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>

> To: "" <>

> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:53

> Subject: Re: Re: movie

>

>

> Yes, a good amount of unloveable steel, and crossing the pond Laura Linney aged beautifully in John Adams. Must get back to Bish S.

>

> ________________________________

> From: pansydobersby <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>

> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:50

> Subject: Re: movie

>

>

>

> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:

> >

> > Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere?ý I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.

> >

>

> I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...

>

> Much as we dislike MB, that's a really juicy role and would require a top-notch actress. Now I can't stop thinking what Cate Blanchett would do with the role... though of course there's the danger we'd end up liking her. ;)

>

>

>

>

>

>






















Re: movie

2013-04-15 04:11:27
Ishita Bandyo
Nicole, LOLOL!
Wednesday has introduced me to Guy and I agree about the heat:D!!


Ishita Bandyo
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 14, 2013, at 8:30 PM, NICOLE MASIKA <nicolemm_99@...> wrote:

> I could see Mia before Amy, I have it in my head that Anne looked a bit like a young Judy Garland (obviously I am not up on current actors!)
> and btw, this thread caused me to look at Armitage as Guy of Gisborne videos, brought some welcome heat to this snowy spring day!
> Nicole
>
> ~~~ Music is lots of sound waves coming toward us in a completely chaotic manner and somehow our brain receives that as something beautiful - Matthew Bellamy
>
> To:
> From: bandyoi@...
> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:00:46 -0400
> Subject: Re: Re: movie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Amy Adam as Anne? Ooh the girl Mia something who played Jane Eyre? In the new one that is!
>
>
>
> Ishita Bandyo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 2:29 PM, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>> I love Laura Linney and she's beautiful too. the trouble is she looks "nice" so couldn't play any of the nasty ones
>
>>
>
>> ________________________________
>
>> From: Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...>
>
>> To: "" <>
>
>> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 18:53
>
>> Subject: Re: Re: movie
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Yes, a good amount of unloveable steel, and crossing the pond Laura Linney aged beautifully in John Adams. Must get back to Bish S.
>
>>
>
>> ________________________________
>
>> From: pansydobersby <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>> To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
>
>> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 17:50
>
>> Subject: Re: movie
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> Oh yes, now I could get the Hugh Bonneville connection; he has just the right 'fatherly' but sometimes petulant stance. Spot on. BTW surely we can fit Rufus Sewell in there somewhere? I have a real problem with the women. Sorry back to Stillington.
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>> I think Keeley Hawes resembles the portrait of Elizabeth Woodville...
>
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Re: movie

2013-04-15 18:58:43
liz williams
No.  We're full up.  :-) 
 
I suppose he could play the King of Scotland?


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From: wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 1:19
Subject: Re: movie

 
Orlando graduated from the Guildhall School of Music & Drama, London (same as Ewan McGregor and others).

Hmm...any room for Ewan in the casting game?

~Weds

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
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> I know!! Because we couldn't find anyone else!
> Who knows maybe he will start taking acting classes! Lol.
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> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...> wrote:
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> > Lets say Orlando for Richard? Oh please let's not! It needs an actor.:-)
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Re: movie

2013-04-16 02:36:13
wednesday\_mc
::innocent look:: What? I merely wished to point out, with Guy as an illustration, that in my opinion the dark, smoldering intensity of an unpredictable alpha male is always preferable to the warm and gentle, brooding beta.

~Wednesday


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> Nicole, LOLOL!
> Wednesday has introduced me to Guy and I agree about the heat:D!!
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Re: movie

2013-04-16 02:51:56
wednesday\_mc
The King of Scotland, or what about that crazy relation to the king who wanted the throne and got Edward/Richard to help him, only to backpedal later? Or am I remembering fiction, not history?

There must be room for Ewan. He's soooo cute when he gets upset. Or nekkid.

