Richard on Radio 3
Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-15 18:56:28
Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
"Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
"Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
Re: Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-15 20:53:59
That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
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> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
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> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
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> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
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> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Re: Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-16 00:38:39
I went on Sunday to see Shakespeare's play and they were very good in acknowledging the difference between the character in the play and the real man. Here is a link to my review: http://www.richardiii-nsw.org.au/?p=9546 As to some of my conclusions, I am not sure whether it was intended or whether it was just my Ricardian rose tinted glasses!
Cheers,
Dorothea
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From: hli4 <hli4@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Richard on Radio 3
That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
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> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
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> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Cheers,
Dorothea
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From: hli4 <hli4@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Richard on Radio 3
That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
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> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>
> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Re: Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-16 10:13:17
Interesting review:
"However, his speeches seemed not to reflect his true feelings, while his
finishing speech in spite of all its conciliatory words rather like
Richard's earlier speech to the Mayor and Citizens (Act 3.7) appeared
like spin and even had a certain menacing aura about it, as if there was
really very little difference between the two. Or was this just a bit
of wishful thinking on my part?"
Can't answer whether it was wishful thinking in the context of this production, but Richard Eyre's NT production certainly gave Richmond's closing speech a little inflected menace and the subsequent McKellen/Loncraine film, although losing that bit of text, had Richmond look to camera in the final moments in an echo of Richard's complicit relationship with the audience.
I think the Bogdanov/Jarvis ESC production was similarly equivocal about Richmond.
In fact, many modern productions - at least those that take a political rather than a theological approach - seem to adopt the idea that tyranny is a meme that's constantly duplicated and renewed in ever more sophisticated ways and reject the concept of Richmond as avenging angel, a la Stanley Baker in Olivier's film, as being too simplistic.
Jonathan
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From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 0:38
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
I went on Sunday to see Shakespeare's play and they were very good in acknowledging the difference between the character in the play and the real man. Here is a link to my review: http://www.richardiii-nsw.org.au/?p=9546 As to some of my conclusions, I am not sure whether it was intended or whether it was just my Ricardian rose tinted glasses!
Cheers,
Dorothea
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From: hli4 <hli4@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Richard on Radio 3
That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>
> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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"However, his speeches seemed not to reflect his true feelings, while his
finishing speech in spite of all its conciliatory words rather like
Richard's earlier speech to the Mayor and Citizens (Act 3.7) appeared
like spin and even had a certain menacing aura about it, as if there was
really very little difference between the two. Or was this just a bit
of wishful thinking on my part?"
Can't answer whether it was wishful thinking in the context of this production, but Richard Eyre's NT production certainly gave Richmond's closing speech a little inflected menace and the subsequent McKellen/Loncraine film, although losing that bit of text, had Richmond look to camera in the final moments in an echo of Richard's complicit relationship with the audience.
I think the Bogdanov/Jarvis ESC production was similarly equivocal about Richmond.
In fact, many modern productions - at least those that take a political rather than a theological approach - seem to adopt the idea that tyranny is a meme that's constantly duplicated and renewed in ever more sophisticated ways and reject the concept of Richmond as avenging angel, a la Stanley Baker in Olivier's film, as being too simplistic.
Jonathan
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From: Dorothea Preis <dorotheapreis@...>
To: "" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 0:38
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
I went on Sunday to see Shakespeare's play and they were very good in acknowledging the difference between the character in the play and the real man. Here is a link to my review: http://www.richardiii-nsw.org.au/?p=9546 As to some of my conclusions, I am not sure whether it was intended or whether it was just my Ricardian rose tinted glasses!
Cheers,
Dorothea
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From: hli4 <hli4@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Richard on Radio 3
That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>
> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>
> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Re: Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-16 12:27:21
Much as I like Dougie Henshall I found his Richard flat and
uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
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>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>>
>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Re: Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-16 15:36:20
If you watched the Lucy Worsley programme last night (I think it was you who mentioned it earlier) did you notice how they glossed over the fact that William II had a spinal problem (and asthma)? No suggestion of malevolent hunchback there.
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:27
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
Much as I like Dougie Henshall I found his Richard flat and
uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>>
>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Richard Liveth Yet!
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:27
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
Much as I like Dougie Henshall I found his Richard flat and
uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>>
>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-16 15:43:13
No, but that is a GLARING omission, don't you think?
On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "Hilary Jones" <hjnatdat@...<mailto:hjnatdat@...>> wrote:
If you watched the Lucy Worsley programme last night (I think it was you who mentioned it earlier) did you notice how they glossed over the fact that William II had a spinal problem (and asthma)? No suggestion of malevolent hunchback there.
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From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...<mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>>
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:27
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
Much as I like Dougie Henshall I found his Richard flat and
uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com<http://40yahoogroups.com>, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>>
>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
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>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Richard Liveth Yet!
On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "Hilary Jones" <hjnatdat@...<mailto:hjnatdat@...>> wrote:
If you watched the Lucy Worsley programme last night (I think it was you who mentioned it earlier) did you notice how they glossed over the fact that William II had a spinal problem (and asthma)? No suggestion of malevolent hunchback there.
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...<mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>>
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:27
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
Much as I like Dougie Henshall I found his Richard flat and
uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com<http://40yahoogroups.com>, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>>
>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
>>
>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
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Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: Richard on Radio 3
2013-04-16 16:23:11
Absolutely; they even said he had to wear a back brace, but nothing unnatural about that ...
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From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 15:43
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
No, but that is a GLARING omission, don't you think?
On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "Hilary Jones" <hjnatdat@...<mailto:hjnatdat@...>> wrote:
If you watched the Lucy Worsley programme last night (I think it was you who mentioned it earlier) did you notice how they glossed over the fact that William II had a spinal problem (and asthma)? No suggestion of malevolent hunchback there.
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...<mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>>
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:27
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
Much as I like Dougie Henshall I found his Richard flat and
uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com<http://40yahoogroups.com>, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>>
>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
>>
>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
>>
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From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 15:43
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
No, but that is a GLARING omission, don't you think?
On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "Hilary Jones" <hjnatdat@...<mailto:hjnatdat@...>> wrote:
If you watched the Lucy Worsley programme last night (I think it was you who mentioned it earlier) did you notice how they glossed over the fact that William II had a spinal problem (and asthma)? No suggestion of malevolent hunchback there.
________________________________
From: Paul Trevor Bale <paul.bale@...<mailto:paul.bale%40sky.com>>
To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 12:27
Subject: Re: Re: Richard on Radio 3
Much as I like Dougie Henshall I found his Richard flat and
uninteresting, though as you say it was good to see the listing
acknowledging the facts about the play.
Paul
On 15/04/2013 20:53, hli4 wrote:
> That is good to hear. Little by little the truth is being acknowledged.
>
> --- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com<http://40yahoogroups.com>, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
>> Was just flicking through the tv guide and noticed this from yesterday - Drama on 3; Richard III
>>
>> "Richard III's tarnished reputation is gradually being cleaned up after all that Tudor besmirching. However, Shakespeare's scheming hunchback king remains an enthralling creation. Douglas Henshall takes on the title role in a play that's full of historical inaccuracies - and universal truths."
>>
>> Nice to see someone acknowledging that although this is a great play, it is certainly not the truth.
>>
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