~Weds

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> Hmm...any room for Ewan in the casting game?
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Re: movie

2013-04-16 06:57:42
NICOLE MASIKA
:-D that's the second time I've heard the adjective "smoldering" applied to Armitage this week! the other instance was someone taking about his performance in The Hobbit.
I think gentle and brooding can be very sexy, though my best example of that has some unpredictability & intensity too, like when he decides to smash his guitar!
er, back to casting, I'm late to the party, is there a consensus on someone for Richard Duke of York? could McGregor be right for that part?
Nicole

~~~ Music is lots of sound waves coming toward us in a completely chaotic manner and somehow our brain receives that as something beautiful - Matthew Bellamy

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::innocent look:: What? I merely wished to point out, with Guy as an illustration, that in my opinion the dark, smoldering intensity of an unpredictable alpha male is always preferable to the warm and gentle, brooding beta.



~Wednesday



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Re: movie

2013-04-16 12:28:43
Paul Trevor Bale
Anyone know who has a massive crush?:-)
Paul

On 16/04/2013 02:36, wednesday_mc wrote:
> ::innocent look:: What? I merely wished to point out, with Guy as an illustration, that in my opinion the dark, smoldering intensity of an unpredictable alpha male is always preferable to the warm and gentle, brooding beta.
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Re: movie

2013-04-16 14:31:13
liz williams
all of us - except you?


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To:
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:28
Subject: Re: Re: movie

 
Anyone know who has a massive crush?:-)
Paul

On 16/04/2013 02:36, wednesday_mc wrote:
> ::innocent look:: What? I merely wished to point out, with Guy as an illustration, that in my opinion the dark, smoldering intensity of an unpredictable alpha male is always preferable to the warm and gentle, brooding beta.
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> ~Wednesday
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> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
>> Nicole, LOLOL!
>> Wednesday has introduced me to Guy and I agree about the heat:D!!
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>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: movie

2013-04-16 15:23:33
Hilary Jones
Have you not seen him as the mill-owner in North and South - it was, I think, his first major TV role? It's a beautiful production anyway, but move over Rochester/Darcy. Still think he's too old for the Richard role now though.



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From: wednesday_mc <wednesday.mac@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 2:36
Subject: Re: movie

 

::innocent look:: What? I merely wished to point out, with Guy as an illustration, that in my opinion the dark, smoldering intensity of an unpredictable alpha male is always preferable to the warm and gentle, brooding beta.

~Wednesday

--- In , Ishita Bandyo <bandyoi@...> wrote:
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> Nicole, LOLOL!
> Wednesday has introduced me to Guy and I agree about the heat:D!!
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> Sent from my iPad




Re: movie

2013-04-16 19:13:14
wednesday\_mc
But that's what magenta gels and camera filters are for, darling. I still remember Roy Dotrice telling me about a production he was in, where the director didn't call, "Action," so much as, "Mirrors down!"

Meow.

~Weds

--- In , Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
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> Have you not seen him as the mill-owner in North and South - it was, I think, his first major TV role? It's a beautiful production anyway, but move over Rochester/Darcy. Still think he's too old for the Richard role now though.

Re: movie

2013-04-16 20:50:36
justcarol67
"wednesday_mc" <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
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> The King of Scotland, or what about that crazy relation to the king who wanted the throne and got Edward/Richard to help him, only to backpedal later? Or am I remembering fiction, not history? [snip]

Carol responds:

You're probably thinking of the Duke of Albany. Kendall calls him "a Clarence in kilts."

Carol

Re: movie

2013-04-17 14:37:30
Claire M Jordan
From: wednesday_mc
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: movie


> ::innocent look:: What? I merely wished to point out, with Guy as an
> illustration, that in my opinion the dark, smoldering intensity of an
> unpredictable alpha male is always preferable to the warm and gentle,
> brooding beta.

But unpredictable alpha males are usually very immature and either at least
mildly sociopathic or over-compensating for some inner inadequacy, and are
probably going to die young of stress-related illness anyway. Give me the
quiet confidence of the warm and gentle beta any day.

I'm surprised nobody has yet suggested Matt Smith to play Richard: his
full-face appearance in particular is very like the reocnstruction, although
his jaw is a little squarer. And he's an award-winning actor, 30, thin as a
lath but very active and agile, and has fair skin and a mop of floppy brown
hair.

Of course, he's enormously too tall, but so are some of the other
candidates. Richard was probably about 5'4" but the average height was 2"
lower then, so the actor who plays him needs to be, or be made to look,
5'6". But all the actors I can think of who are that small are either too
old or the wrong physical type or both.

John de la Pole again

2013-04-25 17:12:14
SandraMachin
A few weeks back I posted a query about John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln's second marriage. There seemed no trace of it, and I had no source to confirm it. The suggestion was that the second (Golafre) marriage actually involved a different member of the de la Pole family. I still do not have a source, but have now found the reference below. Can anyone help with this Clay thing?
John de la POLE (?1464-k.b.1487)

Earl of Lincoln.

Eldest son of John de la Pole, 2nd Duke of Suffolk(q.v.). (Coronation p.385)

1 = Margaret Fitzalan, daughter of Thomas Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel(q.v.). (Y.R.p.192n)

2 = the daughter of Sir John Golafre of Kent. (Clay p.53)



www.girders.net/Po/Pole



Sandra


Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-25 21:48:13
justcarol67
Sandra wrote:
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> A few weeks back I posted a query about John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln's second marriage. There seemed no trace of it, and I had no source to confirm it. The suggestion was that the second (Golafre) marriage actually involved a different member of the de la Pole family. I still do not have a source, but have now found the reference below. Can anyone help with this Clay thing?
> John de la POLE (?1464-k.b.1487)
>
> Earl of Lincoln.
>
> Eldest son of John de la Pole, 2nd Duke of Suffolk(q.v.). (Coronation p.385)
>
> 1 = Margaret Fitzalan, daughter of Thomas Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel(q.v.). (Y.R.p.192n)
>
> 2 = the daughter of Sir John Golafre of Kent. (Clay p.53)

> www.girders.net/Po/Pole

Carol responds:

You need to type http// if you want the URL to link. I found the references for girder.net here:

http://www.girders.net/index.php?dir=5+References%2F

Click on List of References.doc.

The Clay reference is "The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England" by J.W.Clay (no publication data given, but it should be easy enough to find).

I'm still certain that there was no second marriage, but it will be interesting to see where the old DNB author (whose name I forget) got his information--unless Clay got it from the DNB, in which case, we're back to square one.

Carol

Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-25 22:08:55
SandraMachin
Thank you, Carol!

Sandra


From: justcarol67
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:48 PM
To:
Subject: Re: John de la Pole again
Carol responds:

You need to type http// if you want the URL to link. I found the references for girder.net here:

http://www.girders.net/index.php?dir=5+References%2F

Click on List of References.doc.

The Clay reference is "The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England" by J.W.Clay (no publication data given, but it should be easy enough to find).

I'm still certain that there was no second marriage, but it will be interesting to see where the old DNB author (whose name I forget) got his information--unless Clay got it from the DNB, in which case, we're back to square one.





Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-26 17:30:43
david rayner
John Golafre had no children, so the marriage is a myth.

http://www.berkshirehistory.com/bios/jgolafre2.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Golafre


http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/golafre-john-1442


http://medieval-church-art.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/taste-for-macabre-late-medieval-cadaver.html


However he was clearly intimately connected to the de la Poles (his near neighbours at Ewelme) marrying the daughter of one and the widow of another.


Girders  can be a useful source, but don't take it as gospel.

I've a vague idea the Clay book is in a local library, I'll check next week.


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From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 21:48
Subject: Re: John de la Pole again



 
Sandra wrote:
>
> A few weeks back I posted a query about John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln's second marriage. There seemed no trace of it, and I had no source to confirm it. The suggestion was that the second (Golafre) marriage actually involved a different member of the de la Pole family. I still do not have a source, but have now found the reference below. Can anyone help with this Clay thing?
> John de la POLE (?1464-k.b.1487)
>
> Earl of Lincoln.
>
> Eldest son of John de la Pole, 2nd Duke of Suffolk(q.v.). (Coronation p.385)
>
> 1 = Margaret Fitzalan, daughter of Thomas Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel(q.v.). (Y.R.p.192n)
>
> 2 = the daughter of Sir John Golafre of Kent. (Clay p.53)

> www.girders.net/Po/Pole

Carol responds:

You need to type http// if you want the URL to link. I found the references for girder.net here:

http://www.girders.net/index.php?dir=5+References%2F

Click on List of References.doc.

The Clay reference is "The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England" by J.W.Clay (no publication data given, but it should be easy enough to find).

I'm still certain that there was no second marriage, but it will be interesting to see where the old DNB author (whose name I forget) got his information--unless Clay got it from the DNB, in which case, we're back to square one.

Carol




Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-26 22:28:41
Hilary Jones
Thank you so much for saying that about Girders David. I find some entries on Familysearch can be equally good when they quote sources, and others can be utter tosh. It's a question of when all the evidence stacks up.



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From: david rayner <theblackprussian@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013, 10:12
Subject: Re: Re: John de la Pole again

 

John Golafre had no children, so the marriage is a myth.

http://www.berkshirehistory.com/bios/jgolafre2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Golafre

http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/golafre-john-1442

http://medieval-church-art.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/taste-for-macabre-late-medieval-cadaver.html

However he was clearly intimately connected to the de la Poles (his near neighbours at Ewelme) marrying the daughter of one and the widow of another.

Girders  can be a useful source, but don't take it as gospel.

I've a vague idea the Clay book is in a local library, I'll check next week.

________________________________
From: justcarol67 <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 21:48
Subject: Re: John de la Pole again


 
Sandra wrote:
>
> A few weeks back I posted a query about John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln's second marriage. There seemed no trace of it, and I had no source to confirm it. The suggestion was that the second (Golafre) marriage actually involved a different member of the de la Pole family. I still do not have a source, but have now found the reference below. Can anyone help with this Clay thing?
> John de la POLE (?1464-k.b.1487)
>
> Earl of Lincoln.
>
> Eldest son of John de la Pole, 2nd Duke of Suffolk(q.v.). (Coronation p.385)
>
> 1 = Margaret Fitzalan, daughter of Thomas Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel(q.v.). (Y.R.p.192n)
>
> 2 = the daughter of Sir John Golafre of Kent. (Clay p.53)

> www.girders.net/Po/Pole

Carol responds:

You need to type http// if you want the URL to link. I found the references for girder.net here:

http://www.girders.net/index.php?dir=5+References%2F

Click on List of References.doc.

The Clay reference is "The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England" by J.W.Clay (no publication data given, but it should be easy enough to find).

I'm still certain that there was no second marriage, but it will be interesting to see where the old DNB author (whose name I forget) got his information--unless Clay got it from the DNB, in which case, we're back to square one.

Carol






Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-26 22:29:07
SandraMachin
Thank you, David. John de la Pole is pesky difficult to look into. He is just dates, well, for the most part. His whereabouts are fairly easy to follow (luckily for me) but getting at him' is like finding one's way through fog. His character doesn't come through, and heavy only knows what he looked like. Short and squat? Tall and gangling? Bald? Hairy? A man of mystery.

Sandra

From: david rayner
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:12 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: John de la Pole again


John Golafre had no children, so the marriage is a myth.

http://www.berkshirehistory.com/bios/jgolafre2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Golafre

http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/golafre-john-1442

http://medieval-church-art.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/taste-for-macabre-late-medieval-cadaver.html

However he was clearly intimately connected to the de la Poles (his near neighbours at Ewelme) marrying the daughter of one and the widow of another.

Girders can be a useful source, but don't take it as gospel.

I've a vague idea the Clay book is in a local library, I'll check next week.

________________________________
From: justcarol67 <mailto:justcarol67%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 21:48
Subject: Re: John de la Pole again



Sandra wrote:
>
> A few weeks back I posted a query about John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln's second marriage. There seemed no trace of it, and I had no source to confirm it. The suggestion was that the second (Golafre) marriage actually involved a different member of the de la Pole family. I still do not have a source, but have now found the reference below. Can anyone help with this Clay thing?
> John de la POLE (?1464-k.b.1487)
>
> Earl of Lincoln.
>
> Eldest son of John de la Pole, 2nd Duke of Suffolk(q.v.). (Coronation p.385)
>
> 1 = Margaret Fitzalan, daughter of Thomas Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel(q.v.). (Y.R.p.192n)
>
> 2 = the daughter of Sir John Golafre of Kent. (Clay p.53)

> www.girders.net/Po/Pole

Carol responds:

You need to type http// if you want the URL to link. I found the references for girder.net here:

http://www.girders.net/index.php?dir=5+References%2F

Click on List of References.doc.

The Clay reference is "The Extinct and Dormant Peerages of the Northern Counties of England" by J.W.Clay (no publication data given, but it should be easy enough to find).

I'm still certain that there was no second marriage, but it will be interesting to see where the old DNB author (whose name I forget) got his information--unless Clay got it from the DNB, in which case, we're back to square one.

Carol







Re: movie

2013-04-26 23:51:36
Ms Jones
Matt Smith could pass as Edward IV though.

--- In , "Claire M Jordan" <whitehound@...> wrote:
>
> From: wednesday_mc
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:36 AM
> Subject: Re: movie
>
>
> > ::innocent look:: What? I merely wished to point out, with Guy as an
> > illustration, that in my opinion the dark, smoldering intensity of an
> > unpredictable alpha male is always preferable to the warm and gentle,
> > brooding beta.
>
> But unpredictable alpha males are usually very immature and either at least
> mildly sociopathic or over-compensating for some inner inadequacy, and are
> probably going to die young of stress-related illness anyway. Give me the
> quiet confidence of the warm and gentle beta any day.
>
> I'm surprised nobody has yet suggested Matt Smith to play Richard: his
> full-face appearance in particular is very like the reocnstruction, although
> his jaw is a little squarer. And he's an award-winning actor, 30, thin as a
> lath but very active and agile, and has fair skin and a mop of floppy brown
> hair.
>
> Of course, he's enormously too tall, but so are some of the other
> candidates. Richard was probably about 5'4" but the average height was 2"
> lower then, so the actor who plays him needs to be, or be made to look,
> 5'6". But all the actors I can think of who are that small are either too
> old or the wrong physical type or both.
>

Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-28 02:02:23
justcarol67
"SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you, David. John de la Pole is pesky difficult to look into. He is just dates, well, for the most part. His whereabouts are fairly easy to follow (luckily for me) but getting at ‘him’ is like finding one’s way through fog. His character doesn’t come through, and heavy only knows what he looked like. Short and squat? Tall and gangling? Bald? Hairy? A man of mystery.

Carol responds:

Probably not bald since he was apparently between twenty-three and twenty-five when he died. And with a Plantagenet mother (Richard's sister, Elizabeth), there's a good chance that he was reasonably good looking or even possibly handsome. Probably not fat, either, since his lifestyle seems to have more clearly resembled Richard's (active) than Edward's (self-indulgent). The funeral effigies of his parents aren't much help, and there's none for him since he died a "traitor." I don't suppose his being descended from Chaucer helps much, either, but I hope he knew it and was rather proud of that particular ancestor (as well as the royal ones). I think the fact that Richard trusted him with large responsibilities from a fairly young age says a lot about him. Could he have seen himself in that particular nephew?

Not sure why Yahoo is mangling your apostrophes. You could try turning off any fancy formatting like curly quotes and just type in plain text or just posting from the site rather than your e-mail. Just a suggestion.

Carol

Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-28 03:41:18
Pamela Bain
I can understand the trust, at a young age. Richard was trusted by Edward at what 11, to be an admiral, and in his teens to administer armies. It was a time when youth was fleeting, and young men were men......

On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:02 PM, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...<mailto:justcarol67@...>> wrote:



"SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you, David. John de la Pole is pesky difficult to look into. He is just dates, well, for the most part. His whereabouts are fairly easy to follow (luckily for me) but getting at ýýýhimýýý is like finding oneýýýs way through fog. His character doesnýýýt come through, and heavy only knows what he looked like. Short and squat? Tall and gangling? Bald? Hairy? A man of mystery.

Carol responds:

Probably not bald since he was apparently between twenty-three and twenty-five when he died. And with a Plantagenet mother (Richard's sister, Elizabeth), there's a good chance that he was reasonably good looking or even possibly handsome. Probably not fat, either, since his lifestyle seems to have more clearly resembled Richard's (active) than Edward's (self-indulgent). The funeral effigies of his parents aren't much help, and there's none for him since he died a "traitor." I don't suppose his being descended from Chaucer helps much, either, but I hope he knew it and was rather proud of that particular ancestor (as well as the royal ones). I think the fact that Richard trusted him with large responsibilities from a fairly young age says a lot about him. Could he have seen himself in that particular nephew?

Not sure why Yahoo is mangling your apostrophes. You could try turning off any fancy formatting like curly quotes and just type in plain text or just posting from the site rather than your e-mail. Just a suggestion.

Carol





Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-28 06:46:54
SandraMachin
Thank you for the take on John de la Pole, Carol. I agree with your assessment. I had not thought that Richard might see this particular nephew as himself all over again. Interesting. Also interesting  fascinating to me  is the suggestion raised by Wendy Moorhen--- Ricardian, 2003, Volume XIII, pp 345-346---that the youngest brother de la Pole brother, Richard de la Pole, the White Rose, was in fact the son of John of Lincoln. Another changed child, as with George of Clarence?

Sorry about the apostrophes.I have no idea what happens, so I will endeavour not to use them. It does not occur with everything I post, just occasionally. Perhaps it is something to do with the post to which I am responding. A clash of originating software.

Sandra


From: justcarol67
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:02 AM
To:
Subject: Re: John de la Pole again

"SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you, David. John de la Pole is pesky difficult to look into. He is just dates, well, for the most part. His whereabouts are fairly easy to follow (luckily for me) but getting at ‘him’ is like finding one’s way through fog. His character doesn’t come through, and heavy only knows what he looked like. Short and squat? Tall and gangling? Bald? Hairy? A man of mystery.

Carol responds:

Probably not bald since he was apparently between twenty-three and twenty-five when he died. And with a Plantagenet mother (Richard's sister, Elizabeth), there's a good chance that he was reasonably good looking or even possibly handsome. Probably not fat, either, since his lifestyle seems to have more clearly resembled Richard's (active) than Edward's (self-indulgent). The funeral effigies of his parents aren't much help, and there's none for him since he died a "traitor." I don't suppose his being descended from Chaucer helps much, either, but I hope he knew it and was rather proud of that particular ancestor (as well as the royal ones). I think the fact that Richard trusted him with large responsibilities from a fairly young age says a lot about him. Could he have seen himself in that particular nephew?

Not sure why Yahoo is mangling your apostrophes. You could try turning off any fancy formatting like curly quotes and just type in plain text or just posting from the site rather than your e-mail. Just a suggestion.

Carol





Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-28 07:51:44
Claire M Jordan
From: SandraMachin
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Re: John de la Pole again

> Sorry about the apostrophes.I have no idea what happens, so I will
> endeavour not to use them. It does not occur with everything I post, just
> occasionally. Perhaps it is something to do with the post to which I am
> responding. A clash of originating software.

If you don't already, try making sure your mails are always formatted as
Plain Text rather than Rich Text, and see if that helps.

Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-28 09:10:40
SandraMachin
OK, plain text it is.F'i'n'g'e'r's' c'r'o's's'e'd. Have to do a test. Sorry.
From: Claire M Jordan
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:53 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: John de la Pole again


From: SandraMachin
To: mailto:%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Re: John de la Pole again

> Sorry about the apostrophes.I have no idea what happens, so I will
> endeavour not to use them. It does not occur with everything I post, just
> occasionally. Perhaps it is something to do with the post to which I am
> responding. A clash of originating software.

If you don't already, try making sure your mails are always formatted as
Plain Text rather than Rich Text, and see if that helps.




Re: John de la Pole again

2013-04-28 09:12:54
SandraMachin
Bingo. Thank you, Claire.

From: SandraMachin
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Subject: Re: Re: John de la Pole again


OK, plain text it is.F'i'n'g'e'r's' c'r'o's's'e'd. Have to do a test. Sorry.


From: Claire M Jordan
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Re: movie

2013-04-28 21:31:45
SandraMachin
Well, this thread has died, but I have just been watching Da Vinci's Demons on Fox, and in my opinion Blake Ritson, who plays wicked Count Girolamo Riario, is a perfect Richard. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0728682/?ref_=tt_cl_t4 He looks the part, he's the right age (almost) and he's the right build/height. Well, ish for the height. Oh, and he can act. That's it, the role is settled.

Sandra


Re: movie

2013-04-28 23:24:50
Johanne Tournier
Blake Ritson is *darling*, Sandra! And, funnily enough, he looks like he could be the son of Richard Armitage (whom many people think is too old to play Richard). I suppose it could be Blake Ritson as Richard and Richard Armitage as Richard Duke of York. J



Wonder what's happening about the movie. Heard anything lately?



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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of SandraMachin
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:32 PM
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Well, this thread has died, but I have just been watching Da Vinci's Demons on Fox, and in my opinion Blake Ritson, who plays wicked Count Girolamo Riario, is a perfect Richard. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0728682/?ref_=tt_cl_t4 He looks the part, he's the right age (almost) and he's the right build/height. Well, ish for the height. Oh, and he can act. That's it, the role is settled.

Sandra







Re: movie

2013-04-29 02:34:54
Pamela Bain
Yes, much better than Eddie!

On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...<mailto:sandramachin@...>> wrote:



Well, this thread has died, but I have just been watching Da Vinciýs Demons on Fox, and in my opinion Blake Ritson, who plays wicked Count Girolamo Riario, is a perfect Richard. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0728682/?ref_=tt_cl_t4 He looks the part, heýs the right age (almost) and heýs the right build/height. Well, ish for the height. Oh, and he can act. Thatýs it, the role is settled.

Sandra







Re: movie

2013-04-29 09:09:57
SandraMachin
Regarding Blake Ritson, I see he played Edward III in World Without End,
which I have recorded but have yet to watch. Anyway, he makes a great
medieval king. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg66J2qDt9E

Sandra

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Bain
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:34 AM
To: <>
Subject: Re: Re: movie

Yes, much better than Eddie!

On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:31 PM, "SandraMachin"
<sandramachin@...<mailto:sandramachin@...>> wrote:
Well, this thread has died, but I have just been watching Da Vinci's Demons
on Fox, and in my opinion Blake Ritson, who plays wicked Count Girolamo
Riario, is a perfect Richard.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0728682/?ref_=tt_cl_t4 He looks the part, he's
the right age (almost) and he's the right build/height. Well, ish for the
height. Oh, and he can act. That's it, the role is settled.

Sandra
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